[RFE] Smartstate analysis on physical machines

[tjyang]

Hi

MIQ nowadays is not just managing VM on VMWare,OpenStack ...
It also manage physical machines via lxca and redfish providers.
Can smartstate analysis be extended to cover physical machines ?

the forum discussion is here
http://talk.manageiq.org/t/discoverying-and-smartstate-analysis-physical-systems/3762/6

[tjyang]

@roliveri , Would you please comment on this RFE ?

Also, taking snapshot on our openstack farm got denied by our openstack admins, since it put on too much load on the farm infra.

SSA should include another probe method like using ansible to collect the same info existing SSA wanted.

[roliveri]

@tjyang actually, currently there are different implementations of "SSA" based on the type of object being scanned. For example, the SSA code path for virtual assets: VMs, instances, templates, etc; is different from that for hosts and storage.

So, the implementation for physical machines can differ from that of other types of objects based on polymorphism. I do wonder why and if this implementation would differ from our current SSA implementation for hosts (which are physical machines in most, if not all cases).

As for supporting multiple SSA implementations for virtual assets, I'm concerned that may lead to supportability issues. For example, different implementations may have varying constraints for the same object (can it be performed when the VM is not running, etc), so the behavior may appear to be inconsistent to the user. Also, having multiple sources of data for the same database tables and fields may lead to inconsistencies, if the sources can report different values for the same data item.

[tjyang]

@tjyang actually, currently there are different implementations of "SSA" based on the type of object being scanned. For example, the SSA code path for virtual assets: VMs, instances, templates, etc; is different from that for hosts and storage.

So, the implementation for physical machines can differ from that of other types of objects based on polymorphism. I do wonder why and if this implementation would differ from our current SSA implementation for hosts (which are physical machines in most, if not all cases).

Thanks for the detail information here regarding existing SSA can scan a physical host.

My wish is to have miq managed physical hosts(via lxca or redfish) be SSA scanned from the GUI under Configuration menu.

As for supporting multiple SSA implementations for virtual assets, I'm concerned that may lead to supportability issues. For example, different implementations may have varying constraints for the same object (can it be performed when the VM is not running, etc), so the behavior may appear to be inconsistent to the user. Also, having multiple sources of data for the same database tables and fields may lead to inconsistencies, if the sources can report different values for the same data item.

I will open another issue thread do discuss SSA(Smart State Analysis) via non-snapshot approach.

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