Is it optimized also for old computers without Vulkan compatible hardware?

[vitaly-zdanevich]

Hi, I have a laptop with old iGPU Intel HD 4000 without Vulkan support. I tried to play old game from 2004: Night Watch (through Bottles) and it very slow - only a few FPS. I am not expert in all this stuff, I read that Gallium Nine implemented Direct3D 9? But in wine ninewinecfg I see disabled checkbox:

Is it expected? Nothing you can do for better gaming (of old DirectX 9 games) on old hardware without Vulkan support?

Thanks for Conty!

[Kron4ek]

Hi,

Is it expected? Nothing you can do for better gaming (of old DirectX 9 games) on old hardware without Vulkan support?

Yes, this is expected, Intel HD 4000 is old and slow and there is not much you can do about its performance. Actually, as far as i know, Intel HD 4000 partially supports Vulkan 1.2, you should be able to use old DXVK versions with it (for example, 1.10.3). You can check Vulkan support via:

$ ./conty.sh vulkaninfo --summary

[Kron4ek]

Would love to have them in UI

They will appear in the UI after you put them into ~/.local/share/bottles/dxvk.

[vitaly-zdanevich]

Maybe add a script that will fetch a few versions?

I can put a zip from https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases?

[Kron4ek]

The archive need to be extracted for Bottles to see it.

[vitaly-zdanevich]

You need old DXVK version (1.10.3 or older)

I set through Lutris (it is possible to select the version in UI), but still cannot start Armies of Exigo (works on another modern computer), logs:

lutris-wrapper: Armies of Exigo
Started initial process 5936 from gamemoderun /home/vitaly/.local/share/lutris/runners/wine/wine-ge-8-26-x86_64/bin/wine /home/vitaly/Games/armies-of-exigo/Exigo.exe
Start monitoring process.
Waiting for game to start (first non-excluded process started)
GameMode ERROR: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'RegisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
gamemodeauto: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'RegisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
GameMode ERROR: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'RegisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
gamemodeauto: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'RegisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
GameMode ERROR: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'RegisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
gamemodeauto: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'RegisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
wineserver: using server-side synchronization.
wine: RLIMIT_NICE is <= 20, unable to use setpriority safely
wine: could not load kernel32.dll, status c000035a
Initial process has exited (return code: 23040)
GameMode ERROR: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'UnregisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
gamemodeauto: D-Bus error: Could not call method 'UnregisterGame' on 'com.feralinteractive.GameMode': The name com.feralinteractive.GameMode was not provided by any .service files
All processes have quit
Exit with return code 23040
2024-12-16 10:31:49,421: Game still running (state: running)
2024-12-16 10:31:49,422: Stopping Armies of Exigo (wine)
2024-12-16 10:31:49,422: The game has run for a very short time, did it crash?

Also tried the oldest available in UI of Lutris DXVK 1.7.1

Do you have some idea why?

[Kron4ek]

wine: could not load kernel32.dll, status c000035a

Your wineprefix is broken, can't say why though.

[Kron4ek]

Although, despite it's quite slow, it still should be enough to play old games. Make sure you are not using DXVK, from my experience OpenGL works better than Vulkan on such slow GPUs. Or at least try both and choose what performs best.

[vitaly-zdanevich]

I tried ./conty_lite_dwarfs.sh winetricks galliumnine

and now I cannot start Night Watch - in log I see:

err:d3d9nine:present_has_d3dadapter No available backends.
Native Direct3D 9 will be unavailable.
For more information visit https://github.com/iXit/wine-nine-standalone
err:d3d9nine:d3dadapter9_new Your display driver doesn't support native D3D9 adapters.

[vitaly-zdanevich]

Can start Night Watch again - after changing on and off a few settings in Bottle...