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Today is July 30th, 1992. 2 - 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,470 - come with me through - these gates to + 00:00:09,255 --> 00:00:10,680 + My name is Mark Fry. 3 - 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:16,780 - a beautiful all new canvas, + 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,260 + I'm a volunteer lawyer + interviewer for 4 - 00:00:16,780 --> 00:00:18,760 - indeed a proper setting for + 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:15,780 + the Khmer archives + project organized by 5 - 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,080 - the Christian liberal arts + 00:00:15,780 --> 00:00:16,740 + the Minnesota lawyers 6 - 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,090 - and conservative - theological education. + 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,675 + international human + rights committee. 7 - 00:00:23,730 --> 00:00:27,145 - Looking at our campus - from the Southeast, + 00:00:18,675 --> 00:00:22,530 + I'm interviewing chum + runtime and the location 8 - 00:00:27,145 --> 00:00:30,460 - we see the college and seminary - located in the beautiful, + 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:24,645 + of this interview is + cable access studio 9 - 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:33,340 - rolling wooded hills - beside lake Valentine. + 00:00:24,645 --> 00:00:27,250 + in Saint Paul, Minnesota. 10 - 00:00:33,340 --> 00:00:37,750 - This is just five miles - north of our old campus. + 00:00:36,490 --> 00:00:41,225 + Hello, chum Ron. First of all, 11 - 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:42,015 - Here the emphasis is on - the seminary complex + 00:00:41,225 --> 00:00:44,780 + where were you born in Cambodia? 12 - 00:00:42,015 --> 00:00:46,320 - campus, as it appears - from the west. + 00:00:44,780 --> 00:00:49,805 + Home. I was born in + cm and a city is 13 - 00:00:46,450 --> 00:00:48,740 - This area will someday be + 00:00:49,805 --> 00:00:54,965 + not less of Cambodia Care. 14 - 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:52,200 - occupied by the - administration building. + 00:00:54,965 --> 00:00:58,535 + How long did you + live in that locale? 15 - 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,280 - Bethel probably boasts one of + 00:00:58,535 --> 00:01:02,150 + I lived a few years + and after that, 16 - 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,270 - the most beautiful campus - settings in the country. + 00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:04,370 + my pattern little bat to live 17 - 00:00:59,270 --> 00:01:02,000 - Each of the college - buildings is connected with + 00:01:04,370 --> 00:01:08,000 + in Cambodia in Metabolic City. 18 - 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,805 - the other building by a - weatherproof walkway, + 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,950 + Ok. How many brothers and + sisters did you have? 19 - 00:01:04,805 --> 00:01:06,875 - both above and below ground. + 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:21,270 + I have fall. 20 - 00:01:06,875 --> 00:01:08,840 - Hi, I'm sure you will - agree if you walk + 00:01:22,570 --> 00:01:26,225 + Fall brought an end to syste. 21 - 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,060 - between the buildings - on the Old Campus, + 00:01:26,225 --> 00:01:30,365 + But right now only to be ally. 22 - 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:14,210 - this indeed is a worthy edition. + 00:01:30,365 --> 00:01:32,885 + And one brought us + did in Cambodia 23 - 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:16,400 - We look at the campus now from + 00:01:32,885 --> 00:01:36,455 + and one sister in California. 24 - 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,105 - the east with the new - townhouses and view. + 00:01:36,455 --> 00:01:41,090 + Care. What does your + ethnic background? 25 - 00:01:20,105 --> 00:01:22,550 - This is the field of conflict for + 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:45,875 + And the Cambodian but + someone pop from Chinese. 26 - 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:25,190 - football, baseball, and soccer + 00:01:45,875 --> 00:01:49,879 + Okay. What did your father 27 - 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:28,595 - athletics out - important at Bethel. + 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:53,675 + and mother do while you + lived in Battambang? 28 - 00:01:28,595 --> 00:01:31,100 - Our new dorms consist of + 00:01:53,675 --> 00:01:58,790 + The Apple working + on down business. 29 - 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,725 - 14 units and two - clusters of seven. + 00:01:58,790 --> 00:02:03,110 + And my mom yes. 30 - 00:01:33,725 --> 00:01:37,580 - We can house 2221 unit 234, + 00:02:03,110 --> 00:02:06,005 + Dealing as mod of business, 31 - 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:41,210 - and the other a total of 456. + 00:02:06,005 --> 00:02:08,885 + sounding like it'll say + something like that. 32 - 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:43,760 - And they are all filled with + 00:02:08,885 --> 00:02:13,580 + Okay. Did you you've 33 - 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,940 - the housing on the Old - Campus filled as well. + 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:14,990 + spent most of your + time growing up 34 - 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:50,570 - Each apartment - contains six students. + 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:16,880 + in Battambang that yes. 35 - 00:01:50,570 --> 00:01:53,960 - There is a health center and - recreation room available in + 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:25,430 + Okay. Do you remember 36 - 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,500 - this complex and all the - other complexes as well. + 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:28,145 + when the Khmer Rouge + came to power? 37 - 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:00,320 - The total enrollment in - this year will run between + 00:02:28,145 --> 00:02:34,800 + And less than April 17th, 1975. 38 - 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:06,575 - 12851300 in the college in - about 240 in the seminary. - + 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,120 + And you were in + Battambang At the time? + 39 - 00:02:06,575 --> 00:02:09,110 - This was the first dormitory to + 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,475 + No lab lesson. Plumping city. 40 - 00:02:09,110 --> 00:02:11,060 - have been constructed - on the new campus. + 00:02:40,475 --> 00:02:42,140 + Okay. What were you + doing in Phnom Penh 41 - 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:14,000 - It holds 120 students. + 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:45,950 + sorting and that time I + list the police office, 42 - 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,430 - Here's located one of + 00:02:45,950 --> 00:02:51,110 + the ok. How long have you + been living in Phnom Penh? 43 - 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:19,595 - the most up-to-date libraries - in the state of Minnesota. + 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:54,200 + Sorry. This amo to + you. Two years. 44 - 00:02:19,595 --> 00:02:21,980 - It is on two levels. + 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,840 + Okay. 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Edward Thomas, + 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:41,545 + Bo just across Mekong River + to the is of plumping city. 72 - 00:04:04,910 --> 00:04:07,220 - popular Midwestern - musician and professor + 00:04:41,545 --> 00:04:44,305 + And then may decide + to stay there. 73 - 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:13,320 - at Bethel all grace. + 00:04:44,305 --> 00:04:48,370 + But generally, we can't + stay because they come 74 - 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:22,520 - Dr. Robert burglar and - directs the college choir, + 00:04:48,370 --> 00:04:49,810 + out or sold yet tried to 75 - 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,980 - which will tour the - East Coast this year + 00:04:49,810 --> 00:04:52,750 + pause to move + farther and farther. 76 - 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:39,410 - on special occasions, - the quires or + 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:58,570 + And the when to one + place they call not up 77 - 00:04:39,410 --> 00:04:42,110 - combine with other students - to make a great festival. + 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:05,690 + from about ten kilo meter + from non-being city. 78 - 00:04:42,110 --> 00:04:44,390 - Choir here creature with + 00:05:06,330 --> 00:05:10,450 + At that time, were soldiers + guarding over you or 79 - 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:48,450 - a Minnesota Orchestra during - the spring Music Festival. + 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:12,040 + were you allowed to move 80 - 00:04:58,599 --> 00:05:02,390 - >> The art department offers - exciting possibilities + 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,125 + freely on your own + with your friend? 81 - 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:07,590 - in painting, sculpture, ceramics. + 00:05:14,125 --> 00:05:17,470 + In my area, they + allow me to go so 82 - 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:10,280 - Instruction is given on + 00:05:17,470 --> 00:05:21,310 + only it cannot go + different direction. 83 - 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,840 - a personal basis in + 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:24,440 + Okay. What happened + after all of this? 84 - 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,465 - an atmosphere of informality - and understanding. + 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:30,530 + Then? I stay there about + a month and then know, 85 - 00:05:14,465 --> 00:05:18,120 - Numerous art exhibits are - held during the year. + 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:33,935 + tend to go back to the city. 86 - 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,895 - Bethel is noted for its - sound liberal arts program. + 00:05:33,935 --> 00:05:38,225 + And then my friend + and I decide to 87 - 00:05:22,895 --> 00:05:24,500 - It is fully accredited by + 00:05:38,225 --> 00:05:41,660 + leave and make decision to 88 - 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:26,540 - the North Central - Association of Colleges - + 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:45,020 + go to the hometown + and his hometown, + 89 - 00:05:26,540 --> 00:05:27,935 - and secondary schools. + 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:50,510 + this is cmd province and + my hometown is bottom bar. 90 - 00:05:27,935 --> 00:05:30,140 - And as the unqualified - recognition of + 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:53,540 + So I wanted to go + to see my pattern. 91 - 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,870 - the University of Minnesota is + 00:05:53,540 --> 00:05:56,385 + Okay. Were you able to 92 - 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:36,755 - one of the finest private - college labs in the area. + 00:05:56,385 --> 00:06:01,080 + to travel to Battambang or + were you stopped beforehand? 93 - 00:05:36,755 --> 00:05:39,290 - A good safety feature is + 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:08,510 + I can't stop by the + the tomato soldier to 94 - 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:42,290 - the chemistry safety shower + 00:06:08,510 --> 00:06:14,690 + stay in one small + village between CMB, 95 - 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:45,905 - with particular preparation - for eye protection. + 00:06:14,690 --> 00:06:18,110 + a province and + combinatorial problem. 96 - 00:05:45,905 --> 00:05:48,320 - The study a biological function + 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:21,660 + They call poem to. 97 - 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,825 - is a joy in this facility. + 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:26,400 + Yeah. 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This time trauma. - 98 - 00:05:50,825 --> 00:05:54,560 - Physics receives at - proper due in this area. + 2 + 00:00:17,950 --> 00:00:23,020 + And approximately how + old were you doing? - 99 - 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,825 - And other areas include - preparation for public education. + 3 + 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:25,014 + They come out of it? - 100 - 00:05:59,825 --> 00:06:03,725 - Here is one of our student - teachers in action. + 4 + 00:00:25,014 --> 00:00:28,645 + Yeah. That's 20 years old. - 101 - 00:06:03,725 --> 00:06:06,710 - Well, time fails. + 5 + 00:00:28,645 --> 00:00:32,650 + 20. Okay. Now, okay. - 102 - 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:09,020 - Meter mentioned is they - deserve to be mentioned. + 6 + 00:00:32,650 --> 00:00:37,434 + You were you able to make + it travel to bottom Bond? - 103 - 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:12,650 - Biblical studies, foreign - languages, history, + 7 + 00:00:37,434 --> 00:00:40,179 + Did you did you eventually + arrive in Battambang to see - 104 - 00:06:12,650 --> 00:06:16,100 - political science, - philosophy, psychology, + 8 + 00:00:40,179 --> 00:00:43,680 + your family or did they + stop you before then? - 105 - 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:19,590 - social studies, Speech and Drama. + 9 + 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:51,275 + No. They they try to stop me + and my friend along the way. - 106 - 00:06:22,930 --> 00:06:26,435 - There are many ways for - self-expression battle. + 10 + 00:00:51,275 --> 00:00:57,395 + But yes, to not lie to them + and make them want to stay - 107 - 00:06:26,435 --> 00:06:28,475 - If you are sports minded, + 11 + 00:00:57,395 --> 00:00:59,644 + at a different place like that - 108 - 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:31,310 - you can be an - enthusiastic spectator + 12 + 00:00:59,644 --> 00:01:04,220 + because I did not know + any body know relative. - 109 - 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:35,525 - or a participant on - intramural are varsity level. + 13 + 00:01:04,220 --> 00:01:07,715 + So just trying to get away. - 110 - 00:06:35,525 --> 00:06:37,340 - Eight different sports are + 14 + 00:01:07,715 --> 00:01:11,495 + But I cannot at that time. - 111 - 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:39,080 - conducted on the varsity level. + 15 + 00:01:11,495 --> 00:01:14,975 + That's why the last - 112 - 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,890 - And Bethel is a member the - tri-state athletic conference. + 16 + 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:19,804 + stop that I stay in + Kampala, Tom problem, - 113 - 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:47,675 - Perhaps your thing is - basketball or track. + 17 + 00:01:19,804 --> 00:01:24,590 + they call poem to + me that the relay - 114 - 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:49,790 - The grunt and grow an artist have + 18 + 00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:30,424 + is separate between same + ramp and couple of thumb. - 115 - 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:51,770 - their share of the limelight. + 19 + 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:33,920 + Okay. Now was a village - 116 - 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:56,370 - Our football wires do and - die for good. Old Bethel. + 20 + 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,350 + that was established by the + Khmer Rouge or was this - 117 - 00:06:56,770 --> 00:07:00,680 - Bethel has had championship - tennis squats. + 21 + 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:38,419 + an existence because of the + Khmer Rouge came to visit - 118 - 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,355 - Baseball brings honour - to AJ alma mater. + 22 + 00:01:38,419 --> 00:01:43,834 + the existing village that + along the highway numbers say. - 119 - 00:07:04,355 --> 00:07:06,740 - Now soccer has been + 23 + 00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:48,845 + Okay. How long did + you remain there? - 120 - 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:10,085 - successfully added to - the velocity program. + 24 + 00:01:48,845 --> 00:01:52,264 + I stayed there until + the Vietnamese - 121 - 00:07:10,085 --> 00:07:13,160 - Our lovely young - ladies are in hand for + 25 + 00:01:52,264 --> 00:01:58,505 + came in January ninth, 1979. - 122 - 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,930 - all major events to encourage + 26 + 00:01:58,505 --> 00:02:04,174 + Okay. Whether many Khmer + Rouge soldiers there, - 123 - 00:07:14,930 --> 00:07:17,790 - both participants and spectators. + 27 + 00:02:04,174 --> 00:02:06,395 + not so many there, - 124 - 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:24,950 - A most important part - of the Bethel story is + 28 + 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:08,225 + but that their latest, - 125 - 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:26,480 - the contribution of the seminary + 29 + 00:02:08,225 --> 00:02:11,540 + the, at the old place that - 126 - 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,295 - to the Baptist - general conference, + 30 + 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:19,559 + the commando capture + during 1970 occur. - 127 - 00:07:28,295 --> 00:07:31,835 - as well as to all major - evangelical groups. + 31 + 00:02:19,630 --> 00:02:22,100 + How many, how many of you were - 128 - 00:07:31,835 --> 00:07:33,710 - Since its inception, + 32 + 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:27,304 + there that were being guarded or, - 129 - 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:35,840 - theological studies - at Bethel seminary + 33 + 00:02:27,304 --> 00:02:29,795 + or held there by the Khmer Rouge. - 130 - 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,370 - had been set within the framework + 34 + 00:02:29,795 --> 00:02:36,305 + The people that while + alone at that time, - 131 - 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:40,230 - of historic evangelical theology. + 35 + 00:02:36,305 --> 00:02:40,504 + as I remember, has + about 200 people. - 132 - 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:43,010 - Particular emphasis has been + 36 + 00:02:40,504 --> 00:02:44,300 + And they let us stay there. - 133 - 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:45,020 - placed upon a - theology which gives + 37 + 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:49,220 + And then they put + lay one family one. - 134 - 00:07:45,020 --> 00:07:49,505 - primacy to the Bible as the - source of Christian doctrine. + 38 + 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:50,420 + How would they call - 135 - 00:07:49,505 --> 00:07:51,890 - Major attention has been given to + 39 + 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:54,514 + the old people to leave + with them so they can - 136 - 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:54,875 - the foundational truths - of evangelical theology, + 40 + 00:02:54,514 --> 00:03:00,560 + provide shout and some + food or material. - 137 - 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:57,515 - such as the reliability - of the scriptures, + 41 + 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,915 + A little bit hard + to live with them. - 138 - 00:07:57,515 --> 00:07:59,195 - THE gravity of man, + 42 + 00:03:02,915 --> 00:03:05,884 + Okay. Now, what do you + mean by the wrong people? - 139 - 00:07:59,195 --> 00:08:01,565 - the necessity of - divine redemption, + 43 + 00:03:05,884 --> 00:03:08,690 + That mean the people + that live that - 140 - 00:08:01,565 --> 00:08:03,590 - personal regeneration, + 44 + 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:12,200 + the Camaro before the Khmer - 141 - 00:08:03,590 --> 00:08:05,525 - the resurrection of believers, + 45 + 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,795 + captured the whole Cambodia Care. - 142 - 00:08:05,525 --> 00:08:07,460 - and the imminent - visible return of + 46 + 00:03:14,795 --> 00:03:18,199 + Okay. Were you in a household - 143 - 00:08:07,460 --> 00:08:09,230 - Jesus Christ, our Lord. + 47 + 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,940 + with another family or with - 144 - 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:11,930 - And say, Dr. Gordon Johnson + 48 + 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:22,040 + your friend or who did you ever? - 145 - 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:14,090 - announced this year - that Bethel graduated + 49 + 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,124 + I live with my friend and + his wife, two children. - 146 - 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:16,910 - 55 seniors and is currently + 50 + 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:32,390 + Okay. Now, while you + were living here, - 147 - 00:08:16,910 --> 00:08:17,990 - enrolling between - - 148 - 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:21,240 - two hundred and forty and two - hundred and fifty students. + 51 + 00:03:32,730 --> 00:03:34,930 + do they have you do - 149 - 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:25,775 - Bethel is far more - than its buildings. + 52 + 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:38,335 + work or what did you + do during the day? - 150 - 00:08:25,775 --> 00:08:29,705 - Bethel is more than superior - academic achievement. + 53 + 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:40,479 + Yes. They said nato. - 151 - 00:08:29,705 --> 00:08:33,350 - Bethel is even bigger than - the all important graduation + 54 + 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:43,405 + Let them right away + then the next day. - 152 - 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:39,950 - on Bethel is bigger than - any personal achievement. + 55 + 00:03:43,405 --> 00:03:45,760 + Okay. And what kind of + work do they have you? - 153 - 00:08:39,950 --> 00:08:41,930 - As important as it is, + 56 + 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:55,435 + Do? They send me to live with + the to date the bloody car, - 154 - 00:08:41,930 --> 00:08:45,799 - Bethel is a corporate - opportunity to grow with others + 57 + 00:03:55,435 --> 00:04:00,280 + like a small stream that + file from the place - 155 - 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:49,080 - >> in spiritual - outreach and develop. + 58 + 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,350 + that they live while + in the flawed I sub - 156 - 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:53,315 - Although chapel is not - required at Bethel, + 59 + 00:04:02,350 --> 00:04:05,979 + L phi to say kilo meter. - 157 - 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:56,030 - it is most significant - that most of + 60 + 00:04:05,979 --> 00:04:09,984 + And here were these + irrigation ditches? - 158 - 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:59,610 - the student body unites - each day for worship. + 61 + 00:04:09,984 --> 00:04:14,105 + Yeah. Okay. What other kinds + of work do they have you do? - 159 - 00:08:59,740 --> 00:09:02,690 - Time to time, the - entire student body, + 62 + 00:04:14,105 --> 00:04:16,489 + Just the first time? - 160 - 00:09:02,690 --> 00:09:03,920 - both seminary in college, + 63 + 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:18,589 + Will they introduce us as - 161 - 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,950 - meet outdoors in a great - natural ampitheater. + 64 + 00:04:18,589 --> 00:04:21,515 + a No people come to + live in the village - 162 - 00:09:08,050 --> 00:09:12,260 - Jerry Healy shares with - us student testimonies. + 65 + 00:04:21,515 --> 00:04:27,514 + and they tie lake + a very cheerful, - 163 - 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:14,790 - Now from our campus + 66 + 00:04:27,514 --> 00:04:30,350 + trying to make us happy + to leave with them. - 164 - 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,010 - is a Christian + 67 + 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:32,494 + And they asked us to help. - 165 - 00:09:28,010 --> 00:09:30,815 - arts colleague, James - Theological Seminary + 68 + 00:04:32,494 --> 00:04:35,899 + Little whatever they've + been assigned to - 166 - 00:09:30,815 --> 00:09:34,745 - dedicated to the development - of a strong people, + 69 + 00:04:35,899 --> 00:04:39,560 + do, Hokkaido will occur. - 167 - 00:09:34,745 --> 00:09:39,260 - fully matures, sensitive, - and inner directed. + 70 + 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,964 + So we're most of the tasks + agricultural planting? - 168 - 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:41,885 - A people continually growing + 71 + 00:04:42,964 --> 00:04:45,919 + Yes. Okay. Today, were you - 169 - 00:09:41,885 --> 00:09:45,185 - toward the model of Jesus Christ. + 72 + 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:49,504 + involved with road construction, + anything like that? - 170 - 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:49,070 - I've only been at Beth - and I think the thing + 73 + 00:04:49,504 --> 00:04:51,259 + Mostly agricultural tasks? - 171 - 00:09:49,070 --> 00:09:52,610 - that impresses me the most - was the Christian community. + 74 + 00:04:51,259 --> 00:04:55,009 + No. The first three months just - 172 - 00:09:52,610 --> 00:09:56,360 - Yes, I think it's so - important to integrate + 75 + 00:04:55,009 --> 00:05:00,530 + only taking irrigation + water plan for that place. - 173 - 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,290 - academic and special thanks + 76 + 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:04,519 + And then after three months, - 174 - 00:10:00,290 --> 00:10:05,255 - to the thing I most crazy about, + 77 + 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,160 + they send us mad + because that time is - 175 - 00:10:05,255 --> 00:10:07,520 - about FAFSA is that + 78 + 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,294 + the time to plan race. - 176 - 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,935 - it's been sorry about - the whole person. + 79 + 00:05:10,294 --> 00:05:13,669 + So they send us mat and + we cannot do anymore. - 177 - 00:10:09,935 --> 00:10:14,195 - Academic or intellectual - or spiritual Sosa. + 80 + 00:05:13,669 --> 00:05:16,970 + I'm going to have to heavy rain. - 178 - 00:10:14,195 --> 00:10:15,590 - But watching such that I can have + 81 + 00:05:16,970 --> 00:05:19,730 + So let's come back to + the village trying to - 179 - 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:17,165 - a relationship between faculty. + 82 + 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:23,399 + plan to help the other + people. Don't care. - 180 - 00:10:17,165 --> 00:10:20,495 - Ostinato festivals are really + 83 + 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,339 + How, what would be a + typical workday in terms - 181 - 00:10:20,495 --> 00:10:23,395 - sincere and they really - want to be loved. + 84 + 00:05:28,339 --> 00:05:31,220 + of in terms of the amount of + time that you would work, - 182 - 00:10:23,395 --> 00:10:27,785 - People town opening my mind + 85 + 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:33,020 + when would you start + in the morning - 183 - 00:10:27,785 --> 00:10:31,940 - to expand on almost any - broad thing that I want to. + 86 + 00:05:33,020 --> 00:05:35,060 + and end at the end of the day. - 184 - 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:34,365 - Education I'm getting - here is type. + 87 + 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:38,105 + First year that the + Khmer Rouge took over. - 185 - 00:10:34,365 --> 00:10:35,990 - And that I think has + 88 + 00:05:38,105 --> 00:05:40,789 + The work hours not really tie - 186 - 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:38,450 - prepared me for the - direction I'm going. + 89 + 00:05:40,789 --> 00:05:44,615 + like the old farmer used to work. - 187 - 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:41,585 - I think it's given us a - quality education advisor, + 90 + 00:05:44,615 --> 00:05:46,699 + In the morning. We get up, - 188 - 00:10:41,585 --> 00:10:43,280 - confidence learning, + 91 + 00:05:46,699 --> 00:05:49,250 + usually have a tiny plate first - 189 - 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,990 - part of that community - experience I + 92 + 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:51,499 + a little bit and start to go to - 190 - 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:46,670 - see as it's trying to find + 93 + 00:05:51,499 --> 00:05:56,915 + the feel about nine AM + and until the sunset. - 191 - 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:48,500 - a way to relate - what we're learning + 94 + 00:05:56,915 --> 00:06:00,139 + Combat home. Okay. That + was the first year. - 192 - 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,360 - in our classes to our - Christian experience. + 95 + 00:06:00,139 --> 00:06:02,735 + They did things + change after there. - 193 - 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:58,265 - >> But what about Bethel? + 96 + 00:06:02,735 --> 00:06:06,050 + And then Neitzsche + years they start - 194 - 00:10:58,265 --> 00:11:01,625 - In a day when colleges are - closing all over the nation, + 97 + 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:08,839 + to trying to push people to - 195 - 00:11:01,625 --> 00:11:04,820 - when enrollments are - falling off at seminaries. + 98 + 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:14,990 + the mall by trying - 196 - 00:11:04,820 --> 00:11:08,640 - What about Bethel, Dr. Lundquist? + 99 + 00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:16,399 + to wake up people early in - 197 - 00:11:09,730 --> 00:11:12,800 - I have just begun my 20th year as + 100 + 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,934 + the morning and go to the feel. - 198 - 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,320 - president of Bethel - College in seminary. + 101 + 00:06:18,934 --> 00:06:23,315 + Okay. What time do you + think that that was? - 199 - 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,780 - And I want to say that - from the perspective + 102 + 00:06:23,315 --> 00:06:25,549 + When when they would have you - 200 - 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:20,690 - of almost two decades - in this office, + 103 + 00:06:25,549 --> 00:06:28,504 + sent you out to the + fields to start working? - 201 - 00:11:20,690 --> 00:11:22,790 - that the work of - leading our college + 104 + 00:06:28,504 --> 00:06:32,509 + Nominee that they don't + have time and I don't know, - 202 - 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,770 - and our Seminary - has never been more + 105 + 00:06:32,509 --> 00:06:36,590 + but is it the sunrise on + everybody and need to get up. - 203 - 00:11:24,770 --> 00:11:27,335 - exciting or more satisfying + 106 + 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:39,470 + Ok. And was that was that - 204 - 00:11:27,335 --> 00:11:30,635 - or more challenging - than it is this year. + 107 + 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:41,374 + the way the workday - 205 - 00:11:30,635 --> 00:11:32,300 - I'm so glad that when + 108 + 00:06:41,374 --> 00:06:43,144 + went for the rest of the + time you were there? - 206 - 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,610 - the Lord called me - into his service, + 109 + 00:06:43,144 --> 00:06:45,245 + Sunrise to sunset? + Yeah, absolutely. - 207 - 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:38,690 - sign me to the task of - working with young people. + 110 + 00:06:45,245 --> 00:06:48,740 + Sometime when the out they need - 208 - 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:40,610 - And I have a sense of + 111 + 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:52,309 + to finish and then + they don't have - 209 - 00:11:40,610 --> 00:11:44,120 - great personal satisfaction - in seeking to relate + 112 + 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:54,559 + enough time to do the push + that to live at night - 210 - 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,270 - my own life and - commitment to Christ to + 113 + 00:06:54,559 --> 00:06:59,690 + to become home and a little bit, - 211 - 00:11:47,270 --> 00:11:49,010 - the hundreds of - young people who are + 114 + 00:06:59,690 --> 00:07:01,849 + and then we must go back again. - 212 - 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:51,260 - on the campus year after year, + 115 + 00:07:01,849 --> 00:07:07,130 + Okay. I've heard that, - 213 - 00:11:51,260 --> 00:11:55,130 - and pray that as they - find their place in life, + 116 + 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:09,619 + that they would have + educational seminars - 214 - 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:57,980 - God will use them to help shape + 117 + 00:07:09,619 --> 00:07:12,679 + to to learn the + philosophy of Pol Pot. - 215 - 00:11:57,980 --> 00:12:01,775 - the future of our world - with Christian values. + 118 + 00:07:12,679 --> 00:07:14,750 + Did they do that at, - 216 - 00:12:01,775 --> 00:12:04,550 - During the course of the - two decades that I've + 119 + 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:17,180 + at your village where you stayed? - 217 - 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:07,160 - had the privilege of being - on the Bethel campus, + 120 + 00:07:17,180 --> 00:07:21,350 + Jealously? They do + at the lunchtime. - 218 - 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,300 - I would guess that I have had - the opportunity of working + 121 + 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:23,090 + When people have a break. - 219 - 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:13,730 - directly or indirectly with - - 220 - 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:16,970 - more than 15 thousand - young people. + 122 + 00:07:23,090 --> 00:07:25,175 + After eating a little bit, - 221 - 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,325 - And wherever I go - around the world, + 123 + 00:07:25,175 --> 00:07:30,889 + the group leader choose + to give some advice - 222 - 00:12:19,325 --> 00:12:22,055 - I see them busy for Jesus Christ. + 124 + 00:07:30,889 --> 00:07:32,990 + and trying to ask about - 223 - 00:12:22,055 --> 00:12:24,950 - They are in almost every - field of endeavor. + 125 + 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:35,300 + the background for the new people - 224 - 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:26,884 - Some are college president's, + 126 + 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:37,504 + that come to live in the VLA. - 225 - 00:12:26,884 --> 00:12:29,360 - some are presence of - Christian schools like + 127 + 00:07:37,504 --> 00:07:43,325 + And sometime they do at NIH + after we finished split, - 226 - 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,895 - Bethel College and a seminary. + 128 + 00:07:43,325 --> 00:07:46,099 + they obey, asked to + have a meeting to learn - 227 - 00:12:31,895 --> 00:12:34,475 - Some are teachers in - public universities, + 129 + 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:49,625 + about the that new philosophy. - 228 - 00:12:34,475 --> 00:12:38,105 - some are doctors and - lawyers and businessmen. + 130 + 00:07:49,625 --> 00:07:51,559 + Was that usually every, - 229 - 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:40,730 - Many are social workers and are + 131 + 00:07:51,559 --> 00:07:54,484 + every day, that that + would take place. - 230 - 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:44,300 - extending their lives into - this field of human endeavor. + 132 + 00:07:54,484 --> 00:07:56,930 + The first years, not every day, - 231 - 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:46,970 - Many are missionaries - and pastors on + 133 + 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:59,945 + but kind like a + almost every week. - 232 - 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:50,765 - the front line proclaiming - the gospel of Jesus Christ. + 134 + 00:07:59,945 --> 00:08:01,950 + Okay. - 233 - 00:12:50,765 --> 00:12:52,670 - I always come back from seeing + 135 + 00:08:10,660 --> 00:08:13,054 + Did did they - 234 - 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:54,320 - these alumni at work around + 136 + 00:08:13,054 --> 00:08:16,159 + ask you about your + background at all? - 235 - 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,430 - the world praising God all - over again for the share that + 137 + 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:19,250 + They did. Okay. But I lie. - 236 - 00:12:58,430 --> 00:13:02,090 - Mrs. Lundquist and I - have in their lives. + 138 + 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:21,184 + And what would you tell them? - 237 - 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:04,850 - Just the other day, I - received a note from + 139 + 00:08:21,184 --> 00:08:26,165 + I told them I was a stone + and they believe it - 238 - 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:07,445 - a young girl who - graduated last spring. + 140 + 00:08:26,165 --> 00:08:28,340 + because I was young + that time and I'm - 239 - 00:13:07,445 --> 00:13:08,870 - He's now the director of + 141 + 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:31,160 + not married and I was + not meant at that time. - 240 - 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:11,480 - a Bible school program - on the west coast. + 142 + 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,469 + What would happen if you + told them your background? - 241 - 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,090 - She wrote saying that during - the preceding summer, + 143 + 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,454 + When I was there + the first few Day, - 242 - 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:15,140 - she had the chance of + 144 + 00:08:39,454 --> 00:08:42,050 + the people that I live with, - 243 - 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:16,910 - leading 71 children to + 145 + 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:46,069 + they told me how to sit, - 244 - 00:13:16,910 --> 00:13:19,265 - a saving knowledge - of Jesus Christ. + 146 + 00:08:46,069 --> 00:08:51,349 + Why don't tell + everything to truth. - 245 - 00:13:19,265 --> 00:13:23,780 - So she was writing out a great - enthusiasm along with it. + 147 + 00:08:51,349 --> 00:09:00,620 + And because they have that + family have some feeling, - 246 - 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:25,910 - This young girl just - a few months out of + 148 + 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:04,415 + one to help us to survive + during that time. - 247 - 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:29,870 - Bethel and closed a - money order for $40, + 149 + 00:09:04,415 --> 00:09:13,354 + So they told her to destroy + all kind of identification. - 248 - 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:34,130 - her first gift as an - alumna to her alma mater. + 150 + 00:09:13,354 --> 00:09:18,619 + Some work may be that + I brought with us, - 249 - 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:36,875 - With it, she said a little note, + 151 + 00:09:18,619 --> 00:09:22,370 + gave to the people that + because they don't - 250 - 00:13:36,875 --> 00:13:40,595 - you might be interested - in one paragraph of it. + 152 + 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:26,450 + have paper to roll the tobacco. - 251 - 00:13:40,595 --> 00:13:42,395 - This young girl wrote, + 153 + 00:09:26,450 --> 00:09:28,429 + So as good as you + gave it to them, - 252 - 00:13:42,395 --> 00:13:45,200 - I graduated from - Bethel this past May, + 154 + 00:09:28,429 --> 00:09:31,650 + you don't keep it. + That mean safe. - 253 - 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,970 - and I never told you how much. + 155 + 00:09:34,330 --> 00:09:37,730 + If you what about - 254 - 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:48,710 - I appreciate both of you. + 156 + 00:09:37,730 --> 00:09:41,565 + your background would make + them suspicious of you? - 255 - 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:51,050 - This is addressed to - both Mrs. Lundquist, + 157 + 00:09:41,565 --> 00:09:43,505 + Would it be because + you were a police? - 256 - 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:53,210 - myself, you were and + 158 + 00:09:43,505 --> 00:09:46,520 + Policemen and at + Phnom Penh city or or - 257 - 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:55,565 - have continued to be - an inspiration to me. + 159 + 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,590 + because of your family background - 258 - 00:13:55,565 --> 00:13:57,320 - I pray that God will richly + 160 + 00:09:48,590 --> 00:09:49,670 + in terms of your parents - 259 - 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,495 - bless you both for - all you've done. + 161 + 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:52,940 + were shopkeepers or what + would it be that they are - 260 - 00:13:59,495 --> 00:14:00,935 - Not just for battle, + 162 + 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:57,140 + the Khmer Rouge would + not like to commando, - 261 - 00:14:00,935 --> 00:14:03,965 - but for me and all the - individual students. + 163 + 00:09:57,140 --> 00:10:00,004 + don't like people in the office. - 262 - 00:14:03,965 --> 00:14:05,705 - We love you dearly. + 164 + 00:10:00,004 --> 00:10:03,379 + And also they don't lie to + people that have lice can lie. - 263 - 00:14:05,705 --> 00:14:07,520 - And I want you to - know that I will be + 165 + 00:10:03,379 --> 00:10:08,240 + My stop. They all they + accused SLS alike. - 264 - 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,040 - continually praying for you both. + 166 + 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,209 + Vietnamese, all the ethnic group. - 265 - 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,200 - Well, that's enough to keep + 167 + 00:10:14,209 --> 00:10:18,965 + We are not really pill + a 100% Cambodian. - 266 - 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,510 - a president going for - another whole year. + 168 + 00:10:18,965 --> 00:10:24,804 + Okay. Your experience there, - 267 - 00:14:14,510 --> 00:14:17,600 - And it's only a small sample of + 169 + 00:10:24,804 --> 00:10:26,584 + did you yourself, - 268 - 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,720 - the enthusiasm of one - alumnus that i c, + 170 + 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:29,120 + were you ever subjected + to physical abuse - 269 - 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,480 - multiplied and many - lives around the world, + 171 + 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,320 + or abused in any way while + you were in the village? - 270 - 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,605 - and that I share myself long ago, + 172 + 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,575 + Boat? They have physical abuse, - 271 - 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:30,560 - Mark Hopkins said that - the ideal picture of + 173 + 00:10:39,575 --> 00:10:45,125 + have a mentally or + mental abuse. He had. - 272 - 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,370 - a school was made up of one - student and one teacher, + 174 + 00:10:45,125 --> 00:10:48,110 + The Khmer Rouge tend to - 273 - 00:14:34,370 --> 00:14:36,665 - each on two ends of a log. + 175 + 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:51,080 + eliminate the people from - 274 - 00:14:36,665 --> 00:14:38,300 - And when they were there, + 176 + 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,869 + the city because they accuse us. - 275 - 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:41,120 - they had an educational - experience going. + 177 + 00:10:57,060 --> 00:11:02,080 + A strange person that + never were and a farm and - 276 - 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,400 - I think, however that - we would have to + 178 + 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,804 + the person that always take + advantage over the farmer. - 277 - 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,500 - say that somewhere - on that log there is + 179 + 00:11:06,804 --> 00:11:09,535 + Because of the Khmer Rouge. - 278 - 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,755 - a third person and - that's the partner + 180 + 00:11:09,535 --> 00:11:12,955 + Most of them the farmer. - 279 - 00:14:48,755 --> 00:14:52,535 - like you in the life - of Bethel people. + 181 + 00:11:12,955 --> 00:11:18,954 + And they have a background + that very low education. - 280 - 00:14:52,535 --> 00:14:54,620 - And we believe in the - mission of our school, + 182 + 00:11:18,954 --> 00:11:22,270 + And they don't like + the city people - 281 - 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:56,720 - who believe in - young people today, + 183 + 00:11:22,270 --> 00:11:26,634 + that used to take + Atlantic from them. - 282 - 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,080 - who believe in the need for - Christian higher education, + 184 + 00:11:26,634 --> 00:11:30,054 + And then it kind like + we went for them. - 283 - 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,060 - who believe in using education + 185 + 00:11:30,054 --> 00:11:33,504 + But I don't know about + the tomato philosophy. - 284 - 00:15:02,060 --> 00:15:04,370 - as an instrument of the gospel. + 186 + 00:11:33,504 --> 00:11:38,379 + But this is yes, + only the the feeling - 285 - 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:07,340 - And who, as a result - of these beliefs, + 187 + 00:11:38,379 --> 00:11:41,310 + that I feel that time. - 286 - 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:10,925 - are investing their - gifts in battle. + 188 + 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:44,240 + Did you were you yourself, - 287 - 00:15:10,925 --> 00:15:15,110 - I feel that you are partners - with us in helping to shape + 189 + 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,530 + personally subjected to any + abuse by the Khmer Rouge? - 288 - 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:17,930 - a whole new generation that can + 190 + 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:51,349 + Yeah. 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Titled his talk. - - 2 - 00:00:09,525 --> 00:00:12,720 - I come just a few days ago from - - 3 - 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,080 - the voltage Swedish Baptist - Church in the world. - - 4 - 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,940 - As you probably know, - - 5 - 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:21,765 - there will be celebrating - the 20th anniversary. - - 6 - 00:00:21,765 --> 00:00:24,959 - And as I say, the oldest - in the world, they know, - - 7 - 00:00:24,959 --> 00:00:26,730 - Swedish Baptist Church - in Sweden that says - - 8 - 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:30,090 - oldest church down in Iowa. - - 9 - 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:32,189 - The General Conference was - - 10 - 00:00:32,189 --> 00:00:34,740 - organized in that church. - Now that's interesting. - - 11 - 00:00:34,740 --> 00:00:38,324 - You know that somebody in 1879, - - 12 - 00:00:38,324 --> 00:00:39,719 - Agenda conference organizer to - - 13 - 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:42,595 - very small group of churches, - - 14 - 00:00:42,595 --> 00:00:44,330 - not so many from the East. - - 15 - 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:45,799 - There were some churches - there, of course, - - 16 - 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:47,030 - but it is more in - - 17 - 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:50,240 - the midway and some from - the East met there. - - 18 - 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,079 - And we have the history in - - 19 - 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:55,729 - the General Conference - and you'll that you - - 20 - 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:57,905 - get every year at the conference. - - 21 - 00:00:57,905 --> 00:01:02,450 - You have some records there - - 22 - 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:04,250 - until she was chairman - - 23 - 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:07,685 - that year and so on, - presiding officer. - - 24 - 00:01:07,685 --> 00:01:10,430 - And where they met - two pizzas servant. - - 25 - 00:01:10,430 --> 00:01:13,489 - Well, the very first - one would be that - - 26 - 00:01:13,489 --> 00:01:17,225 - one in Lansing pilot. - - 27 - 00:01:17,225 --> 00:01:20,089 - Now, regarding the Swedish - Baptist movement manner, - - 28 - 00:01:20,089 --> 00:01:24,214 - say just talk in front of the - Swedish Baptist movement. - - 29 - 00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:28,565 - >> America was like - the Lutheran movement. - - 30 - 00:01:28,565 --> 00:01:32,045 - Unlike other movements - from Europe. - - 31 - 00:01:32,045 --> 00:01:35,420 - They would come to America - because that's a new country. - - 32 - 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:36,949 - That so that's a silver - - 33 - 00:01:36,949 --> 00:01:38,840 - and gold and American, - all of that. - - 34 - 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,715 - My mother and father came. - - 35 - 00:01:40,715 --> 00:01:43,459 - Your some of your ancestors did, - - 36 - 00:01:43,459 --> 00:01:45,320 - Davis did and all that. - - 37 - 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,725 - And sometimes they come - in groups from Sweden. - - 38 - 00:01:48,725 --> 00:01:53,960 - And now my father and mother - came first to New York. - - 39 - 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,510 - Never met that there - were married and he - - 40 - 00:01:56,510 --> 00:01:59,180 - became a Christian also, - - 41 - 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:01,940 - but he wasn't at first - and they went out west - - 42 - 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:04,175 - and finally father homesteaders - - 43 - 00:02:04,175 --> 00:02:06,320 - to farm in northern Kansas. - - 44 - 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,305 - Here. They weren't - alone in that district. - - 45 - 00:02:09,305 --> 00:02:12,004 - There's a group that - I come from Sweden, - - 46 - 00:02:12,004 --> 00:02:14,570 - had been converted in Sweden. - - 47 - 00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:16,430 - There's a book that - I wish I could - - 48 - 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:17,450 - read if you get a hold of it, - - 49 - 00:02:17,450 --> 00:02:18,605 - the song of the roche. - - 50 - 00:02:18,605 --> 00:02:19,669 - Maybe it's in the library, - - 51 - 00:02:19,669 --> 00:02:22,475 - maybe not iPads to run my church. - - 52 - 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:24,140 - I send it to theater ambition of - - 53 - 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:25,820 - the covenant church, - a copy of it. - - 54 - 00:02:25,820 --> 00:02:29,180 - Sum those two takes care. - - 55 - 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:32,449 - It presents the artistic - movements are with God in - - 56 - 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:34,490 - Sweden and they'd - meet and you see - - 57 - 00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:36,910 - the state church - was cold and day. - - 58 - 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:39,109 - It was pretty much - dead in places, - - 59 - 00:02:39,109 --> 00:02:42,875 - you know, and it didn't, - it wasn't spirits. - - 60 - 00:02:42,875 --> 00:02:45,095 - Or even Sir Walter - Scott brings that out. - - 61 - 00:02:45,095 --> 00:02:48,905 - How the power let that cathedral - and went to the cottage. - - 62 - 00:02:48,905 --> 00:02:52,760 - Remember that line - Spencer edition said? - - 63 - 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,330 - And so they organized - - 64 - 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:57,155 - their little church - in northern Kansas. - - 65 - 00:02:57,155 --> 00:03:00,065 - Maybe 12 members, - maybe 40 members. - - 66 - 00:03:00,065 --> 00:03:03,950 - Number of couples that - knew each other in Sweden. + 192 + 00:11:55,475 --> 00:11:57,365 + They said me too. - 67 - 00:03:03,950 --> 00:03:06,589 - And there are at least I remember + 193 + 00:11:57,365 --> 00:12:03,605 + We're at to trying + to make a water dam. - 68 - 00:03:06,589 --> 00:03:09,920 - was when I was in - Sunday School there, + 194 + 00:12:03,605 --> 00:12:15,120 + And the they call Stan sign + as part of a not Cambodia. - 69 - 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,980 - my father taught off him - and and all the boys. + 195 + 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:20,389 + And that tiny from sunrise to - 70 - 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:15,050 - And I was five years old. + 196 + 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:23,209 + sunset and then come to - 71 - 00:03:15,050 --> 00:03:16,745 - Cemetery moved away. + 197 + 00:12:23,209 --> 00:12:27,779 + the borough that they + bill for a to slip. - 72 - 00:03:16,745 --> 00:03:18,770 - But he was my father - was talking and he was + 198 + 00:12:27,970 --> 00:12:34,429 + And when the work is + not done on time, - 73 - 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:23,090 - just a Ernest Christian and - not educated and all of that, + 199 + 00:12:34,429 --> 00:12:37,669 + they asked us to work + at NIH after dinner. - 74 - 00:03:23,090 --> 00:03:24,890 - but he knew the Bible. + 200 + 00:12:37,669 --> 00:12:39,650 + Most of the time, they did not - 75 - 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:26,180 - I remember he turned to me. + 201 + 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:42,034 + allow us to come to + the burrow to eat. - 76 - 00:03:26,180 --> 00:03:27,485 - Henry, what do you think about + 202 + 00:12:42,034 --> 00:12:44,675 + They have the cook - 77 - 00:03:27,485 --> 00:03:29,990 - that for Beth and thereby lab, + 203 + 00:12:44,675 --> 00:12:49,714 + that brought the Dina to + the place that we work. - 78 - 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:32,960 - because he's got the - humor to it to do that. + 204 + 00:12:49,714 --> 00:12:53,660 + And then they are + just distribute each - 79 - 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,315 - I think about that. + 205 + 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:58,489 + played for us to eat for a + while above half an hour, - 80 - 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:37,145 - You're in this class too. + 206 + 00:12:58,489 --> 00:13:02,405 + and then they start plus two - 81 - 00:03:37,145 --> 00:03:38,900 - And there was a pastor. + 207 + 00:13:02,405 --> 00:13:07,759 + again until ten or 11:00 PM + until midnight sometime. - 82 - 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:41,330 - His name was John JSON. - Whatever the Misha DJ. + 208 + 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,549 + And their philosophy, - 83 - 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:43,549 - And they got you got $300 a year, + 209 + 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:18,245 + the people that the leader + when they saw did not fitness. - 84 - 00:03:43,549 --> 00:03:46,430 - which is a lot of - money things dollar + 210 + 00:13:18,245 --> 00:13:19,789 + Even that posts that - 85 - 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:49,609 - than would be dollar - now would be 30, + 211 + 00:13:19,789 --> 00:13:22,534 + tiny our hardware + that did not finish. - 86 - 00:03:49,609 --> 00:03:51,410 - $40? Yes, it would be. + 212 + 00:13:22,534 --> 00:13:24,859 + And then they start a new idea. - 87 - 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:54,274 - I think you've you - that well, anyway, + 213 + 00:13:24,859 --> 00:13:28,759 + Say, Daddy, why a piece of land? - 88 - 00:03:54,274 --> 00:03:58,040 - there were groups and - there were churches here. + 214 + 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,580 + If you dig it fast, - 89 - 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,580 - They're organized and then - they would get together. + 215 + 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:32,795 + you can get finished. - 90 - 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:07,455 - And finally they organized a - general conference in 1879. + 216 + 00:13:32,795 --> 00:13:36,080 + Their part that they + gave it to her to do. - 91 - 00:04:07,455 --> 00:04:09,655 - And then the work went up. + 217 + 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,094 + You can go to the + broad sleep early. - 92 - 00:04:09,655 --> 00:04:11,755 - Now I press, there was no school. + 218 + 00:13:39,094 --> 00:13:41,120 + And some people are trying to do - 93 - 00:04:11,755 --> 00:04:15,895 - You know that the preachers - came from Sweden and + 219 + 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,890 + that to get faster + and then so they can - 94 - 00:04:15,895 --> 00:04:17,710 - they want to keep a Swedish - so long as they could + 220 + 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:45,530 + have time come back + to have a lat of - 95 - 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:20,860 - because they couldn't - reach English very well. + 221 + 00:13:45,530 --> 00:13:47,045 + find something to aid because - 96 - 00:04:20,860 --> 00:04:23,440 - And but then among them there was + 222 + 00:13:47,045 --> 00:13:49,220 + they don't have + enough food to eat. - 97 - 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,470 - one young man who was - glories that converted. + 223 + 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:51,199 + And later on people, - 98 - 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:28,795 - His name was that - lake. Sustained grin. + 224 + 00:13:51,199 --> 00:13:54,455 + but I'm trying too hard + to finish their part. - 99 - 00:04:28,795 --> 00:04:31,180 - And he saw you felt deep in + 225 + 00:13:54,455 --> 00:13:59,060 + And then they increase the + portion of work load so - 100 - 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:33,250 - his heart that he had - great possibilities. + 226 + 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,589 + until nobody can finish + before the one at the combat. - 101 - 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:37,210 - Otherwise, he saw - the need of having + 227 + 00:14:05,950 --> 00:14:09,529 + Do Do you recall - 102 - 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:38,919 - a training school for + 228 + 00:14:09,529 --> 00:14:14,419 + any incidents witnessing any + incidents where where people - 103 - 00:04:38,919 --> 00:04:42,130 - Pasteur's training - pastors for the work. + 229 + 00:14:14,419 --> 00:14:22,970 + were killed or just disappeared + or beaten at that time. - 104 - 00:04:42,130 --> 00:04:50,189 - But he came as a sailor boy - to America or something + 230 + 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:25,459 + And 197 needs seven, - 105 - 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:52,009 - in the Swedish young people, + 231 + 00:14:25,459 --> 00:14:29,720 + same one of my friend - 106 - 00:04:52,009 --> 00:04:54,469 - Swedish boys all over the world, + 232 + 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:36,019 + when two were from the same + village and he disappear. - 107 - 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:57,845 - I guess they see a - ship, have saga. + 233 + 00:14:36,019 --> 00:14:38,839 + I don't know what the reason why. - 108 - 00:04:57,845 --> 00:05:00,650 - That's sweet poem that - everybody knows. Who should we? + 234 + 00:14:38,839 --> 00:14:43,984 + Because they accuse + him that he's not very - 109 - 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:02,270 - I remember so well that I + 235 + 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:52,774 + active that trying to + against their philosophy. - 110 - 00:05:02,270 --> 00:05:03,605 - think it's in there where it is. + 236 + 00:14:52,774 --> 00:14:57,694 + But actually he's + really tired his sakes. - 111 - 00:05:03,605 --> 00:05:05,795 - But this young man was restless. + 237 + 00:14:57,694 --> 00:15:02,389 + He got diarrhea and he went - 112 - 00:05:05,795 --> 00:05:10,565 - Maybe his name, his residency, + 238 + 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:04,849 + into the the forest - 113 - 00:05:10,565 --> 00:05:12,049 - he didn't know what's - the matter with + 239 + 00:15:04,849 --> 00:15:08,464 + nearby because he got diary, + he cannot stay there. - 114 - 00:05:12,049 --> 00:05:14,330 - him and he didn't know - what the recipe would be. + 240 + 00:15:08,464 --> 00:15:12,559 + And they accuse him that + trying to get away from birth. - 115 - 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:15,829 - Left would help. And then he saw + 241 + 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:16,085 + And later on, after that night, - 116 - 00:05:15,829 --> 00:05:19,820 - a ship in the harbor. - That's the answer. + 242 + 00:15:16,085 --> 00:15:18,274 + next day, we didn't see him. - 117 - 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:22,340 - And he made a run - for the shipment, + 243 + 00:15:18,274 --> 00:15:20,479 + And they're told + that they send him - 118 - 00:05:22,340 --> 00:05:25,339 - got on there and actually - kept and it could + 244 + 00:15:20,479 --> 00:15:22,849 + back to the village pub. - 119 - 00:05:25,339 --> 00:05:27,050 - be on there and stay on and + 245 + 00:15:22,849 --> 00:15:24,259 + When we came back after we - 120 - 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:29,105 - have a job and you - save the seeds. + 246 + 00:15:24,259 --> 00:15:26,420 + finished work over + there about six months. - 121 - 00:05:29,105 --> 00:05:31,025 - Now that's your Lexus. + 247 + 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:28,325 + I didn't see him at our - 122 - 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:32,450 - It when we're talking - about elections. + 248 + 00:15:28,325 --> 00:15:31,309 + so I don't know + where they take it. - 123 - 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:34,325 - Abraham, marvelous person. + 249 + 00:15:31,309 --> 00:15:33,545 + Did this happen very often - 124 - 00:05:34,325 --> 00:05:37,519 - And he didn't go through - just that experience, + 250 + 00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:35,509 + where people would + disappear like that? - 125 - 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,295 - but you wanted to go sailing + 251 + 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:38,300 + Usely, it happened to the people - 126 - 00:05:40,295 --> 00:05:42,635 - and there was a ship there too. + 252 + 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:42,785 + that a blanket from the city. - 127 - 00:05:42,635 --> 00:05:44,195 - And he asked his parents, + 253 + 00:15:42,785 --> 00:15:46,745 + But for the people + they call all people, - 128 - 00:05:44,195 --> 00:05:45,800 - got permission from - them and they said, + 254 + 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:50,210 + they tend to try and - 129 - 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,629 - well, if that is what - you really want to do, + 255 + 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:55,474 + to that we educate them or + send them to let them place. - 130 - 00:05:47,629 --> 00:05:49,070 - we're not going to stop you. + 256 + 00:15:55,474 --> 00:15:57,469 + Okay. So you're feeling is - 131 - 00:05:49,070 --> 00:05:50,690 - Pray that the Nordau - bless you wherever + 257 + 00:15:57,469 --> 00:16:00,559 + that if one was + identified as has, - 132 - 00:05:50,690 --> 00:05:52,505 - you go and take care of you. + 258 + 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,360 + having lived in the city, - 133 - 00:05:52,505 --> 00:05:55,459 - And so alexis Adrian became + 259 + 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,339 + that the Khmer Rouge would try - 134 - 00:05:55,459 --> 00:06:01,379 - ish sailor boy and he's - sale almost seven C's + 260 + 00:16:04,339 --> 00:16:06,229 + to systematically break them - 135 - 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:07,250 - the age of 15, I - think this was now, + 261 + 00:16:06,229 --> 00:16:11,789 + down and ultimately + killed them. Yeah. Okay. - 136 - 00:06:07,250 --> 00:06:08,330 - I like to think of it like say, + 262 + 00:16:14,590 --> 00:16:21,240 + We're As far as - 137 - 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:10,790 - ugliness, going - through three fires. + 263 + 00:16:22,570 --> 00:16:27,065 + the deaths of of people + in that village, - 138 - 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:13,865 - One wish a fire when - you wish converted. + 264 + 00:16:27,065 --> 00:16:29,150 + was it usually the case - 139 - 00:06:13,865 --> 00:06:15,950 - Another which a fire of + 265 + 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:31,609 + where violence was + involved or was it a case - 140 - 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:18,635 - the Civil War in which - you had a great time. + 266 + 00:16:31,609 --> 00:16:36,035 + of just disappearances and + also perhaps starving people, - 141 - 00:06:18,635 --> 00:06:22,700 - And the third was that - fire when Chicago Bern, + 267 + 00:16:36,035 --> 00:16:38,119 + and they would just + break down and die - 142 - 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:26,390 - almost Chicago altogether burned. + 268 + 00:16:38,119 --> 00:16:40,579 + from illness or, + or a lack of food. - 143 - 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:30,560 - But the first fire was this one. + 269 + 00:16:40,579 --> 00:16:42,484 + Did that happen more frequently? - 144 - 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,150 - He wasn't a Christian. + 270 + 00:16:42,484 --> 00:16:44,179 + Almost everyday. - 145 - 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:34,010 - He hadn't accepted - crashes or saver. + 271 + 00:16:44,179 --> 00:16:50,014 + People that die by lacking a + full and also the illness, - 146 - 00:06:34,010 --> 00:06:36,454 - He was living in what - we would call sin, + 272 + 00:16:50,014 --> 00:16:52,370 + they common disease is - 147 - 00:06:36,454 --> 00:06:40,100 - and he was in New - York Harbor sleeping. + 273 + 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:56,330 + diarrhea and starvation because - 148 - 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:43,654 - In his book, on the - ship in New York Harbor + 274 + 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:58,294 + they don't have + enough food to eat. - 149 - 00:06:43,654 --> 00:06:48,005 - >> And he had a dream. + 275 + 00:16:58,294 --> 00:17:03,980 + And some people die by accusing. - 150 - 00:06:48,005 --> 00:06:49,759 - In the dream you - used on the way to + 276 + 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:06,349 + Are there background? - 151 - 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:51,289 - some place of amusement, + 277 + 00:17:06,349 --> 00:17:08,074 + If they found out live? - 152 - 00:06:51,289 --> 00:06:53,810 - which was clearly considered sin. + 278 + 00:17:08,074 --> 00:17:11,464 + My friend, he was the pilot. - 153 - 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:56,660 - And he saw a fire come, + 279 + 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:18,844 + And the reason that they + know him because he brought - 154 - 00:06:56,660 --> 00:07:00,665 - come crawling along - toward a from the right. + 280 + 00:17:18,844 --> 00:17:26,240 + a if made at that time when + he was in Phnom Penh city, - 155 - 00:07:00,665 --> 00:07:02,570 - And the lack of it, prayer fire, + 281 + 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,830 + he had irwin made as - 156 - 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:03,994 - but it's a mystic fire. + 282 + 00:17:27,830 --> 00:17:31,204 + that allele girl + about 1010 years old. - 157 - 00:07:03,994 --> 00:07:05,840 - >> And he saw it coming. + 283 + 00:17:31,204 --> 00:17:34,100 + And she's the real Cambodian - 158 - 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:07,250 - And he tried his - best to get out of + 284 + 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:37,130 + cared because see have + a different math skin. - 159 - 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:09,919 - the way and but he just + 285 + 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:41,329 + And he brought + Herbert and told her - 160 - 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:12,484 - couldn't even outage - a nightmarish hadron + 286 + 00:17:41,329 --> 00:17:45,184 + because that time her + parent was separate, - 161 - 00:07:12,484 --> 00:07:14,150 - just could move others. + 287 + 00:17:45,184 --> 00:17:47,795 + B cannot leave her alone. - 162 - 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:16,250 - It's coming, it's - coming, it's coming. + 288 + 00:17:47,795 --> 00:17:50,525 + And she wanted to + come along when when - 163 - 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:18,409 - And finally he was able just it, + 289 + 00:17:50,525 --> 00:17:53,914 + he took her with + two layered there, - 164 - 00:07:18,409 --> 00:07:21,245 - it came and just got him - in the side like that. + 290 + 00:17:53,914 --> 00:17:57,079 + they look at is not + like a relative or - 165 - 00:07:21,245 --> 00:07:27,680 - And he leaped up and it was - so real and he was awake now, + 291 + 00:17:57,079 --> 00:18:01,460 + threatened or something + because of the appearance. - 166 - 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,145 - but he jumped up and he - bares his side to see. + 292 + 00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:05,360 + And later on, that + girl, when she grow up, - 167 - 00:07:31,145 --> 00:07:33,514 - It is still burning. It - was still hot, Jesse, + 293 + 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,990 + see toll everything + about our background - 168 - 00:07:33,514 --> 00:07:36,560 - and he couldn't see any - sign of it on the body. + 294 + 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:12,890 + that she news than they found out - 169 - 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,515 - But something deeper - that had happened. + 295 + 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:20,735 + that he was pilot and + they tried to kill him. - 170 - 00:07:39,515 --> 00:07:42,830 - And you read ran out on the - deck and the snowstorm. + 296 + 00:18:20,735 --> 00:18:28,414 + But he tried to make it + work as hard as he can to - 171 - 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:45,509 - You've heard of John + 297 + 00:18:28,414 --> 00:18:32,610 + fulfill their - 172 - 00:07:45,580 --> 00:07:50,570 - the side kick, John Wesley John. + 298 + 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,635 + what is say, their commitment. - 173 - 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,430 - He was a slave driver. + 299 + 00:18:39,635 --> 00:18:43,190 + But one day they make - 174 - 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,950 - John Newton, he was converted, + 300 + 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:47,615 + a the whole relate chain - 175 - 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:56,839 - I believe in a - snowstorm on he was, + 301 + 00:18:47,615 --> 00:18:52,205 + by moving people from one + relate to another really. - 176 - 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,329 - he was just a simple - sitting saver, + 302 + 00:18:52,205 --> 00:18:56,195 + And that time is the time + that the more people - 177 - 00:07:59,329 --> 00:08:03,259 - sinner saved and he would say in, + 303 + 00:18:56,195 --> 00:19:00,319 + the access to Pat and unmute + during that NIH, no warning. - 178 - 00:08:03,259 --> 00:08:05,390 - in a snowstorm, or - the NYC, the ship. + 304 + 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:02,435 + So at the at night, - 179 - 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:07,910 - Well now Edwin, which a + 305 + 00:19:02,435 --> 00:19:04,549 + that night they told + everybody need to - 180 - 00:08:07,910 --> 00:08:10,280 - Christian and he was - a warm Christian. + 306 + 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:07,639 + Pat and to move to another + village because that, - 181 - 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,140 - When he came back - home, he had preached + 307 + 00:19:07,639 --> 00:19:12,199 + that the new will need more + people to finish their work. + + 308 + 00:19:12,199 --> 00:19:15,799 + And then they send + them through DNA. - 182 - 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:14,780 - and against a lot of page. + 309 + 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:18,170 + And later on I found out that he - 183 - 00:08:14,780 --> 00:08:16,279 - And they send an officer to + 310 + 00:19:18,170 --> 00:19:20,990 + die because I saw + belonging that they - 184 - 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:18,080 - check up on what that - young fellow is doing. + 311 + 00:19:20,990 --> 00:19:24,800 + took from them and distributed + to their old people to use - 185 - 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,825 - He's drawing people to - homes and preaching. + 312 + 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,244 + that little girl that + that lived with him? - 186 - 00:08:20,825 --> 00:08:22,494 - But he listened. He - couldn't finding + 313 + 00:19:30,244 --> 00:19:32,960 + I did. Who did she live - 187 - 00:08:22,494 --> 00:08:24,710 - the matter that memo saying so. + 314 + 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,795 + with after they move + to the nowadays? - 188 - 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:28,639 - Well, anyway, the Civil - War broke out and + 315 + 00:19:35,795 --> 00:19:39,695 + Her they took her to live + with death and family. - 189 - 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:32,480 - he joined the Navy and he was + 316 + 00:19:39,695 --> 00:19:44,345 + Okay. Because the have + some problem fighting, - 190 - 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,155 - soon became commander a - battleships or warships. + 317 + 00:19:44,345 --> 00:19:46,565 + arguing because at the food, - 191 - 00:08:36,155 --> 00:08:37,760 - Was it three or five that + 318 + 00:19:46,565 --> 00:19:49,340 + not enough food to eat + and people tried to set - 192 - 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,455 - He had commanded? Different ones. + 319 + 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:52,730 + Y and they steal from + each ADA to eat. - 193 - 00:08:39,455 --> 00:08:42,184 - You've all you, all of you - have heard of monitor, + 320 + 00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:54,620 + And then they saw that we - 194 - 00:08:42,184 --> 00:08:43,580 - monitor the Civil War. + 321 + 00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:58,115 + have in the night that and + then they split family. - 195 - 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:47,345 - The I and the Swedish - Jbuilder architect + 322 + 00:19:58,115 --> 00:20:02,869 + Even myself, I split to lay + that defend family and he, - 196 - 00:08:47,345 --> 00:08:49,535 - constructed it into - something new. + 323 + 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:05,675 + that his widely different family. - 197 - 00:08:49,535 --> 00:08:51,739 - And do you remember the - name of the southern ship + 324 + 00:20:05,675 --> 00:20:07,559 + Okay. - 198 - 00:08:51,739 --> 00:08:53,840 - that was coming along so strong? + 325 + 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:17,089 + So was 1979 - 199 - 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,370 - I was trying to think of it today + 326 + 00:20:17,089 --> 00:20:20,480 + when the Vietnamese + invaded Cambodia, - 200 - 00:08:56,620 --> 00:08:59,540 - with our mirror and - macro micro array. + 327 + 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,199 + was the first time you + fled from the village. - 201 - 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,330 - And the North had nothing - to meet that with. + 328 + 00:20:24,199 --> 00:20:26,749 + Were there ever other incidents - 202 - 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:03,710 - You know, here comes out to + 329 + 00:20:26,749 --> 00:20:31,865 + that they I I thought + the Vietnamese. - 203 - 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,840 - the DOM monitors - sailing along there. + 330 + 00:20:31,865 --> 00:20:36,544 + Came by because I live + near the highway. - 204 - 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,820 - I saw the picture of - it just yesterday. + 331 + 00:20:36,544 --> 00:20:38,660 + And I saw that and - 205 - 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:10,310 - I mean, I looked it - up and I'm done. + 332 + 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,400 + all the Khmer Rouge leader - 206 - 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:12,800 - Well, it was on that - that'll monitor. + 333 + 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,519 + escape the night before + because they knew they - 207 - 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,690 - He didn't command, but he - was on it at the time of + 334 + 00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:46,550 + have a radio that + they can listen to - 208 - 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:17,585 - the battle and somebody - else commanded it. + 335 + 00:20:46,550 --> 00:20:48,559 + the news through the radio - 209 - 00:09:17,585 --> 00:09:22,460 - And that bigger ship - fire, fired and hired. + 336 + 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,720 + and also the, the escape before. - 210 - 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:23,900 - And I don't know how much it hit, + 337 + 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,489 + So this only the population - 211 - 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:26,240 - but it is clenched off - of the iron there. + 338 + 00:20:52,489 --> 00:20:54,739 + that live in the + village stay there. - 212 - 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,890 - And the commander of the + 339 + 00:20:54,739 --> 00:20:58,909 + So the next day I saw the + Vietnamese troop came by and - 213 - 00:09:27,890 --> 00:09:30,395 - monetary came right back, - and it came right back. + 340 + 00:20:58,909 --> 00:21:03,485 + everybody thought that the + Cambodia was freeze again. - 214 - 00:09:30,395 --> 00:09:33,064 - And the Merrimack - didn't stay very long, + 341 + 00:21:03,485 --> 00:21:06,139 + And then everybody + trying to get into - 215 - 00:09:33,064 --> 00:09:35,555 - decided we'd better - get out of here. + 342 + 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:10,174 + the fear to grab our + rice that we can to - 216 - 00:09:35,555 --> 00:09:37,249 - Well, I'm telling - you that to show + 343 + 00:21:10,174 --> 00:21:13,819 + protect so we can live for + + 344 + 00:21:13,819 --> 00:21:18,814 + while until we know what's + going on in the country. - 217 - 00:09:37,249 --> 00:09:41,315 - that it was right in - the middle of things. + 345 + 00:21:18,814 --> 00:21:25,309 + And I live with the family + that I stayed there. - 218 - 00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:44,315 - And he commanded - several battleships. + 346 + 00:21:25,309 --> 00:21:28,015 + The whole during that - 219 - 00:09:44,315 --> 00:09:46,999 - But, you know, there's - something deep in his heart + 347 + 00:21:28,015 --> 00:21:32,359 + Camaro tried to help + them to collect. - 220 - 00:09:46,999 --> 00:09:50,060 - that was more interesting - than the Navy. + 348 + 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,890 + Are the right, keep it. - 221 - 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:52,265 - Or whenever the - accretion that way. + 349 + 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:36,740 + You get about a 100 pound - 222 - 00:09:52,265 --> 00:09:54,860 - So he went to the high - commander commoner, + 350 + 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,184 + or something like that. Keep it. - 223 - 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:57,575 - whoever that top was, an resign. + 351 + 00:21:39,184 --> 00:21:41,165 + And one week later, - 224 - 00:09:57,575 --> 00:09:59,510 - And you said you're - fooling shade, can you? + 352 + 00:21:41,165 --> 00:21:42,980 + I made decision because - 225 - 00:09:59,510 --> 00:10:01,999 - Foolish? You've got - everything that it + 353 + 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,260 + that time a lot of + people start moving to - 226 - 00:10:01,999 --> 00:10:05,150 - takes to be a commander - battleship than the Navy, + 354 + 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:49,039 + their own town and - 227 - 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:07,505 - you'll become a common - or do you know that? + 355 + 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:53,240 + they asked them that I'm + going to see my parents. - 228 - 00:10:07,505 --> 00:10:09,350 - Yes. That may be - true, that atrium, + 356 + 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,284 + And one week later I left. - 229 - 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:10,954 - but I have a higher calling + 357 + 00:21:56,284 --> 00:22:00,574 + I travel almost about - 230 - 00:10:10,954 --> 00:10:12,830 - something higher fire descended, + 358 + 00:22:00,574 --> 00:22:04,850 + two weeks and I reached + to my hometown. - 231 - 00:10:12,830 --> 00:10:17,130 - as we say somewhat - poetically. And he resign. + 359 + 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:07,505 + But when it yeah, + that the other firm. - 232 - 00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:19,760 - And then increasingly he felt + 360 + 00:22:07,505 --> 00:22:10,535 + Okay. Were you able to + locate your parents? - 233 - 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,680 - the need should be a training. + 361 + 00:22:10,535 --> 00:22:13,819 + I know that and that + time my parents did - 234 - 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,055 - Swedish pastures came - from Sweden to America. + 362 + 00:22:13,819 --> 00:22:17,180 + not escape from the + Khmer Rouge yet because - 235 - 00:10:25,055 --> 00:10:26,810 - And as long as - everything was Swedish, + 363 + 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,780 + she was a bucket to add - 236 - 00:10:26,810 --> 00:10:28,445 - they got along pretty good. + 364 + 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:24,740 + new or different village + from my home town. - 237 - 00:10:28,445 --> 00:10:30,500 - But it became worse and + 365 + 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:28,385 + That was your mother? My parents, - 238 - 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:34,685 - worse and some of them - didn't have much training. + 366 + 00:22:28,385 --> 00:22:31,460 + my brother and my sister. - 239 - 00:10:34,685 --> 00:10:37,235 - So there was a decision - under God to start + 367 + 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:36,065 + Okay. When I came to + the my my old hometown, - 240 - 00:10:37,235 --> 00:10:41,190 - a Swedish Baptist - seminary in Chicago. + 368 + 00:22:36,065 --> 00:22:39,335 + I saw only my my cousin - 241 - 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:44,540 - And you've heard many times, + 369 + 00:22:39,335 --> 00:22:42,845 + and the ADA relative + summed up my parents. - 242 - 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:45,980 - I suppose at Founders Week, + 370 + 00:22:42,845 --> 00:22:44,900 + Your parents, brother and sister. - 243 - 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,679 - that he started with one student, + 371 + 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:49,519 + Were they all sit together + to the same village? - 244 - 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,725 - and that student was silly. + 372 + 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,590 + I didn't know, but they say that - 245 - 00:10:51,725 --> 00:10:53,690 - And at Founders Week that night, + 373 + 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:55,820 + the first year they send + altogether and later on, - 246 - 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:55,160 - and there was a dedication + 374 + 00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:58,759 + my brother's split + up from them because - 247 - 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,290 - that was a Canvas symbol - of the history of + 375 + 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:02,014 + of the economic No, - 248 - 00:10:57,290 --> 00:11:00,050 - our school and the - kneeling in prayer + 376 + 00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:04,474 + not enough food to eat so much, - 249 - 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:03,380 - there and so on versus Trump. + 377 + 00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:08,719 + fled to the other area + trying to live by himself. - 250 - 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:04,520 - They're kind of a leather is + 378 + 00:23:08,719 --> 00:23:15,274 + And that time, my pen worth + got how are my brother? - 251 - 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,264 - there you had one student for + 379 + 00:23:15,274 --> 00:23:20,640 + My younger brother + got home before them. - 252 - 00:11:07,264 --> 00:11:11,840 - a whole semester and - then another one came. + 380 + 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,010 + Okay. What what village where - 253 - 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,090 - I don't remember his - name. Maybe you do. + 381 + 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:26,544 + your parents and sister + sent to? Where were they? - 254 - 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:17,135 - Shall we had two students - that first year, + 382 + 00:23:26,544 --> 00:23:28,449 + House was at near bottom mouth, - 255 - 00:11:17,135 --> 00:11:20,555 - but the whole thing - was a great struggle. + 383 + 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:32,890 + about 15 kilo meter + from Baltimore City - 256 - 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:23,810 - The American leaders - were very generous to + 384 + 00:23:32,890 --> 00:23:35,875 + along Highway phi k. - 257 - 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:26,060 - the Swedes that I was + 385 + 00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:39,230 + What was the name of that + village they call compound. - 258 - 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,030 - showing university for - awhile in the seminary. + 386 + 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,119 + And when the + vietnamese took over, - 259 - 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:32,540 - I was anxious for orientation - and I enjoyed it very much. + 387 + 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,615 + when they heard that + Vietnamese to tame the Camaro, - 260 - 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:36,650 - But I was in the class - of of the son of one of + 388 + 00:23:46,615 --> 00:23:53,425 + evacuate them from that place + to along the highway, go. - 261 - 00:11:36,650 --> 00:11:43,085 - the Baptists leadership - at the dais, good speed. + 389 + 00:23:53,425 --> 00:23:57,804 + As Jill is the carlo. - 262 - 00:11:43,085 --> 00:11:44,810 - Dr. good speed was one of + 390 + 00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:03,199 + Today, moan or say city. - 263 - 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:47,300 - the leaders of the American - Baptist that help. + 391 + 00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:10,150 + Okay. And now, in my eye, - 264 - 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:48,844 - And there were other - men like that. + 392 + 00:24:10,150 --> 00:24:14,109 + and April rising in April of 79, - 265 - 00:11:48,844 --> 00:11:50,780 - >> And there were times when he + 393 + 00:24:14,109 --> 00:24:17,935 + my dad and my brother, - 266 - 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:51,860 - had been married an American + 394 + 00:24:17,935 --> 00:24:23,470 + the youngest brother, + and my grandfather. - 267 - 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:54,740 - girl and she wasn't too - interested in Swedish work, + 395 + 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,919 + Let's die. At the same time. - 268 - 00:11:54,740 --> 00:11:57,935 - but she was gracious and - she didn't run away. + 396 + 00:24:26,919 --> 00:24:31,194 + During the big thunderstorm. - 269 - 00:11:57,935 --> 00:11:59,450 - But, you know, it was difficult + 397 + 00:24:31,194 --> 00:24:33,159 + Because he, they bought, - 270 - 00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:01,310 - for her from her standpoint. + 398 + 00:24:33,159 --> 00:24:35,439 + they all got struck by lightning. - 271 - 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:03,410 - And sometimes it didn't - have bread to eat. + 399 + 00:24:35,439 --> 00:24:37,839 + The diet here. Where was that? - 272 - 00:12:03,410 --> 00:12:06,320 - And you can hear - saying any wife would. + 400 + 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:42,790 + At? My moment to say, OK. Now, - 273 - 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,105 - Now, why did you leave the Navy? + 401 + 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:48,290 + was there was there something - 274 - 00:12:08,105 --> 00:12:09,695 - You were getting a big salary + 402 + 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:53,330 + significant about that + particular location - 275 - 00:12:09,695 --> 00:12:10,880 - and here we're struggling at + 403 + 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:56,675 + or that village or prison camp? - 276 - 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,960 - all and nobody seems to + 404 + 00:24:56,675 --> 00:24:58,820 + I recall someone telling me - 277 - 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,985 - care whether anything - happens or not. + 405 + 00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:01,880 + about prison camp + or a village near - 278 - 00:12:13,985 --> 00:12:18,620 - We can imagine or saying - that and that was true. + 406 + 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,890 + bottom bond that there were - 279 - 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:20,329 - And you've read - wreckage, I suppose, + 407 + 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:06,589 + bodies kept in a well or they + would throw bodies in well, - 280 - 00:12:20,329 --> 00:12:22,175 - where there was just - about starving in it. + 408 + 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:09,409 + was that they call it a day. - 281 - 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:25,235 - That came some money - on the school. + 409 + 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:13,040 + Okay. A diff this that + little foot for the okay. - 282 - 00:12:25,235 --> 00:12:27,815 - That came a few more - students all the time. + 410 + 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,029 + Okay. So your father, - 283 - 00:12:27,815 --> 00:12:30,900 - Very few though. - And the thing went, + 411 + 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:18,830 + one brother and grandfather, - 284 - 00:12:30,909 --> 00:12:35,540 - >> and you may have read in + 412 + 00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:20,645 + were struck by lightning? - 285 - 00:12:35,540 --> 00:12:37,099 - seminary records here of + 413 + 00:25:20,645 --> 00:25:32,189 + Okay. And how long did you + remain and bottom bar? - 286 - 00:12:37,099 --> 00:12:40,250 - eight Winship sort of - rules that he drew up. + 414 + 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,275 + I after my grandfather, - 287 - 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:41,765 - Poor association there. + 415 + 00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:42,739 + my father, my brother die. - 288 - 00:12:41,765 --> 00:12:45,215 - You remembered what one - rule was the nicest of all. + 416 + 00:25:42,739 --> 00:25:45,184 + And two weeks later, - 289 - 00:12:45,215 --> 00:12:46,640 - Well, anyway, it's this. + 417 + 00:25:45,184 --> 00:25:51,004 + my mother and my sister got out. - 290 - 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,820 - He said this is the rule - here in the seminar. + 418 + 00:25:51,004 --> 00:25:54,574 + They both get out + from the tomorrows. - 291 - 00:12:49,820 --> 00:12:51,979 - We're breathing, - nobody has high Lord, + 419 + 00:25:54,574 --> 00:26:00,559 + And then she returned to meet + me in my hometown again, - 292 - 00:12:51,979 --> 00:12:53,315 - nobody has King, + 420 + 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:06,454 + I believe at b and + now April of 1979. - 293 - 00:12:53,315 --> 00:12:55,940 - everybody has a brother - of everybody else. + 421 + 00:26:06,454 --> 00:26:09,920 + And I stay with them for a while. - 294 - 00:12:55,940 --> 00:12:58,294 - And we're working - together and the Lord + 422 + 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,095 + And we don't think that we can - 295 - 00:12:58,294 --> 00:13:01,084 - is our Lord and we are, + 423 + 00:26:12,095 --> 00:26:15,800 + live because I have + no full nothing. - 296 - 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:04,835 - is whether children - saw that irregular. + 424 + 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,370 + So my mom and my sister and - 297 - 00:13:04,835 --> 00:13:06,529 - And that's one of the foundation + 425 + 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:25,264 + my brother decide to + escape to Thailand. - 298 - 00:13:06,529 --> 00:13:08,435 - stones that he started with. + 426 + 00:26:25,264 --> 00:26:31,200 + During the man now, between + May and June and that time, - 299 - 00:13:08,435 --> 00:13:10,610 - And but it's just so difficult. + 427 + 00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,640 + when I reach Thailand, - 300 - 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:11,689 - There were times when there was + 428 + 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,709 + cam allowed the border. - 301 - 00:13:11,689 --> 00:13:13,460 - you just had to be discouraged. + 429 + 00:26:36,709 --> 00:26:39,590 + The carlo Non Jan cam. - 302 - 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,830 - One time I think you - wrote his resignation. + 430 + 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:43,280 + I'm a stay there a by two. - 303 - 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:19,475 - Many just didn't - descended and so on. + 431 + 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,654 + We at that time, - 304 - 00:13:19,475 --> 00:13:23,345 - And then his health broke down. + 432 + 00:26:46,654 --> 00:26:49,910 + the ties government brought - 305 - 00:13:23,345 --> 00:13:25,714 - Now I mentioned three tires, + 433 + 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:53,135 + all of the refugee + ban because are - 306 - 00:13:25,714 --> 00:13:28,445 - fire when he converted - in the dream. + 434 + 00:26:53,135 --> 00:26:58,310 + no international supervision + in that cam and too - 307 - 00:13:28,445 --> 00:13:31,804 - And the fire of the Civil War, + 435 + 00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:00,934 + proud and ties government - 308 - 00:13:31,804 --> 00:13:34,309 - which he went to, and - then the Chicago Fire, + 436 + 00:27:00,934 --> 00:27:05,629 + just lie to a saying that they + will move to a new place. - 309 - 00:13:34,309 --> 00:13:36,619 - just when they gotta - going a little bit than + 437 + 00:27:05,629 --> 00:27:10,639 + But actually they put us + on a bus in the morning. - 310 - 00:13:36,619 --> 00:13:39,545 - the Great Chicago Fire - broke out and that reside, + 438 + 00:27:10,639 --> 00:27:13,910 + And they draw was, are they RNA? - 311 - 00:13:39,545 --> 00:13:41,029 - and everybody thought that, that + 439 + 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:20,179 + Three, the destination is + the not psi of Cambodia. - 312 - 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:42,710 - in Chicago, Imodium sank. + 440 + 00:27:20,179 --> 00:27:22,024 + Along the border. - 313 - 00:13:42,710 --> 00:13:43,924 - He stood on the steps of + 441 + 00:27:22,024 --> 00:27:24,725 + And in the morning the sun dry, - 314 - 00:13:43,924 --> 00:13:46,640 - the old Moody Church, - seeing the flames. + 442 + 00:27:24,725 --> 00:27:26,990 + they start to push + or to walk across - 315 - 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,064 - And one set to the other, + 443 + 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:30,229 + the border into Cambodia, psi. - 316 - 00:13:48,064 --> 00:13:50,060 - this bounce, the destruction. + 444 + 00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:33,829 + And that time, a lot of people - 317 - 00:13:50,060 --> 00:13:53,145 - Chicago Moody had assembled - some things here, + 445 + 00:27:33,829 --> 00:27:37,610 + die because of the + mine along the border. - 318 - 00:13:53,145 --> 00:13:54,949 - but no, they said, Ed, can, + 446 + 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,924 + No. Where was the train? - 319 - 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:57,770 - I think that it green, + 447 + 00:27:40,924 --> 00:27:45,050 + Was this mountain slopes + and PD-L1 they call numb. - 320 - 00:13:57,770 --> 00:14:00,020 - got together some things + 448 + 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:54,094 + But Evie here that the the + the heavily cliff Hang on. - 321 - 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:02,825 - to know what you want - to put a signal. + 449 + 00:27:54,094 --> 00:27:55,970 + Cambodian psi. But from - 322 - 00:14:02,825 --> 00:14:05,419 - And then he was going - across the bridge and or + 450 + 00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:59,315 + the Thailand is + like a plane fear. - 323 - 00:14:05,419 --> 00:14:08,720 - the Chicago River fire, - we're following along. + 451 + 00:27:59,315 --> 00:28:04,215 + Mmm. So people were literally + pushed to their deaths. - 324 - 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,899 - And finally he got across - time that wouldn't + 452 + 00:28:04,215 --> 00:28:10,869 + Most people that were across + early in the morning, - 325 - 00:14:11,899 --> 00:14:14,270 - have whichever you had - to climb through potion, + 453 + 00:28:10,869 --> 00:28:14,650 + most of them die + because of the mind. - 326 - 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:16,250 - whatever it was it set up there. + 454 + 00:28:14,650 --> 00:28:17,904 + And the mind just blow + when all day long. - 327 - 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:17,720 - You finally got to - the other side. + 455 + 00:28:17,904 --> 00:28:20,290 + Because people didn't know. - 328 - 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,585 - You look me a heads - up, their own opinion. + 456 + 00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:21,924 + They just abandoned. - 329 - 00:14:20,585 --> 00:14:25,160 - Just rags or my telework - said that you saved + 457 + 00:28:21,924 --> 00:28:24,024 + And my family. - 330 - 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:31,624 - that spirits a lesson - for us all that well, + 458 + 00:28:24,024 --> 00:28:29,214 + But my relative, about 30 + people decide to stay, - 331 - 00:14:31,624 --> 00:14:37,309 - that was the Alexis a grid - he has helped broke down + 459 + 00:28:29,214 --> 00:28:34,479 + do not want to run back + to Cambodia until that - 332 - 00:14:37,309 --> 00:14:43,760 - and he resigned and - he went out west. + 460 + 00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:37,044 + the Thai soldier just till - 333 - 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,709 - And it's interesting now + 461 + 00:28:37,044 --> 00:28:40,209 + the garden trying to show that. - 334 - 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:47,330 - he's starting to - photographing gallery. + 462 + 00:28:40,209 --> 00:28:43,360 + And then we decide to + leave the last Chan. - 335 - 00:14:47,330 --> 00:14:49,700 - They're picking pictures, - photographs from Sony. + 463 + 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,544 + And I stay alone that water - 336 - 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:54,335 - I do something. His son - became a great sports writer. + 464 + 00:28:46,544 --> 00:28:51,395 + because the hurdle too many + mind-blowing that time. - 337 - 00:14:54,335 --> 00:14:59,400 - His son may have heard - that and all of that. + 465 + 00:28:51,395 --> 00:28:53,719 + So we decide to stay thereby, we, - 338 - 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:04,820 - Well then the next one that - they call Can you tell us + 466 + 00:28:53,719 --> 00:28:57,229 + without food and + water, that we drink, - 339 - 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:09,440 - more about is family - like his wife? + 467 + 00:28:57,229 --> 00:29:01,699 + the water that just flow + along with the body, - 340 - 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,300 - Anything more? You - mentioned her or children? + 468 + 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:04,504 + the sunlight than for one week. - 341 - 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:17,810 - How many children? - I I I'm not sure. + 469 + 00:29:04,504 --> 00:29:08,194 + And later on, we + saw the Vietnamese - 342 - 00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:19,400 - I'm sorry. + 470 + 00:29:08,194 --> 00:29:11,779 + true came by and help to get out. - 343 - 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,170 - Mj Ostrom, + 471 + 00:29:11,779 --> 00:29:14,389 + So we bwa followed their pad, - 344 - 00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:22,700 - who wrote the lives of eight + 472 + 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:17,015 + go back to Cambodia. - 345 - 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,980 - when it's in your - library, you know that. + 473 + 00:29:17,015 --> 00:29:18,874 + And where we're in Cambodia. - 346 - 00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:27,380 - And then if you I know - you don't have much time, + 474 + 00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:22,380 + Did you go to I - 347 - 00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:28,970 - you can do everything, but that's + 475 + 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:27,840 + about to mine back to + my home village again. - 348 - 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,040 - a complete story of - all the details. + 476 + 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,514 + And how long did you + stay in bottom mom? - 349 - 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,820 - And they were so crowded - per room that the + 477 + 00:29:32,514 --> 00:29:42,235 + I lived there until 198219 a2. - 350 - 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:36,800 - little boy now I think - that there's all + 478 + 00:29:42,235 --> 00:29:48,699 + And then I escape again. + During that period. - 351 - 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,780 - these by slip with the student. + 479 + 00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,829 + What were you doing in - 352 - 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:40,505 - When your student all strung, + 480 + 00:29:50,829 --> 00:29:55,400 + Battambang, roughly + between 791982? - 353 - 00:15:40,505 --> 00:15:43,160 - he left the minister sometime - and went into stake. + 481 + 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:05,004 + I start with the communication - 354 - 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,710 - Weren't hostile. - Very wonderful man. + 482 + 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,510 + and transport department in - 355 - 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:47,240 - He wrote histories and churches. + 483 + 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:15,439 + Guatemala City as + the regular employee - 356 - 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,319 - And that Dr. Adrian said - to Mr. Austin Student, + 484 + 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:20,939 + because I do not want anybody + knows about my background. - 357 - 00:15:51,319 --> 00:15:52,639 - You said knife, he - doesn't behave, + 485 + 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:31,219 + And after a year later than 1980, - 358 - 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,540 - you just give him a spanking - is actually don't hesitate. + 486 + 00:30:31,219 --> 00:30:33,935 + I was Yeah. - 359 - 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:58,069 - He said When I looked into + 487 + 00:30:33,935 --> 00:30:36,979 + That's close to 81. - 360 - 00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:59,989 - the blue eyes or that boy I could + 488 + 00:30:36,979 --> 00:30:39,950 + And I moved to we're in - 361 - 00:15:59,989 --> 00:16:02,480 - inspect it will consider + 489 + 00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:42,859 + the office because they + know that I can do + + 490 + 00:30:42,859 --> 00:30:44,585 + some paperwork in the office - 362 - 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,655 - that story. 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Yeah. Maybe a + backup a little I guess. - 371 - 00:16:23,105 --> 00:16:24,605 - And then the Civil War + 2 + 00:00:10,590 --> 00:00:13,050 + Maybe at the point of mentioning - 372 - 00:16:24,605 --> 00:16:26,390 - and then the Chicago - Fire and all of that. + 3 + 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:16,360 + you started working in an office. - 373 - 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:28,850 - The throne in together - went through that. + 4 + 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:21,630 + Oh, OK. Yeah. - 374 - 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:31,340 - And then he has - helped wrote down and + 5 + 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:24,030 + Now, you had mentioned that + you had been working in - 375 - 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:34,730 - he went west Oakland, California. + 6 + 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:25,830 + an office doing some work - 376 - 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:36,394 - John output Ericsson, + 7 + 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:28,080 + with bookkeeping, + things of that nature. - 377 - 00:16:36,394 --> 00:16:39,050 - which Pashto there at the - time, time of his death. + 8 + 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,950 + What other kinds of work + did you do? In the office? - 378 - 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:41,674 - On No, he was brought + 9 + 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:41,860 + At? My job is the typing, + the employee idlis, - 379 - 00:16:41,674 --> 00:16:43,100 - back across the country to + 10 + 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:47,660 + and then Phyllis, + all that were and - 380 - 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:44,660 - a general conference in Chicago. + 11 + 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:55,145 + then have all the administrator + sign on that list. - 381 - 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:47,120 - That's the last time he - appeared. When was that? + 12 + 00:00:55,145 --> 00:01:01,400 + And then we take the let's + go to the bank to get money. - 382 - 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:54,930 - Well, 9019191, night. + 13 + 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,130 + Because we start to have money. - 383 - 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:57,800 - We came to a peak of + 14 + 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:11,585 + I think around 1980 is the + new government in Cambodia. - 384 - 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:05,645 - Kansas in nineteen hundred - nineteen hundred or 191. + 15 + 00:01:11,585 --> 00:01:16,445 + They start to have money for + people to spend that time - 385 - 00:17:05,645 --> 00:17:10,220 - He moved to California in about - 1888 or and that's right? + 16 + 00:01:16,445 --> 00:01:22,790 + and then be my job to + help to make the list. - 386 - 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:13,579 - Yes. Yeah. Because at - the turn of the decade, + 17 + 00:01:22,790 --> 00:01:24,650 + Okay. Did you have - 387 - 00:17:13,579 --> 00:17:15,110 - Dr. logger Grant took over. + 18 + 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:26,915 + any other jobs while - 388 - 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:16,895 - Yes. I remember that gate. + 19 + 00:01:26,915 --> 00:01:29,600 + during this period + before you left again? - 389 - 00:17:16,895 --> 00:17:18,890 - And I figure let me tell - you something do check. + 20 + 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:41,000 + No. Highlights and end till + 1982 in June. June 1982. - 390 - 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:21,230 - Said to my wife. I uncheck - on this on myself. + 21 + 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,630 + Okay. What what was it + like in bottom bog with, - 391 - 00:17:21,230 --> 00:17:24,030 - So humbling to understand. + 22 + 00:01:47,630 --> 00:01:50,929 + with a new occupation, - 392 - 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:26,285 - But I don't nobody has children. + 23 + 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:52,445 + new people in power, - 393 - 00:17:26,285 --> 00:17:28,909 - I thought that boy told us + 24 + 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:55,700 + whether still incidents + of of abuses of - 394 - 00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:33,335 - about they call - luxuriant, who, which he? + 25 + 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:59,165 + power or were things fairly + stable, fairly calm. - 395 - 00:17:33,335 --> 00:17:36,905 - Well, he was a scholar from - Uppsala University in Sweden. + 26 + 00:01:59,165 --> 00:02:01,230 + What was it like there? - 396 - 00:17:36,905 --> 00:17:39,230 - The university, I - suppose you could say. + 27 + 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,360 + The new ghetto men? - 397 - 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:43,025 - And he was somehow - related to royal blood. + 28 + 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,730 + It deal. - 398 - 00:17:43,025 --> 00:17:44,389 - That's all we'll - say about that will + 29 + 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:12,800 + Keep looking. The people + that have connected - 399 - 00:17:44,389 --> 00:17:46,535 - reunite related to royal blood. + 30 + 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:23,180 + with some get shiny background. - 400 - 00:17:46,535 --> 00:17:50,750 - And it resembled hitting. - Firstname is gusto. + 31 + 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:26,390 + And also the one to know - 401 - 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:53,029 - And King gusto, they - named him got started + 32 + 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:29,810 + about the background + of the employee - 402 - 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:56,780 - because he's released - him there. I suppose. + 33 + 00:02:29,810 --> 00:02:37,310 + before you can get in to work + in the office or whatever. - 403 - 00:17:56,780 --> 00:17:59,345 - Atlas, true, you don't - want to spell that out, + 34 + 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:40,714 + They are. They asked + about the background, - 404 - 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,669 - but he, he said, + 35 + 00:02:40,714 --> 00:02:44,090 + writing like a resume, - 405 - 00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:03,410 - you know, meaning spiritually. + 36 + 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:47,665 + but I dare not trust them. - 406 - 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:05,300 - He said to one of the classes + 37 + 00:02:47,665 --> 00:02:49,609 + Still Hi my identity. - 407 - 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,764 - and one of the seven students, + 38 + 00:02:49,609 --> 00:02:54,120 + I didn't tell anybody except + my friend at no, before. - 408 - 00:18:06,764 --> 00:18:08,900 - and I've been in - his class, but he + 39 + 00:02:54,670 --> 00:03:00,005 + Were were people + are being picked up - 409 - 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,720 - said he was telling about it's - wonderful to be in Christ. + 40 + 00:03:00,005 --> 00:03:02,300 + where detention camps being still - 410 - 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,535 - It's wonderful to - be a child of God. + 41 + 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,135 + in existence in + Cambodia that time? - 411 - 00:18:13,535 --> 00:18:15,545 - It's wonderful to have - him in our heart. + 42 + 00:03:05,135 --> 00:03:10,534 + Yeah. They asked + all the employees - 412 - 00:18:15,545 --> 00:18:18,695 - And he said, Dick cone and - a blue with the desktop. + 43 + 00:03:10,534 --> 00:03:16,834 + go to training lake every two + the same they'd tomorrow's. - 413 - 00:18:18,695 --> 00:18:22,490 - Although there's King's blood - in these veins coursing, + 44 + 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:23,450 + But they gave us some freedom + to do something by their - 414 - 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:26,270 - you said, well that was that - he met spirit to love it. + 45 + 00:03:23,450 --> 00:03:26,765 + own because they didn't hold - 415 - 00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:28,235 - The boys thought those - who knew about it. + 46 + 00:03:26,765 --> 00:03:32,000 + a common kitchen + or As a two-word, - 416 - 00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:30,245 - But he had a wonderful mother + 47 + 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,015 + as that grew up in + a village anymore. + + 48 + 00:03:35,015 --> 00:03:37,595 + So we can do whatever V1. - 417 - 00:18:30,245 --> 00:18:32,405 - and she was a wonderful mother. + 49 + 00:03:37,595 --> 00:03:39,980 + But if the people that don't - 418 - 00:18:32,405 --> 00:18:35,149 - Storage that test - bring out, you know, + 50 + 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:42,770 + have enough resources to those, - 419 - 00:18:35,149 --> 00:18:38,450 - and we've asked about that. + 51 + 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:47,345 + the crop or something + like that that relates, - 420 - 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,879 - Well, I tell this - incident now you + 52 + 00:03:47,345 --> 00:03:50,180 + that relates leader provides - 421 - 00:18:40,879 --> 00:18:44,400 - forgive photographer myself, - I never do anything. + 53 + 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:53,270 + subnet and the ASA + to work as a team, - 422 - 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:50,420 - When we run the farm eggs - for $0.05 a dozen we sold. + 54 + 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:57,019 + but similar to the + tomatoes before. - 423 - 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:52,969 - And my mother would sell eggs and + 55 + 00:03:57,019 --> 00:03:59,330 + Now, you stated that you you - 424 - 00:18:52,969 --> 00:18:56,270 - butter and by calico - and coffee and sugar. + 56 + 00:03:59,330 --> 00:04:01,760 + laughed Cambodia in June of 1982. - 425 - 00:18:56,270 --> 00:19:00,079 - Now that's the depression - days of the nineties. And + 57 + 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,660 + Yeah. Why did you + leave at that time? - 426 - 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,674 - OK, again, when he - came to America, + 58 + 00:04:05,660 --> 00:04:08,510 + Was did something happen + to you want to if we - 427 - 00:19:02,674 --> 00:19:04,445 - I remember I was - talking about this + 59 + 00:04:08,510 --> 00:04:13,565 + or I have some pressure from work - 428 - 00:19:04,445 --> 00:19:06,709 - and he said he wanted - to visit the churches, + 60 + 00:04:13,565 --> 00:04:18,320 + because I feel that people trying - 429 - 00:19:06,709 --> 00:19:08,150 - Swedish churches in America. + 61 + 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:25,070 + to dating to find + out the background, - 430 - 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:10,475 - There were scattered from - coast to coast by that time. + 62 + 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:28,805 + my background because 11 time - 431 - 00:19:10,475 --> 00:19:12,920 - And he was down to - Kansas and he said, + 63 + 00:04:28,805 --> 00:04:34,050 + I was selected to go to study. - 432 - 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,960 - Oh, it was terribly - warm in Kansas. + 64 + 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,645 + And the people in that + department select myself. - 433 - 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,329 - I came into a room, there's - a guest and I said, + 65 + 00:04:38,645 --> 00:04:41,120 + But the other trend that we're - 434 - 00:19:17,329 --> 00:19:19,729 - Could I have a drink - of water is kind of + 66 + 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,080 + going to go to learn how to, - 435 - 00:19:19,729 --> 00:19:23,795 - our polytope and the Kaddish - violence he told them. + 67 + 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:53,540 + because they create a new + department called taxation. - 436 - 00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:27,979 - But the dates, I figure this way, + 68 + 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:56,885 + And know that I can go + they see like me to go. - 437 - 00:19:27,979 --> 00:19:29,719 - if you'll forgive me not mother + 69 + 00:04:56,885 --> 00:04:59,300 + But before I can go, - 438 - 00:19:29,719 --> 00:19:31,549 - sent he was going to come - in at the station at + 70 + 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:03,395 + I need to have background checks. - 439 - 00:19:31,549 --> 00:19:33,800 - whatever hill town lottery grant + 71 + 00:05:03,395 --> 00:05:07,835 + My name was sent to the office. - 440 - 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,630 - and coming out of our - little church there. + 72 + 00:05:07,835 --> 00:05:13,370 + They call as the Cambodian + what they call carrier lie. - 441 - 00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:38,780 - And my mother and father sent - Albert, That's a seconds, + 73 + 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:17,240 + Just doesn't that mean + the appointment office. - 442 - 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:40,159 - and he was Nixon on older to + 74 + 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,190 + Before they can appoint you to - 443 - 00:19:40,159 --> 00:19:42,515 - my brother Alfred - hits. You know, AJ + 75 + 00:05:19,190 --> 00:05:21,560 + go you need to go + through that office, - 444 - 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:45,155 - I was five, I - figured occupy them. + 76 + 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,000 + the check our background. - 445 - 00:19:45,155 --> 00:19:47,599 - And she sent us and - father sent to of + 77 + 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,560 + They come to look at + physical and they look at - 446 - 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:50,960 - course to meet logger - grin at the sub tree. + 78 + 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,515 + your face trying to ask - 447 - 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,640 - I mean, little country - trained, you know, + 79 + 00:05:30,515 --> 00:05:33,845 + or their friend about + the background. - 448 - 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,300 - and she gave us several - extra sale and she said, + 80 + 00:05:33,845 --> 00:05:37,729 + And I went through that process. - 449 - 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:57,769 - now you voice can have + 81 + 00:05:37,729 --> 00:05:42,290 + I fail because they look at they - 450 - 00:19:57,769 --> 00:20:00,350 - this egg to sell - and buy candy for. + 82 + 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:44,930 + say I have some kind of - 451 - 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:01,850 - Get $0.05 for genome. + 83 + 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:48,560 + a Chinese ethnic and + they don't trust it. - 452 - 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:04,235 - And so we bought candy for $0.05. + 84 + 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,225 + Okay. And the other friend + a path they can go. - 453 - 00:20:04,235 --> 00:20:09,020 - Well, when we got to the station, + 85 + 00:05:53,225 --> 00:05:57,950 + Okay. Now, what did that mean + than if they failed you, - 454 - 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:10,700 - we got to town, we - would got Dr. law, + 86 + 00:05:57,950 --> 00:06:01,175 + that that meant that you + didn't get that opportunity. - 455 - 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:17,360 - given he was a very stately - person and dignity scholar. + 87 + 00:06:01,175 --> 00:06:04,445 + But did that mean they might + come after you then later? - 456 - 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,985 - And in Sweden, you know, - there's a great Git. + 88 + 00:06:04,445 --> 00:06:06,380 + I didn't know at that time, - 457 - 00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:25,080 - You don't say you, they say - him use the third person. + 89 + 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:09,575 + but I feel that it's + not safe to stay. - 458 - 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:32,240 - They use it for a little - bit about the new this. + 90 + 00:06:09,575 --> 00:06:14,330 + And also my relative have - 459 - 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,260 - He wants a glass of water. + 91 + 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:17,075 + some problem in my hometown - 460 - 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,974 - That means, you - know, third-person + 92 + 00:06:17,075 --> 00:06:20,525 + because they knew that + IVR escaped before, - 461 - 00:20:35,974 --> 00:20:39,050 - menu's done, I remember. + 93 + 00:06:20,525 --> 00:06:24,890 + during 1979 or my + family that escape it. - 462 - 00:20:39,050 --> 00:20:41,670 - And with him was August - Johnson, who was a missionary. + 94 + 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:27,440 + And we don't want to, - 463 - 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:44,359 - Went around or salary just - helping the poor farmers in + 95 + 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,605 + we're in the farm to feel again. - 464 - 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,419 - Western Kansas and getting + 96 + 00:06:30,605 --> 00:06:33,740 + So am I trying to escape? - 465 - 00:20:47,419 --> 00:20:49,415 - what he got a brother in - Chicago. We helped him. + 97 + 00:06:33,740 --> 00:06:40,070 + So the last time a escape + it my way because I got - 466 - 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:50,660 - He's a tailored therapy, + 98 + 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:43,355 + married and in November 1981 - 467 - 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:53,555 - but he was in that week - two when we met him. + 99 + 00:06:43,355 --> 00:06:47,060 + and I escaped with my + wife and my wife URL. - 468 - 00:20:53,555 --> 00:20:56,900 - And I was I was + 100 + 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:54,785 + Pattern and her sibling and + also my mother and my sister, - 469 - 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:58,700 - five years old and I have + 101 + 00:06:54,785 --> 00:06:57,260 + except my brother, that - 470 - 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,890 - had the time and forgive - me for saying this, + 102 + 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,555 + he got married and + her two children. - 471 - 00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,740 - but that little boy that + 103 + 00:06:59,555 --> 00:07:02,060 + He cannot escape at that time. - 472 - 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:06,935 - I think is spring spring - bucket, we call it. + 104 + 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:04,985 + So he decided to stay. - 473 - 00:21:06,935 --> 00:21:09,140 - I was privileged to come to + 105 + 00:07:04,985 --> 00:07:10,740 + Ok. And how long did it take + you to get to the border? - 474 - 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:11,150 - the same school where + 106 + 00:07:11,530 --> 00:07:15,995 + From bottom bond to border? - 475 - 00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:13,745 - Dr. long range to be the - dean of the seminary. + 107 + 00:07:15,995 --> 00:07:18,965 + Only one day. - 476 - 00:21:13,745 --> 00:21:15,640 - We never know when - you see a little boy, + 108 + 00:07:18,965 --> 00:07:21,905 + Did you have any problems + crossing the border? - 477 - 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,760 - they're all better than I am. + 109 + 00:07:21,905 --> 00:07:24,425 + How would happen? - 478 - 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,710 - And there's segments, you - never know what's going + 110 + 00:07:24,425 --> 00:07:26,840 + I gotta arrest one time. - 479 - 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:21,410 - to become a euro. + 111 + 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,430 + They put me in jail. - 480 - 00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:23,975 - That makes the - difference it makes, + 112 + 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:30,690 + They call seize upon. - 481 - 00:21:23,975 --> 00:21:26,270 - I read that the - first 12 months of + 113 + 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:35,230 + They arrested you + and put you in jail. - 482 - 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:30,304 - a baby is the most important - predators like it makes, + 114 + 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:37,270 + What happened? How + long were you in jail? - 483 - 00:21:30,304 --> 00:21:31,640 - it makes an impression on him. + 115 + 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:40,090 + Only one day, window in + the morning and then - 484 - 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,470 - That's ending whether - he knows it or not. + 116 + 00:07:40,090 --> 00:07:43,540 + laid a learning my pattern, - 485 - 00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:35,810 - And then the article said - that what did it say? + 117 + 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:46,510 + just negotiate the + people over there, - 486 - 00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:38,165 - That the father should be with - him as well as the mother? + 118 + 00:07:46,510 --> 00:07:50,200 + tried to bribe them to get + me and my life outlet that. - 487 - 00:21:38,165 --> 00:21:39,860 - The father should be - with him half the + 119 + 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,345 + Okay. And then we come back to - 488 - 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:42,680 - time or the first 12 months, + 120 + 00:07:52,345 --> 00:07:54,850 + bite them both to live for + about a couple of months. - 489 - 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,569 - mother the other time - or at the same time, + 121 + 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:57,740 + And I made lately again. - 490 - 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:46,625 - it's on it's so important. + 122 + 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 + While you were in jail, - 491 - 00:21:46,625 --> 00:21:49,280 - Well, you know, + 123 + 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 + did anything did + they interrogate you - 492 - 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,245 - children are important. - Intends to kill + 124 + 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,610 + or abuse you in any way? - 493 - 00:21:51,245 --> 00:21:53,510 - my daughter, Hellen, - whom, you know, + 125 + 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:10,450 + Because it's only one day + that didn't do anything yet. - 494 - 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:54,770 - it's just closing her work now, + 126 + 00:08:10,450 --> 00:08:14,060 + They just put me at the + dyadic people matter. - 495 - 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:58,535 - five years teaching the little - children to the church. + 127 + 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:18,590 + Okay. You return to bottom bond. - 496 - 00:21:58,535 --> 00:22:00,110 - He's done a wonderful job. + 128 + 00:08:18,590 --> 00:08:22,130 + You were there for two more + months and then you yes. - 497 - 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:03,079 - So you've done a wonderful - job just closing these days + 129 + 00:08:22,130 --> 00:08:23,465 + About to learn. - 498 - 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:06,034 - now and she's resigning well, + 130 + 00:08:23,465 --> 00:08:26,420 + Okay. And then I escape + again because I'm - 499 - 00:22:06,034 --> 00:22:07,879 - and she had been in that - work and she's loved we've + 131 + 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:29,510 + afraid I have some + problem with that. - 500 - 00:22:07,879 --> 00:22:11,119 - got a huge well, + 132 + 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:34,340 + And then next time that IS + that last time I escape? - 501 - 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:18,815 - not Lager came and the - Seminary was in Chicago. + 133 + 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:36,515 + A yes. - 502 - 00:22:18,815 --> 00:22:21,365 - It had moved to different - places, of course, + 134 + 00:08:36,515 --> 00:08:39,410 + Highest somebody + trying to help me - 503 - 00:22:21,365 --> 00:22:24,860 - litres in St. Paul - awhile trumps pretty + 135 + 00:08:39,410 --> 00:08:43,980 + to go through the Alone the way. - 504 - 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:26,960 - Nebraska file and - they're going to give + 136 + 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:46,490 + Did you go by yourself + or did you go - 505 - 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,255 - them some money if they'd - come there and all of that. + 137 + 00:08:46,490 --> 00:08:48,260 + with the same group of people? - 506 - 00:22:29,255 --> 00:22:31,745 - But mainly in Chicago. + 138 + 00:08:48,260 --> 00:08:52,580 + The same people but a + little bit different time. - 507 - 00:22:31,745 --> 00:22:33,499 - There were three professors, + 139 + 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:58,685 + Okay. While you were in + Battambang that last time, - 508 - 00:22:33,499 --> 00:22:36,680 - Dr. logger in Dr. - Sandel, Dr. Hindi. + 140 + 00:08:58,685 --> 00:09:00,755 + did anything unusual happened? - 509 - 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,780 - And there was a petition - there for awhile. + 141 + 00:09:00,755 --> 00:09:02,870 + We're authorities looking for you - 510 - 00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:42,530 - Now the generals the American - bread and were very kind. + 142 + 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:08,120 + or they keep an eye + on me all the time. - 511 - 00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:44,630 - There came a time when - they paid two with + 143 + 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,340 + Because I live in - 512 - 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:46,490 - the professors and - the Swedish people. + 144 + 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:13,130 + the bookkeeping and loaded with - 513 - 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:48,170 - We paid one profession, + 145 + 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:16,265 + the money that people are + just keep watching me. - 514 - 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:49,984 - we pay log min - salary, real estate, + 146 + 00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:21,185 + But every day I feel + like a lot of pressure - 515 - 00:22:49,984 --> 00:22:54,515 - and then each of the two - got 50, whatever it was. + 147 + 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:24,320 + that you felt that they might - 516 - 00:22:54,515 --> 00:22:57,170 - And maybe Dean got more - of those three with + 148 + 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,075 + eventually arrest you and - 517 - 00:22:57,170 --> 00:23:00,170 - the professors and everything - was taught in Sweden. + 149 + 00:09:26,075 --> 00:09:28,385 + perhaps send you + away or kill you? - 518 - 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:02,569 - Chip Koch Lager even - didn't have the + 150 + 00:09:28,385 --> 00:09:34,670 + Probably. Okay. Okay. + So you had hired - 519 - 00:23:02,569 --> 00:23:05,420 - efficient that - wouldn't go forever. + 151 + 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:37,040 + someone to help you + and your family - 520 - 00:23:05,420 --> 00:23:07,190 - He said wanted to their students, + 152 + 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,050 + escape and then this - 521 - 00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:09,125 - don't worry about the - English language. + 153 + 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:41,375 + time you were successful + in crossing the border? - 522 - 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:10,490 - Don't try to think. + 154 + 00:09:41,375 --> 00:09:43,880 + Yeah. Ok. And then - 523 - 00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:13,520 - You have to. You will never - have to preach in English. + 155 + 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,115 + where did you go after + you cross the border? - 524 - 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,770 - It's going to be - sweets all the time. + 156 + 00:09:46,115 --> 00:09:51,740 + I stay in that - 525 - 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:18,185 - He said, well, he that is - like a vision, you know. + 157 + 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:57,575 + they call ME that's as + close to the border. - 526 - 00:23:18,185 --> 00:23:21,110 - And finally, finally he resigned. + 158 + 00:09:57,575 --> 00:10:00,380 + Stayed there about three months. - 527 - 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:22,415 - He stayed on to long, + 159 + 00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:04,940 + And I don't have + money to go again - 528 - 00:23:22,415 --> 00:23:25,810 - many would say I'm membrane - Bethel Church, Minneapolis. + 160 + 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:10,160 + to carried out camp because + they need to walk about. - 529 - 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:27,290 - He and his seminar had + 161 + 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,245 + Alma, RNA tried to get away + from the Thai soldier from - 530 - 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:29,825 - a commencement that - church that church. + 162 + 00:10:15,245 --> 00:10:20,045 + the robbery, dropped that. - 531 - 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:33,034 - And my pastor WHO + 163 + 00:10:20,045 --> 00:10:22,220 + You don't know how to get there. - 532 - 00:23:33,034 --> 00:23:35,134 - introduced him or - something and he said, + 164 + 00:10:22,220 --> 00:10:26,270 + You will be wrapped by or assault - 533 - 00:23:35,134 --> 00:23:37,340 - Well, Dr. logging and - won't be with us. + 165 + 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:30,515 + by the Thai people or by + the soul allowed the bada. - 534 - 00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:41,899 - So very long ago that - login got up and he said, + 166 + 00:10:30,515 --> 00:10:36,020 + Okay. So then did - 535 - 00:23:41,899 --> 00:23:43,729 - when it comes time to resign, + 167 + 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:38,090 + you eventually end up + in carrier and and - 536 - 00:23:43,729 --> 00:23:46,140 - it'll be either will result. + 168 + 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:41,550 + I I reached carried down. - 537 - 00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:52,069 - But even then he had a - pension and he resigned + 169 + 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:48,170 + That's l2. Care. + With your family? - 538 - 00:23:52,069 --> 00:23:56,420 - then that live to the age of 75. + 170 + 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:50,600 + Yeah. Okay. All of you together? - 539 - 00:23:56,420 --> 00:23:59,615 - And Qi He never use glasses. + 171 + 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,525 + Okay. How long were + you and carried on? - 540 - 00:23:59,615 --> 00:24:01,910 - You weren't in these - classes with him? + 172 + 00:10:56,525 --> 00:11:07,310 + I stay and carried out + until December 1983. - 541 - 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:03,305 - He never used glasses. + 173 + 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:17,620 + Okay. Okay. What did + you do and carry down? - 542 - 00:24:03,305 --> 00:24:05,389 - He said to me once, - it's a weakness to + 174 + 00:11:17,620 --> 00:11:20,740 + I start working because I feel - 543 - 00:24:05,389 --> 00:24:07,580 - use flash and it shows - that you're not all there. + 175 + 00:11:20,740 --> 00:11:23,230 + like I'm so depressed there. - 544 - 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:09,815 - It's a weakness to - erode, less inhibited. + 176 + 00:11:23,230 --> 00:11:25,450 + Whenever they're there for a few, - 545 - 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,795 - He didn't have to use cheaper + 177 + 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:27,490 + we have nothing to do. - 546 - 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:15,230 - and that mattress - that with lowering. + 178 + 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:28,960 + Really like it live in - 547 - 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:20,000 - Now, did you did you ever - hear Ed Goodman Preet? + 179 + 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,020 + the jail because to + have a fun around, - 548 - 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,399 - You know, I missed it or I met + 180 + 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:34,220 + you cannot walk anywhere. - 549 - 00:24:22,399 --> 00:24:25,805 - him or when you - watched in Chicago, + 181 + 00:11:34,350 --> 00:11:36,730 + And I start working with - 550 - 00:24:25,805 --> 00:24:28,670 - I could've gone, - but my mother and + 182 + 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:43,910 + the IRC, International + Rescue Committee. - 551 - 00:24:28,670 --> 00:24:30,709 - father thought it - wasn't necessarily + 183 + 00:11:44,950 --> 00:11:48,540 + And what kind of work + were you doing with them? - 552 - 00:24:30,709 --> 00:24:32,780 - that I go and they regret it. + 184 + 00:11:48,730 --> 00:11:53,930 + Doing the lab technician as - 553 - 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:34,430 - A lot of things. You - know, we spent a year + 185 + 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:57,275 + the blood bank and keep the blood - 554 - 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:36,140 - in sweet mother - ministry children. + 186 + 00:11:57,275 --> 00:12:01,550 + ordered blood for + the hospital there. - 555 - 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:38,180 - My sister and I. She's - 12 and I was ten. + 187 + 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:05,540 + And I have some background + about that then - 556 - 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:40,700 - We just went to visit - relatives in Sweden. + 188 + 00:12:05,540 --> 00:12:10,940 + that time I cannot speak + English very well. - 557 - 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,279 - And she said afterwards - she didn't realize how + 189 + 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:14,855 + So I just mixed with friends + and English all the time. - 558 - 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,679 - much it would mean to - have two years there, + 190 + 00:12:14,855 --> 00:12:17,525 + And my friend over + there teach me to - 559 - 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:46,969 - an excursion to stop cone, + 191 + 00:12:17,525 --> 00:12:21,330 + Howard and keep + learning from them. - 560 - 00:24:46,969 --> 00:24:48,395 - but, but we didn't go. + 192 + 00:12:23,890 --> 00:12:27,710 + Did you go to any other + camps after carried down, - 561 - 00:24:48,395 --> 00:24:51,170 - And the same with this. + 193 + 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:28,940 + where did you come directly - 562 - 00:24:51,170 --> 00:24:52,999 - Now, this is in Chicago - and I wanted to go, + 194 + 00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:30,710 + to the United States after that? - 563 - 00:24:52,999 --> 00:24:54,410 - and I don't blame my parents. + 195 + 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:33,830 + Now, I work with - 564 - 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,719 - But they they said, well, Henry, + 196 + 00:12:33,830 --> 00:12:37,370 + the International Red + Cross for a few months. - 565 - 00:24:56,719 --> 00:24:59,390 - he can be important that - you should go there. + 197 + 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:39,800 + And then at that time I file - 566 - 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:01,640 - And that's when they - introduced him for + 198 + 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,220 + a petition to come + to United State. - 567 - 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,410 - the last time and it took up + 199 + 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:47,780 + And later on I was + a subnet to come. - 568 - 00:25:03,410 --> 00:25:05,300 - an offering as a gift to him. + 200 + 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:52,160 + And I went to work with the JV, - 569 - 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:06,830 - I hope it's big, but - I'm afraid it wasn't. + 201 + 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,675 + a detailed jar + involuntary agency for - 570 - 00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:11,915 - Biggest. Should've is now - longer granted. Rushdie, + 202 + 00:12:56,675 --> 00:13:02,390 + interpreting how people + and 6AM until December 83. - 571 - 00:25:11,915 --> 00:25:19,685 - and he wish she'll + 203 + 00:13:02,390 --> 00:13:06,655 + They move my my summer, - 572 - 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,680 - say that she had the - same lectures year + 204 + 00:13:06,655 --> 00:13:13,040 + my wife, to a processing + cam and Sean Murray. - 573 - 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,089 - after year and you know who + 205 + 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,140 + And that time, the GABA-A - 574 - 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:24,200 - it's easier to teach and yeah, + 206 + 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:23,765 + won me to go back to work with + them again and carry down. - 575 - 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,330 - that and they used to say, + 207 + 00:13:23,765 --> 00:13:27,725 + And they asked me to and I say, - 576 - 00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:30,229 - God forgive me for the paper - on which it was written, + 208 + 00:13:27,725 --> 00:13:29,600 + yes, decide to go back to work. - 577 - 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:31,760 - resume with age and oh, + 209 + 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,035 + But my wife and John + Murray came for awhile. - 578 - 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,700 - good theology and so on. + 210 + 00:13:33,035 --> 00:13:36,545 + And after I've gone back to + work for a few about man. - 579 - 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:37,520 - And what was it like - in the classroom? + 211 + 00:13:36,545 --> 00:13:39,260 + And they say that they - 580 - 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,209 - Well, you didn't see him - when he was very dignified + 212 + 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:41,750 + want my wife to go + to Philippine to - 581 - 00:25:41,209 --> 00:25:43,250 - and he was very - courteous to just like + 213 + 00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:43,820 + learn English first and - 582 - 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,530 - it should be very courteous. + 214 + 00:13:43,820 --> 00:13:47,270 + leave me to work with + them for six months. - 583 - 00:25:45,530 --> 00:25:48,920 - He said once that - commencement, he said, + 215 + 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:50,645 + And I have an + algorithm with them. - 584 - 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,630 - now when this is over, + 216 + 00:13:50,645 --> 00:13:52,220 + I don't want to - 585 - 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:54,035 - I believe that breathe unesco - spring out Watergate tall. + 217 + 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:55,400 + separate that and my wife + doesn't want to do that. - 586 - 00:25:54,035 --> 00:25:55,864 - Once you, when this is over, + 218 + 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,060 + And then I break the + contract. I didn't work. - 587 - 00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:56,839 - you're going to run away and + 219 + 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,580 + So they sent me and my wife + to know cam in Indonesia, - 588 - 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:58,250 - forget where you've - been all the time. + 220 + 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:06,870 + the color Golan cam. - 589 - 00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:03,260 - I want all of you to come - up and say goodbye to me, + 221 + 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:15,125 + In I think the end of the + summer of 1983 along river. - 590 - 00:26:03,260 --> 00:26:08,330 - farewell for the summer - in a courteous way. + 222 + 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:21,440 + I stay there six months + until June 1984. - 591 - 00:26:08,330 --> 00:26:10,445 - And they did them. But - he wanted to thing + 223 + 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,120 + During statesman, I work + with the United Nation. - 592 - 00:26:10,445 --> 00:26:12,980 - done right? And so on. + 224 + 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,585 + Kierkegaard, UNHCR. - 593 - 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:15,439 - And all the students struggling + 225 + 00:14:29,585 --> 00:14:33,305 + What kind of work were + you doing for the UNHCR? - 594 - 00:26:15,439 --> 00:26:17,479 - for once there two - or three of them, + 226 + 00:14:33,305 --> 00:14:36,245 + They asked me to help - 595 - 00:26:17,479 --> 00:26:19,129 - and that they shouldn't - have done it, + 227 + 00:14:36,245 --> 00:14:40,460 + prepare check that + less of the employee - 596 - 00:26:19,129 --> 00:26:20,750 - but they kind of - start little trouble. + 228 + 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:43,940 + working there and then they paid - 597 - 00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:23,104 - And you went through - that and you said today, + 229 + 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:45,590 + as a salary every week - 598 - 00:26:23,104 --> 00:26:26,150 - and I know what it is to - have students an uprising. + 230 + 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:48,450 + to the employee that + within the camp. - 599 - 00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:27,350 - Platinum, my yp, she's + 231 + 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,030 + And then Okay. - 600 - 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:28,430 - I don't know. I - don't happen to me. + 232 + 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,970 + So then in 1984 you came + to the United States. - 601 - 00:26:28,430 --> 00:26:29,450 - I could understood it. + 233 + 00:14:55,970 --> 00:15:00,005 + Yeah, I love Golan + cam to United State, - 602 - 00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:31,250 - Well, those little - things can happen. + 234 + 00:15:00,005 --> 00:15:03,259 + but stay a one week in Singapore. - 603 - 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:33,529 - Uc Irvine might have + 235 + 00:15:03,259 --> 00:15:06,380 + Ten that the color processing, - 604 - 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:36,379 - might have triggered - that. You recall + 236 + 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:09,800 + waiting for the flight to come. - 605 - 00:26:36,379 --> 00:26:38,540 - Maybe he wished he would. + 237 + 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,890 + Okay. And while you were in - 606 - 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:40,730 - It was always strongest theology. + 238 + 00:15:12,890 --> 00:15:15,260 + Indonesia and in + Singapore, you were also, - 607 - 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:43,130 - Now, sprite, I know about - strong, I think he's wonderful. + 239 + 00:15:15,260 --> 00:15:17,480 + they were telling + you or teaching you - 608 - 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:44,900 - Have you ever heard of - strong salvage? A big book. + 240 + 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,805 + about the United States and + how things operate here, - 609 - 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:46,985 - That lecture contains everything. + 241 + 00:15:22,805 --> 00:15:25,010 + is that when you have a class - 610 - 00:26:46,985 --> 00:26:50,015 - And that Lindbergh, + 242 + 00:15:25,010 --> 00:15:27,710 + teaching three months for people, - 611 - 00:26:50,015 --> 00:26:52,985 - you remember that he was - kind of a insurgent. + 243 + 00:15:27,710 --> 00:15:31,055 + but I don't have a chance to + learn all of that because - 612 - 00:26:52,985 --> 00:26:56,645 - He was one of those boys - club it with a little bit + 244 + 00:15:31,055 --> 00:15:34,280 + they say that I can speak + English, I can understand. - 613 - 00:26:56,645 --> 00:27:00,784 - with Dr. Lander whose - mission secretary, + 245 + 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,240 + So they asked me to + work to help them. - 614 - 00:27:00,784 --> 00:27:02,390 - Pastor Chuck been happening. + 246 + 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,945 + But eventually I got a + job with the UN ACR. - 615 - 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:04,369 - Elana, you should tell - us that the coffee table + 247 + 00:15:41,945 --> 00:15:47,195 + So they kind of go to the + class on a one hour a day. - 616 - 00:27:04,369 --> 00:27:06,965 - that NOT who was right. + 248 + 00:15:47,195 --> 00:15:50,190 + And beside that, I + just go to work. - 617 - 00:27:06,965 --> 00:27:11,375 - There was a final examination - and logarithm said to you, + 249 + 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:53,180 + Okay. Did you fly directly to - 618 - 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:12,859 - Dr. Laura, and say, do - you have to you have + 250 + 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,190 + Minnesota when you + left Singapore? - 619 - 00:27:12,859 --> 00:27:16,775 - to take it over again, - didn't goodness. + 251 + 00:15:55,190 --> 00:16:01,190 + Yes. Okay. And did you + come to the twin cities - 620 - 00:27:16,775 --> 00:27:18,664 - And our Landry, he was kind of it + 252 + 00:16:01,190 --> 00:16:04,130 + or Rochester or where did that I - 621 - 00:27:18,664 --> 00:27:21,575 - senator. He said lot-to-lot grid. + 253 + 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:08,375 + can then seti because my + mother-in-law came here first. - 622 - 00:27:21,575 --> 00:27:24,635 - You can either flip - me or not plugged me. + 254 + 00:16:08,375 --> 00:16:15,530 + Okay. And so did you move + in with your mother-in-law? - 623 - 00:27:24,635 --> 00:27:26,465 - I won't take it over again. + 255 + 00:16:15,530 --> 00:16:20,780 + Yeah. Okay. So what once + you relocated here, - 624 - 00:27:26,465 --> 00:27:28,205 - Wetland mended wonderfully. + 256 + 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:23,120 + what what did what + were you doing? - 625 - 00:27:28,205 --> 00:27:28,730 - Committee. + 257 + 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,590 + Were you taking classes or did - 626 - 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:30,470 - He knew he's a good man - to go out on the field. + 258 + 00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:27,750 + they have you start working? - 627 - 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:32,630 - He's a good preacher, - bright color. + 259 + 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:30,800 + The lowdown? - 628 - 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:34,460 - But I said there's + 260 + 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,245 + So say this is my sponsor. - 629 - 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,080 - a young children are going + 261 + 00:16:33,245 --> 00:16:37,085 + And when I came, - 630 - 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760 - to end up at that coffee table. + 262 + 00:16:37,085 --> 00:16:42,560 + he has asked me to what job, - 631 - 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,710 - It had reached home and I + 263 + 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,310 + part time job that I want + to do, something like that. + + 264 + 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:52,760 + And they as I want + to go to school, - 632 - 00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:43,130 - thought you were inquiry - a courteous to to to him. + 265 + 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,855 + but I have no money, nothing. - 633 - 00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:45,140 - He wanted you to get that better + 266 + 00:16:56,855 --> 00:16:59,840 + My sponsor, one meter, - 634 - 00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:48,800 - and you wouldn't submit - to His direction. + 267 + 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,240 + you will find a job. - 635 - 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,770 - He was your supervisor and said, + 268 + 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,650 + Because they said I + can able to work. - 636 - 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:54,035 - well now kinda jump. + 269 + 00:17:07,810 --> 00:17:11,690 + And about three weeks + after I sell in - 637 - 00:27:54,035 --> 00:27:55,910 - You looked at your - watch and we stop here. + 270 + 00:17:11,690 --> 00:17:14,900 + Minnesota and I got a job - 638 - 00:27:55,910 --> 00:27:58,070 - We got the students - back in those days + 271 + 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:16,580 + because Sponsor work with - 639 - 00:27:58,070 --> 00:28:00,784 - were all Greek operative rehab + 272 + 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:18,380 + the latrines social + service and got - 640 - 00:28:00,784 --> 00:28:04,339 - recalcitrant. That means - that when we start, + 273 + 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:23,255 + a part-time job there + for about two months. - 641 - 00:28:04,339 --> 00:28:06,019 - we're still kinda jumping - out of the other sites + 274 + 00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:27,365 + As the clerk, there's + help filing paper - 642 - 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:08,015 - are like how do the - Academy started? + 275 + 00:17:27,365 --> 00:17:33,035 + or keep track document for + the refugee that came. - 643 - 00:28:08,015 --> 00:28:10,565 - His brother gave me some - highlights to talk about. + 276 + 00:17:33,035 --> 00:17:36,065 + And after that. - 644 - 00:28:10,565 --> 00:28:14,465 - I'm shooting and I'm doing well. + 277 + 00:17:36,065 --> 00:17:40,130 + The job was run now has nothing + to do and they get laid - 645 - 00:28:14,465 --> 00:28:17,510 - It was a 103 Brother. + 278 + 00:17:40,130 --> 00:17:45,230 + off or stay home about one way. - 646 - 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:19,595 - Dave said what, what - started as Seminary? + 279 + 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,350 + And then the community, - 647 - 00:28:19,595 --> 00:28:21,950 - When I started college, - I started the academies. + 280 + 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:52,010 + Cambodian community in Twin City, - 648 - 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,540 - Huh? That's fine. + 281 + 00:17:52,010 --> 00:17:55,925 + they need some body + that able to were. - 649 - 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:26,270 - And it was a January - Conference in Trump's broke. + 282 + 00:17:55,925 --> 00:18:00,655 + And the, - 650 - 00:28:26,270 --> 00:28:28,130 - We had some fine - churches down there. + 283 + 00:18:00,655 --> 00:18:02,770 + I know one of my teachers as - 651 - 00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:31,160 - They were faithful country - churches, some of them. + 284 + 00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:05,680 + the board member, + the urbanization. - 652 - 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,170 - And they put to me, + 285 + 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,180 + And the he asked me + to go to work there. - 653 - 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:34,399 - and they kind of cringe to + 286 + 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:12,070 + And they offer me - 654 - 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:39,125 - give the two main aggressors - we'll call Sunday afternoon. + 287 + 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:18,110 + a job full-time job at + the director of a MA. - 655 - 00:28:39,125 --> 00:28:42,964 - One was Dr. Frank Peterson, + 288 + 00:18:18,750 --> 00:18:24,715 + So I started that job + from September 84 - 656 - 00:28:42,964 --> 00:28:45,379 - wonderful man. And the other one + 289 + 00:18:24,715 --> 00:18:31,225 + until October edify occur + because of a lot of pressure. - 657 - 00:28:45,379 --> 00:28:47,360 - was Professor Eric Dr. Erickson, + 290 + 00:18:31,225 --> 00:18:33,880 + And the job is so + hard for me to do - 658 - 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,650 - Dale, or the seminary. + 291 + 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,390 + it because I'm new + in this country. - 659 - 00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:52,280 - They didn't tell them what - to say. As I understand it. + 292 + 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:39,550 + I didn't know how to read fun. - 660 - 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,249 - They just put them on - for the message and + 293 + 00:18:39,550 --> 00:18:41,870 + I didn't know how to looking - 661 - 00:28:55,249 --> 00:28:57,230 - got seem to lead so that + 294 + 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:45,155 + for fun to support the program. - 662 - 00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:59,600 - both of them took the same theme, + 295 + 00:18:45,155 --> 00:18:48,365 + Finally, I decide to quit. - 663 - 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,629 - that we need an - educational institution + 296 + 00:18:48,365 --> 00:18:53,330 + Before I quit, I'm lucky + that I got another job. - 664 - 00:29:02,629 --> 00:29:05,569 - in our conference to - receive our young people, + 297 + 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:54,770 + So the Ramsey County - 665 - 00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:07,580 - especially those who call into + 298 + 00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:56,780 + because I'm working + with them before. - 666 - 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:09,980 - Christian service, - where they can get + 299 + 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:59,960 + So they they know + only that asked me - 667 - 00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:11,269 - not only seminary training, + 300 + 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,090 + too because I said I - 668 - 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:13,715 - which we have at - professional coursing them. + 301 + 00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:04,565 + don't want to end up + placing it anymore. - 669 - 00:29:13,715 --> 00:29:16,285 - But, but wouldn't - it have been done? + 302 + 00:19:04,565 --> 00:19:07,865 + And then they say + you can apply job in - 670 - 00:29:16,285 --> 00:29:18,455 - They call it the training - high school and college. + 303 + 00:19:07,865 --> 00:19:09,680 + Ramsey County and then I apply - 671 - 00:29:18,455 --> 00:29:20,060 - And now the Lutherans have + 304 + 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,840 + I got that job and + but I'm here now. - 672 - 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:21,440 - that another - denomination. I haven't. + 305 + 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,060 + Ok. And you're with + Ramsey County now? - 673 - 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,580 - And we are the poorest of all. + 306 + 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,805 + Yes. What is the what + kind of a job isn't - 674 - 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,535 - We're a most efficient, - inefficient. + 307 + 00:19:16,805 --> 00:19:19,820 + the first job that I got as - 675 - 00:29:25,535 --> 00:29:28,160 - And it shows that just went + 308 + 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:23,615 + an interpreter to help + people in Ramsey County. - 676 - 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,399 - through which God led both - of them to just a GUI, + 309 + 00:19:23,615 --> 00:19:27,425 + That about three years later, - 677 - 00:29:31,399 --> 00:29:35,390 - one with the other in - that theme and show. + 310 + 00:19:27,425 --> 00:19:30,530 + the county of tests - 678 - 00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:37,099 - They took it up and + 311 + 00:19:30,530 --> 00:19:33,980 + that I can take a test to + become a financial look. - 679 - 00:29:37,099 --> 00:29:43,250 - they see they wait until - the next year, 1993. + 312 + 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:38,690 + And then I pass at + that time in 1989. - 680 - 00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:44,779 - And my brother and I was at + 313 + 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:40,880 + So I have become a + financial it then - 681 - 00:29:44,779 --> 00:29:46,910 - the conference in - 1904 in Kansas City, + 314 + 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,725 + Ramsey County, OK. Now, - 682 - 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:49,055 - Missouri, Mr. Pq and + 315 + 00:19:42,725 --> 00:19:47,045 + are you working with solely + with Cambodians and other - 683 - 00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:51,994 - we when young people - are working on day two + 316 + 00:19:47,045 --> 00:19:49,880 + Asians or are you working with - 684 - 00:29:51,994 --> 00:29:55,069 - And so the next year, 194, + 317 + 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,045 + a wide variety of + groups of my job now? - 685 - 00:29:55,069 --> 00:29:57,740 - they appointed a committee - to go ahead with + 318 + 00:19:53,045 --> 00:19:57,200 + Yep. No, I'm working but + the American client. - 686 - 00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:59,240 - that and they just heard + 319 + 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,090 + I'm not every fuji, - 687 - 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,420 - the address their instructor + 320 + 00:19:59,090 --> 00:20:00,350 + so no work at all. - 688 - 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:01,865 - broker, then they acted on it. + 321 + 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:07,820 + Okay. No. I preferred that + American because I know - 689 - 00:30:01,865 --> 00:30:04,625 - They reportedly would - acknowledge next year, + 322 + 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:12,545 + too many people in + the community and - 690 - 00:30:04,625 --> 00:30:06,110 - and they appointed a committee. + 323 + 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,690 + I don't want to + involve that because - 691 - 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:11,915 - Dr. Robert Earl was on it and - some of the high efficient, + 324 + 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:17,975 + of the confidential Sure. - 692 - 00:30:11,915 --> 00:30:14,599 - prominent laymen, as well - as some of the pasture, + 325 + 00:20:17,975 --> 00:20:21,065 + And the problem with + communication or whatever. - 693 - 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,865 - that they should - do something about + 326 + 00:20:21,065 --> 00:20:22,940 + So I write a little bit. - 694 - 00:30:16,865 --> 00:30:20,960 - or inaugurating an academy, + 327 + 00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:25,775 + When they put me in + the job, they asked, - 695 - 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,735 - creating an academy where - young people could come. + 328 + 00:20:25,775 --> 00:20:27,950 + I didn't have a chance + to choose that, - 696 - 00:30:23,735 --> 00:30:26,060 - Now, hundreds, a deed - for the academy. + 329 + 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:29,960 + but they couldn't live up + at their mark on clients, - 697 - 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:27,890 - Well, there were several needs. + 330 + 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,010 + so I decided to stay. - 698 - 00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:31,579 - A good many of + 331 + 00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:32,180 + I didn't bow to let - 699 - 00:30:31,579 --> 00:30:32,749 - our churches where in the country + 332 + 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:41,930 + each unit would or - 700 - 00:30:32,749 --> 00:30:34,370 - and didn't have a - high school there. + 333 + 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,120 + are there things that + that concern you - 701 - 00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:35,989 - You'd have to go - to town anyway in + 334 + 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,365 + or or problems that that you are. - 702 - 00:30:35,989 --> 00:30:37,775 - board to go to high school + 335 + 00:20:48,365 --> 00:20:51,350 + Face having been in + the United States, - 703 - 00:30:37,775 --> 00:30:40,729 - and show it be + 336 + 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,480 + particularly Minnesota + for the past few years. - 704 - 00:30:40,729 --> 00:30:41,899 - just the waveform to go to + 337 + 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 + Are there are there are + issues that that concern - 705 - 00:30:41,899 --> 00:30:43,774 - St. Paul and go to the academy, + 338 + 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,380 + you are or you do think - 706 - 00:30:43,774 --> 00:30:45,590 - you'd have to go home anyway. + 339 + 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:59,120 + about it a fair + amount in terms of, - 707 - 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:47,014 - And then another thing, + 340 + 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,565 + of your transition into - 708 - 00:30:47,014 --> 00:30:48,679 - they would have that - Christian Fellowship + 341 + 00:21:01,565 --> 00:21:03,290 + US society and also - 709 - 00:30:48,679 --> 00:30:50,615 - and a kind of Christian training. + 342 + 00:21:03,290 --> 00:21:05,630 + perhaps fellow Cambodians + sort of moved here. - 710 - 00:30:50,615 --> 00:30:52,819 - And basically for those who + 343 + 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:08,630 + Are there any kinds of + things that trouble you? - 711 - 00:30:52,819 --> 00:30:55,700 - felt the goddess called him - into Christian service. + 344 + 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:13,640 + My concern is for + Cambodian people, - 712 - 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,010 - And so that thing went - through phi1 into + 345 + 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,375 + especially the family without - 713 - 00:30:58,010 --> 00:31:01,985 - Payne Avenue Church - in Kansas City. + 346 + 00:21:17,375 --> 00:21:21,350 + a single family, single pattern. - 714 - 00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:05,075 - In Kansas City, that was - they appointed a committee. + 347 + 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:27,200 + And also that moat + pendant and household. - 715 - 00:31:05,075 --> 00:31:07,159 - That committee, I - think Robert Urbis, + 348 + 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:34,774 + Most of Cambodian that came + to United State during ARE. - 716 - 00:31:07,159 --> 00:31:08,705 - chairman. I'm not sure. + 349 + 00:21:34,774 --> 00:21:38,460 + So now most of them, - 717 - 00:31:08,705 --> 00:31:10,910 - And I'm sure Dr. - Ekstrom was on it. + 350 + 00:21:38,650 --> 00:21:47,465 + they don't have a lot our + education background, - 718 - 00:31:10,910 --> 00:31:13,565 - Pastured eggs from those - days you'd want to migrate. + 351 + 00:21:47,465 --> 00:21:50,105 + and most of them farmer - 719 - 00:31:13,565 --> 00:31:17,119 - Pastures are kept - him at 12pm. And + 352 + 00:21:50,105 --> 00:21:54,230 + or a citizen that + live in the city, - 720 - 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760 - they appointed a - committee and that + 353 + 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:57,920 + but they did not have + a good background - 721 - 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,725 - committee acted ones that year, + 354 + 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:05,300 + about the skill that + fit in this society. - 722 - 00:31:21,725 --> 00:31:25,040 - 1905 to started Oh, yes. + 355 + 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,980 + And they have a lot of + problem to adjusted. - 723 - 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,360 - The resolution. Read it. + 356 + 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,905 + But for myself that I can speak, - 724 - 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,234 - They should call Dr. chord + 357 + 00:22:12,905 --> 00:22:16,100 + I cannot just faster than them. - 725 - 00:31:28,234 --> 00:31:30,785 - to be first-principle - to the academy. + 358 + 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:21,080 + And the people that they know + nothing about the language, - 726 - 00:31:30,785 --> 00:31:32,990 - I haven't mentioned - Dr. guard before, + 359 + 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,610 + they tend to be really + hard to adjust them. - 727 - 00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:35,449 - but he was a wonderful - scholar and he was a + 360 + 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:28,970 + And the family that - 728 - 00:31:35,449 --> 00:31:38,480 - wonderful Christian and his - life with beautiful doctor. + 361 + 00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:35,030 + some people that cannot read + or write their own language, - 729 - 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,329 - I understand that dr. - Gordy's just like a pawn, + 362 + 00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:39,080 + as it's rarely frosted + them for them to learn - 730 - 00:31:41,329 --> 00:31:43,430 - such a beautiful personality. + 363 + 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,210 + the other Langley because - 731 - 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:45,350 - What Dr. Gore came from Sweden to + 364 + 00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:43,535 + they all know they don't + know how to read and write. - 732 - 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:47,629 - move to New York to Brooklyn. + 365 + 00:22:43,535 --> 00:22:45,620 + They know how to + speed communication, - 733 - 00:31:47,629 --> 00:31:49,699 - >> Professor hit Dean and - we'd later profession + 366 + 00:22:45,620 --> 00:22:47,390 + but for reading and writing, - 734 - 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,830 - the Seminary. He - wished pasture there. + 367 + 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:50,990 + it's really hard and + it made them more - 735 - 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:55,190 - They had great, reliable - Dr. Gore was defined clean. + 368 + 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:55,580 + harder than anybody + that can speak, read, - 736 - 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:57,710 - Yen man. I don't know what - happened to his father. + 369 + 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,860 + and write their + own name and says, - 737 - 00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:59,569 - Never heard of him, - but but I guess she + 370 + 00:22:57,860 --> 00:22:59,330 + my concern is that - 738 - 00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:01,865 - had died early. Get - a wonderful mother. + 371 + 00:22:59,330 --> 00:23:03,290 + those people are really + hard to adjust to this, + + 372 + 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:08,540 + this society and that the state. - 739 - 00:32:01,865 --> 00:32:05,164 - And he was wonderfully converted + 373 + 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:11,030 + They gobble men and this - 740 - 00:32:05,164 --> 00:32:10,235 - and he fed lead into Christian - to Christian ministry. + 374 + 00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:14,430 + they should understand + and it should help them. - 741 - 00:32:10,235 --> 00:32:13,380 - He was small enough stature, + 375 + 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,550 + Do you think, what do you + think would be the best, - 742 - 00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:18,334 - very beautiful, rich hair, + 376 + 00:23:19,550 --> 00:23:22,100 + best approach to that education? - 743 - 00:32:18,334 --> 00:32:20,750 - black hair, and everything + 377 + 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:27,080 + Or what do you - 744 - 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:22,400 - about him is Dr. - Lander's headers. + 378 + 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,730 + think would work in terms - 745 - 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,629 - There's like a poem, + 379 + 00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:31,625 + of perhaps helping + them adjust better? - 746 - 00:32:23,629 --> 00:32:28,050 - perfect gentleman in every - way and a brilliant scholar. + 380 + 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:34,294 + They need a lot of support. - 747 - 00:32:31,689 --> 00:32:34,164 - >> I want to say something - back here again if I + 381 + 00:23:34,294 --> 00:23:38,284 + Especially the families support, - 748 - 00:32:34,164 --> 00:32:36,290 - get back to well, + 382 + 00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:42,830 + because they used to live in - 749 - 00:32:36,290 --> 00:32:38,330 - they in the resolution, + 383 + 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:45,740 + the the period of time - 750 - 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:41,675 - they said codec to guard - to be the first-principle. + 384 + 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:49,835 + that have a lot of + crisis that need to Y. - 751 - 00:32:41,675 --> 00:32:43,670 - Alright? Neither - were on bare ground. + 385 + 00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:53,870 + And also that they + have a horrible time. - 752 - 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:45,635 - Where going to meet what - I'm going to started. + 386 + 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:57,800 + That they never, they + cannot forget about that. - 753 - 00:32:45,635 --> 00:32:47,240 - What else are they going to do? + 387 + 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 + Because of the the life - 754 - 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,260 - Or they had some good men. + 388 + 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,025 + that they have gone through + during the tomorrows, - 755 - 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:50,929 - And that committee - anyway they began to + 389 + 00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:11,360 + make them some people + that almost lost memory. - 756 - 00:32:50,929 --> 00:32:55,250 - announce at the academy - would start then follow 195, + 390 + 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:17,420 + They become so much The Press. - 757 - 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,920 - fall of 195 and the helium Church + 391 + 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:20,900 + But they don't know + how to speak out. - 758 - 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,060 - Minneapolis from my brother had + 392 + 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:24,755 + They don't know how + to tell the ADA and - 759 - 00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:00,560 - been for more than 50 years, + 393 + 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:30,155 + our culture people nothing + one to share their problem, - 760 - 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,539 - essentially could precipitate - it and still a leader + 394 + 00:24:30,155 --> 00:24:35,930 + to be either unless they trust + Azariah, close relative. - 761 - 00:33:02,539 --> 00:33:05,449 - there in his pad with, - well, anyway, they got, + 395 + 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:39,695 + If you are working, + tried to help them. - 762 - 00:33:05,449 --> 00:33:09,004 - they got permission to have - this Google in church, + 396 + 00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:40,925 + If they don't know you, - 763 - 00:33:09,004 --> 00:33:11,750 - in Sunday School room, - some Bayesians, so on + 397 + 00:24:40,925 --> 00:24:42,920 + they don't want to + share any idea or - 764 - 00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:13,189 - And of course, they started with + 398 + 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,095 + they don't want to share + any problem with you. - 765 - 00:33:13,189 --> 00:33:15,590 - two students like the other did, + 399 + 00:24:45,095 --> 00:24:47,015 + So you cannot help them. - 766 - 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:17,870 - because the other day and anyway, + 400 + 00:24:47,015 --> 00:24:49,820 + But if they understand + the culture, - 767 - 00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:19,955 - the first graduation, I - had just two Student. + 401 + 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:51,410 + they understand a problem, - 768 - 00:33:19,955 --> 00:33:22,460 - One went to the ministry + 402 + 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:53,240 + trying to help them. - 769 - 00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:24,005 - and the other went - back to farming. + 403 + 00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,750 + Sometime people offer the + problem so we can help them. - 770 - 00:33:24,005 --> 00:33:25,880 - And I've always thought - of those two as + 404 + 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,900 + And the other thing - 771 - 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,289 - representing the kinda work + 405 + 00:25:06,490 --> 00:25:11,945 + right now is that the + kid growing up here, - 772 - 00:33:27,289 --> 00:33:28,940 - that this group doing right here. + 406 + 00:25:11,945 --> 00:25:15,815 + they'd learn the lay at + faster than the parent. - 773 - 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,114 - Now some are going - to be layman here, + 407 + 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:20,060 + And then to have a + different point of view, - 774 - 00:33:31,114 --> 00:33:32,885 - you're going to be - Christian layman. + 408 + 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,480 + some care did grow up in + the cam when he came here. - 775 - 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:35,149 - Some of you who are - students here and some are + 409 + 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,840 + They don't know about the + Cambodia culture at all. - 776 - 00:33:35,149 --> 00:33:37,250 - going at the ministry - and the college, + 410 + 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,295 + And then the chi + Laika have a problem - 777 - 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,784 - especially ministers - to both kind we need, + 411 + 00:25:31,295 --> 00:25:36,770 + between parents and children + and between because the kid, - 778 - 00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:41,285 - we need lame and knowledge more + 412 + 00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:38,990 + when they live in home, - 779 - 00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:42,530 - Christian than we administer. + 413 + 00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:40,490 + depend on one num to be - 780 - 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:45,515 - Sometimes we think, well - anyway, the first graduate, + 414 + 00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:44,735 + Cambodian to discipline them + the way that they work. - 781 - 00:33:45,515 --> 00:33:47,239 - but they were there - three years before they + 415 + 00:25:44,735 --> 00:25:46,160 + Well when they go to school, - 782 - 00:33:47,239 --> 00:33:51,169 - graduate and they fused to, + 416 + 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,115 + they have another law + that they must follow. - 783 - 00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:52,760 - well, they said We need a whole, + 417 + 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,220 + There must obey + that, this society. - 784 - 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,230 - we need a home of our own. + 418 + 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:54,515 + And then when they go back + to school, Chi legged, - 785 - 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:56,345 - Shall we do? Where shall we go? + 419 + 00:25:54,515 --> 00:25:58,235 + two different society for + them that it's hard to her. - 786 - 00:33:56,345 --> 00:33:58,879 - Rather to men and - Payne Avenue Church, + 420 + 00:25:58,235 --> 00:25:59,990 + So it essay, we need to have - 787 - 00:33:58,879 --> 00:34:00,800 - Saint Paul one gave + 421 + 00:25:59,990 --> 00:26:02,900 + some people that understand + a problem tried to - 788 - 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,529 - $5 thousand to start + 422 + 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:07,040 + help him to adjusted by + offering my education - 789 - 00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:06,350 - the building of an - academy. It cost eight. + 423 + 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,465 + to them or some kind acre + or training to them, - 790 - 00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:09,590 - Finally, I guess the - other one was a builder. + 424 + 00:26:11,465 --> 00:26:15,140 + trying to know made them + and wild with the society, - 791 - 00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:12,095 - He put it up he was - contracted to put it up. + 425 + 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,720 + become a productive citizen. - 792 - 00:34:12,095 --> 00:34:13,610 - Public beach company too. + 426 + 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,870 + How do you feel that, - 793 - 00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:15,980 - And so that's on - character and St. Anthony + 427 + 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:25,420 + that you've worked on a lot of - 794 - 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:18,859 - part Carter Avenue - and comb avenue, + 428 + 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:30,160 + the in terms of what you + went through in Cambodia, - 795 - 00:34:18,859 --> 00:34:20,840 - that building is still there + 429 + 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,710 + Do you feel that you've + had opportunities to, - 796 - 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,860 - and it was a wonderful time - when they moved into that + 430 + 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:34,480 + to address that the, - 797 - 00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:26,884 - and shed dished out - when building I want to + 431 + 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,465 + the experience and work + through all of that yourself. - 798 - 00:34:26,884 --> 00:34:29,630 - describe that building - upstairs where + 432 + 00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:39,925 + You feel like you. I think so. - 799 - 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:32,659 - 313 small rooms and + 433 + 00:26:39,925 --> 00:26:45,610 + Because when you go to you + can see a lot of thing. - 800 - 00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:36,020 - then a washroom at the - end, bathroom or so on. + 434 + 00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:49,495 + Most of I feel that I - 801 - 00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:40,144 - And those rooms in each one - of those rooms to student, + 435 + 00:26:49,495 --> 00:26:52,840 + know a lot of thing + in this country, - 802 - 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:41,750 - two boys would stay. + 436 + 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,480 + mod and I knew in my hand. - 803 - 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:45,110 - And they used to say that - they couldn't couldn't chain. + 437 + 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,735 + And tell me late + the government or - 804 - 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,030 - They had to go outside - to change their minds. + 438 + 00:26:58,735 --> 00:27:04,325 + the system how to + process in this society. - 805 - 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:49,820 - You heard so small, + 439 + 00:27:04,325 --> 00:27:06,710 + Because when I was in Cambodia, - 806 - 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:51,215 - but there's a bit there and + 440 + 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,990 + I didn't know about the Congress. - 807 - 00:34:51,215 --> 00:34:53,420 - maybe a couple little - desk or something. + 441 + 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:11,285 + How many Congress + in Cambodia Hub, - 808 - 00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:57,650 - And that little building - was very efficient. + 442 + 00:27:11,285 --> 00:27:12,940 + how the legislature work, - 809 - 00:34:57,650 --> 00:35:00,290 - Bethel Academy became famous - all around the neighborhood. + 443 + 00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:14,540 + something like that because in - 810 - 00:35:00,290 --> 00:35:02,989 - Their student who refined to and + 444 + 00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:16,805 + school they never + teach you to learn. - 811 - 00:35:02,989 --> 00:35:05,795 - then on the first floor over - three recitation rooms. + 445 + 00:27:16,805 --> 00:27:22,295 + They just gave you all these + samurai general literature, - 812 - 00:35:05,795 --> 00:35:07,909 - And then they're reading - room and then the kind of + 446 + 00:27:22,295 --> 00:27:25,805 + little bit math, a little + bit, some like that. - 813 - 00:35:07,909 --> 00:35:10,730 - private office for the - for the principal. + 447 + 00:27:25,805 --> 00:27:30,140 + Unless you get into + the university, - 814 - 00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:18,240 - And then the basement was a - kitchen and a dining room and + 448 + 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:35,630 + you trying to be a doctor + or a professor or whatever. - 815 - 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,030 - washroom and what else? + 449 + 00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:36,740 + And then you can know - 816 - 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:27,499 - Basement. They had a - steward, the body club, + 450 + 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:39,320 + only the brand that + you go and needs. - 817 - 00:35:27,499 --> 00:35:29,449 - and they would go up - the country around, + 451 + 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,985 + No general knowledge + like this society. - 818 - 00:35:29,449 --> 00:35:31,070 - I Santa Cambridge around and get + 452 + 00:27:43,985 --> 00:27:49,400 + So is people like myself + that want to learn more, - 819 - 00:35:31,070 --> 00:35:33,590 - things for nothing - from the machine up. + 453 + 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,734 + want to have a better + understanding. - 820 - 00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,885 - Things that are potatoes - and all of that. + 454 + 00:27:53,734 --> 00:27:56,990 + English can communicate + with the people here. - 821 - 00:35:35,885 --> 00:35:37,910 - And I remember one year + 455 + 00:27:56,990 --> 00:28:00,050 + So we have a better chance to - 822 - 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:40,580 - and they run the - boarding time themself. + 456 + 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:03,230 + adjust to live in this society. - 823 - 00:35:40,580 --> 00:35:46,160 - I remember one year they - meals average $0.11 a meal. + 457 + 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:07,730 + So people that I think the + problem is the communication. - 824 - 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,230 - There's the good old - days, $0.11 a meal. + 458 + 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:09,680 + If the people can + learn the language - 825 - 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:49,490 - And they've got some for nothing. + 459 + 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,290 + faster so they can adjust + whatever they won. - 826 - 00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:55,295 - And then they they - paid $10 a month. + 460 + 00:28:14,350 --> 00:28:19,230 + Okay. Stu law. 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I English. + 13 + 00:01:06,215 --> 00:01:08,135 + And you go to sleep. - 839 - 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:34,760 - Nice College couple. - Washington University. + 14 + 00:01:08,135 --> 00:01:12,055 + Alvin dream about + during the time. - 840 - 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,109 - Kathy I with + 15 + 00:01:12,055 --> 00:01:16,960 + Sometime I saw blade to Meroe, - 841 - 00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:38,464 - University of Minnesota a - great deal of the time. + 16 + 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,020 + are the people with + the leader to come - 842 - 00:36:38,464 --> 00:36:40,205 - >> And then elsewhere too. + 17 + 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:23,785 + out or the shoulder that + trying to catch me, - 843 - 00:36:40,205 --> 00:36:42,680 - Well, anyway, the - students repeatedly, + 18 + 00:01:23,785 --> 00:01:25,750 + wanted to kill me something. - 844 - 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,269 - there were 18 students - than they were + 19 + 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:31,570 + And after terrible + nightmare light - 845 - 00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:47,120 - 22 and then there - were 39. 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So out of my mind, - 847 - 00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:55,280 - my brother guard - resigned in 1914. + 22 + 00:01:38,905 --> 00:01:46,405 + you're thinking I start to + trying to suppress them down, - 848 - 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,229 - He was there from + 23 + 00:01:46,405 --> 00:01:48,520 + tried to forget about that. - 849 - 00:36:57,229 --> 00:37:00,170 - 195 to nine that's nine years, - if that if that's right. + 24 + 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,495 + Trying to think about the + future instead of the path. - 850 - 00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:02,240 - But you see, he had - prepared for the ministry. + 25 + 00:01:52,495 --> 00:01:56,870 + And I don't want to Aldo dream. - 851 - 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,715 - He had studied gotta - ductus Luther Seminary. + 26 + 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:59,785 + Come back again in my mind. - 852 - 00:37:04,715 --> 00:37:07,175 - And he studied another colleague, - distinguished scholar. + 27 + 00:01:59,785 --> 00:02:02,829 + This is just trying to think + everything in the future. - 853 - 00:37:07,175 --> 00:37:08,870 - He was brilliant and + 28 + 00:02:02,829 --> 00:02:04,690 + What most of the + time when they have - 854 - 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:10,700 - he felt that he trained - for the pasture it + 29 + 00:02:04,690 --> 00:02:07,930 + that dream late that + icon sleep RNA. - 855 - 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,079 - and and not to be pens but + 30 + 00:02:07,930 --> 00:02:14,560 + And trying to take like a + medicine to may get headache, - 856 - 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,990 - an academy though he - didn't paperwork there. + 31 + 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,930 + take medicine so they can sleep. - 857 - 00:37:14,990 --> 00:37:17,570 - Nobody was there. 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That's that's - 878 - 00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:11,900 - He just couldn't get over - their opposition to a stain. + 53 + 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,740 + all of the questions I + have for now. 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He loved + 2 + 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,470 + come with me through + these gates to - 880 - 00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:15,260 - administrate and they loved him. + 3 + 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:16,780 + a beautiful all new canvas, - 881 - 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,549 - We came to the chip Greg, + 4 + 00:00:16,780 --> 00:00:18,760 + indeed a proper setting for - 882 - 00:38:16,549 --> 00:38:19,700 - he was and one woman who - was pasture and weird + 5 + 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,080 + the Christian liberal arts - 883 - 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,910 - and I was there and - one woman said to me, + 6 + 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,090 + and conservative + theological education. - 884 - 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:24,635 - oh, you should have. - You should have been. + 7 + 00:00:23,730 --> 00:00:27,145 + Looking at our campus + from the Southeast, + + 8 + 00:00:27,145 --> 00:00:30,460 + we see the college and seminary + located in the beautiful, - 885 - 00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:27,020 - In those days, it was - Dr. gourd pastor. + 9 + 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:33,340 + rolling wooded hills + beside lake Valentine. - 886 - 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:28,610 - If it's just a wonderful she kept + 10 + 00:00:33,340 --> 00:00:37,750 + This is just five miles + north of our old campus. - 887 - 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,320 - saying just so wonderful person, + 11 + 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:42,015 + Here the emphasis is on + the seminary complex - 888 - 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,910 - wonderfully, she could say + 12 + 00:00:42,015 --> 00:00:46,320 + campus, as it appears + from the west. - 889 - 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:35,015 - the word so wonderful - when gardeners here. + 13 + 00:00:46,450 --> 00:00:48,740 + This area will someday be - 890 - 00:38:35,015 --> 00:38:37,520 - When I was called away - from that to be principal, + 14 + 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:52,200 + occupied by the + administration building. - 891 - 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,694 - to be dean of the seminary that + 15 + 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,280 + Bethel probably boasts one of - 892 - 00:38:39,694 --> 00:38:42,215 - others have to we're going - to be got going that way. + 16 + 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,270 + the most beautiful campus + settings in the country. - 893 - 00:38:42,215 --> 00:38:44,735 - But to, Well then, + 17 + 00:00:59,270 --> 00:01:02,000 + Each of the college + buildings is connected with - 894 - 00:38:44,735 --> 00:38:48,350 - now then the two schools united. + 18 + 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,805 + the other building by a + weatherproof walkway, - 895 - 00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:50,614 - The seminary in Chicago, + 19 + 00:01:04,805 --> 00:01:06,875 + both above and below ground. - 896 - 00:38:50,614 --> 00:38:53,885 - which move by the January - Conference to St. Paul + 20 + 00:01:06,875 --> 00:01:08,840 + Hi, I'm sure you will + agree if you walk - 897 - 00:38:53,885 --> 00:38:58,190 - and the academy and - disseminate where to unite. + 21 + 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,060 + between the buildings + on the Old Campus, - 898 - 00:38:58,190 --> 00:39:01,125 - They required only academy - education to enter it. + 22 + 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:14,210 + this indeed is a worthy edition. - 899 - 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:03,470 - In fact, they took them at - first from the eighth grade. + 23 + 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:16,400 + We look at the campus now from - 900 - 00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:04,850 - It came from Sweden. + 24 + 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,105 + the east with the new + townhouses and view. - 901 - 00:39:04,850 --> 00:39:07,940 - And they didn't require - much if they knew the Lord + 25 + 00:01:20,105 --> 00:01:22,550 + This is the field of conflict for - 902 - 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:09,800 - and wanted to give - me subduing him and + 26 + 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:25,190 + football, baseball, and soccer - 903 - 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 - had some ability and - there were good pasture, + 27 + 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:28,595 + athletics out + important at Bethel. - 904 - 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,415 - say preach a gospel. + 28 + 00:01:28,595 --> 00:01:31,100 + Our new dorms consist of - 905 - 00:39:13,415 --> 00:39:15,560 - And so Guard resigned in + 29 + 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,725 + 14 units and two + clusters of seven. - 906 - 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,880 - 1914 and went to + 30 + 00:01:33,725 --> 00:01:37,580 + We can house 2221 unit 234, - 907 - 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,890 - New York as pasture - unto the church at him. + 31 + 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:41,210 + and the other a total of 456. - 908 - 00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:23,250 - And then he was called back - as Dean later and so on. + 32 + 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:43,760 + And they are all filled with - 909 - 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,189 - Now let me close with something + 33 + 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,940 + the housing on the Old + Campus filled as well. - 910 - 00:39:28,189 --> 00:39:30,800 - else about ingrain digest - slipped my mind him talking. + 34 + 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:50,570 + Each apartment + contains six students. - 911 - 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,564 - So Patch eight Green was - a brilliant scholar, + 35 + 00:01:50,570 --> 00:01:53,960 + There is a health center and + recreation room available in - 912 - 00:39:34,564 --> 00:39:37,100 - he was a scientific mind. + 36 + 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,500 + this complex and all the + other complexes as well. - 913 - 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,680 - He traveled much as a saver. + 37 + 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:00,320 + The total enrollment in + this year will run between - 914 - 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,770 - And it also says in his - book, and I think I'm right, + 38 + 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:06,575 + 12851300 in the college in + about 240 in the seminary. - 915 - 00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:46,475 - that he knew 32 - languages somewhat, + 39 + 00:02:06,575 --> 00:02:09,110 + This was the first dormitory to - 916 - 00:39:46,475 --> 00:39:49,805 - but he could speak - fluently 16 languages. + 40 + 00:02:09,110 --> 00:02:11,060 + have been constructed + on the new campus. - 917 - 00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:51,994 - Now there's a mind for you, + 41 + 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:14,000 + It holds 120 students. - 918 - 00:39:51,994 --> 00:39:55,040 - and I told you about the - commoners saying to him, + 42 + 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,430 + Here's located one of - 919 - 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,119 - the head of the navy said, + 43 + 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:19,595 + the most up-to-date libraries + in the state of Minnesota. - 920 - 00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,695 - you're, you're making a mistake. + 44 + 00:02:19,595 --> 00:02:21,980 + It is on two levels. - 921 - 00:39:57,695 --> 00:39:59,749 - You futures before you, + 45 + 00:02:21,980 --> 00:02:24,260 + Individual study units provide - 922 - 00:39:59,749 --> 00:40:02,210 - a glowing future, - all your ability. + 46 + 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:25,790 + privacy for tape recording, - 923 - 00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:03,560 - I have another call, sir. + 47 + 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:27,320 + as well as other functions - 924 - 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,555 - Thank you. But I - have another call. + 48 + 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,420 + which will be difficult + to accomplish. - 925 - 00:40:05,555 --> 00:40:08,600 - And you've heard of - the Rosetta Stone. + 49 + 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:31,489 + In the main library, - 926 - 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,780 - That was another stone - like the Rosetta Stone. + 50 + 00:02:31,489 --> 00:02:34,070 + our students have access not only - 927 - 00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:13,340 - I forget what they call it. + 51 + 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:36,545 + to our 79 thousand volumes, - 928 - 00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:15,439 - And the scientists were + 52 + 00:02:36,545 --> 00:02:38,780 + but any consortium of + seven other colleges, - 929 - 00:40:15,439 --> 00:40:19,970 - just were not agreed on some - of the interpretation there. + 53 + 00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:41,194 + as well as the Hill library, - 930 - 00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:23,675 - And they heard of Dr. Adrian, + 54 + 00:02:41,194 --> 00:02:43,520 + they can reach a total of - 931 - 00:40:23,675 --> 00:40:27,559 - he had a miraculous mine + 55 + 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,130 + 3 million volumes within + two days of requests, - 932 - 00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:31,009 - he did had and just - think his body was, + 56 + 00:02:47,289 --> 00:02:49,730 + >> students have access to cast - 933 - 00:40:31,009 --> 00:40:33,365 - was, was strong and all - these troubles paying. + 57 + 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:53,705 + that duplicated photo + laboratory movie slide, - 934 - 00:40:33,365 --> 00:40:36,770 - And so they sent it - to Dr. Adrian for + 58 + 00:02:53,705 --> 00:02:55,385 + overhead projection equipment, - 935 - 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:38,810 - his interpretation and he + 59 + 00:02:55,385 --> 00:02:58,470 + as well as TV tape reproduction. - 936 - 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:41,510 - gave them his interpretation - and they accepted it. + 60 + 00:03:01,930 --> 00:03:05,030 + The Bethel Bain 70 - 937 - 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:44,570 - And they got together on they - took his they accepted it. + 61 + 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:08,970 + strong is under the direction + of Dr. Julius wedding - 938 - 00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:47,705 - Put that with no Hudson - Austin's book, I'm sure. + 62 + 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,100 + string students at + Bethel are part of - 939 - 00:40:47,705 --> 00:40:52,894 - So on this quantum - artists to yes, + 63 + 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:23,780 + the Minnesota Mining Orchestra - 940 - 00:40:52,894 --> 00:40:55,310 - he was an artist from you + 64 + 00:03:23,780 --> 00:03:26,370 + under Dr. Wendy girls direction. - 941 - 00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:58,070 - and that we've had - in the old seminary. + 65 + 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:39,800 + The women's choir, the + newest musical group, - 942 - 00:40:58,070 --> 00:40:59,510 - I don't have any here now. + 66 + 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,480 + is about 12 years old, - 943 - 00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:01,459 - Painting that he had - made that had been + 67 + 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,950 + and this year will feature - 944 - 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:04,790 - made and it can just do - that for recreation. + 68 + 00:03:42,950 --> 00:03:46,980 + 48 students under the + direction of Mary fall. - 945 - 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:06,800 - Edwin? Oh, yeah. + 69 + 00:03:57,370 --> 00:04:00,200 + The male chorus is + perhaps the oldest, - 946 - 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,025 - There are others that - are still in existence. + 70 + 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,850 + the battles musical groups, - 947 - 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:13,550 - Human persons up his paintings - though we have to push, + 71 + 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:04,910 + and it's under the capable + direction of c. Edward Thomas, - 948 - 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:15,245 - will be somewhere - around or maybe more. + 72 + 00:04:04,910 --> 00:04:07,220 + popular Midwestern + musician and professor - 949 - 00:41:15,245 --> 00:41:17,269 - Yes, there and I'm going to + 73 + 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:13,320 + at Bethel all grace. - 950 - 00:41:17,269 --> 00:41:19,910 - restore it and framed properly. + 74 + 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:22,520 + Dr. Robert burglar and + directs the college choir, - 951 - 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:21,830 - I was in a home in California + 75 + 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,980 + which will tour the + East Coast this year - 952 - 00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:23,750 - and staying as guest overnight. + 76 + 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:39,410 + on special occasions, + the quires or - 953 - 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,465 - And in Oakland, I - guess it was because + 77 + 00:04:39,410 --> 00:04:42,110 + combine with other students + to make a great festival. - 954 - 00:41:26,465 --> 00:41:28,399 - the church needs to be + 78 + 00:04:42,110 --> 00:04:44,390 + Choir here creature with - 955 - 00:41:28,399 --> 00:41:30,410 - there and he had a - painting issues. + 79 + 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:48,450 + a Minnesota Orchestra during + the spring Music Festival. - 956 - 00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:35,135 - Just painting was made by - a DC-10 said and I got it. + 80 + 00:04:58,599 --> 00:05:02,390 + >> The art department offers + exciting possibilities + + 81 + 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:07,590 + in painting, sculpture, ceramics. - 957 - 00:41:35,135 --> 00:41:38,629 - I think Peter when he said he'd + 82 + 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:10,280 + Instruction is given on - 958 - 00:41:38,629 --> 00:41:40,400 - been had it there and he didn't + 83 + 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,840 + a personal basis in - 959 - 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,170 - seem to need to try - anything like that. + 84 + 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,465 + an atmosphere of informality + and understanding. - 960 - 00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:44,660 - And he said could I thought - that could I buy that? + 85 + 00:05:14,465 --> 00:05:18,120 + Numerous art exhibits are + held during the year. - 961 - 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:48,620 - Dr. Edgar Paraview and - they'd go ahead and take it. + 86 + 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,895 + Bethel is noted for its + sound liberal arts program. - 962 - 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:51,559 - He says, I want anonymous - either with Hamas or whether it + 87 + 00:05:22,895 --> 00:05:24,500 + It is fully accredited by - 963 - 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:56,330 - touches up s'mores has gotten - so they're able to $5. + 88 + 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:26,540 + the North Central + Association of Colleges - 964 - 00:41:56,330 --> 00:41:58,190 - Just gave him the picture. + 89 + 00:05:26,540 --> 00:05:27,935 + and secondary schools. - 965 - 00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:59,960 - You see? Yes, it was an artist. + 90 + 00:05:27,935 --> 00:05:30,140 + And as the unqualified + recognition of - 966 - 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,700 - And what else can - you say about him? + 91 + 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,870 + the University of Minnesota is - 967 - 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,244 - That he was, he was, + 92 + 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:36,755 + one of the finest private + college labs in the area. - 968 - 00:42:03,244 --> 00:42:05,584 - he was a marvelous mine + 93 + 00:05:36,755 --> 00:05:39,290 + A good safety feature is - 969 - 00:42:05,584 --> 00:42:11,040 - >> and yet make like this - will start on the other side. + 94 + 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:42,290 + the chemistry safety shower - 970 - 00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:22,979 - Yes, + 95 + 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:45,905 + with particular preparation + for eye protection. - 971 - 00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:41,969 - you see + 96 + 00:05:45,905 --> 00:05:48,320 + The study a biological function - 972 - 00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:01,669 - these + 97 + 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,825 + is a joy in this facility. - 973 - 00:44:01,669 --> 00:44:02,820 - two + 98 + 00:05:50,825 --> 00:05:54,560 + Physics receives at + proper due in this area. - 974 - 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:12,485 - verses + 99 + 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,825 + And other areas include + preparation for public education. - 975 - 00:44:12,485 --> 00:44:23,640 - on this side? + 100 + 00:05:59,825 --> 00:06:03,725 + Here is one of our student + teachers in action. - 976 - 00:44:59,770 --> 00:45:01,949 - Hi, + 101 + 00:06:03,725 --> 00:06:06,710 + Well, time fails. - 977 - 00:45:51,340 --> 00:45:53,730 - yes. - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:28:59 GMT -- request: - method: post - uri: http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/service/caption_captionasset/action/list - body: - encoding: UTF-8 - string: '{"filter":{"entryIdEqual":"0_k50pdtzh","objectType":"KalturaAssetFilter"},"ks":"","format":2,"clientTag":"ruby:22-07-27","apiVersion":"18.10.0","kalsig":"fe566ed366eb5aa28dae0755bd13a59d"}' - headers: - Accept: - - text/xml - User-Agent: - - rest-client/2.1.0 (darwin21 x86_64) ruby/3.1.2p20 - 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4 - 00:00:15,639 --> 00:00:18,519 - shifting gears in the - class and looking + 105 + 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:19,590 + social studies, Speech and Drama. - 5 - 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:22,149 - specific areas of the world and + 106 + 00:06:22,930 --> 00:06:26,435 + There are many ways for + self-expression battle. - 6 - 00:00:22,149 --> 00:00:25,300 - using them as case studies to - test some of the biblical, + 107 + 00:06:26,435 --> 00:06:28,475 + If you are sports minded, - 7 - 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:27,790 - theological and historical study + 108 + 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:31,310 + you can be an + enthusiastic spectator - 8 - 00:00:27,790 --> 00:00:29,440 - of mission that we have had up to + 109 + 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:35,525 + or a participant on + intramural are varsity level. - 9 - 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:36,430 - this in your textbook that came. + 110 + 00:06:35,525 --> 00:06:37,340 + Eight different sports are - 10 - 00:00:36,430 --> 00:00:40,075 - What you will be reading + 111 + 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:39,080 + conducted on the varsity level. - 11 - 00:00:40,075 --> 00:00:41,440 - in the tale about + 112 + 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,890 + And Bethel is a member the + tri-state athletic conference. - 12 - 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,880 - a variety of mission - areas in the world. + 113 + 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:47,675 + Perhaps your thing is + basketball or track. - 13 - 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,130 - Michael Caine has pulled together + 114 + 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:49,790 + The grunt and grow an artist have - 14 - 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:51,769 - the most recent - compilation of what is + 115 + 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:51,770 + their share of the limelight. - 15 - 00:00:51,769 --> 00:00:55,370 - going on in the world mission. + 116 + 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:56,370 + Our football wires do and + die for good. Old Bethel. - 16 - 00:00:55,370 --> 00:00:57,800 - It's not exciting reading, + 117 + 00:06:56,770 --> 00:07:00,680 + Bethel has had championship + tennis squats. - 17 - 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,990 - except if you happen - to be particularly + 118 + 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,355 + Baseball brings honour + to AJ alma mater. - 18 - 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:02,945 - interested in one area - of the world or other. + 119 + 00:07:04,355 --> 00:07:06,740 + Now soccer has been - 19 - 00:01:02,945 --> 00:01:08,419 - There's a great - collection of data names, + 120 + 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:10,085 + successfully added to + the velocity program. - 20 - 00:01:08,419 --> 00:01:10,730 - dates, and so on. + 121 + 00:07:10,085 --> 00:07:13,160 + Our lovely young + ladies are in hand for - 21 - 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:13,099 - But you should be - familiar with what's + 122 + 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,930 + all major events to encourage - 22 - 00:01:13,099 --> 00:01:14,840 - going on around the world. + 123 + 00:07:14,930 --> 00:07:17,790 + both participants and spectators. + + 124 + 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:24,950 + A most important part + of the Bethel story is + + 125 + 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:26,480 + the contribution of the seminary + + 126 + 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,295 + to the Baptist + general conference, + + 127 + 00:07:28,295 --> 00:07:31,835 + as well as to all major + evangelical groups. + + 128 + 00:07:31,835 --> 00:07:33,710 + Since its inception, + + 129 + 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:35,840 + theological studies + at Bethel seminary + + 130 + 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,370 + had been set within the framework + + 131 + 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:40,230 + of historic evangelical theology. + + 132 + 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:43,010 + Particular emphasis has been + + 133 + 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:45,020 + placed upon a + theology which gives + + 134 + 00:07:45,020 --> 00:07:49,505 + primacy to the Bible as the + source of Christian doctrine. + + 135 + 00:07:49,505 --> 00:07:51,890 + Major attention has been given to + + 136 + 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:54,875 + the foundational truths + of evangelical theology, + + 137 + 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:57,515 + such as the reliability + of the scriptures, + + 138 + 00:07:57,515 --> 00:07:59,195 + THE gravity of man, + + 139 + 00:07:59,195 --> 00:08:01,565 + the necessity of + divine redemption, + + 140 + 00:08:01,565 --> 00:08:03,590 + personal regeneration, + + 141 + 00:08:03,590 --> 00:08:05,525 + the resurrection of believers, + + 142 + 00:08:05,525 --> 00:08:07,460 + and the imminent + visible return of + + 143 + 00:08:07,460 --> 00:08:09,230 + Jesus Christ, our Lord. + + 144 + 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:11,930 + And say, Dr. Gordon Johnson + + 145 + 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:14,090 + announced this year + that Bethel graduated + + 146 + 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:16,910 + 55 seniors and is currently + + 147 + 00:08:16,910 --> 00:08:17,990 + enrolling between - 23 - 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,330 - And cane fills in all - the gaps which we would + 148 + 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:21,240 + two hundred and forty and two + hundred and fifty students. - 24 - 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:20,840 - possibly be able to - capture here in class. + 149 + 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:25,775 + Bethel is far more + than its buildings. - 25 - 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,384 - And I encourage you - to read that and + 150 + 00:08:25,775 --> 00:08:29,705 + Bethel is more than superior + academic achievement. - 26 - 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:26,944 - read it carefully because + 151 + 00:08:29,705 --> 00:08:33,350 + Bethel is even bigger than + the all important graduation - 27 - 00:01:26,944 --> 00:01:29,120 - for your own education, + 152 + 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:39,950 + on Bethel is bigger than + any personal achievement. - 28 - 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,649 - ought to be aware of what + 153 + 00:08:39,950 --> 00:08:41,930 + As important as it is, - 29 - 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:34,055 - the Christian church is - doing throughout the world. + 154 + 00:08:41,930 --> 00:08:45,799 + Bethel is a corporate + opportunity to grow with others - 30 - 00:01:34,055 --> 00:01:35,360 - Not only in terms of + 155 + 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:49,080 + >> in spiritual + outreach and develop. - 31 - 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,879 - missionaries that we - sent from America, + 156 + 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:53,315 + Although chapel is not + required at Bethel, - 32 - 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:39,500 - but in terms of many of + 157 + 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:56,030 + it is most significant + that most of - 33 - 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,929 - the indigenous - movements and so on, + 158 + 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:59,610 + the student body unites + each day for worship. - 34 - 00:01:41,929 --> 00:01:44,840 - around the world are - some exciting stories of + 159 + 00:08:59,740 --> 00:09:02,690 + Time to time, the + entire student body, - 35 - 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,850 - what is happening - in the Church of + 160 + 00:09:02,690 --> 00:09:03,920 + both seminary in college, - 36 - 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:49,370 - Jesus Christ in many - areas of the world. + 161 + 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,950 + meet outdoors in a great + natural ampitheater. - 37 - 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:51,530 - And I'm a little frightened by + 162 + 00:09:08,050 --> 00:09:12,260 + Jerry Healy shares with + us student testimonies. - 38 - 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:54,200 - the present trend - within our own country, + 163 + 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:14,790 + Now from our campus - 39 - 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,915 - particularly among the - younger generations. + 164 + 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,010 + is a Christian - 40 - 00:01:56,915 --> 00:02:00,049 - Now kind of Neil, - isolationism in America, + 165 + 00:09:28,010 --> 00:09:30,815 + arts colleague, James + Theological Seminary - 41 - 00:02:00,049 --> 00:02:02,329 - which subtracts us from + 166 + 00:09:30,815 --> 00:09:34,745 + dedicated to the development + of a strong people, - 42 - 00:02:02,329 --> 00:02:06,395 - our involvement are places - in the world, Latin America. + 167 + 00:09:34,745 --> 00:09:39,260 + fully matures, sensitive, + and inner directed. - 43 - 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:09,169 - We see it in our foreign policy + 168 + 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:41,885 + A people continually growing - 44 - 00:02:09,169 --> 00:02:13,670 - of the Cries about arc one - policy from groups in America. + 169 + 00:09:41,885 --> 00:09:45,185 + toward the model of Jesus Christ. - 45 - 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:17,345 - And many of these voices - are the voices of beyond. + 170 + 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:49,070 + I've only been at Beth + and I think the thing - 46 - 00:02:17,345 --> 00:02:19,940 - I hope that you - aren't captivated, + 171 + 00:09:49,070 --> 00:09:52,610 + that impresses me the most + was the Christian community. - 47 - 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:23,990 - at least in terms of your - Christian outlook by this neil, + 172 + 00:09:52,610 --> 00:09:56,360 + Yes, I think it's so + important to integrate - 48 - 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:29,975 - isolationism, exciting things - going on in the world. + 173 + 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,290 + academic and special thanks - 49 - 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:32,660 - Are not those going - on in America? + 174 + 00:10:00,290 --> 00:10:05,255 + to the thing I most crazy about, - 50 - 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:35,180 - Many things in other - parts of the world. + 175 + 00:10:05,255 --> 00:10:07,520 + about FAFSA is that - 51 - 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:36,935 - And I want you to be - familiar with those. + 176 + 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,935 + it's been sorry about + the whole person. - 52 - 00:02:36,935 --> 00:02:39,905 - That's the reason - for your reading? + 177 + 00:10:09,935 --> 00:10:14,195 + Academic or intellectual + or spiritual Sosa. - 53 - 00:02:39,905 --> 00:02:44,690 - K? I'm well aware from - my own reading it + 178 + 00:10:14,195 --> 00:10:15,590 + But watching such that I can have - 54 - 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:48,589 - came that in some instances + 179 + 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:17,165 + a relationship between faculty. - 55 - 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:51,539 - not going to be heavily - stimulate others. You, well, + 180 + 00:10:17,165 --> 00:10:20,495 + Ostinato festivals are really - 56 - 00:02:51,539 --> 00:02:55,315 - I want you to read it unless - in class we are going + 181 + 00:10:20,495 --> 00:10:23,395 + sincere and they really + want to be loved. - 57 - 00:02:55,315 --> 00:02:58,974 - to be zeroing in on a series + 182 + 00:10:23,395 --> 00:10:27,785 + People town opening my mind - 58 - 00:02:58,974 --> 00:03:04,900 - of particular areas - of the world in + 183 + 00:10:27,785 --> 00:10:31,940 + to expand on almost any + broad thing that I want to. - 59 - 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:07,569 - an attempt to see in a case study + 184 + 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:34,365 + Education I'm getting + here is type. - 60 - 00:03:07,569 --> 00:03:11,530 - some of the larger implications - of mission study itself. + 185 + 00:10:34,365 --> 00:10:35,990 + And that I think has - 61 - 00:03:11,530 --> 00:03:14,620 - For example, this time Friday, + 186 + 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:38,450 + prepared me for the + direction I'm going. - 62 - 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:19,165 - I hope to look at one or - two specific areas in Asia. + 187 + 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:41,585 + I think it's given us a + quality education advisor, - 63 - 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:22,659 - Next Wednesday, I - wanted to do the same + 188 + 00:10:41,585 --> 00:10:43,280 + confidence learning, - 64 - 00:03:22,659 --> 00:03:26,725 - with one or two particular - countries in Africa. + 189 + 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,990 + part of that community + experience I - 65 - 00:03:26,725 --> 00:03:29,980 - That following Friday, I've + 190 + 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:46,670 + see as it's trying to find - 66 - 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:34,229 - invited Charlie D1, - Chippewa Indian + 191 + 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:48,500 + a way to relate + what we're learning - 67 - 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:36,769 - To come to focus in on + 192 + 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,360 + in our classes to our + Christian experience. - 68 - 00:03:36,769 --> 00:03:40,579 - mission the Christian church - within the Indian community, + 193 + 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:58,265 + >> But what about Bethel? - 69 - 00:03:40,579 --> 00:03:42,680 - particularly here in Minnesota. + 194 + 00:10:58,265 --> 00:11:01,625 + In a day when colleges are + closing all over the nation, - 70 - 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,769 - Charlie d1, if an Indian - himself, as I've mentioned, + 195 + 00:11:01,625 --> 00:11:04,820 + when enrollments are + falling off at seminaries. - 71 - 00:03:45,769 --> 00:03:48,110 - and he's been acquainted with + 196 + 00:11:04,820 --> 00:11:08,640 + What about Bethel, Dr. Lundquist? - 72 - 00:03:48,110 --> 00:03:50,749 - the activities of the - American Indian Movement, + 197 + 00:11:09,730 --> 00:11:12,800 + I have just begun my 20th year as - 73 - 00:03:50,749 --> 00:03:52,760 - has been involved with - that in the past. + 198 + 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,320 + president of Bethel + College in seminary. - 74 - 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,309 - Now, working on the health - needs of the Indians + 199 + 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,780 + And I want to say that + from the perspective - 75 - 00:03:55,309 --> 00:03:59,280 - in Minneapolis is - a Christian man. + 200 + 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:20,690 + of almost two decades + in this office, - 76 - 00:04:01,059 --> 00:04:03,770 - >> Okay, I think we're all set. + 201 + 00:11:20,690 --> 00:11:22,790 + that the work of + leading our college - 77 - 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:11,375 - Well, I came in 1910 and - gardeners still there. + 202 + 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,770 + and our Seminary + has never been more - 78 - 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:14,765 - My brother was kind of an - assistant productive guard. + 203 + 00:11:24,770 --> 00:11:27,335 + exciting or more satisfying - 79 - 00:04:14,765 --> 00:04:18,530 - He had charged to the - making the schedules for + 204 + 00:11:27,335 --> 00:11:30,635 + or more challenging + than it is this year. - 80 - 00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:20,165 - the students and and + 205 + 00:11:30,635 --> 00:11:32,300 + I'm so glad that when - 81 - 00:04:20,165 --> 00:04:21,680 - different students - had different jobs. + 206 + 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,610 + the Lord called me + into his service, - 82 - 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,479 - They want to get away - early and could they + 207 + 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:38,690 + sign me to the task of + working with young people. - 83 - 00:04:23,479 --> 00:04:25,640 - get the classes personally - in the morning? + 208 + 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:40,610 + And I have a sense of - 84 - 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,740 - And one teacher that's - missed Swensen came + 209 + 00:11:40,610 --> 00:11:44,120 + great personal satisfaction + in seeking to relate - 85 - 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:29,749 - to St. Paul and she she wanted + 210 + 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,270 + my own life and + commitment to Christ to - 86 - 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:32,420 - to not have to come + 211 + 00:11:47,270 --> 00:11:49,010 + the hundreds of + young people who are - 87 - 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:33,619 - early and she wanted to leave + 212 + 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:51,260 + on the campus year after year, - 88 - 00:04:33,619 --> 00:04:35,840 - early because she had - something on my brother. + 213 + 00:11:51,260 --> 00:11:55,130 + and pray that as they + find their place in life, - 89 - 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,629 - He he'd work on act on - that schedule and every + 214 + 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:57,980 + God will use them to help shape - 90 - 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:42,959 - year he got everybody. - It is a miracle + 215 + 00:11:57,980 --> 00:12:01,775 + the future of our world + with Christian values. - 91 - 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:48,950 - by the light, be the token - with my big brother. + 216 + 00:12:01,775 --> 00:12:04,550 + During the course of the + two decades that I've - 92 - 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:51,710 - And he has meant I could - tell it to read my books. + 217 + 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:07,160 + had the privilege of being + on the Bethel campus, - 93 - 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:55,190 - Sometimes they attribute data. + 218 + 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,300 + I would guess that I have had + the opportunity of working - 94 - 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:58,625 - We just opened it and - remember that influences. + 219 + 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:13,730 + directly or indirectly with - 95 - 00:04:58,625 --> 00:05:03,425 - Well anyway, he'd been - went the other way. + 220 + 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:16,970 + more than 15 thousand + young people. - 96 - 00:05:03,425 --> 00:05:06,680 - We were working a lot with - little fellow. I was there. + 221 + 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,325 + And wherever I go + around the world, - 97 - 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,090 - I was five years, + 222 + 00:12:19,325 --> 00:12:22,055 + I see them busy for Jesus Christ. - 98 - 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:09,515 - almost five years - younger than he. + 223 + 00:12:22,055 --> 00:12:24,950 + They are in almost every + field of endeavor. - 99 - 00:05:09,515 --> 00:05:12,110 - And he picked up that used - to pick up cigar butts, + 224 + 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:26,884 + Some are college president's, - 100 - 00:05:12,110 --> 00:05:13,580 - cigarette butts, kitchen, + 225 + 00:12:26,884 --> 00:12:29,360 + some are presence of + Christian schools like - 101 - 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:14,749 - I used to do with the OT do yet, + 226 + 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,895 + Bethel College and a seminary. - 102 - 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:16,145 - maybe probably not though. + 227 + 00:12:31,895 --> 00:12:34,475 + Some are teachers in + public universities, - 103 - 00:05:16,145 --> 00:05:17,989 - He picked up a cigar - and I thought it was + 228 + 00:12:34,475 --> 00:12:38,105 + some are doctors and + lawyers and businessmen. - 104 - 00:05:17,989 --> 00:05:19,730 - going to do that. He - said, Henry with you. + 229 + 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:40,730 + Many are social workers and are - 105 - 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:22,369 - Promise me one thing what I said, + 230 + 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:44,300 + extending their lives into + this field of human endeavor. - 106 - 00:05:22,369 --> 00:05:24,905 - but that she will - never smoke on age. + 231 + 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:46,970 + Many are missionaries + and pastors on - 107 - 00:05:24,905 --> 00:05:27,590 - Now he he could've - done something else. + 232 + 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:50,765 + the front line proclaiming + the gospel of Jesus Christ. - 108 - 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:29,719 - You know, top deaths - would and I said, + 233 + 00:12:50,765 --> 00:12:52,670 + I always come back from seeing - 109 - 00:05:29,719 --> 00:05:31,025 - sure, I promise you. + 234 + 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:54,320 + these alumni at work around - 110 - 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:33,799 - Well, I don't know how - strong that promise was, + 235 + 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,430 + the world praising God all + over again for the share that - 111 - 00:05:33,799 --> 00:05:35,570 - but I knew I never - did and never smoked + 236 + 00:12:58,430 --> 00:13:02,090 + Mrs. Lundquist and I + have in their lives. - 112 - 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:37,910 - cigarette smoke smoke cigarettes? + 237 + 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:04,850 + Just the other day, I + received a note from - 113 - 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:40,220 - Of course not. But that's - the way he could've led me. + 238 + 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:07,445 + a young girl who + graduated last spring. - 114 - 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,175 - As I say in the book, - he led me down. + 239 + 00:13:07,445 --> 00:13:08,870 + He's now the director of - 115 - 00:05:43,175 --> 00:05:46,295 - He led me up and all - the rest of the way. + 240 + 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:11,480 + a Bible school program + on the west coast. - 116 - 00:05:46,295 --> 00:05:47,600 - He wish he would want to + 241 + 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,090 + She wrote saying that during + the preceding summer, - 117 - 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,550 - encourage them into - everything you've ever done. + 242 + 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:15,140 + she had the chance of - 118 - 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:52,430 - I'm going to quit school, - go to school, you should. + 243 + 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:16,910 + leading 71 children to - 119 - 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:56,990 - Henry and I went and I mean, + 244 + 00:13:16,910 --> 00:13:19,265 + a saving knowledge + of Jesus Christ. - 120 - 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:59,059 - he persuaded me and just all + 245 + 00:13:19,265 --> 00:13:23,780 + So she was writing out a great + enthusiasm along with it. - 121 - 00:05:59,059 --> 00:06:01,880 - the way through, - he'd been wonderful. + 246 + 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:25,910 + This young girl just + a few months out of - 122 - 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,970 - Well, he came, he - became principal. + 247 + 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:29,870 + Bethel and closed a + money order for $40, - 123 - 00:06:04,970 --> 00:06:07,279 - Then after Dr. Gore had left + 248 + 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:34,130 + her first gift as an + alumna to her alma mater. - 124 - 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,320 - and he loved music, + 249 + 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:36,875 + With it, she said a little note, - 125 - 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,150 - used to sing songs. - We sing duets. + 250 + 00:13:36,875 --> 00:13:40,595 + you might be interested + in one paragraph of it. - 126 - 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:13,054 - You can do it on the telephone, + 251 + 00:13:40,595 --> 00:13:42,395 + This young girl wrote, - 127 - 00:06:13,054 --> 00:06:15,425 - country telephone, - and in the churches. + 252 + 00:13:42,395 --> 00:13:45,200 + I graduated from + Bethel this past May, - 128 - 00:06:15,425 --> 00:06:17,814 - And the first show me saying I'm + 253 + 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,970 + and I never told you how much. - 129 - 00:06:17,814 --> 00:06:20,134 - inviting some of the song + 254 + 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:48,710 + I appreciate both of you. - 130 - 00:06:20,134 --> 00:06:22,700 - and matter railroads - were saying everywhere. + 255 + 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:51,050 + This is addressed to + both Mrs. Lundquist, - 131 - 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:27,440 - And then ten or ending soprano, + 256 + 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:53,210 + myself, you were and - 132 - 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 - I guess Japan or Beijing. + 257 + 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:55,565 + have continued to be + an inspiration to me. - 133 - 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,540 - And he'd come home from - college, Williams Jr. College. + 258 + 00:13:55,565 --> 00:13:57,320 + I pray that God will richly - 134 - 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:37,159 - We take a long walk and - you tell me everything + 259 + 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,495 + bless you both for + all you've done. - 135 - 00:06:37,159 --> 00:06:39,125 - happened in a school - and everything. + 260 + 00:13:59,495 --> 00:14:00,935 + Not just for battle, - 136 - 00:06:39,125 --> 00:06:42,680 - He was he was just a terrific - influence in my life. + 261 + 00:14:00,935 --> 00:14:03,965 + but for me and all the + individual students. - 137 - 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,590 - And I've got that - written up in the book. + 262 + 00:14:03,965 --> 00:14:05,705 + We love you dearly. - 138 - 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:48,995 - When it came to music - used to sing solos + 263 + 00:14:05,705 --> 00:14:07,520 + And I want you to + know that I will be - 139 - 00:06:48,995 --> 00:06:52,190 - He was also an athlete who's - on the varsity football team + 264 + 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,040 + continually praying for you both. - 140 - 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:55,160 - at Williams College - and Kansas City there. + 265 + 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,200 + Well, that's enough to keep - 141 - 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,509 - And so when he became principal, + 266 + 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,510 + a president going for + another whole year. - 142 - 00:06:59,509 --> 00:07:03,590 - the Academy, he could - use those talents. + 267 + 00:14:14,510 --> 00:14:17,600 + And it's only a small sample of - 143 - 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:08,570 - And the organized - every year a may, + 268 + 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,720 + the enthusiasm of one + alumnus that i c, - 144 - 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:11,119 - of course, metal Academy gave + 269 + 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,480 + multiplied and many + lives around the world, - 145 - 00:07:11,119 --> 00:07:12,950 - a concert that twin - city church and we + 270 + 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,605 + and that I share myself long ago, - 146 - 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:15,035 - were the pet to the - Trinity Church. + 271 + 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:30,560 + Mark Hopkins said that + the ideal picture of - 147 - 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:17,120 - There little opposition - between Chicago + 272 + 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,370 + a school was made up of one + student and one teacher, - 148 - 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,070 - and Cemetery and academy. + 273 + 00:14:34,370 --> 00:14:36,665 + each on two ends of a log. - 149 - 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:21,799 - There's kind of a fiction - friction there in + 274 + 00:14:36,665 --> 00:14:38,300 + And when they were there, - 150 - 00:07:21,799 --> 00:07:25,190 - a mild way or sheep and they - turn out they pack a chair. + 275 + 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:41,120 + they had an educational + experience going. - 151 - 00:07:25,190 --> 00:07:26,449 - It can never that - contract came out + 276 + 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,400 + I think, however that + we would have to - 152 - 00:07:26,449 --> 00:07:27,830 - from Bethel Academy and for + 277 + 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,500 + say that somewhere + on that log there is - 153 - 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:31,279 - other things for Bethel - Academy. And then + 278 + 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,755 + a third person and + that's the partner - 154 - 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:35,630 - he had an amusing and then - his athletic prowess. + 279 + 00:14:48,755 --> 00:14:52,535 + like you in the life + of Bethel people. - 155 - 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:38,360 - And he was able to lead the - boys athletics and leave + 280 + 00:14:52,535 --> 00:14:54,620 + And we believe in the + mission of our school, - 156 - 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,285 - the field day athletic. + 281 + 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:56,720 + who believe in + young people today, - 157 - 00:07:41,285 --> 00:07:44,570 - And he did a great work - and quiet Pele and up. + 282 + 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,080 + who believe in the need for + Christian higher education, - 158 - 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:46,699 - But he yeah, that's + 283 + 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,060 + who believe in using education - 159 - 00:07:46,699 --> 00:07:48,530 - the way he's been IBS - you pretend there for + 284 + 00:15:02,060 --> 00:15:04,370 + as an instrument of the gospel. - 160 - 00:07:48,530 --> 00:07:52,820 - 50 years and more and he's - still a strength in that. + 285 + 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:07,340 + And who, as a result + of these beliefs, - 161 - 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:55,670 - Chair members of the - Board of Trustees + 286 + 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:10,925 + are investing their + gifts in battle. - 162 - 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:58,220 - he picked up on the street - and come to Sunday School. + 287 + 00:15:10,925 --> 00:15:15,110 + I feel that you are partners + with us in helping to shape - 163 - 00:07:58,220 --> 00:07:59,870 - The man that shipped - in the Sunday School + 288 + 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:17,930 + a whole new generation that can - 164 - 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:02,490 - picked him years ago. + 289 + 00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:21,305 + make a difference for Jesus + Christ in this world. - 165 - 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:06,395 - Tell me a story about that. + 290 + 00:15:21,305 --> 00:15:23,840 + I hope that you will + want to continue to - 166 - 00:08:06,395 --> 00:08:08,180 - And it's a real all - the way through. + 291 + 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,225 + be a partner at the + level of stewardship. - 167 - 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:09,889 - I was coming from - some meetings up in + 292 + 00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:30,410 + And that this year you + will again find great joy - 168 - 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:14,090 - northern Minnesota and - I was on a bus Sunday + 293 + 00:15:30,410 --> 00:15:34,804 + and satisfaction yourself + in multiplying your life - 169 - 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:17,599 - night and Bush was almost - empty and I show how to get + 294 + 00:15:34,804 --> 00:15:38,060 + >> into the lives of + hundreds of young people - 170 - 00:08:17,599 --> 00:08:18,950 - on the bus kind of + 295 + 00:15:38,060 --> 00:15:42,260 + whose education you + make possible at Beso. - 171 - 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:21,290 - drunk and another fellow - saying goodbye to him. + 296 + 00:15:42,260 --> 00:15:48,620 + Thank you so much for what + you do and for what you are. - 172 - 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:23,480 - 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Titled his talk. - 173 - 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,409 - down drug or clinic Christian, + 2 + 00:00:09,525 --> 00:00:12,720 + I come just a few days ago from - 174 - 00:08:27,409 --> 00:08:29,720 - you know, and he + 3 + 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,080 + the voltage Swedish Baptist + Church in the world. - 175 - 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,600 - came and said that - brings you to pull out. + 4 + 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,940 + As you probably know, - 176 - 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,960 - His players have a - great favor, vacuous. + 5 + 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:21,765 + there will be celebrating + the 20th anniversary. - 177 - 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,294 - And he took it pretty soon again, + 6 + 00:00:21,765 --> 00:00:24,959 + And as I say, the oldest + in the world, they know, - 178 - 00:08:40,294 --> 00:08:42,410 - you know, we had it - would have a drink. + 7 + 00:00:24,959 --> 00:00:26,730 + Swedish Baptist Church + in Sweden that says - 179 - 00:08:42,410 --> 00:08:46,324 - Neighbor actually about - the third time he said + 8 + 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:30,090 + oldest church down in Iowa. - 180 - 00:08:46,324 --> 00:08:48,290 - by any chance him and it's true. + 9 + 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:32,189 + The General Conference was - 181 - 00:08:48,290 --> 00:08:50,060 - And I told him what I was doing. + 10 + 00:00:32,189 --> 00:00:34,740 + organized in that church. + Now that's interesting. + + 11 + 00:00:34,740 --> 00:00:38,324 + You know that somebody in 1879, - 182 - 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:51,350 - Oh, I'm so sorry. + 12 + 00:00:38,324 --> 00:00:39,719 + Agenda conference organizer to - 183 - 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:56,135 - He said, hi, I don't - drink, I don't dream. + 13 + 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:42,595 + very small group of churches, - 184 - 00:08:56,135 --> 00:08:57,590 - But, you know, it's terrible. + 14 + 00:00:42,595 --> 00:00:44,330 + not so many from the East. - 185 - 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:58,730 - I'm going back to the worn + 15 + 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:45,799 + There were some churches + there, of course, - 186 - 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,695 - out going back to - our station there. + 16 + 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:47,030 + but it is more in - 187 - 00:09:00,695 --> 00:09:03,605 - And I just have my wife - and children with his + 17 + 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:50,240 + the midway and some from + the East met there. - 188 - 00:09:03,605 --> 00:09:06,950 - with her folks know I'm going - back and it's terrible. + 18 + 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,079 + And we have the history in - 189 - 00:09:06,950 --> 00:09:07,970 - What do you think about this? + 19 + 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:55,729 + the General Conference + and you'll that you - 190 - 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:09,499 - War is a terrible, + 20 + 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:57,905 + get every year at the conference. - 191 - 00:09:09,499 --> 00:09:11,285 - terrible, and so on. + 21 + 00:00:57,905 --> 00:01:02,450 + You have some records there - 192 - 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:12,920 - And then he told me, + 22 + 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:04,250 + until she was chairman - 193 - 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,155 - you belong in the - spiritualist church. + 23 + 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:07,685 + that year and so on, + presiding officer. - 194 - 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:16,640 - He belonged who had - come to church, + 24 + 00:01:07,685 --> 00:01:10,430 + And where they met + two pizzas servant. - 195 - 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,440 - which they're kind people. + 25 + 00:01:10,430 --> 00:01:13,489 + Well, the very first + one would be that - 196 - 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,289 - And about Jerry, he said, - I don't want to drink, + 26 + 00:01:13,489 --> 00:01:17,225 + one in Lansing pilot. - 197 - 00:09:21,289 --> 00:09:23,119 - but he got into this - just to kinda shoe + 27 + 00:01:17,225 --> 00:01:20,089 + Now, regarding the Swedish + Baptist movement manner, - 198 - 00:09:23,119 --> 00:09:25,745 - this mind and, and all of that. + 28 + 00:01:20,089 --> 00:01:24,214 + say just talk in front of the + Swedish Baptist movement. - 199 - 00:09:25,745 --> 00:09:29,045 - And he said, you know, I - live in Minneapolis, I work + 29 + 00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:28,565 + >> America was like + the Lutheran movement. - 200 - 00:09:29,045 --> 00:09:31,880 - and there's a fellow - came and picked + 30 + 00:01:28,565 --> 00:01:32,045 + Unlike other movements + from Europe. - 201 - 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,889 - up my little boy - comes from layer, + 31 + 00:01:32,045 --> 00:01:35,420 + They would come to America + because that's a new country. - 202 - 00:09:33,889 --> 00:09:35,450 - which suddenly went - on Abraham and he + 32 + 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:36,949 + That so that's a silver - 203 - 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:37,040 - said he took that boil. + 33 + 00:01:36,949 --> 00:01:38,840 + and gold and American, + all of that. - 204 - 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,110 - All I said was a name wing blade. + 34 + 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,715 + My mother and father came. - 205 - 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:40,640 - Yes. He said do you know him? + 35 + 00:01:40,715 --> 00:01:43,459 + Your some of your ancestors did, - 206 - 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,160 - And I said, oh, + 36 + 00:01:43,459 --> 00:01:45,320 + Davis did and all that. - 207 - 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,259 - I want to write home to my - wife and tell her that I met + 37 + 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,725 + And sometimes they come + in groups from Sweden. - 208 - 00:09:45,259 --> 00:09:47,990 - a man on the bus - who knew that man + 38 + 00:01:48,725 --> 00:01:53,960 + And now my father and mother + came first to New York. - 209 - 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:51,814 - made good progress and have + 39 + 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,510 + Never met that there + were married and he - 210 - 00:09:51,814 --> 00:09:53,689 - that whether we had the warm + 40 + 00:01:56,510 --> 00:01:59,180 + became a Christian also, - 211 - 00:09:53,689 --> 00:09:55,339 - talked all the way - to Minneapolis, + 41 + 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:01,940 + but he wasn't at first + and they went out west - 212 - 00:09:55,339 --> 00:09:57,350 - had a wonderful time, really did. + 42 + 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:04,175 + and finally father homesteaders - 213 - 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:59,344 - And when I got home, + 43 + 00:02:04,175 --> 00:02:06,320 + to farm in northern Kansas. - 214 - 00:09:59,344 --> 00:10:02,764 - I called my brother - has about 111130 + 44 + 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,305 + Here. They weren't + alone in that district. - 215 - 00:10:02,764 --> 00:10:05,450 - and he gave me the - name of the boy. + 45 + 00:02:09,305 --> 00:02:12,004 + There's a group that + I come from Sweden, - 216 - 00:10:05,450 --> 00:10:07,580 - Let's call them sandwich burnout. + 46 + 00:02:12,004 --> 00:02:14,570 + had been converted in Sweden. - 217 - 00:10:07,580 --> 00:10:09,109 - And I call my brothers - or do you know + 47 + 00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:16,430 + There's a book that + I wish I could + + 48 + 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:17,450 + read if you get a hold of it, - 218 - 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:10,895 - Sam? Did you ever pick him? + 49 + 00:02:17,450 --> 00:02:18,605 + the song of the roche. - 219 - 00:10:10,895 --> 00:10:12,470 - By the name of the father, + 50 + 00:02:18,605 --> 00:02:19,669 + Maybe it's in the library, - 220 - 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:14,360 - I guess I said and I said, + 51 + 00:02:19,669 --> 00:02:22,475 + maybe not iPads to run my church. - 221 - 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,970 - You know, somebody so-and-so - had a boy who picked up. + 52 + 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:24,140 + I send it to theater ambition of - 222 - 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:18,560 - Oh, yeah, that was damnation. + 53 + 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:25,820 + the covenant church, + a copy of it. - 223 - 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,290 - Yes, I picked him. I never - could get them to come. + 54 + 00:02:25,820 --> 00:02:29,180 + Sum those two takes care. - 224 - 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:23,690 - But PK Well, that's my brother. + 55 + 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:32,449 + It presents the artistic + movements are with God in - 225 - 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:29,389 - You see she now all the - way through and right now, + 56 + 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:34,490 + Sweden and they'd + meet and you see - 226 - 00:10:29,389 --> 00:10:30,920 - each advisor for the pasture + 57 + 00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:36,910 + the state church + was cold and day. - 227 - 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,510 - pasture tapes that - have really changed + 58 + 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:39,109 + It was pretty much + dead in places, - 228 - 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:36,815 - you in the in the church - and even in a loving way. + 59 + 00:02:39,109 --> 00:02:42,875 + you know, and it didn't, + it wasn't spirits. - 229 - 00:10:36,815 --> 00:10:40,835 - He believes in prayer and - he prays for everything. + 60 + 00:02:42,875 --> 00:02:45,095 + Or even Sir Walter + Scott brings that out. - 230 - 00:10:40,835 --> 00:10:43,160 - Well, now let's see what else. + 61 + 00:02:45,095 --> 00:02:48,905 + How the power let that cathedral + and went to the cottage. - 231 - 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,085 - I know the time came to - unite the two schools. + 62 + 00:02:48,905 --> 00:02:52,760 + Remember that line + Spencer edition said? - 232 - 00:10:46,085 --> 00:10:48,080 - Chicago churches were pretty + 63 + 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,330 + And so they organized - 233 - 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,404 - strong to keep the - seminary in Chicago, + 64 + 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:57,155 + their little church + in northern Kansas. - 234 - 00:10:50,404 --> 00:10:53,135 - but they didn't raise any - money to do anything about it. + 65 + 00:02:57,155 --> 00:03:00,065 + Maybe 12 members, + maybe 40 members. - 235 - 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:54,755 - Many soda. + 66 + 00:03:00,065 --> 00:03:03,950 + Number of couples that + knew each other in Sweden. - 236 - 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:55,895 - The academy was here. + 67 + 00:03:03,950 --> 00:03:06,589 + And there are at least I remember - 237 - 00:10:55,895 --> 00:10:57,050 - We had one building + 68 + 00:03:06,589 --> 00:03:09,920 + was when I was in + Sunday School there, - 238 - 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:58,475 - anyway, they didn't - have any building. + 69 + 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,980 + my father taught off him + and and all the boys. - 239 - 00:10:58,475 --> 00:11:00,380 - They borrowed buildings - from Chicago University + 70 + 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:15,050 + And I was five years old. - 240 - 00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:01,715 - that they didn't have their own, + 71 + 00:03:15,050 --> 00:03:16,745 + Cemetery moved away. - 241 - 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:03,305 - just about we can shape + 72 + 00:03:16,745 --> 00:03:18,770 + But he was my father + was talking and he was - 242 - 00:11:03,305 --> 00:11:05,480 - and but we had that - academy building. + 73 + 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:23,090 + just a Ernest Christian and + not educated and all of that, - 243 - 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,170 - Michelle and Dr. - Laura said, oh good, + 74 + 00:03:23,090 --> 00:03:24,890 + but he knew the Bible. - 244 - 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:13,895 - that'll build little rat hole. + 75 + 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:26,180 + I remember he turned to me. - 245 - 00:11:13,895 --> 00:11:16,620 - I think he used that - word in Swedish, + 76 + 00:03:26,180 --> 00:03:27,485 + Henry, what do you think about - 246 - 00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:21,140 - but he was riots but does go now. + 77 + 00:03:27,485 --> 00:03:29,990 + that for Beth and thereby lab, - 247 - 00:11:21,140 --> 00:11:22,189 - They had Home George, + 78 + 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:32,960 + because he's got the + humor to it to do that. - 248 - 00:11:22,189 --> 00:11:23,870 - professors, they had nice homes. + 79 + 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,315 + I think about that. - 249 - 00:11:23,870 --> 00:11:25,759 - And in Morgan Park, you know, + 80 + 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:37,145 + You're in this class too. - 250 - 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,505 - kind of neighborhood like this, - there's only not so good. + 81 + 00:03:37,145 --> 00:03:38,900 + And there was a pastor. - 251 - 00:11:28,505 --> 00:11:30,335 - And they did whether Lee, + 82 + 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:41,330 + His name was John JSON. + Whatever the Misha DJ. - 252 - 00:11:30,335 --> 00:11:31,400 - Dr. hid, the inductor, + 83 + 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:43,549 + And they got you got $300 a year, - 253 - 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,019 - Sandel doctor, lawyer in, + 84 + 00:03:43,549 --> 00:03:46,430 + which is a lot of + money things dollar + + 85 + 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:49,609 + than would be dollar + now would be 30, - 254 - 00:11:33,019 --> 00:11:35,209 - maybe somebody else. And, + 86 + 00:03:49,609 --> 00:03:51,410 + $40? Yes, it would be. - 255 - 00:11:35,209 --> 00:11:38,689 - and they voted on the, - the, the conference, + 87 + 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:54,274 + I think you've you + that well, anyway, - 256 - 00:11:38,689 --> 00:11:41,810 - decided to let all the - churches in the country in + 88 + 00:03:54,274 --> 00:03:58,040 + there were groups and + there were churches here. - 257 - 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:43,759 - the conference vote on whether it + 89 + 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,580 + They're organized and then + they would get together. - 258 - 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,130 - should be in Chicago, - orange, St. Paul. + 90 + 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:07,455 + And finally they organized a + general conference in 1879. - 259 - 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:48,484 - In the meantime, - there's a little dip, + 91 + 00:04:07,455 --> 00:04:09,655 + And then the work went up. - 260 - 00:11:48,484 --> 00:11:51,110 - maybe 3 thousand I mentioned - to you by thousand, + 92 + 00:04:09,655 --> 00:04:11,755 + Now I press, there was no school. - 261 - 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:53,330 - eight thousand on the academy. + 93 + 00:04:11,755 --> 00:04:15,895 + You know that the preachers + came from Sweden and - 262 - 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:54,830 - And they had the Academy to + 94 + 00:04:15,895 --> 00:04:17,710 + they want to keep a Swedish + so long as they could - 263 - 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:56,944 - give degenerate - handprints. That building + 95 + 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:20,860 + because they couldn't + reach English very well. - 264 - 00:11:56,944 --> 00:11:59,869 - we had nothing to offer. - And so they got busy + 96 + 00:04:20,860 --> 00:04:23,440 + And but then among them there was - 265 - 00:11:59,869 --> 00:12:01,429 - raising money to pay + 97 + 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,470 + one young man who was + glories that converted. - 266 - 00:12:01,429 --> 00:12:03,965 - off that mortgage and - they're paid it off. + 98 + 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:28,795 + His name was that + lake. Sustained grin. - 267 - 00:12:03,965 --> 00:12:06,409 - And then they could - say, Now we'll give + 99 + 00:04:28,795 --> 00:04:31,180 + And he saw you felt deep in - 268 - 00:12:06,409 --> 00:12:09,320 - that building to degenerate - whatever they can do with it. + 100 + 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:33,250 + his heart that he had + great possibilities. - 269 - 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,270 - And that that's a + 101 + 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:37,210 + Otherwise, he saw + the need of having - 270 - 00:12:11,270 --> 00:12:13,310 - clear and gave it to - him. He told paid up. + 102 + 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:38,919 + a training school for - 271 - 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:15,605 - Well then when churches voted, + 103 + 00:04:38,919 --> 00:04:42,130 + Pasteur's training + pastors for the work. - 272 - 00:12:15,605 --> 00:12:17,840 - they voted overwhelmingly to move + 104 + 00:04:42,130 --> 00:04:50,189 + But he came as a sailor boy + to America or something - 273 - 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,120 - the seminary to St. Paul. + 105 + 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:52,009 + in the Swedish young people, - 274 - 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,935 - In 1912, we had terrible - January Conference in Chicago. + 106 + 00:04:52,009 --> 00:04:54,469 + Swedish boys all over the world, - 275 - 00:12:27,935 --> 00:12:30,170 - And they were talking - back and forth, + 107 + 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:57,845 + I guess they see a + ship, have saga. - 276 - 00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:33,770 - hot and heavy and something - like this committee going + 108 + 00:04:57,845 --> 00:05:00,650 + That's sweet poem that + everybody knows. Who should we? - 277 - 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:38,390 - on in New York - afternoon, Watergate. + 109 + 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:02,270 + I remember so well that I - 278 - 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:41,330 - The senators were fighting + 110 + 00:05:02,270 --> 00:05:03,605 + think it's in there where it is. - 279 - 00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:42,980 - yesterday to hear on the radio. + 111 + 00:05:03,605 --> 00:05:05,795 + But this young man was restless. - 280 - 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:45,440 - They call each other well, + 112 + 00:05:05,795 --> 00:05:10,565 + Maybe his name, his residency, - 281 - 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,180 - but they were very hot and heavy. + 113 + 00:05:10,565 --> 00:05:12,049 + he didn't know what's + the matter with - 282 - 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:54,005 - They the 19201912, but - they didn't get anywhere. + 114 + 00:05:12,049 --> 00:05:14,330 + him and he didn't know + what the recipe would be. - 283 - 00:12:54,005 --> 00:12:55,970 - But they voted to - have the converse and + 115 + 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:15,829 + Left would help. And then he saw - 284 - 00:12:55,970 --> 00:12:58,475 - next year in 1913 into Lou, + 116 + 00:05:15,829 --> 00:05:19,820 + a ship in the harbor. + That's the answer. - 285 - 00:12:58,475 --> 00:13:01,130 - and that became the - Peace Conference. + 117 + 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:22,340 + And he made a run + for the shipment, - 286 - 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:02,840 - Oh, and there's a - wonderful spirit + 118 + 00:05:22,340 --> 00:05:25,339 + got on there and actually + kept and it could - 287 - 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,070 - and that got, - remember, I didn't go. + 119 + 00:05:25,339 --> 00:05:27,050 + be on there and stay on and - 288 - 00:13:04,070 --> 00:13:05,945 - He just learned - beside themselves. + 120 + 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:29,105 + have a job and you + save the seeds. + + 121 + 00:05:29,105 --> 00:05:31,025 + Now that's your Lexus. - 289 - 00:13:05,945 --> 00:13:08,810 - Didn't go. But they want to - they were wished he had come. + 122 + 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:32,450 + It when we're talking + about elections. - 290 - 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:14,660 - And then they voted to go right - ahead in the Twin Cities. + 123 + 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:34,325 + Abraham, marvelous person. - 291 - 00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:15,889 - That's a recommendation of + 124 + 00:05:34,325 --> 00:05:37,519 + And he didn't go through + just that experience, - 292 - 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:18,470 - gender conference, - almost two to one. + 125 + 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,295 + but you wanted to go sailing - 293 - 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:21,245 - I don't remember exactly - what the poison the churches + 126 + 00:05:40,295 --> 00:05:42,635 + and there was a ship there too. - 294 - 00:13:21,245 --> 00:13:23,570 - And that and they voted not here + 127 + 00:05:42,635 --> 00:05:44,195 + And he asked his parents, - 295 - 00:13:23,570 --> 00:13:25,580 - to I crashed in this thing. + 128 + 00:05:44,195 --> 00:05:45,800 + got permission from + them and they said, - 296 - 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:27,425 - They call Dr. angstrom + 129 + 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,629 + well, if that is what + you really want to do, - 297 - 00:13:27,425 --> 00:13:29,900 - to be the first - president of the school. + 130 + 00:05:47,629 --> 00:05:49,070 + we're not going to stop you. - 298 - 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:31,729 - Now doctor asked him, + 131 + 00:05:49,070 --> 00:05:50,690 + Pray that the Nordau + bless you wherever - 299 - 00:13:31,729 --> 00:13:33,739 - was a boy who sold newspapers + 132 + 00:05:50,690 --> 00:05:52,505 + you go and take care of you. - 300 - 00:13:33,739 --> 00:13:35,825 - on the streets of Minneapolis. + 133 + 00:05:52,505 --> 00:05:55,459 + And so alexis Adrian became - 301 - 00:13:35,825 --> 00:13:37,309 - He was wonderfully converted to + 134 + 00:05:55,459 --> 00:06:01,379 + ish sailor boy and he's + sale almost seven C's - 302 - 00:13:37,309 --> 00:13:38,629 - enter Dr. Frank Peterson in + 135 + 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:07,250 + the age of 15, I + think this was now, - 303 - 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:42,079 - the meeting saying he - could talk Swedish, + 136 + 00:06:07,250 --> 00:06:08,330 + I like to think of it like say, - 304 - 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:44,255 - but he knew English, of course. + 137 + 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:10,790 + ugliness, going + through three fires. - 305 - 00:13:44,255 --> 00:13:47,389 - And when Dr. Frank Peterson, + 138 + 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:13,865 + One wish a fire when + you wish converted. - 306 - 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:50,809 - who is Chair of President - pasture that church sent Arvin, + 139 + 00:06:13,865 --> 00:06:15,950 + Another which a fire of - 307 - 00:13:50,809 --> 00:13:52,549 - takes him to Chicago to + 140 + 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:18,635 + the Civil War in which + you had a great time. - 308 - 00:13:52,549 --> 00:13:54,830 - the seminary logger - and said to him, + 141 + 00:06:18,635 --> 00:06:22,700 + And the third was that + fire when Chicago Bern, - 309 - 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:56,780 - we can't use you - your canto treaty. + 142 + 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:26,390 + almost Chicago altogether burned. - 310 - 00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:59,315 - How can we use your niche - where you can talk treaty? + 143 + 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:30,560 + But the first fire was this one. - 311 - 00:13:59,315 --> 00:14:01,190 - Frank Peters and - wrote a letter to Dr. + 144 + 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,150 + He wasn't a Christian. - 312 - 00:14:01,190 --> 00:14:04,339 - logging that you just see that + 145 + 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:34,010 + He hadn't accepted + crashes or saver. - 313 - 00:14:04,339 --> 00:14:06,619 - he said if you are - going to send back, + 146 + 00:06:34,010 --> 00:06:36,454 + He was living in what + we would call sin, - 314 - 00:14:06,619 --> 00:14:08,900 - the boys were sent to - you to the seminary. + 147 + 00:06:36,454 --> 00:06:40,100 + and he was in New + York Harbor sleeping. - 315 - 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:12,590 - You better go back to - sweep because I'm English. + 148 + 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:43,654 + In his book, on the + ship in New York Harbor - 316 - 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:16,369 - Well anyway, IIT logo meant well, + 149 + 00:06:43,654 --> 00:06:48,005 + >> And he had a dream. - 317 - 00:14:16,369 --> 00:14:18,785 - he wouldn't quite strong - as I've said put it. + 150 + 00:06:48,005 --> 00:06:49,759 + In the dream you + used on the way to - 318 - 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:22,160 - And but takes from his - trembled Wesley's Swedish now. + 151 + 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:51,289 + some place of amusement, - 319 - 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,660 - He preaches Swedish churches. + 152 + 00:06:51,289 --> 00:06:53,810 + which was clearly considered sin. - 320 - 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:25,970 - He would write it in English and + 153 + 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:56,660 + And he saw a fire come, - 321 - 00:14:25,970 --> 00:14:29,195 - then his wife would helping - translated into Swedish. + 154 + 00:06:56,660 --> 00:07:00,665 + come crawling along + toward a from the right. - 322 - 00:14:29,195 --> 00:14:31,205 - And then he would - preach Swedish issue + 155 + 00:07:00,665 --> 00:07:02,570 + And the lack of it, prayer fire, - 323 - 00:14:31,205 --> 00:14:33,110 - that to wait, you struggle alone. + 156 + 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:03,994 + but it's a mystic fire. - 324 - 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:36,770 - He became pastor of - Chicago when he was 30. + 157 + 00:07:03,994 --> 00:07:05,840 + >> And he saw it coming. + + 158 + 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:07,250 + And he tried his + best to get out of - 325 - 00:14:36,770 --> 00:14:40,084 - And he was missionary around - their four-year gentlemen, + 159 + 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:09,919 + the way and but he just - 326 - 00:14:40,084 --> 00:14:41,105 - but can use 30. + 160 + 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:12,484 + couldn't even outage + a nightmarish hadron - 327 - 00:14:41,105 --> 00:14:42,710 - He was called a - Chicago first year. + 161 + 00:07:12,484 --> 00:07:14,150 + just could move others. - 328 - 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:44,540 - It's a large church - in our conference. + 162 + 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:16,250 + It's coming, it's + coming, it's coming. - 329 - 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:48,200 - And he was the outstanding - pasture in our conference. + 163 + 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:18,409 + And finally he was able just it, - 330 - 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,135 - And he had the - outstanding church. + 164 + 00:07:18,409 --> 00:07:21,245 + it came and just got him + in the side like that. - 331 - 00:14:50,135 --> 00:14:51,500 - He mixed with the leaders in + 165 + 00:07:21,245 --> 00:07:27,680 + And he leaped up and it was + so real and he was awake now, - 332 - 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,270 - Chicago and get ideas, you know, + 166 + 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,145 + but he jumped up and he + bares his side to see. - 333 - 00:14:53,270 --> 00:14:54,859 - the big churches, pastors + 167 + 00:07:31,145 --> 00:07:33,514 + It is still burning. It + was still hot, Jesse, - 334 - 00:14:54,859 --> 00:14:57,170 - there went ten to their meetings. + 168 + 00:07:33,514 --> 00:07:36,560 + and he couldn't see any + sign of it on the body. - 335 - 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:59,900 - And he was very progressive - and revivalist in the church. + 169 + 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,515 + But something deeper + that had happened. - 336 - 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:01,550 - I should just said - we had revivals + 170 + 00:07:39,515 --> 00:07:42,830 + And you read ran out on the + deck and the snowstorm. - 337 - 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:03,770 - and Bethel Academy, - the old Asian. + 171 + 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:45,509 + You've heard of John - 338 - 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:07,834 - And wish we had the largest - missionary volunteer group + 172 + 00:07:45,580 --> 00:07:50,570 + the side kick, John Wesley John. - 339 - 00:15:07,834 --> 00:15:09,529 - in the state university or + 173 + 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,430 + He was a slave driver. - 340 - 00:15:09,529 --> 00:15:11,330 - college that has a - Medical Academy. + 174 + 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,950 + John Newton, he was converted, - 341 - 00:15:11,330 --> 00:15:13,309 - And we had to rely much - things are happening + 175 + 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:56,839 + I believe in a + snowstorm on he was, - 342 - 00:15:13,309 --> 00:15:15,545 - that little Academy I told - you about a while ago. + 176 + 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,329 + he was just a simple + sitting saver, - 343 - 00:15:15,545 --> 00:15:18,859 - And whenever we reached - a 100 and even a 100, + 177 + 00:07:59,329 --> 00:08:03,259 + sinner saved and he would say in, - 344 - 00:15:18,859 --> 00:15:22,550 - we took we took a holiday - when the attendance reached + 178 + 00:08:03,259 --> 00:08:05,390 + in a snowstorm, or + the NYC, the ship. - 345 - 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:26,450 - to pick a hundred two - hundred three hundred habit. + 179 + 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:07,910 + Well now Edwin, which a - 346 - 00:15:26,450 --> 00:15:28,009 - I told that to the fact + 180 + 00:08:07,910 --> 00:08:10,280 + Christian and he was + a warm Christian. - 347 - 00:15:28,009 --> 00:15:31,175 - that told the story - I'm telling you. + 181 + 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,140 + When he came back + home, he had preached - 348 - 00:15:31,175 --> 00:15:35,930 - They would roar - every under revival. + 182 + 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:14,780 + and against a lot of page. - 349 - 00:15:35,930 --> 00:15:39,499 - And we had it Dr. Hicks them - at a commencement said, + 183 + 00:08:14,780 --> 00:08:16,279 + And they send an officer to - 350 - 00:15:39,499 --> 00:15:42,649 - We may say What we will about - the seminar Academy that + 184 + 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:18,080 + check up on what that + young fellow is doing. - 351 - 00:15:42,649 --> 00:15:43,864 - tell you that the academy + 185 + 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,825 + He's drawing people to + homes and preaching. - 352 - 00:15:43,864 --> 00:15:46,025 - emission school for - our conference, + 186 + 00:08:20,825 --> 00:08:22,494 + But he listened. He + couldn't finding - 353 - 00:15:46,025 --> 00:15:47,915 - that's where the - missionaries runoff from + 187 + 00:08:22,494 --> 00:08:24,710 + the matter that memo saying so. - 354 - 00:15:47,915 --> 00:15:51,244 - Outstanding genres all crushed - and a whole bunch of them, + 188 + 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:28,639 + Well, anyway, the Civil + War broke out and - 355 - 00:15:51,244 --> 00:15:54,034 - quite a number of anyway, - Olivia, Jocelyn, therapy, + 189 + 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:32,480 + he joined the Navy and he was - 356 - 00:15:54,034 --> 00:15:57,650 - the retinal array and so on. + 190 + 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,155 + soon became commander a + battleships or warships. - 357 - 00:15:57,650 --> 00:16:00,500 - Now the two schools - came together. + 191 + 00:08:36,155 --> 00:08:37,760 + Was it three or five that - 358 - 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,300 - 90 Put dr. Higgs jump. + 192 + 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,455 + He had commanded? Different ones. - 359 - 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:04,039 - It's just hidden between - the eyes when they, + 193 + 00:08:39,455 --> 00:08:42,184 + You've all you, all of you + have heard of monitor, - 360 - 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:05,840 - when they voted him - to be president. + 194 + 00:08:42,184 --> 00:08:43,580 + monitor the Civil War. - 361 - 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,654 - But he wasn't prepared for + 195 + 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:47,345 + The I and the Swedish + Jbuilder architect - 362 - 00:16:07,654 --> 00:16:10,205 - he said I prepared for the - patch the best I could. + 196 + 00:08:47,345 --> 00:08:49,535 + constructed it into + something new. - 363 - 00:16:10,205 --> 00:16:13,220 - I'm not the man for that. - And he broke down and cried. + 197 + 00:08:49,535 --> 00:08:51,739 + And do you remember the + name of the southern ship - 364 - 00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:15,230 - Muhammad broke down - and cried when they + 198 + 00:08:51,739 --> 00:08:53,840 + that was coming along so strong? - 365 - 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:17,120 - said he was very good. + 199 + 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,370 + I was trying to think of it today - 366 - 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:25,459 - To remember that the - Carlisle tells that, + 200 + 00:08:56,620 --> 00:08:59,540 + with our mirror and + macro micro array. - 367 - 00:16:25,459 --> 00:16:29,359 - well, anyway, he said, + 201 + 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,330 + And the North had nothing + to meet that with. - 368 - 00:16:29,359 --> 00:16:32,000 - I'll accept it, you pray, - and I'll accept it. + 202 + 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:03,710 + You know, here comes out to - 369 - 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,510 - And so he resigned his - find shirts and loved you. + 203 + 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,840 + the DOM monitors + sailing along there. - 370 - 00:16:35,510 --> 00:16:39,855 - Mentioned ten year end + 204 + 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,820 + I saw the picture of + it just yesterday. - 371 - 00:16:39,855 --> 00:16:41,769 - Took over the presidency + 205 + 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:10,310 + I mean, I looked it + up and I'm done. - 372 - 00:16:41,769 --> 00:16:43,135 - where we're going - to have an office. + 206 + 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:12,800 + Well, it was on that + that'll monitor. - 373 - 00:16:43,135 --> 00:16:45,444 - He said that wasn't money - and up in the treasury + 207 + 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,690 + He didn't command, but he + was on it at the time of - 374 - 00:16:45,444 --> 00:16:48,295 - of the school treasure - to go to the next town. + 208 + 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:17,585 + the battle and somebody + else commanded it. - 375 - 00:16:48,295 --> 00:16:53,500 - There were no MIT - Scratch. Oh, no. + 209 + 00:09:17,585 --> 00:09:22,460 + And that bigger ship + fire, fired and hired. - 376 - 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,080 - He before that they - had elected him to + 210 + 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:23,900 + And I don't know how much it hit, - 377 - 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,050 - financial secretary - of the conference. + 211 + 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:26,240 + but it is clenched off + of the iron there. - 378 - 00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:01,240 - So he had traveled in that way. + 212 + 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,890 + And the commander of the - 379 - 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,790 - He left the church and to - do that. And he traveled. + 213 + 00:09:27,890 --> 00:09:30,395 + monetary came right back, + and it came right back. - 380 - 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:05,470 - He visit every church conference + 214 + 00:09:30,395 --> 00:09:33,064 + And the Merrimack + didn't stay very long, - 381 - 00:17:05,470 --> 00:17:06,640 - without taking any vacation. + 215 + 00:09:33,064 --> 00:09:35,555 + decided we'd better + get out of here. - 382 - 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,335 - Took him two or three - years to do that. + 216 + 00:09:35,555 --> 00:09:37,249 + Well, I'm telling + you that to show - 383 - 00:17:08,335 --> 00:17:09,790 - And then he was that man. + 217 + 00:09:37,249 --> 00:09:41,315 + that it was right in + the middle of things. - 384 - 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:11,529 - He was General Secretary for + 218 + 00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:44,315 + And he commanded + several battleships. - 385 - 00:17:11,529 --> 00:17:14,890 - the conference when he was - called to be president. + 219 + 00:09:44,315 --> 00:09:46,999 + But, you know, there's + something deep in his heart - 386 - 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:16,780 - But he was up there in - Duluth and he went to D, + 220 + 00:09:46,999 --> 00:09:50,060 + that was more interesting + than the Navy. - 387 - 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:18,655 - said that I'm not - prepared for this, + 221 + 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:52,265 + Or whenever the + accretion that way. - 388 - 00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:22,470 - but he accepted if he says - you pray and we'll go ahead. + 222 + 00:09:52,265 --> 00:09:54,860 + So he went to the high + commander commoner, - 389 - 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:25,009 - And so he started with - nothing you might say + 223 + 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:57,575 + whoever that top was, an resign. - 390 - 00:17:25,009 --> 00:17:28,565 - except the grace of God - is fake and are paid. + 224 + 00:09:57,575 --> 00:09:59,510 + And you said you're + fooling shade, can you? - 391 - 00:17:28,565 --> 00:17:31,160 - But he started to raise money. + 225 + 00:09:59,510 --> 00:10:01,999 + Foolish? You've got + everything that it - 392 - 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,380 - Oh yes, they bought the campus on + 226 + 00:10:01,999 --> 00:10:05,150 + takes to be a commander + battleship than the Navy, - 393 - 00:17:33,380 --> 00:17:38,000 - smelling six acres - to square blocks. + 227 + 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:07,505 + you'll become a common + or do you know that? + + 228 + 00:10:07,505 --> 00:10:09,350 + Yes. That may be + true, that atrium, - 394 - 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,425 - They're not, they're - oblong though. + 229 + 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:10,954 + but I have a higher calling - 395 - 00:17:39,425 --> 00:17:42,260 - And we could have gotten and - we've got one for nothing. + 230 + 00:10:10,954 --> 00:10:12,830 + something higher fire descended, - 396 - 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:44,075 - I think about the other one. + 231 + 00:10:12,830 --> 00:10:17,130 + as we say somewhat + poetically. And he resign. - 397 - 00:17:44,075 --> 00:17:46,310 - And the real estate man + 232 + 00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:19,760 + And then increasingly he felt - 398 - 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:47,870 - said you can have - the third one too, + 233 + 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,680 + the need should be a training. - 399 - 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:49,520 - if you want to for a low price. + 234 + 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,055 + Swedish pastures came + from Sweden to America. - 400 - 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,155 - And they said, Oh, we'll - never need anymore. + 235 + 00:10:25,055 --> 00:10:26,810 + And as long as + everything was Swedish, - 401 - 00:17:51,155 --> 00:17:53,240 - Or some of the board - that he thought that, + 236 + 00:10:26,810 --> 00:10:28,445 + they got along pretty good. - 402 - 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,130 - you know how lack of vision. + 237 + 00:10:28,445 --> 00:10:30,500 + But it became worse and - 403 - 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:56,480 - But there were five - men in their way. + 238 + 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:34,685 + worse and some of them + didn't have much training. - 404 - 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,030 - They weren't used to - this thing and show. + 239 + 00:10:34,685 --> 00:10:37,235 + So there was a decision + under God to start - 405 - 00:17:59,030 --> 00:18:00,259 - They bought that camp it. But I + 240 + 00:10:37,235 --> 00:10:41,190 + a Swedish Baptist + seminary in Chicago. - 406 - 00:18:00,259 --> 00:18:01,760 - landed right on his own board. + 241 + 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:44,540 + And you've heard many times, - 407 - 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,159 - He had Those are - fighting that thing, + 242 + 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:45,980 + I suppose at Founders Week, - 408 - 00:18:04,159 --> 00:18:06,889 - but it went through and + 243 + 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,679 + that he started with one student, - 409 - 00:18:06,889 --> 00:18:08,599 - then he's tried to raise - money for the seminary, + 244 + 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,725 + and that student was silly. - 410 - 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:11,270 - that little seminary that's - over there in that building. + 245 + 00:10:51,725 --> 00:10:53,690 + And at Founders Week that night, - 411 - 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:13,699 - They raised, I think - there's $30 thousand + 246 + 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:55,160 + and there was a dedication - 412 - 00:18:13,699 --> 00:18:16,070 - had cosh and it is - defined building. + 247 + 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,290 + that was a Canvas symbol + of the history of - 413 - 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:18,349 - And then and then we show + 248 + 00:10:57,290 --> 00:11:00,050 + our school and the + kneeling in prayer - 414 - 00:18:18,349 --> 00:18:20,884 - the conference sold - to a real estate man, + 249 + 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:03,380 + there and so on versus Trump. - 415 - 00:18:20,884 --> 00:18:24,185 - that little Academy - for $20 thousand. + 250 + 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:04,520 + They're kind of a leather is - 416 - 00:18:24,185 --> 00:18:27,395 - That transgender conference - got just see from + 251 + 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,264 + there you had one student for - 417 - 00:18:27,395 --> 00:18:31,880 - Minnesota and from this - end of the line 20 cow. + 252 + 00:11:07,264 --> 00:11:11,840 + a whole semester and + then another one came. - 418 - 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,800 - And I think that that's right. + 253 + 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,090 + I don't remember his + name. Maybe you do. - 419 - 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,540 - And then they raised - money among the church. + 254 + 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:17,135 + Shall we had two students + that first year, - 420 - 00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:36,589 - It's gotta be that - through SHA1 and + 255 + 00:11:17,135 --> 00:11:20,555 + but the whole thing + was a great struggle. - 421 - 00:18:36,589 --> 00:18:37,790 - raise money for the new seminary. + 256 + 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:23,810 + The American leaders + were very generous to - 422 - 00:18:37,790 --> 00:18:40,009 - And I may have one of our own and + 257 + 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:26,060 + the Swedes that I was - 423 - 00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:42,695 - we have going to have - the building of our own. + 258 + 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,030 + showing university for + awhile in the seminary. - 424 - 00:18:42,695 --> 00:18:45,050 - But when we solely - academy building, + 259 + 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:32,540 + I was anxious for orientation + and I enjoyed it very much. - 425 - 00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:47,210 - they said know what wedged - Academy gonna be next year. + 260 + 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:36,650 + But I was in the class + of of the son of one of - 426 - 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:50,390 - This is 19141915, whereas Academy + 261 + 00:11:36,650 --> 00:11:43,085 + the Baptists leadership + at the dais, good speed. - 427 - 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:54,649 - going to go to and so the + 262 + 00:11:43,085 --> 00:11:44,810 + Dr. good speed was one of - 428 - 00:18:54,649 --> 00:18:56,869 - graciously arranged this way + 263 + 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:47,300 + the leaders of the American + Baptist that help. + + 264 + 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:48,844 + And there were other + men like that. - 429 - 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,569 - that the academy - could have clashing + 265 + 00:11:48,844 --> 00:11:50,780 + >> And there were times when he - 430 - 00:18:59,569 --> 00:19:03,380 - that fore noon and + 266 + 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:51,860 + had been married an American - 431 - 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:04,939 - their seminar could - have theirs in + 267 + 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:54,740 + girl and she wasn't too + interested in Swedish work, - 432 - 00:19:04,939 --> 00:19:08,510 - the afternoon and day - that went through. + 268 + 00:11:54,740 --> 00:11:57,935 + but she was gracious and + she didn't run away. - 433 - 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:10,715 - And we did that for two years. + 269 + 00:11:57,935 --> 00:11:59,450 + But, you know, it was difficult - 434 - 00:19:10,715 --> 00:19:12,920 - I think there's two - year, something + 270 + 00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:01,310 + for her from her standpoint. - 435 - 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,765 - like that, maybe a little more. + 271 + 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:03,410 + And sometimes it didn't + have bread to eat. - 436 - 00:19:14,765 --> 00:19:16,280 - My brother called me on the phone + 272 + 00:12:03,410 --> 00:12:06,320 + And you can hear + saying any wife would. - 437 - 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,810 - the other day and - he should Henry, + 273 + 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,105 + Now, why did you leave the Navy? - 438 - 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:20,210 - do you know that - this is a day that + 274 + 00:12:08,105 --> 00:12:09,695 + You were getting a big salary - 439 - 00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:24,875 - nine of the ninth of - May when we moved + 275 + 00:12:09,695 --> 00:12:10,880 + and here we're struggling at - 440 - 00:19:24,875 --> 00:19:26,764 - after the college - building was really + 276 + 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,960 + all and nobody seems to - 441 - 00:19:26,764 --> 00:19:28,910 - the big academy - building was put up. + 277 + 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,985 + care whether anything + happens or not. - 442 - 00:19:28,910 --> 00:19:30,305 - Then when that was finished. + 278 + 00:12:13,985 --> 00:12:18,620 + We can imagine or saying + that and that was true. - 443 - 00:19:30,305 --> 00:19:31,970 - And we can move from - the seminar with + 279 + 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:20,329 + And you've read + wreckage, I suppose, - 444 - 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:34,970 - all our panel shelves and things. + 280 + 00:12:20,329 --> 00:12:22,175 + where there was just + about starving in it. - 445 - 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:36,860 - And all the students - jumped into it as + 281 + 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:25,235 + That came some money + on the school. - 446 - 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:38,720 - a holiday to carry overhaul + 282 + 00:12:25,235 --> 00:12:27,815 + That came a few more + students all the time. - 447 - 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,040 - the magnificent furniture - to that new building, + 283 + 00:12:27,815 --> 00:12:30,900 + Very few though. + And the thing went, - 448 - 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,764 - three story building, + 284 + 00:12:30,909 --> 00:12:35,540 + >> and you may have read in - 449 - 00:19:44,764 --> 00:19:47,255 - which had been the college - building now for years. + 285 + 00:12:35,540 --> 00:12:37,099 + seminary records here of - 450 - 00:19:47,255 --> 00:19:50,645 - It was a nine the MAY - matrices celebration + 286 + 00:12:37,099 --> 00:12:40,250 + eight Winship sort of + rules that he drew up. - 451 - 00:19:50,645 --> 00:19:55,415 - and ninth of May, 1916 or 17. + 287 + 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:41,765 + Poor association there. - 452 - 00:19:55,415 --> 00:19:57,410 - But you haven't oftentime + 288 + 00:12:41,765 --> 00:12:45,215 + You remembered what one + rule was the nicest of all. - 453 - 00:19:57,410 --> 00:19:59,195 - getting the money for - that colleague building? + 289 + 00:12:45,215 --> 00:12:46,640 + Well, anyway, it's this. - 454 - 00:19:59,195 --> 00:20:01,430 - I visited, I was just a teacher. + 290 + 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,820 + He said this is the rule + here in the seminar. - 455 - 00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:04,430 - I visited 50 churches one summer, + 291 + 00:12:49,820 --> 00:12:51,979 + We're breathing, + nobody has high Lord, - 456 - 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:06,650 - among those who - were raising money. + 292 + 00:12:51,979 --> 00:12:53,315 + nobody has King, - 457 - 00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:11,449 - I visited 50 churches and next - summer and hot, you know, + 293 + 00:12:53,315 --> 00:12:55,940 + everybody has a brother + of everybody else. - 458 - 00:20:11,449 --> 00:20:13,280 - I had 5-stage to visit churches, + 294 + 00:12:55,940 --> 00:12:58,294 + And we're working + together and the Lord - 459 - 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,629 - him and I'd be on + 295 + 00:12:58,294 --> 00:13:01,084 + is our Lord and we are, - 460 - 00:20:14,629 --> 00:20:16,399 - those hot branch lines and dust + 296 + 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:04,835 + is whether children + saw that irregular. - 461 - 00:20:16,399 --> 00:20:18,230 - coming in through - the open window. + 297 + 00:13:04,835 --> 00:13:06,529 + And that's one of the foundation - 462 - 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:20,585 - But sort of hace - you wanted it open. + 298 + 00:13:06,529 --> 00:13:08,435 + stones that he started with. - 463 - 00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:22,849 - And then I had a lecture I + 299 + 00:13:08,435 --> 00:13:10,610 + And but it's just so difficult. - 464 - 00:20:22,849 --> 00:20:25,820 - gave everywhere in three, - the three I'd men. + 300 + 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:11,689 + There were times when there was + + 301 + 00:13:11,689 --> 00:13:13,460 + you just had to be discouraged. - 465 - 00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:31,625 - But either three i this i - this i this, i spirit July. + 302 + 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,830 + One time I think you + wrote his resignation. - 466 - 00:20:31,625 --> 00:20:33,710 - And they wonder about - that. I'd be at three. + 303 + 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:19,475 + Many just didn't + descended and so on. - 467 - 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:35,134 - I met one man, + 304 + 00:13:19,475 --> 00:13:23,345 + And then his health broke down. - 468 - 00:20:35,134 --> 00:20:36,725 - officer the war Abidjan, + 305 + 00:13:23,345 --> 00:13:25,714 + Now I mentioned three tires, - 469 - 00:20:36,725 --> 00:20:38,449 - and he said, what's - that fellow lecturing + 306 + 00:13:25,714 --> 00:13:28,445 + fire when he converted + in the dream. - 470 - 00:20:38,449 --> 00:20:39,920 - on his yet communism or shopping? + 307 + 00:13:28,445 --> 00:13:31,804 + And the fire of the Civil War, - 471 - 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,295 - So he goes said, you though, + 308 + 00:13:31,804 --> 00:13:34,309 + which he went to, and + then the Chicago Fire, - 472 - 00:20:43,295 --> 00:20:46,190 - hopefully I've met, but I got so + 309 + 00:13:34,309 --> 00:13:36,619 + just when they gotta + going a little bit than - 473 - 00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:49,264 - tired and after the service + 310 + 00:13:36,619 --> 00:13:39,545 + the Great Chicago Fire + broke out and that reside, - 474 - 00:20:49,264 --> 00:20:51,019 - stay with the pastor and he + 311 + 00:13:39,545 --> 00:13:41,029 + and everybody thought that, that - 475 - 00:20:51,019 --> 00:20:53,030 - never saw anybody really - ill. And so you'd like + 312 + 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:42,710 + in Chicago, Imodium sank. - 476 - 00:20:53,030 --> 00:20:55,460 - to talk to me robots - and we'd have + 313 + 00:13:42,710 --> 00:13:43,924 + He stood on the steps of - 477 - 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,010 - coffee that I couldn't - go to sleep very + 314 + 00:13:43,924 --> 00:13:46,640 + the old Moody Church, + seeing the flames. - 478 - 00:20:58,010 --> 00:21:00,920 - well after the - coffee and the next + 315 + 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,064 + And one set to the other, - 479 - 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,265 - morning at another train - through the dust storms. + 316 + 00:13:48,064 --> 00:13:50,060 + this bounce, the destruction. - 480 - 00:21:04,265 --> 00:21:06,245 - And I've aged 50 churches. + 317 + 00:13:50,060 --> 00:13:53,145 + Chicago Moody had assembled + some things here, - 481 - 00:21:06,245 --> 00:21:08,790 - I sang a solo. + 318 + 00:13:53,145 --> 00:13:54,949 + but no, they said, Ed, can, - 482 - 00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:13,325 - It was Swedish, so yeah, - it's a beautiful thing. + 319 + 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:57,770 + I think that it green, - 483 - 00:21:13,325 --> 00:21:15,650 - People way, hey, the - blood 10-year Yes. + 320 + 00:13:57,770 --> 00:14:00,020 + got together some things - 484 - 00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:17,390 - Step and leaked and T police + 321 + 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:02,825 + to know what you want + to put a signal. - 485 - 00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:19,279 - that tailored in looking into + 322 + 00:14:02,825 --> 00:14:05,419 + And then he was going + across the bridge and or - 486 - 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,009 - your Google stuff akin or + 323 + 00:14:05,419 --> 00:14:08,720 + the Chicago River fire, + we're following along. - 487 - 00:21:22,009 --> 00:21:25,820 - that they telephoned - Mr. Ben translate. + 324 + 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,899 + And finally he got across + time that wouldn't - 488 - 00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:28,339 - We're journeying - through on the way to + 325 + 00:14:11,899 --> 00:14:14,270 + have whichever you had + to climb through potion, - 489 - 00:21:28,339 --> 00:21:31,190 - happiness majorly and depth. + 326 + 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:16,250 + whatever it was it set up there. - 490 - 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:33,710 - And there's one verse - step, might shoot + 327 + 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:17,720 + You finally got to + the other side. - 491 - 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:35,840 - what I knew now that + 328 + 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,585 + You look me a heads + up, their own opinion. - 492 - 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,300 - my chute wouldn't so new - that I was traveling with, + 329 + 00:14:20,585 --> 00:14:25,160 + Just rags or my telework + said that you saved - 493 - 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:39,920 - you know, I guess I give it gives + 330 + 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:31,624 + that spirits a lesson + for us all that well, - 494 - 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,095 - a second shoot anyway - and which ones are good? + 331 + 00:14:31,624 --> 00:14:37,309 + that was the Alexis a grid + he has helped broke down - 495 - 00:21:42,095 --> 00:21:44,690 - And one verses to say it would + 332 + 00:14:37,309 --> 00:14:43,760 + and he resigned and + he went out west. - 496 - 00:21:44,690 --> 00:21:47,915 - be kind of bought up at - Barnard good in years, + 333 + 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,709 + And it's interesting now - 497 - 00:21:47,915 --> 00:21:49,610 - but you may not see it. + 334 + 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:47,330 + he's starting to + photographing gallery. - 498 - 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:51,560 - An snake, you see it. + 335 + 00:14:47,330 --> 00:14:49,700 + They're picking pictures, + photographs from Sony. - 499 - 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,260 - And new blood means respect - bought out your hot. + 336 + 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:54,335 + I do something. His son + became a great sports writer. + + 337 + 00:14:54,335 --> 00:14:59,400 + His son may have heard + that and all of that. - 500 - 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:57,380 - I sit Mitchum, look at - me and you're Watson. + 338 + 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:04,820 + Well then the next one that + they call Can you tell us - 501 - 00:21:57,380 --> 00:21:59,839 - This was an in-depth - look at me and + 339 + 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:09,440 + more about is family + like his wife? - 502 - 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:02,780 - you wonder how it could be - that he's a breadth of drugs. + 340 + 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,300 + Anything more? You + mentioned her or children? - 503 - 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:04,699 - But listen, you haven't seen + 341 + 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:17,810 + How many children? + I I I'm not sure. - 504 - 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:06,770 - the real bribe to suit the width. + 342 + 00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:19,400 + I'm sorry. - 505 - 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:07,880 - This is just about traveling + 343 + 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,170 + Mj Ostrom, - 506 - 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,619 - suit and fit it in because I was + 344 + 00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:22,700 + who wrote the lives of eight - 507 - 00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:13,340 - traveling and I remember they'd - little rags here. Wagner, + 345 + 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,980 + when it's in your + library, you know that. - 508 - 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:19,100 - second suit number two - maybe would be somehow, + 346 + 00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:27,380 + And then if you I know + you don't have much time, - 509 - 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:23,719 - well, so we raise the money - for the college building, + 347 + 00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:28,970 + you can do everything, but that's - 510 - 00:22:23,719 --> 00:22:25,430 - which was the academy billing. + 348 + 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,040 + a complete story of + all the details. - 511 - 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:27,500 - And at o we weren't proud. + 349 + 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,820 + And they were so crowded + per room that the - 512 - 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,884 - There's gymnasium and - they actually food + 350 + 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:36,800 + little boy now I think + that there's all - 513 - 00:22:29,884 --> 00:22:33,560 - shop that heating up - and that was cooking. + 351 + 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,780 + these by slip with the student. - 514 - 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,699 - To teach cooking, there was + 352 + 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:40,505 + When your student all strung, - 515 - 00:22:34,699 --> 00:22:37,130 - a business department - up on the third floor, + 353 + 00:15:40,505 --> 00:15:43,160 + he left the minister sometime + and went into stake. - 516 - 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:40,910 - and I had the English - department all the time all + 354 + 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,710 + Weren't hostile. + Very wonderful man. - 517 - 00:22:40,910 --> 00:22:42,680 - through the years until I went + 355 + 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:47,240 + He wrote histories and churches. - 518 - 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,540 - to Chicago, I'm sure was patched. + 356 + 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,319 + And that Dr. Adrian said + to Mr. Austin Student, - 519 - 00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:45,860 - Then it came back. It got + 357 + 00:15:51,319 --> 00:15:52,639 + You said knife, he + doesn't behave, - 520 - 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:49,729 - a little better job I + 358 + 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,540 + you just give him a spanking + is actually don't hesitate. - 521 - 00:22:49,729 --> 00:22:54,650 - have to do is live - and on this side, + 359 + 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:58,069 + He said When I looked into - 522 - 00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:56,220 - being careless. And on the other, + 360 + 00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:59,989 + the blue eyes or that boy I could - 523 - 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:59,620 - another aspect, I - haven't gotten in + 361 + 00:15:59,989 --> 00:16:02,480 + inspect it will consider - 524 - 00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:06,625 - private plenty to go - to Chicago in 191938. + 362 + 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,655 + that story. I heard + him tell that. - 525 - 00:23:06,625 --> 00:23:09,610 - I had been head of the - English department touches. + 363 + 00:16:04,655 --> 00:16:06,020 + But anyway, she was just said - 526 - 00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:14,380 - It was from 1910 to 1938. + 364 + 00:16:06,020 --> 00:16:09,649 + an American edition + and sympathy there, - 527 - 00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:16,820 - How long? How many? + 365 + 00:16:09,649 --> 00:16:10,730 + there were a little + bit lack of it. - 528 - 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,570 - 28 years. 28 years. + 366 + 00:16:10,730 --> 00:16:12,830 + Although she was + wonderful in a way - 529 - 00:23:19,570 --> 00:23:22,220 - And then we went to Chicago. + 367 + 00:16:12,830 --> 00:16:16,144 + that now it was not + strong physically, - 530 - 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:25,450 - We were riding along their - family and their tent, + 368 + 00:16:16,144 --> 00:16:18,170 + as we understand, he had - 531 - 00:23:25,450 --> 00:23:27,219 - had negotiations back and forth, + 369 + 00:16:18,170 --> 00:16:20,615 + struggled through so + much, so many hardships. - 532 - 00:23:27,219 --> 00:23:29,830 - you know, but I thought - what am I doing? + 370 + 00:16:20,615 --> 00:16:23,105 + And that's a long story + by itself, of course. - 533 - 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:31,750 - Runtime, I do, what am I getting? + 371 + 00:16:23,105 --> 00:16:24,605 + And then the Civil War - 534 - 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:34,120 - Entry go down. - Chicago man told me. + 372 + 00:16:24,605 --> 00:16:26,390 + and then the Chicago + Fire and all of that. - 535 - 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,730 - He said, why don't you go to - Africa and don't go down? + 373 + 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:28,850 + The throne in together + went through that. - 536 - 00:23:36,730 --> 00:23:38,860 - They then Nest head of Chicago + 374 + 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:31,340 + And then he has + helped wrote down and - 537 - 00:23:38,860 --> 00:23:40,390 - Well, don't you beaver ambitious? + 375 + 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:34,730 + he went west Oakland, California. - 538 - 00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:42,549 - I said yeah, but - agouti applicant, + 376 + 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:36,394 + John output Ericsson, - 539 - 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:43,720 - he said, don't do that. + 377 + 00:16:36,394 --> 00:16:39,050 + which Pashto there at the + time, time of his death. - 540 - 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,220 - But we had a - wonderful time there. + 378 + 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:41,674 + On No, he was brought - 541 - 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:46,780 - We did have a lot - of time in Chicago, + 379 + 00:16:41,674 --> 00:16:43,100 + back across the country to - 542 - 00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:48,385 - three years and three months. + 380 + 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:44,660 + a general conference in Chicago. - 543 - 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:51,130 - And then they were going - to elect a president. + 381 + 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:47,120 + That's the last time he + appeared. When was that? - 544 - 00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:54,280 - And a bachelor's had the - inductor vectors editor. + 382 + 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:54,930 + Well, 9019191, night. - 545 - 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,275 - And you should get - your name on there. + 383 + 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:57,800 + We came to a peak of - 546 - 00:23:56,275 --> 00:23:58,690 - Know my name on there. + 384 + 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:05,645 + Kansas in nineteen hundred + nineteen hundred or 191. - 547 - 00:23:58,690 --> 00:24:02,455 - You know, I can I can Xavier. + 385 + 00:17:05,645 --> 00:17:10,220 + He moved to California in about + 1888 or and that's right? - 548 - 00:24:02,455 --> 00:24:05,064 - And anyway well, anyway, + 386 + 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:13,579 + Yes. Yeah. Because at + the turn of the decade, - 549 - 00:24:05,064 --> 00:24:10,974 - it turned out that way and - the whole board could go, + 387 + 00:17:13,579 --> 00:17:15,110 + Dr. logger Grant took over. - 550 - 00:24:10,974 --> 00:24:12,400 - not only the executive board, + 388 + 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:16,895 + Yes. I remember that gate. - 551 - 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,680 - but the whole board of - the conference tool. + 389 + 00:17:16,895 --> 00:17:18,890 + And I figure let me tell + you something do check. - 552 - 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:23,140 - And so it was in where they - had the catherine 1910191940 + 390 + 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:21,230 + Said to my wife. I uncheck + on this on myself. - 553 - 00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:29,050 - comprehension that suddenly - erupt cord yet men and oh, + 391 + 00:17:21,230 --> 00:17:24,030 + So humbling to understand. - 554 - 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:30,909 - my dean appointment, Daniel, + 392 + 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:26,285 + But I don't nobody has children. - 555 - 00:24:30,909 --> 00:24:32,320 - he was the other candidate. + 393 + 00:17:26,285 --> 00:17:28,909 + I thought that boy told us - 556 - 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,300 - And then I went to Canada. + 394 + 00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:33,335 + about they call + luxuriant, who, which he? - 557 - 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,355 - She's never have - to never happened. + 395 + 00:17:33,335 --> 00:17:36,905 + Well, he was a scholar from + Uppsala University in Sweden. - 558 - 00:24:36,355 --> 00:24:43,195 - But do he'd been a lovely - tell him that Well, + 396 + 00:17:36,905 --> 00:17:39,230 + The university, I + suppose you could say. - 559 - 00:24:43,195 --> 00:24:45,760 - I had a kind of - advantage now, you know, + 397 + 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:43,025 + And he was somehow + related to royal blood. - 560 - 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,259 - you're kind of I thought B, + 398 + 00:17:43,025 --> 00:17:44,389 + That's all we'll + say about that will - 561 - 00:24:47,259 --> 00:24:48,730 - all right, the Lord - wanted me do it. + 399 + 00:17:44,389 --> 00:17:46,535 + reunite related to royal blood. - 562 - 00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:51,880 - I wouldn't proud and I - thought if that's what you're + 400 + 00:17:46,535 --> 00:17:50,750 + And it resembled hitting. + Firstname is gusto. - 563 - 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,374 - one my wife and praying about it + 401 + 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:53,029 + And King gusto, they + named him got started - 564 - 00:24:53,374 --> 00:24:55,570 - and it's alright either way. + 402 + 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:56,780 + because he's released + him there. I suppose. - 565 - 00:24:55,570 --> 00:24:57,100 - But I'm scared, scared. + 403 + 00:17:56,780 --> 00:17:59,345 + Atlas, true, you don't + want to spell that out, - 566 - 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,670 - You know, Carlos Caribbean - gave us a good buddy. + 404 + 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,669 + but he, he said, - 567 - 00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:04,215 - Was going to humble - little point but a URI. + 405 + 00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:03,410 + you know, meaning spiritually. - 568 - 00:25:04,215 --> 00:25:08,674 - And so five, Well, + 406 + 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:05,300 + He said to one of the classes - 569 - 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,990 - I was I was chairman - of the ministers show. + 407 + 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,764 + and one of the seven students, - 570 - 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:13,985 - I was on the platform - all that time issue. + 408 + 00:18:06,764 --> 00:18:08,900 + and I've been in + his class, but he - 571 - 00:25:13,985 --> 00:25:16,250 - And then I was vice chairman - of the kind of franchises. + 409 + 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,720 + said he was telling about it's + wonderful to be in Christ. - 572 - 00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:18,155 - And he's told me - when they say it. + 410 + 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,535 + It's wonderful to + be a child of God. - 573 - 00:25:18,155 --> 00:25:20,479 - But of course he knew - his anyway and they + 411 + 00:18:13,535 --> 00:18:15,545 + It's wonderful to have + him in our heart. - 574 - 00:25:20,479 --> 00:25:23,780 - decided who resolution not - to discuss either one. + 412 + 00:18:15,545 --> 00:18:18,695 + And he said, Dick cone and + a blue with the desktop. - 575 - 00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:28,280 - Ohmic compare notes at all - and they're getting away. + 413 + 00:18:18,695 --> 00:18:22,490 + Although there's King's blood + in these veins coursing, - 576 - 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,739 - Well then that, ok, + 414 + 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:26,270 + you said, well that was that + he met spirit to love it. - 577 - 00:25:30,739 --> 00:25:33,320 - then they're going to - vote and add to it. + 415 + 00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:28,235 + The boys thought those + who knew about it. - 578 - 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,930 - And I went down head and - make a call to true basement + 416 + 00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:30,245 + But he had a wonderful mother - 579 - 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:40,170 - left again talking - 70 hooves trimmed. + 417 + 00:18:30,245 --> 00:18:32,405 + and she was a wonderful mother. - 580 - 00:25:41,470 --> 00:25:46,220 - But we went to got cool though. + 418 + 00:18:32,405 --> 00:18:35,149 + Storage that test + bring out, you know, - 581 - 00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:48,019 - But then I thought, well, I think + 419 + 00:18:35,149 --> 00:18:38,450 + and we've asked about that. - 582 - 00:25:48,019 --> 00:25:49,640 - that was definitely - in the voting. + 420 + 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,879 + Well, I tell this + incident now you - 583 - 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,500 - But anyway, I was elected and + 421 + 00:18:40,879 --> 00:18:44,400 + forgive photographer myself, + I never do anything. - 584 - 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,200 - the first one to hit me was - the chairman of the board. + 422 + 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:50,420 + When we run the farm eggs + for $0.05 a dozen we sold. - 585 - 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,549 - He says, when big, + 423 + 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:52,969 + And my mother would sell eggs and - 586 - 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:58,205 - congratulations, you're - the one who repaid. + 424 + 00:18:52,969 --> 00:18:56,270 + butter and by calico + and coffee and sugar. - 587 - 00:25:58,205 --> 00:26:00,289 - And the next one was o Mark + 425 + 00:18:56,270 --> 00:19:00,079 + Now that's the depression + days of the nineties. And - 588 - 00:26:00,289 --> 00:26:02,210 - himself. He rushed over to me. + 426 + 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,674 + OK, again, when he + came to America, - 589 - 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:04,490 - Eugenic antigen grabbed - my hand and she says, + 427 + 00:19:02,674 --> 00:19:04,445 + I remember I was + talking about this - 590 - 00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:07,009 - Congratulations, I'm - glad you're like, well, + 428 + 00:19:04,445 --> 00:19:06,709 + and he said he wanted + to visit the churches, - 591 - 00:26:07,009 --> 00:26:08,239 - that spirit, that spirit on + 429 + 00:19:06,709 --> 00:19:08,150 + Swedish churches in America. - 592 - 00:26:08,239 --> 00:26:12,380 - McDonald's had in cooperation. + 430 + 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:10,475 + There were scattered from + coast to coast by that time. - 593 - 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:14,180 - Then he was passionate - Los Angeles. + 431 + 00:19:10,475 --> 00:19:12,920 + And he was down to + Kansas and he said, - 594 - 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:17,510 - Then we called him to come as - professor to the seminary. + 432 + 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,960 + Oh, it was terribly + warm in Kansas. - 595 - 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:20,180 - And then when Dr. - Carlson patched away + 433 + 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,329 + I came into a room, there's + a guest and I said, - 596 - 00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:24,109 - Carnegie Carlson we - caught in the board, + 434 + 00:19:17,329 --> 00:19:19,729 + Could I have a drink + of water is kind of - 597 - 00:26:24,109 --> 00:26:25,310 - caught him as dean. + 435 + 00:19:19,729 --> 00:19:23,795 + our polytope and the Kaddish + violence he told them. - 598 - 00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:26,480 - So he would deem the seven-year, + 436 + 00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:27,979 + But the dates, I figure this way, - 599 - 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,415 - I think types in seven years. + 437 + 00:19:27,979 --> 00:19:29,719 + if you'll forgive me not mother - 600 - 00:26:28,415 --> 00:26:33,060 - And he's still a wonderful - fellow. Dino mark. + 438 + 00:19:29,719 --> 00:19:31,549 + sent he was going to come + in at the station at - 601 - 00:26:34,270 --> 00:26:37,069 - Well, Higgs Jim took the job and + 439 + 00:19:31,549 --> 00:19:33,800 + whatever hill town lottery grant - 602 - 00:26:37,069 --> 00:26:38,869 - interest and histories - and difficult job, + 440 + 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,630 + and coming out of our + little church there. - 603 - 00:26:38,869 --> 00:26:42,395 - but he carried on and he won - out and the Lord used him. + 441 + 00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:38,780 + And my mother and father sent + Albert, That's a seconds, - 604 - 00:26:42,395 --> 00:26:49,970 - And that's a picture - of depression. + 442 + 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:40,159 + and he was Nixon on older to - 605 - 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:52,280 - Girls were difficult - to your Soyuz. + 443 + 00:19:40,159 --> 00:19:42,515 + my brother Alfred + hits. You know, AJ - 606 - 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,010 - And now the - Depression, of course, + 444 + 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:45,155 + I was five, I + figured occupy them. - 607 - 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:58,130 - money went far, - money went very far. + 445 + 00:19:45,155 --> 00:19:47,599 + And she sent us and + father sent to of - 608 - 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:00,080 - My wife came home from - the grocery store there + 446 + 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:50,960 + course to meet logger + grin at the sub tree. - 609 - 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,255 - and does Israel - near where we live. + 447 + 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,640 + I mean, little country + trained, you know, - 610 - 00:27:02,255 --> 00:27:04,730 - And I print and she - shady, so cheap. + 448 + 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,300 + and she gave us several + extra sale and she said, - 611 - 00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:06,710 - I'm ashamed she should - it showed cheap. + 449 + 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:57,769 + now you voice can have - 612 - 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,480 - I'm ashamed. She mentioned + 450 + 00:19:57,769 --> 00:20:00,350 + this egg to sell + and buy candy for. - 613 - 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,370 - only patient-level - money for everything. + 451 + 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:01,850 + Get $0.05 for genome. - 614 - 00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:13,249 - Depression. And we Dr. Actium + 452 + 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:04,235 + And so we bought candy for $0.05. - 615 - 00:27:13,249 --> 00:27:15,680 - called The faculty - together and you said, + 453 + 00:20:04,235 --> 00:20:09,020 + Well, when we got to the station, - 616 - 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,850 - now I don't know what to do. + 454 + 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:10,700 + we got to town, we + would got Dr. law, - 617 - 00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:18,560 - Issue. I've always had some hope + 455 + 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:17,360 + given he was a very stately + person and dignity scholar. - 618 - 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,570 - before, but I haven't any more. + 456 + 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,985 + And in Sweden, you know, + there's a great Git. - 619 - 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:23,690 - But I don't see you way - out or we had pram eating. + 457 + 00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:25,080 + You don't say you, they say + him use the third person. - 620 - 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:26,240 - Some students had prior mean - each with prayer meeting. + 458 + 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:32,240 + They use it for a little + bit about the new this. - 621 - 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,830 - And then we're going to drop up + 459 + 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,260 + He wants a glass of water. - 622 - 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:30,245 - the prepare to our department. + 460 + 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,974 + That means, you + know, third-person - 623 - 00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:32,974 - Now the junior - colleagues came in, + 461 + 00:20:35,974 --> 00:20:39,050 + menu's done, I remember. - 624 - 00:27:32,974 --> 00:27:35,990 - but the Lord land and - we got kept going. + 462 + 00:20:39,050 --> 00:20:41,670 + And with him was August + Johnson, who was a missionary. - 625 - 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:37,760 - Then the junior - colleague Justice, + 463 + 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:44,359 + Went around or salary just + helping the poor farmers in - 626 - 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,010 - there was a need for the - Academy of those days. + 464 + 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,419 + Western Kansas and getting - 627 - 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:43,310 - There now became that same - need for the junior college. + 465 + 00:20:47,419 --> 00:20:49,415 + what he got a brother in + Chicago. We helped him. - 628 - 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:47,405 - The same need obtained - for the junior college + 466 + 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:50,660 + He's a tailored therapy, - 629 - 00:27:47,405 --> 00:27:53,045 - because now they had high - schools that they didn't have. + 467 + 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:53,555 + but he was in that week + two when we met him. - 630 - 00:27:53,045 --> 00:27:55,325 - He's got used to having. + 468 + 00:20:53,555 --> 00:20:56,900 + And I was I was - 631 - 00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:58,054 - So they didn't go to - high school and then + 469 + 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:58,700 + five years old and I have - 632 - 00:27:58,054 --> 00:28:01,580 - Junior College took care + 470 + 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,890 + had the time and forgive + me for saying this, - 633 - 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,260 - of the first two - years of college. + 471 + 00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,740 + but that little boy that - 634 - 00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:05,164 - And then after having that, + 472 + 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:06,935 + I think is spring spring + bucket, we call it. - 635 - 00:28:05,164 --> 00:28:08,120 - that started got - going good in 1933. + 473 + 00:21:06,935 --> 00:21:09,140 + I was privileged to come to - 636 - 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:12,410 - And then Dino Dean - Carlson was GUI, + 474 + 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:11,150 + the same school where - 637 - 00:28:12,410 --> 00:28:14,255 - some marvelous hello Scott it. + 475 + 00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:13,745 + Dr. long range to be the + dean of the seminary. - 638 - 00:28:14,255 --> 00:28:17,180 - He was a history teacher, - but you can't make KBD. + 476 + 00:21:13,745 --> 00:21:15,640 + We never know when + you see a little boy, - 639 - 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:18,499 - And he had the confidence of + 477 + 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,760 + they're all better than I am. - 640 - 00:28:18,499 --> 00:28:21,335 - the University of Minnesota - and he was marvelous. + 478 + 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,710 + And there's segments, you + never know what's going - 641 - 00:28:21,335 --> 00:28:22,855 - I had these men around me. + 479 + 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:21,410 + to become a euro. + + 480 + 00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:23,975 + That makes the + difference it makes, - 642 - 00:28:22,855 --> 00:28:26,615 - I wouldn't, but they - were, And that's right. + 481 + 00:21:23,975 --> 00:21:26,270 + I read that the + first 12 months of - 643 - 00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:30,290 - And so finally, the - university okayed + 482 + 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:30,304 + a baby is the most important + predators like it makes, - 644 - 00:28:30,290 --> 00:28:35,915 - four years of college - work recognition. + 483 + 00:21:30,304 --> 00:21:31,640 + it makes an impression on him. - 645 - 00:28:35,915 --> 00:28:41,390 - And Danielson, wherever - walter Danielson, + 484 + 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,470 + That's ending whether + he knows it or not. - 646 - 00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:43,609 - who had been missionary - to a sham India, + 485 + 00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:35,810 + And then the article said + that what did it say? - 647 - 00:28:43,609 --> 00:28:45,920 - he was prevailed on to be + 486 + 00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:38,165 + That the father should be with + him as well as the mother? - 648 - 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 - the first dean of - the junior college. + 487 + 00:21:38,165 --> 00:21:39,860 + The father should be + with him half the - 649 - 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,615 - And oh, it was a tough job. + 488 + 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:42,680 + time or the first 12 months, - 650 - 00:28:50,615 --> 00:28:52,670 - Money with short to beat the bet. + 489 + 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,569 + mother the other time + or at the same time, - 651 - 00:28:52,670 --> 00:28:54,395 - He cut down salaries, + 490 + 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:46,625 + it's on it's so important. - 652 - 00:28:54,395 --> 00:28:58,730 - showcases Have I remember - Mr. Norris and said to me, + 491 + 00:21:46,625 --> 00:21:49,280 + Well, you know, - 653 - 00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:00,710 - current dean Karnofsky - button dean. + 492 + 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,245 + children are important. + Intends to kill - 654 - 00:29:00,710 --> 00:29:03,635 - And he said to me he was - sitting in Duluth looking at + 493 + 00:21:51,245 --> 00:21:53,510 + my daughter, Hellen, + whom, you know, - 655 - 00:29:03,635 --> 00:29:05,479 - those figures and I + 494 + 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:54,770 + it's just closing her work now, - 656 - 00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:07,010 - came up to him into Luther - countered per share. + 495 + 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:58,535 + five years teaching the little + children to the church. - 657 - 00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:08,265 - Any shape. Can you tell me? + 496 + 00:21:58,535 --> 00:22:00,110 + He's done a wonderful job. - 658 - 00:29:08,265 --> 00:29:09,920 - I can label in this thing. + 497 + 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:03,079 + So you've done a wonderful + job just closing these days - 659 - 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,600 - They weren't getting - much to start with, + 498 + 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:06,034 + now and she's resigning well, - 660 - 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,570 - then cut half of it to her. + 499 + 00:22:06,034 --> 00:22:07,879 + and she had been in that + work and she's loved we've - 661 - 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:17,555 - And they didn't cut. There's - so much to teach that + 500 + 00:22:07,879 --> 00:22:11,119 + got a huge well, - 662 - 00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:19,370 - he didn't show much. + 501 + 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:18,815 + not Lager came and the + Seminary was in Chicago. - 663 - 00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:21,499 - My brother, nice cut - others because we had + 502 + 00:22:18,815 --> 00:22:21,365 + It had moved to different + places, of course, - 664 - 00:29:21,499 --> 00:29:23,449 - been there so long about + 503 + 00:22:21,365 --> 00:22:24,860 + litres in St. Paul + awhile trumps pretty - 665 - 00:29:23,449 --> 00:29:25,399 - their Wu the school whether + 504 + 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:26,960 + Nebraska file and + they're going to give - 666 - 00:29:25,399 --> 00:29:27,890 - did and then you - mentioned the war. + 505 + 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,255 + them some money if they'd + come there and all of that. - 667 - 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:31,729 - Dave, Swedish Baptist, + 506 + 00:22:29,255 --> 00:22:31,745 + But mainly in Chicago. - 668 - 00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:35,550 - sort of very loyal to - the ward to the war. + 507 + 00:22:31,745 --> 00:22:33,499 + There were three professors, - 669 - 00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,665 - It was a good thing that - Germany was so wicked. + 508 + 00:22:33,499 --> 00:22:36,680 + Dr. logger in Dr. + Sandel, Dr. Hindi. - 670 - 00:29:39,665 --> 00:29:41,450 - That's what made us show night. + 509 + 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,780 + And there was a petition + there for awhile. - 671 - 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:42,920 - And that took place twice. + 510 + 00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:42,530 + Now the generals the American + bread and were very kind. - 672 - 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,850 - You know, i was done - in Iowa for pushed for + 511 + 00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:44,630 + There came a time when + they paid two with - 673 - 00:29:46,850 --> 00:29:50,000 - a weekend for the school + 512 + 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:46,490 + the professors and + the Swedish people. - 674 - 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,780 - and there was a family - there had a big fine Farm. + 513 + 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:48,170 + We paid one profession, - 675 - 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:55,219 - And I don't know - what they had done + 514 + 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:49,984 + we pay log min + salary, real estate, - 676 - 00:29:55,219 --> 00:29:56,479 - to make everybody mad at them + 515 + 00:22:49,984 --> 00:22:54,515 + and then each of the two + got 50, whatever it was. - 677 - 00:29:56,479 --> 00:29:57,650 - if they were holding the envoy + 516 + 00:22:54,515 --> 00:22:57,170 + And maybe Dean got more + of those three with - 678 - 00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:59,510 - from going into the service. + 517 + 00:22:57,170 --> 00:23:00,170 + the professors and everything + was taught in Sweden. - 679 - 00:29:59,510 --> 00:30:05,150 - And they call them slackers, - who they call them yellow. + 518 + 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:02,569 + Chip Koch Lager even + didn't have the - 680 - 00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:06,739 - They came there one night, + 519 + 00:23:02,569 --> 00:23:05,420 + efficient that + wouldn't go forever. - 681 - 00:30:06,739 --> 00:30:09,635 - the neighborhood, and - painted all their buildings. + 520 + 00:23:05,420 --> 00:23:07,190 + He said wanted to their students, - 682 - 00:30:09,635 --> 00:30:12,515 - And the next day he was - going to have an auction. + 521 + 00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:09,125 + don't worry about the + English language. - 683 - 00:30:12,515 --> 00:30:14,374 - And you see how, + 522 + 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:10,490 + Don't try to think. - 684 - 00:30:14,374 --> 00:30:16,100 - I suppose cruel it was. + 523 + 00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:13,520 + You have to. You will never + have to preach in English. - 685 - 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,570 - I mean, it was dirty. + 524 + 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,770 + It's going to be + sweets all the time. - 686 - 00:30:17,570 --> 00:30:18,860 - It was to do that. + 525 + 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:18,185 + He said, well, he that is + like a vision, you know. - 687 - 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,605 - And I don't know what - their vision was, + 526 + 00:23:18,185 --> 00:23:21,110 + And finally, finally he resigned. - 688 - 00:30:21,605 --> 00:30:22,969 - what the reason they - had against him, + 527 + 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:22,415 + He stayed on to long, - 689 - 00:30:22,969 --> 00:30:24,320 - how it turned out. + 528 + 00:23:22,415 --> 00:23:25,810 + many would say I'm membrane + Bethel Church, Minneapolis. - 690 - 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,095 - You were either lacquered - or you went to war. + 529 + 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:27,290 + He and his seminar had - 691 - 00:30:27,095 --> 00:30:30,034 - Now, how students at which - you think Amendment, David, + 530 + 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:29,825 + a commencement that + church that church. - 692 - 00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:32,285 - and we had less students - the seminary could + 531 + 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:33,034 + And my pastor WHO - 693 - 00:30:32,285 --> 00:30:35,630 - go because they were going - into Christian work. + 532 + 00:23:33,034 --> 00:23:35,134 + introduced him or + something and he said, - 694 - 00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:38,449 - And that the students in + 533 + 00:23:35,134 --> 00:23:37,340 + Well, Dr. logging and + won't be with us. - 695 - 00:30:38,449 --> 00:30:42,544 - the academy or in the - college were allowed + 534 + 00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:41,899 + So very long ago that + login got up and he said, - 696 - 00:30:42,544 --> 00:30:46,790 - to be free from the war - if they were lined up + 535 + 00:23:41,899 --> 00:23:43,729 + when it comes time to resign, - 697 - 00:30:46,790 --> 00:30:52,040 - as minister to training - from industry and so on. + 536 + 00:23:43,729 --> 00:23:46,140 + it'll be either will result. - 698 - 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,410 - But our general - conference with oil. + 537 + 00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:52,069 + But even then he had a + pension and he resigned - 699 - 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:55,850 - And then you mentioned - the matter of + 538 + 00:23:52,069 --> 00:23:56,420 + then that live to the age of 75. - 700 - 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:58,490 - fundamentalism. Our - Should you baptise? + 539 + 00:23:56,420 --> 00:23:59,615 + And Qi He never use glasses. - 701 - 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:00,095 - Conferences have always been + 540 + 00:23:59,615 --> 00:24:01,910 + You weren't in these + classes with him? - 702 - 00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:04,175 - fundamental as far as - the Bible's concern. + 541 + 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:03,305 + He never used glasses. - 703 - 00:31:04,175 --> 00:31:07,039 - Maybe they were so - simple that they were, + 542 + 00:24:03,305 --> 00:24:05,389 + He said to me once, + it's a weakness to - 704 - 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,410 - I don't mean that - in any bad sense, + 543 + 00:24:05,389 --> 00:24:07,580 + use flash and it shows + that you're not all there. - 705 - 00:31:09,410 --> 00:31:11,719 - but they just took - the word of God, + 544 + 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:09,815 + It's a weakness to + erode, less inhibited. - 706 - 00:31:11,719 --> 00:31:14,555 - as he says, And believe it. + 545 + 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,795 + He didn't have to use cheaper - 707 - 00:31:14,555 --> 00:31:16,700 - And we can illustrate - that in visualization. + 546 + 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:15,230 + and that mattress + that with lowering. - 708 - 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,420 - We did hygienes spoken. + 547 + 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:20,000 + Now, did you did you ever + hear Ed Goodman Preet? - 709 - 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:22,580 - He's got a band - that he should lie. + 548 + 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,399 + You know, I missed it or I met - 710 - 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,770 - Surely say it. And - that reenter fashion. + 549 + 00:24:22,399 --> 00:24:25,805 + him or when you + watched in Chicago, - 711 - 00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:30,240 - While the whole Bible, you - know that word of God. + 550 + 00:24:25,805 --> 00:24:28,670 + I could've gone, + but my mother and + + 551 + 00:24:28,670 --> 00:24:30,709 + father thought it + wasn't necessarily - 712 - 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:37,430 - Now what do we have for - climate conference? + 552 + 00:24:30,709 --> 00:24:32,780 + that I go and they regret it. - 713 - 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:40,115 - Hasn't tended to be very - contentious though. + 553 + 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:34,430 + A lot of things. You + know, we spent a year - 714 - 00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:43,069 - As it, again, you know, + 554 + 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:36,140 + in sweet mother + ministry children. - 715 - 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:45,680 - they have their - goods to the bush. + 555 + 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:38,180 + My sister and I. She's + 12 and I was ten. - 716 - 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,430 - Contention was about - the school, 1912. + 556 + 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:40,700 + We just went to visit + relatives in Sweden. - 717 - 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:51,590 - They didn't dare - to PIDA committee. + 557 + 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,279 + And she said afterwards + she didn't realize how - 718 - 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:53,810 - My brother even arrows - there and he said, + 558 + 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,679 + much it would mean to + have two years there, - 719 - 00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:55,790 - I won't be appoint a committee - to study this thing. + 559 + 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:46,969 + an excursion to stop cone, - 720 - 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:56,930 - No, no, no, no. + 560 + 00:24:46,969 --> 00:24:48,395 + but, but we didn't go. - 721 - 00:31:56,930 --> 00:31:58,520 - They wouldn't trust any committee + 561 + 00:24:48,395 --> 00:24:51,170 + And the same with this. - 722 - 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,590 - that they finally did - appoint a committee. + 562 + 00:24:51,170 --> 00:24:52,999 + Now, this is in Chicago + and I wanted to go, - 723 - 00:32:00,590 --> 00:32:02,359 - And no, they haven't + 563 + 00:24:52,999 --> 00:24:54,410 + and I don't blame my parents. - 724 - 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,680 - been there's excuse me. - What was the problem? + 564 + 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,719 + But they they said, well, Henry, - 725 - 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,244 - There was, well, - the geographical, + 565 + 00:24:56,719 --> 00:24:59,390 + he can be important that + you should go there. - 726 - 00:32:09,244 --> 00:32:11,600 - it wasn't just that - the faculty in Chicago + 566 + 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:01,640 + And that's when they + introduced him for - 727 - 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,180 - didn't want to leave or - other, that's one thing. + 567 + 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,410 + the last time and it took up - 728 - 00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:17,420 - And that they felt + 568 + 00:25:03,410 --> 00:25:05,300 + an offering as a gift to him. - 729 - 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:19,340 - that we didn't have - anything here much. + 569 + 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:06,830 + I hope it's big, but + I'm afraid it wasn't. - 730 - 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:20,645 - I mean, where are we now? + 570 + 00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:11,915 + Biggest. Should've is now + longer granted. Rushdie, - 731 - 00:32:20,645 --> 00:32:23,360 - Table? They felt that + 571 + 00:25:11,915 --> 00:25:19,685 + and he wish she'll - 732 - 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760 - the American seminary - would let them + 572 + 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,680 + say that she had the + same lectures year - 733 - 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,430 - use Walker Hall, an old building. + 573 + 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,089 + after year and you know who - 734 - 00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:31,579 - And they said that ship + 574 + 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:24,200 + it's easier to teach and yeah, - 735 - 00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:34,265 - the other side shed - with its an overhaul. + 575 + 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,330 + that and they used to say, - 736 - 00:32:34,265 --> 00:32:37,160 - Dr. Robert, earlier he was - on the school committee. + 576 + 00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:30,229 + God forgive me for the paper + on which it was written, - 737 - 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,590 - Robert, he wrote misuse - or that thing that + 577 + 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:31,760 + resume with age and oh, - 738 - 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,150 - the thing you zone - of white elephant + 578 + 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,700 + good theology and so on. - 739 - 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:42,200 - essential. What did they do? + 579 + 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:37,520 + And what was it like + in the classroom? - 740 - 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,850 - Get a tweet, that's - white elephant. + 580 + 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,209 + Well, you didn't see him + when he was very dignified - 741 - 00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:46,340 - And another real estate - man or a builder + 581 + 00:25:41,209 --> 00:25:43,250 + and he was very + courteous to just like - 742 - 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:49,205 - in Evanston who's on - the side of Chicago. + 582 + 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,530 + it should be very courteous. - 743 - 00:32:49,205 --> 00:32:50,615 - He wrote that paper, + 583 + 00:25:45,530 --> 00:25:48,920 + He said once that + commencement, he said, - 744 - 00:32:50,615 --> 00:32:53,360 - let the shoemaker - state with his lashed. + 584 + 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,630 + now when this is over, - 745 - 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,190 - He's a doctor. He - knows how to operate. + 585 + 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:54,035 + I believe that breathe unesco + spring out Watergate tall. - 746 - 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:57,440 - But you don't know anything - about a real-estate shut up? + 586 + 00:25:54,035 --> 00:25:55,864 + Once you, when this is over, - 747 - 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,739 - In other words, that's - what Madison School + 587 + 00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:56,839 + you're going to run away and - 748 - 00:33:00,739 --> 00:33:04,910 - themselves because - they'll have a Ubers. + 588 + 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:58,250 + forget where you've + been all the time. - 749 - 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:07,429 - And but that's the - biggest contention + 589 + 00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:03,260 + I want all of you to come + up and say goodbye to me, - 750 - 00:33:07,429 --> 00:33:09,590 - we've had and it turned out fine. + 590 + 00:26:03,260 --> 00:26:08,330 + farewell for the summer + in a courteous way. - 751 - 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:13,159 - Do that. 1913, which - a peace conference + 591 + 00:26:08,330 --> 00:26:10,445 + And they did them. But + he wanted to thing - 752 - 00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:14,960 - that my brother didn't go. + 592 + 00:26:10,445 --> 00:26:12,980 + done right? And so on. - 753 - 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,429 - I didn't know he was working on + 593 + 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:15,439 + And all the students struggling - 754 - 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,360 - the cattle are going to get from + 594 + 00:26:15,439 --> 00:26:17,479 + for once there two + or three of them, - 755 - 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,515 - the next year or something. + 595 + 00:26:17,479 --> 00:26:19,129 + and that they shouldn't + have done it, - 756 - 00:33:18,515 --> 00:33:20,120 - And they said, Why - does your brother one, + 596 + 00:26:19,129 --> 00:26:20,750 + but they kind of + start little trouble. - 757 - 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,820 - we want to see him and pasture. + 597 + 00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:23,104 + And you went through + that and you said today, - 758 - 00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:24,529 - Hinrich stood up and gave + 598 + 00:26:23,104 --> 00:26:26,150 + and I know what it is to + have students an uprising. - 759 - 00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:26,570 - every part of my brother, - which was out of ij, + 599 + 00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:27,350 + Platinum, my yp, she's - 760 - 00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:30,889 - where he said but only did say + 600 + 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:28,430 + I don't know. I + don't happen to me. - 761 - 00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:35,630 - He said he and my brother were - just close, like brothers, + 601 + 00:26:28,430 --> 00:26:29,450 + I could understood it. - 762 - 00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:37,864 - you know, my brother - which __init__ + 602 + 00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:31,250 + Well, those little + things can happen. - 763 - 00:33:37,864 --> 00:33:39,439 - chert pregnant young people + 603 + 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:33,529 + Uc Irvine might have - 764 - 00:33:39,439 --> 00:33:41,465 - who've been to Sunday - school led the choir. + 604 + 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:36,379 + might have triggered + that. You recall - 765 - 00:33:41,465 --> 00:33:43,249 - And when I came, I became to + 605 + 00:26:36,379 --> 00:26:38,540 + Maybe he wished he would. - 766 - 00:33:43,249 --> 00:33:46,460 - prepare young people - to president. + 606 + 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:40,730 + It was always strongest theology. - 767 - 00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:49,700 - And didn't either - privately saying, + 607 + 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:43,130 + Now, sprite, I know about + strong, I think he's wonderful. - 768 - 00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,409 - alright, began to preach + 608 + 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:44,900 + Have you ever heard of + strong salvage? A big book. - 769 - 00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:52,820 - and travel, and - I'll mention them. + 609 + 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:46,985 + That lecture contains everything. - 770 - 00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:55,009 - But hemorrhage stood - up there and he, + 610 + 00:26:46,985 --> 00:26:50,015 + And that Lindbergh, - 771 - 00:33:55,009 --> 00:33:58,730 - he praised my brother and - nutrition true university about + 611 + 00:26:50,015 --> 00:26:52,985 + you remember that he was + kind of a insurgent. - 772 - 00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:02,359 - true lady wearing stage + 612 + 00:26:52,985 --> 00:26:56,645 + He was one of those boys + club it with a little bit - 773 - 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:03,859 - where each stage we Room and the + 613 + 00:26:56,645 --> 00:27:00,784 + with Dr. Lander whose + mission secretary, - 774 - 00:34:03,859 --> 00:34:05,630 - wonderful family, - they haven't family. + 614 + 00:27:00,784 --> 00:27:02,390 + Pastor Chuck been happening. - 775 - 00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:08,014 - She says she hadn't - got a single fall + 615 + 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:04,369 + Elana, you should tell + us that the coffee table - 776 - 00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:10,459 - and had been quoted that - he was a kind of pellet, + 616 + 00:27:04,369 --> 00:27:06,965 + that NOT who was right. - 777 - 00:34:10,459 --> 00:34:11,870 - would put things across - to do everything. + 617 + 00:27:06,965 --> 00:27:11,375 + There was a final examination + and logarithm said to you, - 778 - 00:34:11,870 --> 00:34:13,280 - Remember who told me? Yes. + 618 + 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:12,859 + Dr. Laura, and say, do + you have to you have - 779 - 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,590 - All he was he was he - had a wonderful patch. + 619 + 00:27:12,859 --> 00:27:16,775 + to take it over again, + didn't goodness. - 780 - 00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:19,895 - All my rebellion was every - Sunday night and so on. + 620 + 00:27:16,775 --> 00:27:18,664 + And our Landry, he was kind of it - 781 - 00:34:19,895 --> 00:34:23,359 - And them, and then they + 621 + 00:27:18,664 --> 00:27:21,575 + senator. He said lot-to-lot grid. - 782 - 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:26,510 - had voted through this thing - then and Kodak to hate them. + 622 + 00:27:21,575 --> 00:27:24,635 + You can either flip + me or not plugged me. - 783 - 00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:27,950 - And then this came on. + 623 + 00:27:24,635 --> 00:27:26,465 + I won't take it over again. - 784 - 00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:29,719 - And then one of the pastors kinda + 624 + 00:27:26,465 --> 00:27:28,205 + Wetland mended wonderfully. - 785 - 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,505 - sore about the whole thing. + 625 + 00:27:28,205 --> 00:27:28,730 + Committee. - 786 - 00:34:31,505 --> 00:34:34,789 - He use sarcasm and he - got up and he said, + 626 + 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:30,470 + He knew he's a good man + to go out on the field. - 787 - 00:34:34,789 --> 00:34:37,729 - Well it's best to send the - school where the people are, + 627 + 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:32,630 + He's a good preacher, + bright color. - 788 - 00:34:37,729 --> 00:34:39,590 - the Buddhist where they + 628 + 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:34,460 + But I said there's - 789 - 00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,800 - either Swedish and I - did a distant elastic, + 629 + 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,080 + a young children are going - 790 - 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,770 - I guess it is best to - celebrate people are the best. + 630 + 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760 + to end up at that coffee table. - 791 - 00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:47,524 - And another pastor - loop, distribute, + 631 + 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,710 + It had reached home and I - 792 - 00:34:47,524 --> 00:34:50,240 - let's not have any That - sarcasm, nice additives. + 632 + 00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:43,130 + thought you were inquiry + a courteous to to to him. - 793 - 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:55,520 - And that fellow squashed - somewhere. It was, + 633 + 00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:45,140 + He wanted you to get that better - 794 - 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,850 - it was forced out of University - of Chicago one allele. + 634 + 00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:48,800 + and you wouldn't submit + to His direction. - 795 - 00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:01,099 - And if they stop, + 635 + 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,770 + He was your supervisor and said, - 796 - 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,870 - they stop the two they had + 636 + 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:54,035 + well now kinda jump. - 797 - 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:04,820 - paid for to professors - and they said, + 637 + 00:27:54,035 --> 00:27:55,910 + You looked at your + watch and we stop here. - 798 - 00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:05,929 - now you're strong - enough to pay for + 638 + 00:27:55,910 --> 00:27:58,070 + We got the students + back in those days - 799 - 00:35:05,929 --> 00:35:07,640 - yourself. That's right. + 639 + 00:27:58,070 --> 00:28:00,784 + were all Greek operative rehab - 800 - 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,540 - And that was one - thing and so forth. + 640 + 00:28:00,784 --> 00:28:04,339 + recalcitrant. That means + that when we start, - 801 - 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:14,509 - But started to say - that the seminary had + 641 + 00:28:04,339 --> 00:28:06,019 + we're still kinda jumping + out of the other sites - 802 - 00:35:14,509 --> 00:35:18,140 - their homes air and they - had two sons and daughters. + 642 + 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:08,015 + are like how do the + Academy started? - 803 - 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:19,625 - Some of them are fine. + 643 + 00:28:08,015 --> 00:28:10,565 + His brother gave me some + highlights to talk about. - 804 - 00:35:19,625 --> 00:35:21,770 - And they loved where they + 644 + 00:28:10,565 --> 00:28:14,465 + I'm shooting and I'm doing well. - 805 - 00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:24,350 - had their connections into - churches and schools. + 645 + 00:28:14,465 --> 00:28:17,510 + It was a 103 Brother. - 806 - 00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:26,720 - And it wasn't beautiful, + 646 + 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:19,595 + Dave said what, what + started as Seminary? - 807 - 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,700 - Morgan Park, it was - beautiful and all of that. + 647 + 00:28:19,595 --> 00:28:21,950 + When I started college, + I started the academies. - 808 - 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:33,650 - But anyway, what happened? + 648 + 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,540 + Huh? That's fine. - 809 - 00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:36,515 - Happened and nitrous, - pretty nearly unanimous. + 649 + 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:26,270 + And it was a January + Conference in Trump's broke. - 810 - 00:35:36,515 --> 00:35:38,570 - Now, when they voted into - Luke, who you there? + 650 + 00:28:26,270 --> 00:28:28,130 + We had some fine + churches down there. - 811 - 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:39,890 - When they voted on - taking money from + 651 + 00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:31,160 + They were faithful country + churches, some of them. - 812 - 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:41,570 - the government for - our school here. + 652 + 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,170 + And they put to me, - 813 - 00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:43,669 - I prayed I was there + 653 + 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:34,399 + and they kind of cringe to - 814 - 00:35:43,669 --> 00:35:46,040 - at the time we had - that on Malmstrom. + 654 + 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:39,125 + give the two main aggressors + we'll call Sunday afternoon. - 815 - 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,765 - I prayed, I said, Lord, + 655 + 00:28:39,125 --> 00:28:42,964 + One was Dr. Frank Peterson, - 816 - 00:35:47,765 --> 00:35:50,315 - whatever way it goes, - this is humbled. + 656 + 00:28:42,964 --> 00:28:45,379 + wonderful man. And the other one - 817 - 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,700 - Whatever way this goes, - Make it two to one, + 657 + 00:28:45,379 --> 00:28:47,360 + was Professor Eric Dr. Erickson, - 818 - 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,130 - so that they won't be any - digital system in this thing. + 658 + 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,650 + Dale, or the seminary. - 819 - 00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:56,570 - So it'll be so overwhelming. + 659 + 00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:52,280 + They didn't tell them what + to say. As I understand it. - 820 - 00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,850 - And it was two to one - in favor of not taking + 660 + 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,249 + They just put them on + for the message and - 821 - 00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:01,115 - government money. - Currently himself. + 661 + 00:28:55,249 --> 00:28:57,230 + got seem to lead so that - 822 - 00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:02,300 - Dr. Len present himself, + 662 + 00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:59,600 + both of them took the same theme, - 823 - 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:06,485 - spoken to the - ministers Minneapolis. + 663 + 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,629 + that we need an + educational institution - 824 - 00:36:06,485 --> 00:36:08,195 - He himself stood there. + 664 + 00:29:02,629 --> 00:29:05,569 + in our conference to + receive our young people, - 825 - 00:36:08,195 --> 00:36:10,565 - He's my boy. He's - in my classroom. + 665 + 00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:07,580 + especially those who call into - 826 - 00:36:10,565 --> 00:36:12,260 - I love him and he loves me. + 666 + 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:09,980 + Christian service, + where they can get - 827 - 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:14,194 - But he said to those ministers, + 667 + 00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:11,269 + not only seminary training, - 828 - 00:36:14,194 --> 00:36:15,755 - you will never get away from it. + 668 + 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:13,715 + which we have at + professional coursing them. - 829 - 00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:17,510 - If you take money - from the government, + 669 + 00:29:13,715 --> 00:29:16,285 + But, but wouldn't + it have been done? - 830 - 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:19,789 - they'll tell you what he said, + 670 + 00:29:16,285 --> 00:29:18,455 + They call it the training + high school and college. - 831 - 00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:23,000 - that he, he didn't make a speech + 671 + 00:29:18,455 --> 00:29:20,060 + And now the Lutherans have - 832 - 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,320 - and they would be the ones + 672 + 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:21,440 + that another + denomination. I haven't. - 833 - 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,690 - you so gracious - doctor encouraged. + 673 + 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,580 + And we are the poorest of all. - 834 - 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:30,290 - And this invite, Dr. Len - crescendo on the platform. + 674 + 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,535 + We're a most efficient, + inefficient. - 835 - 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:31,955 - Climactic Li He shed. + 675 + 00:29:25,535 --> 00:29:28,160 + And it shows that just went - 836 - 00:36:31,955 --> 00:36:36,575 - Now we're going to vote no - on whichever way this go, + 676 + 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,399 + through which God led both + of them to just a GUI, - 837 - 00:36:36,575 --> 00:36:40,415 - whether it goes one way or the - other way, it's all right. + 677 + 00:29:31,399 --> 00:29:35,390 + one with the other in + that theme and show. - 838 - 00:36:40,415 --> 00:36:41,540 - We'll just close. + 678 + 00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:37,099 + They took it up and - 839 - 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:44,150 - Irange have worked - together in prayer. + 679 + 00:29:37,099 --> 00:29:43,250 + they see they wait until + the next year, 1993. - 840 - 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:45,934 - Lord that had beautiful + 680 + 00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:44,779 + And my brother and I was at - 841 - 00:36:45,934 --> 00:36:48,855 - and write in English - from his heart. + 681 + 00:29:44,779 --> 00:29:46,910 + the conference in + 1904 in Kansas City, - 842 - 00:36:48,855 --> 00:36:51,669 - Well, that's good. You mentioned + 682 + 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:49,055 + Missouri, Mr. Pq and - 843 - 00:36:51,669 --> 00:36:56,125 - the strong allegiance to the War. + 683 + 00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:51,994 + we when young people + are working on day two - 844 - 00:36:56,125 --> 00:36:57,940 - Second World War. + 684 + 00:29:51,994 --> 00:29:55,069 + And so the next year, 194, - 845 - 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:01,989 - Wasn't the conference - fairly antiwar + 685 + 00:29:55,069 --> 00:29:57,740 + they appointed a committee + to go ahead with - 846 - 00:37:01,989 --> 00:37:05,830 - during the First World - War on its history? + 686 + 00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:59,240 + that and they just heard - 847 - 00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,629 - And I wonder how does change, + 687 + 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,420 + the address their instructor - 848 - 00:37:07,629 --> 00:37:09,910 - while they were such a - spirit of patriotism + 688 + 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:01,865 + broker, then they acted on it. - 849 - 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:12,430 - sweeping the edu.duke endeavor? + 689 + 00:30:01,865 --> 00:30:04,625 + They reportedly would + acknowledge next year, - 850 - 00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:15,145 - Some, no doubt as I would - be huge, like have some. + 690 + 00:30:04,625 --> 00:30:06,110 + and they appointed a committee. - 851 - 00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:19,330 - But there were such - Illinois Loyalty. + 691 + 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:11,915 + Dr. Robert Earl was on it and + some of the high efficient, - 852 - 00:37:19,330 --> 00:37:22,629 - And now that you even - had to harbor you go + 692 + 00:30:11,915 --> 00:30:14,599 + prominent laymen, as well + as some of the pasture, - 853 - 00:37:22,629 --> 00:37:26,515 - a scant gradations for your - food if they found people. + 693 + 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,865 + that they should + do something about - 854 - 00:37:26,515 --> 00:37:28,285 - One of my best friends URL, + 694 + 00:30:16,865 --> 00:30:20,960 + or inaugurating an academy, - 855 - 00:37:28,285 --> 00:37:29,950 - that lawyer in Chicago, earnest. + 695 + 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,735 + creating an academy where + young people could come. - 856 - 00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:31,320 - He stood up at my wedding. + 696 + 00:30:23,735 --> 00:30:26,060 + Now, hundreds, a deed + for the academy. - 857 - 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,140 - Fairness to England. + 697 + 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:27,890 + Well, there were several needs. - 858 - 00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:36,229 - He, he's a lawyer in - Chicago, Principle Fellow, + 698 + 00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:31,579 + A good many of - 859 - 00:37:36,229 --> 00:37:38,000 - but he was a private officer to + 699 + 00:30:31,579 --> 00:30:32,749 + our churches where in the country - 860 - 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,889 - go around and - chicken at homes and + 700 + 00:30:32,749 --> 00:30:34,370 + and didn't have a + high school there. - 861 - 00:37:39,889 --> 00:37:43,535 - look at they had hidden - away potatoes are a flower. + 701 + 00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:35,989 + You'd have to go + to town anyway in - 862 - 00:37:43,535 --> 00:37:45,965 - And he had carried - a gun, Revolver, + 702 + 00:30:35,989 --> 00:30:37,775 + board to go to high school - 863 - 00:37:45,965 --> 00:37:48,230 - and that she, they, + 703 + 00:30:37,775 --> 00:30:40,729 + and show it be - 864 - 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:49,820 - that that was a crime. + 704 + 00:30:40,729 --> 00:30:41,899 + just the waveform to go to - 865 - 00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:51,380 - You shouldn't harbor food + 705 + 00:30:41,899 --> 00:30:43,774 + St. Paul and go to the academy, - 866 - 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:53,945 - or stone when he called - it store it and so on. + 706 + 00:30:43,774 --> 00:30:45,590 + you'd have to go home anyway. - 867 - 00:37:53,945 --> 00:37:56,600 - But generally - speaking, I would say + 707 + 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:47,014 + And then another thing, - 868 - 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,280 - it and bang it bonds - was almost compulsory. + 708 + 00:30:47,014 --> 00:30:48,679 + they would have that + Christian Fellowship - 869 - 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,799 - I was in big spring, South Dakota + 709 + 00:30:48,679 --> 00:30:50,615 + and a kind of Christian training. - 870 - 00:38:03,799 --> 00:38:06,199 - speaking for the layman + 710 + 00:30:50,615 --> 00:30:52,819 + And basically for those who - 871 - 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,330 - for money for the - college building, + 711 + 00:30:52,819 --> 00:30:55,700 + felt the goddess called him + into Christian service. - 872 - 00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:13,230 - which had been the catabolic - pharmacology billing. And + 712 + 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,010 + And so that thing went + through phi1 into - 873 - 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,745 - they told of a man who came - over from, from Germany. + 713 + 00:30:58,010 --> 00:31:01,985 + Payne Avenue Church + in Kansas City. - 874 - 00:38:18,745 --> 00:38:23,289 - He was chairman of crushers - hearing paper, Jeremy, + 714 + 00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:05,075 + In Kansas City, that was + they appointed a committee. - 875 - 00:38:23,289 --> 00:38:25,570 - and he had made a - lot of money and + 715 + 00:31:05,075 --> 00:31:07,159 + That committee, I + think Robert Urbis, - 876 - 00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:28,525 - an officer went to him - and he said how much. + 716 + 00:31:07,159 --> 00:31:08,705 + chairman. I'm not sure. - 877 - 00:38:28,525 --> 00:38:31,585 - He asked him about his - property and he answered two. + 717 + 00:31:08,705 --> 00:31:10,910 + And I'm sure Dr. + Ekstrom was on it. - 878 - 00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:34,690 - He said How how many cavity - you had? So on, so on. + 718 + 00:31:10,910 --> 00:31:13,565 + Pastured eggs from those + days you'd want to migrate. - 879 - 00:38:34,690 --> 00:38:36,369 - So how much of that - you'll want to + 719 + 00:31:13,565 --> 00:31:17,119 + Pastures are kept + him at 12pm. And - 880 - 00:38:36,369 --> 00:38:39,325 - Antoine Shuangcheng, - that's on software. + 720 + 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760 + they appointed a + committee and that - 881 - 00:38:39,325 --> 00:38:41,054 - You've made it an American made + 721 + 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,725 + committee acted ones that year, - 882 - 00:38:41,054 --> 00:38:43,195 - right here in this - state didn't change. + 722 + 00:31:21,725 --> 00:31:25,040 + 1905 to started Oh, yes. - 883 - 00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:45,069 - And you aren't going - to buy an elaborate + 723 + 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,360 + The resolution. Read it. - 884 - 00:38:45,069 --> 00:38:48,535 - about, I tell you what you do. + 724 + 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,234 + They should call Dr. chord - 885 - 00:38:48,535 --> 00:38:52,900 - You go back to your - homeland, the way of Cain. + 725 + 00:31:28,234 --> 00:31:30,785 + to be first-principle + to the academy. - 886 - 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:57,410 - Leave this here. I'm not saying - that because she did it. + 726 + 00:31:30,785 --> 00:31:32,990 + I haven't mentioned + Dr. guard before, - 887 - 00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:02,030 - And good reasons, you're + 727 + 00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:35,449 + but he was a wonderful + scholar and he was a - 888 - 00:39:02,030 --> 00:39:03,890 - not appreciating that you've - made all their money here. + 728 + 00:31:35,449 --> 00:31:38,480 + wonderful Christian and his + life with beautiful doctor. - 889 - 00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:05,689 - You had opportunities - and yet you set + 729 + 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,329 + I understand that dr. + Gordy's just like a pawn, - 890 - 00:39:05,689 --> 00:39:07,985 - your foot down - against cooperation. + 730 + 00:31:41,329 --> 00:31:43,430 + such a beautiful personality. - 891 - 00:39:07,985 --> 00:39:10,370 - Where then the - Germans said, well, + 731 + 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:45,350 + What Dr. Gore came from Sweden to - 892 - 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:12,994 - what do you want to - do that and said, + 732 + 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:47,629 + move to New York to Brooklyn. - 893 - 00:39:12,994 --> 00:39:16,655 - I want you to buy $40 - thousand abundancy setups. + 733 + 00:31:47,629 --> 00:31:49,699 + >> Professor hit Dean and + we'd later profession - 894 - 00:39:16,655 --> 00:39:17,390 - And he did it. + 734 + 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,830 + the Seminary. He + wished pasture there. - 895 - 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,805 - He did it, he did well. + 735 + 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:55,190 + They had great, reliable + Dr. Gore was defined clean. - 896 - 00:39:19,805 --> 00:39:21,080 - Cz you had those. + 736 + 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:57,710 + Yen man. I don't know what + happened to his father. - 897 - 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,510 - It did one by month and that. + 737 + 00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:59,569 + Never heard of him, + but but I guess she - 898 - 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:25,880 - But most people did. - Who could? Who could? + 738 + 00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:01,865 + had died early. Get + a wonderful mother. - 899 - 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,250 - Every church had a service flag, + 739 + 00:32:01,865 --> 00:32:05,164 + And he was wonderfully converted - 900 - 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,875 - and this isn't very - conspicuous place. + 740 + 00:32:05,164 --> 00:32:10,235 + and he fed lead into Christian + to Christian ministry. - 901 - 00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:33,890 - The 990s annual conference listed + 741 + 00:32:10,235 --> 00:32:13,380 + He was small enough stature, - 902 - 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:36,529 - every single somebody's - Baptist border + 742 + 00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:18,334 + very beautiful, rich hair, - 903 - 00:39:36,529 --> 00:39:38,929 - was in service. So - there was a kind of + 743 + 00:32:18,334 --> 00:32:20,750 + black hair, and everything - 904 - 00:39:38,929 --> 00:39:43,609 - and yet just I had recall - that tax of Anderson + 744 + 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:22,400 + about him is Dr. + Lander's headers. - 905 - 00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:46,880 - and read to us at - our church one time + 745 + 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,629 + There's like a poem, - 906 - 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,945 - a resolution which was made - that was very anti war. + 746 + 00:32:23,629 --> 00:32:28,050 + perfect gentleman in every + way and a brilliant scholar. - 907 - 00:39:50,945 --> 00:39:54,110 - I thought that from the - early part where there were + 747 + 00:32:31,689 --> 00:32:34,164 + >> I want to say something + back here again if I - 908 - 00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:57,485 - some of that other were - anti-war reservoirs. + 748 + 00:32:34,164 --> 00:32:36,290 + get back to well, - 909 - 00:39:57,485 --> 00:39:58,789 - There were these general, + 749 + 00:32:36,290 --> 00:32:38,330 + they in the resolution, - 910 - 00:39:58,789 --> 00:40:01,850 - and I'm just wondering how - they played really well, + 750 + 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:41,675 + they said codec to guard + to be the first-principle. - 911 - 00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:05,660 - but it's real sentiment - was not that well. + 751 + 00:32:41,675 --> 00:32:43,670 + Alright? Neither + were on bare ground. - 912 - 00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:08,030 - I don't think there - will your mind, + 752 + 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:45,635 + Where going to meet what + I'm going to started. - 913 - 00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:10,370 - but yeah, it was a - case of patriotism. + 753 + 00:32:45,635 --> 00:32:47,240 + What else are they going to do? - 914 - 00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:12,559 - But right now it's + 754 + 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,260 + Or they had some good men. - 915 - 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:16,369 - interesting that she had + 755 + 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:50,929 + And that committee + anyway they began to - 916 - 00:40:16,369 --> 00:40:20,900 - Wb right towards the area - during all this time. + 756 + 00:32:50,929 --> 00:32:55,250 + announce at the academy + would start then follow 195, - 917 - 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,020 - What kind of relationships - did the school, + 757 + 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,920 + fall of 195 and the helium Church - 918 - 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:27,440 - and I'm very glad - close really rally. + 758 + 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,060 + Minneapolis from my brother had - 919 - 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,029 - The last years I had - the honor of being + 759 + 00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:00,560 + been for more than 50 years, - 920 - 00:40:29,029 --> 00:40:31,310 - a close friend of - Dr. alienated me. + 760 + 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,539 + essentially could precipitate + it and still a leader - 921 - 00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:32,824 - His last letter to me, + 761 + 00:33:02,539 --> 00:33:05,449 + there in his pad with, + well, anyway, they got, - 922 - 00:40:32,824 --> 00:40:37,009 - you said that I don't - know why it was wonderful + 762 + 00:33:05,449 --> 00:33:09,004 + they got permission to have + this Google in church, - 923 - 00:40:37,009 --> 00:40:41,719 - to she was in his - last letter to me, + 763 + 00:33:09,004 --> 00:33:11,750 + in Sunday School room, + some Bayesians, so on - 924 - 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,880 - I would not see him and - even when he was sick. + 764 + 00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:13,189 + And of course, they started with - 925 - 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,280 - And so what ever happened to me? + 765 + 00:33:13,189 --> 00:33:15,590 + two students like the other did, - 926 - 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,569 - He says, I may not be here + 766 + 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:17,870 + because the other day and anyway, - 927 - 00:40:47,569 --> 00:40:50,930 - La Jolla in all the - years at your school. + 767 + 00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:19,955 + the first graduation, I + had just two Student. - 928 - 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:53,510 - And my school has been - here in the Twin Cities. + 768 + 00:33:19,955 --> 00:33:22,460 + One went to the ministry - 929 - 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:55,219 - We have not found anything to + 769 + 00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:24,005 + and the other went + back to farming. - 930 - 00:40:55,219 --> 00:40:57,709 - criticize your school - either spiritually, + 770 + 00:33:24,005 --> 00:33:25,880 + And I've always thought + of those two as - 931 - 00:40:57,709 --> 00:41:00,725 - Oscar, elastically, we've - had one preferred learning. + 771 + 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,289 + representing the kinda work - 932 - 00:41:00,725 --> 00:41:03,245 - And then he said, we'd - ever happened to me. + 772 + 00:33:27,289 --> 00:33:28,940 + that this group doing right here. - 933 - 00:41:03,245 --> 00:41:04,879 - I belongs to the Lord. Of course, + 773 + 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,114 + Now some are going + to be layman here, - 934 - 00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:06,064 - whatever happens to me, + 774 + 00:33:31,114 --> 00:33:32,885 + you're going to be + Christian layman. - 935 - 00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:08,089 - I want you to - continue to speak to + 775 + 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:35,149 + Some of you who are + students here and some are - 936 - 00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:10,025 - the Northwestern students + 776 + 00:33:35,149 --> 00:33:37,250 + going at the ministry + and the college, - 937 - 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:12,755 - and where we had that privilege. + 777 + 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,784 + especially ministers + to both kind we need, - 938 - 00:41:12,755 --> 00:41:15,170 - And I wish we had + 778 + 00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:41,285 + we need lame and knowledge more - 939 - 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:18,740 - the January Conference here - and we had it in 5246. + 779 + 00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:42,530 + Christian than we administer. - 940 - 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:20,945 - I think this was on the campus. + 780 + 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:45,515 + Sometimes we think, well + anyway, the first graduate, - 941 - 00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:22,850 - And I I was challenged - on a conference. + 781 + 00:33:45,515 --> 00:33:47,239 + but they were there + three years before they - 942 - 00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:24,920 - Chairman 52. Awesome. - But on their way. + 782 + 00:33:47,239 --> 00:33:51,169 + graduate and they fused to, - 943 - 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,844 - And I was chairman twice anyway, + 783 + 00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:52,760 + well, they said We need a whole, - 944 - 00:41:27,844 --> 00:41:31,249 - and we've got Dr. Ryan - and to give a series of + 784 + 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,230 + we need a home of our own. - 945 - 00:41:31,249 --> 00:41:33,334 - talks to the General Conference + 785 + 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:56,345 + Shall we do? Where shall we go? - 946 - 00:41:33,334 --> 00:41:35,330 - and he's drive would - come with him. + 786 + 00:33:56,345 --> 00:33:58,879 + Rather to men and + Payne Avenue Church, - 947 - 00:41:35,330 --> 00:41:37,009 - I said Dr. Riley, + 787 + 00:33:58,879 --> 00:34:00,800 + Saint Paul one gave - 948 - 00:41:37,009 --> 00:41:39,755 - give us give us - victorious life torch. + 788 + 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,529 + $5 thousand to start - 949 - 00:41:39,755 --> 00:41:42,905 - And then I'm going to do - just what you're saying. + 789 + 00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:06,350 + the building of an + academy. It cost eight. - 950 - 00:41:42,905 --> 00:41:45,035 - I want to try not - to talk too long. + 790 + 00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:09,590 + Finally, I guess the + other one was a builder. - 951 - 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:47,210 - We had it in the - hippodrome in February. + 791 + 00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:12,095 + He put it up he was + contracted to put it up. - 952 - 00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:50,930 - She then piggybacked - on their first time. + 792 + 00:34:12,095 --> 00:34:13,610 + Public beach company too. - 953 - 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:51,979 - We had to have it another hall + 793 + 00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:15,980 + And so that's on + character and St. Anthony - 954 - 00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:53,210 - than the hippodrome is built for. + 794 + 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:18,859 + part Carter Avenue + and comb avenue, - 955 - 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:56,509 - The second one, environment + 795 + 00:34:18,859 --> 00:34:20,840 + that building is still there - 956 - 00:41:56,509 --> 00:41:59,150 - was in charge of - reception preparation. + 796 + 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,860 + and it was a wonderful time + when they moved into that - 957 - 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,199 - Keys to wish, you know, + 797 + 00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:26,884 + and shed dished out + when building I want to - 958 - 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,700 - I think like readmission. + 798 + 00:34:26,884 --> 00:34:29,630 + describe that building + upstairs where - 959 - 00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:09,920 - Dr. Riley had some controversies - here via evolution. + 799 + 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:32,659 + 313 small rooms and - 960 - 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,275 - Yes, yes. That's kinda - funny. At times. + 800 + 00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:36,020 + then a washroom at the + end, bathroom or so on. - 961 - 00:42:15,275 --> 00:42:17,029 - He, he was going to speak at + 801 + 00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:40,144 + And those rooms in each one + of those rooms to student, - 962 - 00:42:17,029 --> 00:42:20,240 - the University of Minnesota - and then something happens, + 802 + 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:41,750 + two boys would stay. - 963 - 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,475 - so he couldn't do it. + 803 + 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:45,110 + And they used to say that + they couldn't couldn't chain. - 964 - 00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:25,099 - And the kind of credit - abroad that they turned it + 804 + 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,030 + They had to go outside + to change their minds. - 965 - 00:42:25,099 --> 00:42:29,405 - down and that made it put it - out in English, clear sign. + 805 + 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:49,820 + You heard so small, - 966 - 00:42:29,405 --> 00:42:31,595 - And some president - Kaufmann, he said, + 806 + 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:51,215 + but there's a bit there and - 967 - 00:42:31,595 --> 00:42:34,760 - we'll have him said we were - not rejecting against him. + 807 + 00:34:51,215 --> 00:34:53,420 + maybe a couple little + desk or something. - 968 - 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,770 - I don't know what the - cause of the other wedge. + 808 + 00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:57,650 + And that little building + was very efficient. - 969 - 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:38,809 - And so he arranged to have + 809 + 00:34:57,650 --> 00:35:00,290 + Bethel Academy became famous + all around the neighborhood. - 970 - 00:42:38,809 --> 00:42:41,989 - William Jennings - Bryan to have Dr. + 810 + 00:35:00,290 --> 00:35:02,989 + Their student who refined to and - 971 - 00:42:41,989 --> 00:42:44,930 - Riley and to speak - and announced that + 811 + 00:35:02,989 --> 00:35:05,795 + then on the first floor over + three recitation rooms. - 972 - 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:48,620 - the university so you'd have - a free reign right away. + 812 + 00:35:05,795 --> 00:35:07,909 + And then they're reading + room and then the kind of - 973 - 00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:50,240 - And then something happened. + 813 + 00:35:07,909 --> 00:35:10,730 + private office for the + for the principal. - 974 - 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,980 - Just a doctor, violet + 814 + 00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:18,240 + And then the basement was a + kitchen and a dining room and - 975 - 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:54,049 - Kaufman was pregnant. Uterus has + 815 + 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,030 + washroom and what else? - 976 - 00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:55,880 - rightly or roaster speech. + 816 + 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:27,499 + Basement. They had a + steward, the body club, - 977 - 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,150 - So packed up above the - ceiling with lub dub. + 817 + 00:35:27,499 --> 00:35:29,449 + and they would go up + the country around, - 978 - 00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:03,439 - Amongst the artificial - monkey showed was that + 818 + 00:35:29,449 --> 00:35:31,070 + I Santa Cambridge around and get - 979 - 00:43:03,439 --> 00:43:06,139 - rescue Fred Ryan and + 819 + 00:35:31,070 --> 00:35:33,590 + things for nothing + from the machine up. - 980 - 00:43:06,139 --> 00:43:08,600 - President COP and leapt - up like a gentleman. + 820 + 00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,885 + Things that are potatoes + and all of that. - 981 - 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,294 - He says, I want to apologize, + 821 + 00:35:35,885 --> 00:35:37,910 + And I remember one year - 982 - 00:43:10,294 --> 00:43:11,750 - Dr. Riley, for this. + 822 + 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:40,580 + and they run the + boarding time themself. - 983 - 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:14,570 - It's a prank and - were ashamed of it. + 823 + 00:35:40,580 --> 00:35:46,160 + I remember one year they + meals average $0.11 a meal. - 984 - 00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:16,460 - You said that was well done. + 824 + 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,230 + There's the good old + days, $0.11 a meal. - 985 - 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:25,620 - You've seen in another - debate name was Dr. Schmidt. + 825 + 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:49,490 + And they've got some for nothing. - 986 - 00:43:26,050 --> 00:43:28,519 - Yeah, the name is Dr. Smith of + 826 + 00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:55,295 + And then they they + paid $10 a month. - 987 - 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:30,619 - the speaker or the other side + 827 + 00:35:55,295 --> 00:35:58,610 + Well, Dr. guard was a + first-principle Nonaka. - 988 - 00:43:30,619 --> 00:43:32,420 - of the question about evolution. + 828 + 00:35:58,610 --> 00:36:00,859 + See him yet come walking down - 989 - 00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:34,904 - And he brought a Montague + 829 + 00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:02,600 + carter avenue for Mish. - 990 - 00:43:34,904 --> 00:43:39,490 - rather it's published - match right there. + 830 + 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,820 + Hello, happy block up there. - 991 - 00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:43,450 - And that speaker broader - monkey and rarely leave. + 831 + 00:36:04,820 --> 00:36:08,165 + He wished to perfect gentleman. - 992 - 00:43:43,450 --> 00:43:46,990 - We says, I see, I - see I was mistaken. + 832 + 00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:11,030 + It was spiritual + to the nth degree. - 993 - 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:50,110 - I thought I was going to - speak to Dr. Schmidt, + 833 + 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:16,610 + And then my brother came there + to teach in 1927 or eight. - 994 - 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:51,519 - but now I'm speaking to the Smith + 834 + 00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:21,170 + And I came there in 1987. - 995 - 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:57,670 - Brother's got the government - took the OD is just wrong. + 835 + 00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:22,579 + And I came in 1910, - 996 - 00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:02,830 - And I guess everybody - around them, Dr. Riley was, + 836 + 00:36:22,579 --> 00:36:24,140 + figured out along radiation. - 997 - 00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:05,830 - as I understood it, a great - brand and the labor and + 837 + 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:28,790 + I came in 1910 and I took + over as best I could think. - 998 - 00:44:05,830 --> 00:44:08,815 - the poor in his cargo. + 838 + 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:32,390 + English department, really + good to paste. I English. - 999 - 00:44:08,815 --> 00:44:11,350 - Yes, but he didn't - let him run him. + 839 + 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:34,760 + Nice College couple. + Washington University. - 1000 - 00:44:11,350 --> 00:44:16,610 - He didn't let a running VM - or human friend. All right? + 840 + 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,109 + Kathy I with - 1001 - 00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:20,130 - He was, he was a genius. + 841 + 00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:38,464 + University of Minnesota a + great deal of the time. - 1002 - 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:24,335 - They had a debate in this church + 842 + 00:36:38,464 --> 00:36:40,205 + >> And then elsewhere too. - 1003 - 00:44:24,335 --> 00:44:28,250 - and nobody wish to speak - with those two speakers. + 843 + 00:36:40,205 --> 00:36:42,680 + Well, anyway, the + students repeatedly, - 1004 - 00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:30,349 - And one rally agreed with, + 844 + 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,269 + there were 18 students + than they were - 1005 - 00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:32,210 - and the other one of course, - he didn't agree with. + 845 + 00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:47,120 + 22 and then there + were 39. We had it. - 1006 - 00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:34,970 - And when averaged over, + 846 + 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,820 + And finally, when we moved away, - 1007 - 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:39,350 - nobody was allowed to speak - notion and interests over. + 847 + 00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:55,280 + my brother guard + resigned in 1914. - 1008 - 00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:42,065 - Dr. Riley had been - an estimate to make. + 848 + 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,229 + He was there from - 1009 - 00:44:42,065 --> 00:44:44,360 - And so he got a big announcement. + 849 + 00:36:57,229 --> 00:37:00,170 + 195 to nine that's nine years, + if that if that's right. - 1010 - 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,829 - And then he said, and by the way, + 850 + 00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:02,240 + But you see, he had + prepared for the ministry. - 1011 - 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:47,269 - I'd like to say this, + 851 + 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,715 + He had studied gotta + ductus Luther Seminary. - 1012 - 00:44:47,269 --> 00:44:48,499 - I think I'll take over + 852 + 00:37:04,715 --> 00:37:07,175 + And he studied another colleague, + distinguished scholar. - 1013 - 00:44:48,499 --> 00:44:49,880 - the preacher purse - because he's easy. + 853 + 00:37:07,175 --> 00:37:08,870 + He was brilliant and - 1014 - 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,795 - Stan Lee said wonders - appreciative. + 854 + 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:10,700 + he felt that he trained + for the pasture it - 1015 - 00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:55,460 - And then he went and - covered the whole 6-bit, + 855 + 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,079 + and and not to be pens but - 1016 - 00:44:55,460 --> 00:45:00,080 - took away the flag victory. + 856 + 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,990 + an academy though he + didn't paperwork there. - 1017 - 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,779 - He expressed sided one, + 857 + 00:37:14,990 --> 00:37:17,570 + Nobody was there. Then he - 1018 - 00:45:02,779 --> 00:45:05,675 - I think while I think he - disagreed with both of them. + 858 + 00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:20,239 + was called to New York. + He was in New York, - 1019 - 00:45:05,675 --> 00:45:08,090 - So he says handled - administer versus easiest. + 859 + 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,464 + >> wash my church there and, - 1020 - 00:45:08,090 --> 00:45:09,169 - And likewise that helped, + 860 + 00:37:23,464 --> 00:37:25,940 + and then other churches + there and East. - 1021 - 00:45:09,169 --> 00:45:12,485 - you know, the other - side how many? + 861 + 00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:27,665 + And that was his love. - 1022 - 00:45:12,485 --> 00:45:14,960 - He covered both of them and + 862 + 00:37:27,665 --> 00:37:29,570 + And when he was, later on, - 1023 - 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,330 - got in the what he called - the truth than the matter. + 863 + 00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:30,770 + I'll just mentioned quickly, - 1024 - 00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:22,730 - You're smart. Did you - preach in your rallies? + 864 + 00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:33,215 + when they calling back + to their Seminary, - 1025 - 00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:27,139 - Charity I purchase I - Princeton at the time, + 865 + 00:37:33,215 --> 00:37:37,205 + they almost competitive + become Dr. Robert URL. - 1026 - 00:45:27,139 --> 00:45:30,680 - maybe that pitch duration and - Tabernacle Baptist Church. + 866 + 00:37:37,205 --> 00:37:40,175 + This district takes a jump + ahead, not for a moment. - 1027 - 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,570 - But I preached in 50 churches + 867 + 00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:43,115 + Later on they calling back + to be dean of the seminary. - 1028 - 00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:34,670 - inter-institutional - with smaller Jersey. + 868 + 00:37:43,115 --> 00:37:45,110 + And he felt the pastured + residual work because - 1029 - 00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:37,474 - Yeah, I'm Swedish Baptist, + 869 + 00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:47,030 + you have to be careful and rub. - 1030 - 00:45:37,474 --> 00:45:41,340 - American Baptist, - Presbyterian, Luther, + 870 + 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:49,520 + And Robert or went + to that church. - 1031 - 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:49,460 - Episcopalian ones, and - sometimes junior services. + 871 + 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,669 + Dr. Haig stone was there and they - 1032 - 00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:51,425 - I had an illustration. + 872 + 00:37:52,669 --> 00:37:54,349 + urge the church to release + + 873 + 00:37:54,349 --> 00:37:57,260 + him and he didn't wanna + go, what would you do? - 1033 - 00:45:51,425 --> 00:45:53,135 - We'll close with this shabby, + 874 + 00:37:57,260 --> 00:37:59,390 + They said now there's, + there's wonderful work. - 1034 - 00:45:53,135 --> 00:45:56,375 - This is beautiful, and - they want me to repeat it. + 875 + 00:37:59,390 --> 00:38:02,480 + This is training in + men and this dish is - 1035 - 00:45:56,375 --> 00:45:59,000 - A man was way out in the wilds + 876 + 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,900 + more important than the + bastard, yes or no. - 1036 - 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,475 - of the Northwest United States, + 877 + 00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,090 + And Gordon, you want + to go but he couldn't. - 1037 - 00:46:01,475 --> 00:46:04,009 - and he was all alone, + 878 + 00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:11,900 + He just couldn't get over + their opposition to a stain. - 1038 - 00:46:04,009 --> 00:46:07,890 - working as a pioneer - and he dug a well. - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:29:00 GMT -- request: - method: post - uri: http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/service/caption_captionasset/action/list - body: - encoding: UTF-8 - string: '{"filter":{"entryIdEqual":"1_or91f5dp","objectType":"KalturaAssetFilter"},"ks":"","format":2,"clientTag":"ruby:22-07-27","apiVersion":"18.10.0","kalsig":"7b24f2cbb4cec9a957351e5adb6c5e06"}' - headers: - Accept: - - text/xml - User-Agent: - - rest-client/2.1.0 (darwin21 x86_64) ruby/3.1.2p20 - Content-Type: - - application/json - Content-Length: - - '312' - Accept-Encoding: - - gzip;q=1.0,deflate;q=0.6,identity;q=0.3 - Host: - - www.kaltura.com - response: - status: - code: 200 - message: OK - headers: - Date: - - Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:15 GMT - Content-Type: - - text/xml;charset=UTF-8 - Content-Length: - - '513' - Connection: - - keep-alive - X-Me: - - nvp1-fapi-84r88 - Access-Control-Expose-Headers: - - Server, Content-Length, Content-Range, Date, X-Kaltura, X-Kaltura-Session, - X-Me - X-Kaltura-Session: - - 1536627861, 1717637655 - Access-Control-Allow-Origin: - - "*" - Expires: - - Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:52:00 GMT - Cache-Control: - - no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0 - Pragma: - - no-cache - X-Kaltura: - - cache-key,cache_v3-f0e2c4fdc5063b6146d25057432a9869 - Vary: - - Accept-Encoding - X-Proxy-Me: - - nvp1-front-proxy-green-ng-65f78b6fbb-ngs7d - X-Proxy-Session: - - e6f77e9f458534167245e0a3784b5ac1 - Server: - - Kaltura - body: - encoding: ASCII-8BIT - string: KalturaCaptionAssetListResponse1KalturaCaptionAsset1_dclj4vkj1_or91f5dp136985216670srt1610648615161064861766700Englishen1129011_sl2py66o,1_uhm1ij400.020206928253174 - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:15 GMT -- request: - method: get - uri: http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/service/caption_captionasset/action/serve?captionAssetId=1_dclj4vkj&ks= - body: - encoding: US-ASCII - string: '' - headers: - Accept-Encoding: - - gzip;q=1.0,deflate;q=0.6,identity;q=0.3 - Accept: - - "*/*" - User-Agent: - - Ruby - Host: - - www.kaltura.com - response: - status: - code: 200 - message: OK - headers: - Date: - - Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:15 GMT - Content-Type: - - text/plain;charset=UTF-8 - Content-Length: - - '2738' - Connection: - - keep-alive - X-Me: - - nvp1-fapi-cqspr - Access-Control-Expose-Headers: - - Server, Content-Length, Content-Range, Date, X-Kaltura, X-Kaltura-Session, - X-Me - X-Kaltura-Session: - - 209006763, 1717637655 - Access-Control-Allow-Origin: - - "*" - Expires: - - Sat, 14 Sep 2024 01:34:15 GMT - Cache-Control: - - public, max-age=8640000, max-stale=0 - Pragma: - - '' - X-Kaltura-Acp: - - '1282602' - X-Kaltura: - - cache-key,cache_v3-e702eb0eb205f446f436c040ac2e2b75 - Last-Modified: - - Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:52:00 GMT - Accept-Ranges: - - bytes - Vary: - - Accept-Encoding - X-Proxy-Me: - - nvp1-front-proxy-green-ng-65f78b6fbb-zt9nf - X-Proxy-Session: - - b9b80d214a7b0ce9ba34ad25f09d0ce9 - Server: - - Kaltura - body: - encoding: ASCII-8BIT - string: | - 1 - 00:00:05,570 --> 00:00:09,255 - Hello. Today is July 30th, 1992. + 879 + 00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,609 + You might see it + that way. He loved - 2 - 00:00:09,255 --> 00:00:10,680 - My name is Mark Fry. + 880 + 00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:15,260 + administrate and they loved him. - 3 - 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,260 - I'm a volunteer lawyer - interviewer for + 881 + 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,549 + We came to the chip Greg, - 4 - 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:15,780 - the Khmer archives - project organized by + 882 + 00:38:16,549 --> 00:38:19,700 + he was and one woman who + was pasture and weird - 5 - 00:00:15,780 --> 00:00:16,740 - the Minnesota lawyers + 883 + 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,910 + and I was there and + one woman said to me, - 6 - 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,675 - international human - rights committee. + 884 + 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:24,635 + oh, you should have. + You should have been. - 7 - 00:00:18,675 --> 00:00:22,530 - I'm interviewing chum - runtime and the location + 885 + 00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:27,020 + In those days, it was + Dr. gourd pastor. - 8 - 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:24,645 - of this interview is - cable access studio + 886 + 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:28,610 + If it's just a wonderful she kept - 9 - 00:00:24,645 --> 00:00:27,250 - in Saint Paul, Minnesota. + 887 + 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,320 + saying just so wonderful person, - 10 - 00:00:36,490 --> 00:00:41,225 - Hello, chum Ron. First of all, + 888 + 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,910 + wonderfully, she could say - 11 - 00:00:41,225 --> 00:00:44,780 - where were you born in Cambodia? + 889 + 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:35,015 + the word so wonderful + when gardeners here. - 12 - 00:00:44,780 --> 00:00:49,805 - Home. I was born in - cm and a city is + 890 + 00:38:35,015 --> 00:38:37,520 + When I was called away + from that to be principal, - 13 - 00:00:49,805 --> 00:00:54,965 - not less of Cambodia Care. + 891 + 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,694 + to be dean of the seminary that - 14 - 00:00:54,965 --> 00:00:58,535 - How long did you - live in that locale? + 892 + 00:38:39,694 --> 00:38:42,215 + others have to we're going + to be got going that way. - 15 - 00:00:58,535 --> 00:01:02,150 - I lived a few years - and after that, + 893 + 00:38:42,215 --> 00:38:44,735 + But to, Well then, - 16 - 00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:04,370 - my pattern little bat to live + 894 + 00:38:44,735 --> 00:38:48,350 + now then the two schools united. - 17 - 00:01:04,370 --> 00:01:08,000 - in Cambodia in Metabolic City. + 895 + 00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:50,614 + The seminary in Chicago, - 18 - 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,950 - Ok. How many brothers and - sisters did you have? + 896 + 00:38:50,614 --> 00:38:53,885 + which move by the January + Conference to St. Paul - 19 - 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:21,270 - I have fall. + 897 + 00:38:53,885 --> 00:38:58,190 + and the academy and + disseminate where to unite. - 20 - 00:01:22,570 --> 00:01:26,225 - Fall brought an end to syste. + 898 + 00:38:58,190 --> 00:39:01,125 + They required only academy + education to enter it. - 21 - 00:01:26,225 --> 00:01:30,365 - But right now only to be ally. + 899 + 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:03,470 + In fact, they took them at + first from the eighth grade. - 22 - 00:01:30,365 --> 00:01:32,885 - And one brought us - did in Cambodia + 900 + 00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:04,850 + It came from Sweden. - 23 - 00:01:32,885 --> 00:01:36,455 - and one sister in California. + 901 + 00:39:04,850 --> 00:39:07,940 + And they didn't require + much if they knew the Lord - 24 - 00:01:36,455 --> 00:01:41,090 - Care. What does your - ethnic background? + 902 + 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:09,800 + and wanted to give + me subduing him and - 25 - 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:45,875 - And the Cambodian but - someone pop from Chinese. + 903 + 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 + had some ability and + there were good pasture, - 26 - 00:01:45,875 --> 00:01:49,879 - Okay. What did your father + 904 + 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,415 + say preach a gospel. - 27 - 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:53,675 - and mother do while you - lived in Battambang? + 905 + 00:39:13,415 --> 00:39:15,560 + And so Guard resigned in - 28 - 00:01:53,675 --> 00:01:58,790 - The Apple working - on down business. + 906 + 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,880 + 1914 and went to - 29 - 00:01:58,790 --> 00:02:03,110 - And my mom yes. + 907 + 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,890 + New York as pasture + unto the church at him. - 30 - 00:02:03,110 --> 00:02:06,005 - Dealing as mod of business, + 908 + 00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:23,250 + And then he was called back + as Dean later and so on. - 31 - 00:02:06,005 --> 00:02:08,885 - sounding like it'll say - something like that. + 909 + 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,189 + Now let me close with something - 32 - 00:02:08,885 --> 00:02:13,580 - Okay. Did you you've + 910 + 00:39:28,189 --> 00:39:30,800 + else about ingrain digest + slipped my mind him talking. - 33 - 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:14,990 - spent most of your - time growing up + 911 + 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,564 + So Patch eight Green was + a brilliant scholar, - 34 - 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:16,880 - in Battambang that yes. + 912 + 00:39:34,564 --> 00:39:37,100 + he was a scientific mind. - 35 - 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:25,430 - Okay. Do you remember + 913 + 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,680 + He traveled much as a saver. - 36 - 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:28,145 - when the Khmer Rouge - came to power? + 914 + 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,770 + And it also says in his + book, and I think I'm right, - 37 - 00:02:28,145 --> 00:02:34,800 - And less than April 17th, 1975. + 915 + 00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:46,475 + that he knew 32 + languages somewhat, - 38 - 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,120 - And you were in - Battambang At the time? + 916 + 00:39:46,475 --> 00:39:49,805 + but he could speak + fluently 16 languages. - 39 - 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,475 - No lab lesson. Plumping city. + 917 + 00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:51,994 + Now there's a mind for you, - 40 - 00:02:40,475 --> 00:02:42,140 - Okay. What were you - doing in Phnom Penh + 918 + 00:39:51,994 --> 00:39:55,040 + and I told you about the + commoners saying to him, - 41 - 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:45,950 - sorting and that time I - list the police office, + 919 + 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,119 + the head of the navy said, - 42 - 00:02:45,950 --> 00:02:51,110 - the ok. How long have you - been living in Phnom Penh? + 920 + 00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,695 + you're, you're making a mistake. - 43 - 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:54,200 - Sorry. This amo to - you. Two years. + 921 + 00:39:57,695 --> 00:39:59,749 + You futures before you, - 44 - 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,840 - Okay. What happened when + 922 + 00:39:59,749 --> 00:40:02,210 + a glowing future, + all your ability. - 45 - 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,400 - the Khmer Rouge came to power + 923 + 00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:03,560 + I have another call, sir. - 46 - 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,900 - during those first few days? + 924 + 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,555 + Thank you. But I + have another call. - 47 - 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:05,105 - Do you recall that time? + 925 + 00:40:05,555 --> 00:40:08,600 + And you've heard of + the Rosetta Stone. - 48 - 00:03:05,105 --> 00:03:10,175 - I the first day of April 17, + 926 + 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,780 + That was another stone + like the Rosetta Stone. - 49 - 00:03:10,175 --> 00:03:12,680 - I went to pick up + 927 + 00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:13,340 + I forget what they call it. - 50 - 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,540 - my friend that I live - with them in plumping. + 928 + 00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:15,439 + And the scientists were - 51 - 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:21,830 - From the airport - and boating tongue. + 929 + 00:40:15,439 --> 00:40:19,970 + just were not agreed on some + of the interpretation there. + + 930 + 00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:23,675 + And they heard of Dr. Adrian, - 52 - 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:23,870 - When I came back home, + 931 + 00:40:23,675 --> 00:40:27,559 + he had a miraculous mine - 53 - 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:28,370 - that they will decide - to stay there. + 932 + 00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:31,009 + he did had and just + think his body was, - 54 - 00:03:28,370 --> 00:03:32,390 - And everybody in the neighbor, + 933 + 00:40:31,009 --> 00:40:33,365 + was, was strong and all + these troubles paying. - 55 - 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:34,070 - they start to move because + 934 + 00:40:33,365 --> 00:40:36,770 + And so they sent it + to Dr. Adrian for - 56 - 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:37,100 - the the Camaro soldier asked + 935 + 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:38,810 + his interpretation and he - 57 - 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:41,180 - us to leave the town - only three day. + 936 + 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:41,510 + gave them his interpretation + and they accepted it. - 58 - 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:43,160 - And that times many, + 937 + 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:44,570 + And they got together on they + took his they accepted it. - 59 - 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,070 - many people on the street. + 938 + 00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:47,705 + Put that with no Hudson + Austin's book, I'm sure. - 60 - 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:48,755 - And we cannot get - out from the place. + 939 + 00:40:47,705 --> 00:40:52,894 + So on this quantum + artists to yes, - 61 - 00:03:48,755 --> 00:03:50,180 - So we decide to stay + 940 + 00:40:52,894 --> 00:40:55,310 + he was an artist from you - 62 - 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:54,650 - one night and a house - and a nice morning. + 941 + 00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:58,070 + and that we've had + in the old seminary. - 63 - 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:59,285 - The part everything - It's not all belonging. + 942 + 00:40:58,070 --> 00:40:59,510 + I don't have any here now. - 64 - 00:03:59,285 --> 00:04:02,450 - Take along wet because - I thought that + 943 + 00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:01,459 + Painting that he had + made that had been - 65 - 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:05,930 - we can come back to - the city about 33 day. + 944 + 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:04,790 + made and it can just do + that for recreation. - 66 - 00:04:05,930 --> 00:04:10,430 - So we just take some of - belonging along with that. + 945 + 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:06,800 + Edwin? Oh, yeah. - 67 - 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:17,510 - And the morning of - April 181975, I care. + 946 + 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,025 + There are others that + are still in existence. - 68 - 00:04:17,510 --> 00:04:20,645 - Where did you go when you - whack Phnom Penh, Sorry. + 947 + 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:13,550 + Human persons up his paintings + though we have to push, - 69 - 00:04:20,645 --> 00:04:23,945 - I went with my friend - that I live with them, + 948 + 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:15,245 + will be somewhere + around or maybe more. - 70 - 00:04:23,945 --> 00:04:32,150 - goes south to Japan, + 949 + 00:41:15,245 --> 00:41:17,269 + Yes, there and I'm going to - 71 - 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:41,545 - Bo just across Mekong River - to the is of plumping city. + 950 + 00:41:17,269 --> 00:41:19,910 + restore it and framed properly. - 72 - 00:04:41,545 --> 00:04:44,305 - And then may decide - to stay there. + 951 + 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:21,830 + I was in a home in California - 73 - 00:04:44,305 --> 00:04:48,370 - But generally, we can't - stay because they come + 952 + 00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:23,750 + and staying as guest overnight. - 74 - 00:04:48,370 --> 00:04:49,810 - out or sold yet tried to + 953 + 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,465 + And in Oakland, I + guess it was because - 75 - 00:04:49,810 --> 00:04:52,750 - pause to move - farther and farther. + 954 + 00:41:26,465 --> 00:41:28,399 + the church needs to be - 76 - 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:58,570 - And the when to one - place they call not up + 955 + 00:41:28,399 --> 00:41:30,410 + there and he had a + painting issues. - 77 - 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:05,690 - from about ten kilo meter - from non-being city. + 956 + 00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:35,135 + Just painting was made by + a DC-10 said and I got it. - 78 - 00:05:06,330 --> 00:05:10,450 - At that time, were soldiers - guarding over you or + 957 + 00:41:35,135 --> 00:41:38,629 + I think Peter when he said he'd - 79 - 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:12,040 - were you allowed to move + 958 + 00:41:38,629 --> 00:41:40,400 + been had it there and he didn't - 80 - 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,125 - freely on your own - with your friend? + 959 + 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,170 + seem to need to try + anything like that. - 81 - 00:05:14,125 --> 00:05:17,470 - In my area, they - allow me to go so + 960 + 00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:44,660 + And he said could I thought + that could I buy that? - 82 - 00:05:17,470 --> 00:05:21,310 - only it cannot go - different direction. + 961 + 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:48,620 + Dr. Edgar Paraview and + they'd go ahead and take it. - 83 - 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:24,440 - Okay. What happened - after all of this? + 962 + 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:51,559 + He says, I want anonymous + either with Hamas or whether it - 84 - 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:30,530 - Then? I stay there about - a month and then know, + 963 + 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:56,330 + touches up s'mores has gotten + so they're able to $5. - 85 - 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:33,935 - tend to go back to the city. + 964 + 00:41:56,330 --> 00:41:58,190 + Just gave him the picture. - 86 - 00:05:33,935 --> 00:05:38,225 - And then my friend - and I decide to + 965 + 00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:59,960 + You see? Yes, it was an artist. + + 966 + 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,700 + And what else can + you say about him? - 87 - 00:05:38,225 --> 00:05:41,660 - leave and make decision to + 967 + 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,244 + That he was, he was, - 88 - 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:45,020 - go to the hometown - and his hometown, + 968 + 00:42:03,244 --> 00:42:05,584 + he was a marvelous mine - 89 - 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:50,510 - this is cmd province and - my hometown is bottom bar. + 969 + 00:42:05,584 --> 00:42:11,040 + >> and yet make like this + will start on the other side. - 90 - 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:53,540 - So I wanted to go - to see my pattern. + 970 + 00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:22,979 + Yes, - 91 - 00:05:53,540 --> 00:05:56,385 - Okay. Were you able to + 971 + 00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:41,969 + you see - 92 - 00:05:56,385 --> 00:06:01,080 - to travel to Battambang or - were you stopped beforehand? + 972 + 00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:01,669 + these - 93 - 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:08,510 - I can't stop by the - the tomato soldier to + 973 + 00:44:01,669 --> 00:44:02,820 + two - 94 - 00:06:08,510 --> 00:06:14,690 - stay in one small - village between CMB, + 974 + 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:12,485 + verses - 95 - 00:06:14,690 --> 00:06:18,110 - a province and - combinatorial problem. + 975 + 00:44:12,485 --> 00:44:23,640 + on this side? - 96 - 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:21,660 - They call poem to. + 976 + 00:44:59,770 --> 00:45:01,949 + Hi, - 97 - 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:26,400 - Yeah. 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This time trauma. + 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:08,930 + I think it's time for + us to begin today. 2 - 00:00:17,950 --> 00:00:23,020 - And approximately how - old were you doing? + 00:00:12,210 --> 00:00:14,364 + In the next couple of weeks, 3 - 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:25,014 - They come out of it? + 00:00:14,364 --> 00:00:15,639 + we are going to be 4 - 00:00:25,014 --> 00:00:28,645 - Yeah. That's 20 years old. + 00:00:15,639 --> 00:00:18,519 + shifting gears in the + class and looking 5 - 00:00:28,645 --> 00:00:32,650 - 20. Okay. Now, okay. + 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:22,149 + specific areas of the world and 6 - 00:00:32,650 --> 00:00:37,434 - You were you able to make - it travel to bottom Bond? + 00:00:22,149 --> 00:00:25,300 + using them as case studies to + test some of the biblical, 7 - 00:00:37,434 --> 00:00:40,179 - Did you did you eventually - arrive in Battambang to see + 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:27,790 + theological and historical study 8 - 00:00:40,179 --> 00:00:43,680 - your family or did they - stop you before then? + 00:00:27,790 --> 00:00:29,440 + of mission that we have had up to 9 - 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:51,275 - No. They they try to stop me - and my friend along the way. + 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:36,430 + this in your textbook that came. 10 - 00:00:51,275 --> 00:00:57,395 - But yes, to not lie to them - and make them want to stay + 00:00:36,430 --> 00:00:40,075 + What you will be reading 11 - 00:00:57,395 --> 00:00:59,644 - at a different place like that + 00:00:40,075 --> 00:00:41,440 + in the tale about 12 - 00:00:59,644 --> 00:01:04,220 - because I did not know - any body know relative. + 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,880 + a variety of mission + areas in the world. 13 - 00:01:04,220 --> 00:01:07,715 - So just trying to get away. + 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,130 + Michael Caine has pulled together 14 - 00:01:07,715 --> 00:01:11,495 - But I cannot at that time. + 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:51,769 + the most recent + compilation of what is 15 - 00:01:11,495 --> 00:01:14,975 - That's why the last + 00:00:51,769 --> 00:00:55,370 + going on in the world mission. 16 - 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:19,804 - stop that I stay in - Kampala, Tom problem, + 00:00:55,370 --> 00:00:57,800 + It's not exciting reading, 17 - 00:01:19,804 --> 00:01:24,590 - they call poem to - me that the relay + 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,990 + except if you happen + to be particularly 18 - 00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:30,424 - is separate between same - ramp and couple of thumb. + 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:02,945 + interested in one area + of the world or other. 19 - 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:33,920 - Okay. Now was a village + 00:01:02,945 --> 00:01:08,419 + There's a great + collection of data names, 20 - 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,350 - that was established by the - Khmer Rouge or was this + 00:01:08,419 --> 00:01:10,730 + dates, and so on. 21 - 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:38,419 - an existence because of the - Khmer Rouge came to visit + 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:13,099 + But you should be + familiar with what's 22 - 00:01:38,419 --> 00:01:43,834 - the existing village that - along the highway numbers say. + 00:01:13,099 --> 00:01:14,840 + going on around the world. 23 - 00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:48,845 - Okay. How long did - you remain there? + 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,330 + And cane fills in all + the gaps which we would 24 - 00:01:48,845 --> 00:01:52,264 - I stayed there until - the Vietnamese + 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:20,840 + possibly be able to + capture here in class. 25 - 00:01:52,264 --> 00:01:58,505 - came in January ninth, 1979. + 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,384 + And I encourage you + to read that and 26 - 00:01:58,505 --> 00:02:04,174 - Okay. Whether many Khmer - Rouge soldiers there, + 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:26,944 + read it carefully because 27 - 00:02:04,174 --> 00:02:06,395 - not so many there, + 00:01:26,944 --> 00:01:29,120 + for your own education, 28 - 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:08,225 - but that their latest, + 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,649 + ought to be aware of what 29 - 00:02:08,225 --> 00:02:11,540 - the, at the old place that + 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:34,055 + the Christian church is + doing throughout the world. 30 - 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:19,559 - the commando capture - during 1970 occur. + 00:01:34,055 --> 00:01:35,360 + Not only in terms of 31 - 00:02:19,630 --> 00:02:22,100 - How many, how many of you were + 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,879 + missionaries that we + sent from America, 32 - 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:27,304 - there that were being guarded or, + 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:39,500 + but in terms of many of 33 - 00:02:27,304 --> 00:02:29,795 - or held there by the Khmer Rouge. + 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,929 + the indigenous + movements and so on, 34 - 00:02:29,795 --> 00:02:36,305 - The people that while - alone at that time, + 00:01:41,929 --> 00:01:44,840 + around the world are + some exciting stories of 35 - 00:02:36,305 --> 00:02:40,504 - as I remember, has - about 200 people. + 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,850 + what is happening + in the Church of 36 - 00:02:40,504 --> 00:02:44,300 - And they let us stay there. + 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:49,370 + Jesus Christ in many + areas of the world. 37 - 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:49,220 - And then they put - lay one family one. + 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:51,530 + And I'm a little frightened by 38 - 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:50,420 - How would they call + 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:54,200 + the present trend + within our own country, 39 - 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:54,514 - the old people to leave - with them so they can + 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,915 + particularly among the + younger generations. 40 - 00:02:54,514 --> 00:03:00,560 - provide shout and some - food or material. + 00:01:56,915 --> 00:02:00,049 + Now kind of Neil, + isolationism in America, 41 - 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,915 - A little bit hard - to live with them. + 00:02:00,049 --> 00:02:02,329 + which subtracts us from 42 - 00:03:02,915 --> 00:03:05,884 - Okay. Now, what do you - mean by the wrong people? + 00:02:02,329 --> 00:02:06,395 + our involvement are places + in the world, Latin America. 43 - 00:03:05,884 --> 00:03:08,690 - That mean the people - that live that + 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:09,169 + We see it in our foreign policy 44 - 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:12,200 - the Camaro before the Khmer + 00:02:09,169 --> 00:02:13,670 + of the Cries about arc one + policy from groups in America. 45 - 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,795 - captured the whole Cambodia Care. + 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:17,345 + And many of these voices + are the voices of beyond. 46 - 00:03:14,795 --> 00:03:18,199 - Okay. Were you in a household + 00:02:17,345 --> 00:02:19,940 + I hope that you + aren't captivated, 47 - 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,940 - with another family or with + 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:23,990 + at least in terms of your + Christian outlook by this neil, 48 - 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:22,040 - your friend or who did you ever? + 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:29,975 + isolationism, exciting things + going on in the world. 49 - 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,124 - I live with my friend and - his wife, two children. + 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:32,660 + Are not those going + on in America? 50 - 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:32,390 - Okay. Now, while you - were living here, + 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:35,180 + Many things in other + parts of the world. 51 - 00:03:32,730 --> 00:03:34,930 - do they have you do + 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:36,935 + And I want you to be + familiar with those. 52 - 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:38,335 - work or what did you - do during the day? + 00:02:36,935 --> 00:02:39,905 + That's the reason + for your reading? 53 - 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:40,479 - Yes. They said nato. + 00:02:39,905 --> 00:02:44,690 + K? I'm well aware from + my own reading it 54 - 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:43,405 - Let them right away - then the next day. + 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:48,589 + came that in some instances 55 - 00:03:43,405 --> 00:03:45,760 - Okay. And what kind of - work do they have you? + 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:51,539 + not going to be heavily + stimulate others. You, well, 56 - 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:55,435 - Do? They send me to live with - the to date the bloody car, + 00:02:51,539 --> 00:02:55,315 + I want you to read it unless + in class we are going 57 - 00:03:55,435 --> 00:04:00,280 - like a small stream that - file from the place + 00:02:55,315 --> 00:02:58,974 + to be zeroing in on a series 58 - 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,350 - that they live while - in the flawed I sub + 00:02:58,974 --> 00:03:04,900 + of particular areas + of the world in 59 - 00:04:02,350 --> 00:04:05,979 - L phi to say kilo meter. + 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:07,569 + an attempt to see in a case study 60 - 00:04:05,979 --> 00:04:09,984 - And here were these - irrigation ditches? + 00:03:07,569 --> 00:03:11,530 + some of the larger implications + of mission study itself. 61 - 00:04:09,984 --> 00:04:14,105 - Yeah. Okay. What other kinds - of work do they have you do? + 00:03:11,530 --> 00:03:14,620 + For example, this time Friday, 62 - 00:04:14,105 --> 00:04:16,489 - Just the first time? + 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:19,165 + I hope to look at one or + two specific areas in Asia. 63 - 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:18,589 - Will they introduce us as + 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:22,659 + Next Wednesday, I + wanted to do the same 64 - 00:04:18,589 --> 00:04:21,515 - a No people come to - live in the village + 00:03:22,659 --> 00:03:26,725 + with one or two particular + countries in Africa. 65 - 00:04:21,515 --> 00:04:27,514 - and they tie lake - a very cheerful, + 00:03:26,725 --> 00:03:29,980 + That following Friday, I've 66 - 00:04:27,514 --> 00:04:30,350 - trying to make us happy - to leave with them. + 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:34,229 + invited Charlie D1, + Chippewa Indian 67 - 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:32,494 - And they asked us to help. + 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:36,769 + To come to focus in on 68 - 00:04:32,494 --> 00:04:35,899 - Little whatever they've - been assigned to + 00:03:36,769 --> 00:03:40,579 + mission the Christian church + within the Indian community, 69 - 00:04:35,899 --> 00:04:39,560 - do, Hokkaido will occur. + 00:03:40,579 --> 00:03:42,680 + particularly here in Minnesota. 70 - 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,964 - So we're most of the tasks - agricultural planting? + 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,769 + Charlie d1, if an Indian + himself, as I've mentioned, 71 - 00:04:42,964 --> 00:04:45,919 - Yes. Okay. Today, were you + 00:03:45,769 --> 00:03:48,110 + and he's been acquainted with 72 - 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:49,504 - involved with road construction, - anything like that? + 00:03:48,110 --> 00:03:50,749 + the activities of the + American Indian Movement, 73 - 00:04:49,504 --> 00:04:51,259 - Mostly agricultural tasks? + 00:03:50,749 --> 00:03:52,760 + has been involved with + that in the past. 74 - 00:04:51,259 --> 00:04:55,009 - No. The first three months just + 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,309 + Now, working on the health + needs of the Indians 75 - 00:04:55,009 --> 00:05:00,530 - only taking irrigation - water plan for that place. + 00:03:55,309 --> 00:03:59,280 + in Minneapolis is + a Christian man. 76 - 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:04,519 - And then after three months, + 00:04:01,059 --> 00:04:03,770 + >> Okay, I think we're all set. 77 - 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,160 - they send us mad - because that time is + 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:11,375 + Well, I came in 1910 and + gardeners still there. 78 - 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,294 - the time to plan race. + 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:14,765 + My brother was kind of an + assistant productive guard. 79 - 00:05:10,294 --> 00:05:13,669 - So they send us mat and - we cannot do anymore. + 00:04:14,765 --> 00:04:18,530 + He had charged to the + making the schedules for 80 - 00:05:13,669 --> 00:05:16,970 - I'm going to have to heavy rain. + 00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:20,165 + the students and and 81 - 00:05:16,970 --> 00:05:19,730 - So let's come back to - the village trying to - - 82 - 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:23,399 - plan to help the other - people. Don't care. + 00:04:20,165 --> 00:04:21,680 + different students + had different jobs. + + 82 + 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,479 + They want to get away + early and could they 83 - 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,339 - How, what would be a - typical workday in terms + 00:04:23,479 --> 00:04:25,640 + get the classes personally + in the morning? 84 - 00:05:28,339 --> 00:05:31,220 - of in terms of the amount of - time that you would work, + 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,740 + And one teacher that's + missed Swensen came 85 - 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:33,020 - when would you start - in the morning + 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:29,749 + to St. Paul and she she wanted 86 - 00:05:33,020 --> 00:05:35,060 - and end at the end of the day. + 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:32,420 + to not have to come 87 - 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:38,105 - First year that the - Khmer Rouge took over. + 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:33,619 + early and she wanted to leave 88 - 00:05:38,105 --> 00:05:40,789 - The work hours not really tie + 00:04:33,619 --> 00:04:35,840 + early because she had + something on my brother. 89 - 00:05:40,789 --> 00:05:44,615 - like the old farmer used to work. + 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,629 + He he'd work on act on + that schedule and every 90 - 00:05:44,615 --> 00:05:46,699 - In the morning. We get up, + 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:42,959 + year he got everybody. + It is a miracle 91 - 00:05:46,699 --> 00:05:49,250 - usually have a tiny plate first + 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:48,950 + by the light, be the token + with my big brother. 92 - 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:51,499 - a little bit and start to go to + 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:51,710 + And he has meant I could + tell it to read my books. 93 - 00:05:51,499 --> 00:05:56,915 - the feel about nine AM - and until the sunset. + 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:55,190 + Sometimes they attribute data. 94 - 00:05:56,915 --> 00:06:00,139 - Combat home. Okay. That - was the first year. + 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:58,625 + We just opened it and + remember that influences. 95 - 00:06:00,139 --> 00:06:02,735 - They did things - change after there. + 00:04:58,625 --> 00:05:03,425 + Well anyway, he'd been + went the other way. 96 - 00:06:02,735 --> 00:06:06,050 - And then Neitzsche - years they start + 00:05:03,425 --> 00:05:06,680 + We were working a lot with + little fellow. I was there. 97 - 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:08,839 - to trying to push people to + 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,090 + I was five years, 98 - 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:14,990 - the mall by trying + 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:09,515 + almost five years + younger than he. 99 - 00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:16,399 - to wake up people early in + 00:05:09,515 --> 00:05:12,110 + And he picked up that used + to pick up cigar butts, 100 - 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,934 - the morning and go to the feel. + 00:05:12,110 --> 00:05:13,580 + cigarette butts, kitchen, 101 - 00:06:18,934 --> 00:06:23,315 - Okay. What time do you - think that that was? + 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:14,749 + I used to do with the OT do yet, 102 - 00:06:23,315 --> 00:06:25,549 - When when they would have you + 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:16,145 + maybe probably not though. 103 - 00:06:25,549 --> 00:06:28,504 - sent you out to the - fields to start working? + 00:05:16,145 --> 00:05:17,989 + He picked up a cigar + and I thought it was 104 - 00:06:28,504 --> 00:06:32,509 - Nominee that they don't - have time and I don't know, + 00:05:17,989 --> 00:05:19,730 + going to do that. He + said, Henry with you. 105 - 00:06:32,509 --> 00:06:36,590 - but is it the sunrise on - everybody and need to get up. + 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:22,369 + Promise me one thing what I said, 106 - 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:39,470 - Ok. And was that was that + 00:05:22,369 --> 00:05:24,905 + but that she will + never smoke on age. 107 - 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:41,374 - the way the workday + 00:05:24,905 --> 00:05:27,590 + Now he he could've + done something else. 108 - 00:06:41,374 --> 00:06:43,144 - went for the rest of the - time you were there? + 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:29,719 + You know, top deaths + would and I said, 109 - 00:06:43,144 --> 00:06:45,245 - Sunrise to sunset? - Yeah, absolutely. + 00:05:29,719 --> 00:05:31,025 + sure, I promise you. 110 - 00:06:45,245 --> 00:06:48,740 - Sometime when the out they need + 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:33,799 + Well, I don't know how + strong that promise was, 111 - 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:52,309 - to finish and then - they don't have + 00:05:33,799 --> 00:05:35,570 + but I knew I never + did and never smoked 112 - 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:54,559 - enough time to do the push - that to live at night + 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:37,910 + cigarette smoke smoke cigarettes? 113 - 00:06:54,559 --> 00:06:59,690 - to become home and a little bit, + 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:40,220 + Of course not. But that's + the way he could've led me. 114 - 00:06:59,690 --> 00:07:01,849 - and then we must go back again. + 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,175 + As I say in the book, + he led me down. 115 - 00:07:01,849 --> 00:07:07,130 - Okay. I've heard that, + 00:05:43,175 --> 00:05:46,295 + He led me up and all + the rest of the way. 116 - 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:09,619 - that they would have - educational seminars + 00:05:46,295 --> 00:05:47,600 + He wish he would want to 117 - 00:07:09,619 --> 00:07:12,679 - to to learn the - philosophy of Pol Pot. + 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,550 + encourage them into + everything you've ever done. 118 - 00:07:12,679 --> 00:07:14,750 - Did they do that at, + 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:52,430 + I'm going to quit school, + go to school, you should. 119 - 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:17,180 - at your village where you stayed? + 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:56,990 + Henry and I went and I mean, 120 - 00:07:17,180 --> 00:07:21,350 - Jealously? They do - at the lunchtime. + 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:59,059 + he persuaded me and just all 121 - 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:23,090 - When people have a break. + 00:05:59,059 --> 00:06:01,880 + the way through, + he'd been wonderful. 122 - 00:07:23,090 --> 00:07:25,175 - After eating a little bit, + 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,970 + Well, he came, he + became principal. 123 - 00:07:25,175 --> 00:07:30,889 - the group leader choose - to give some advice + 00:06:04,970 --> 00:06:07,279 + Then after Dr. Gore had left 124 - 00:07:30,889 --> 00:07:32,990 - and trying to ask about + 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,320 + and he loved music, 125 - 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:35,300 - the background for the new people + 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,150 + used to sing songs. + We sing duets. 126 - 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:37,504 - that come to live in the VLA. + 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:13,054 + You can do it on the telephone, 127 - 00:07:37,504 --> 00:07:43,325 - And sometime they do at NIH - after we finished split, + 00:06:13,054 --> 00:06:15,425 + country telephone, + and in the churches. 128 - 00:07:43,325 --> 00:07:46,099 - they obey, asked to - have a meeting to learn + 00:06:15,425 --> 00:06:17,814 + And the first show me saying I'm 129 - 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:49,625 - about the that new philosophy. + 00:06:17,814 --> 00:06:20,134 + inviting some of the song 130 - 00:07:49,625 --> 00:07:51,559 - Was that usually every, + 00:06:20,134 --> 00:06:22,700 + and matter railroads + were saying everywhere. 131 - 00:07:51,559 --> 00:07:54,484 - every day, that that - would take place. + 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:27,440 + And then ten or ending soprano, - 132 - 00:07:54,484 --> 00:07:56,930 - The first years, not every day, + 132 + 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 + I guess Japan or Beijing. 133 - 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:59,945 - but kind like a - almost every week. + 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,540 + And he'd come home from + college, Williams Jr. College. 134 - 00:07:59,945 --> 00:08:01,950 - Okay. + 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:37,159 + We take a long walk and + you tell me everything 135 - 00:08:10,660 --> 00:08:13,054 - Did did they + 00:06:37,159 --> 00:06:39,125 + happened in a school + and everything. 136 - 00:08:13,054 --> 00:08:16,159 - ask you about your - background at all? + 00:06:39,125 --> 00:06:42,680 + He was he was just a terrific + influence in my life. 137 - 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:19,250 - They did. Okay. But I lie. + 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,590 + And I've got that + written up in the book. 138 - 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:21,184 - And what would you tell them? + 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:48,995 + When it came to music + used to sing solos 139 - 00:08:21,184 --> 00:08:26,165 - I told them I was a stone - and they believe it + 00:06:48,995 --> 00:06:52,190 + He was also an athlete who's + on the varsity football team 140 - 00:08:26,165 --> 00:08:28,340 - because I was young - that time and I'm + 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:55,160 + at Williams College + and Kansas City there. 141 - 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:31,160 - not married and I was - not meant at that time. + 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,509 + And so when he became principal, 142 - 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,469 - What would happen if you - told them your background? + 00:06:59,509 --> 00:07:03,590 + the Academy, he could + use those talents. 143 - 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,454 - When I was there - the first few Day, + 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:08,570 + And the organized + every year a may, 144 - 00:08:39,454 --> 00:08:42,050 - the people that I live with, + 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:11,119 + of course, metal Academy gave 145 - 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:46,069 - they told me how to sit, + 00:07:11,119 --> 00:07:12,950 + a concert that twin + city church and we 146 - 00:08:46,069 --> 00:08:51,349 - Why don't tell - everything to truth. + 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:15,035 + were the pet to the + Trinity Church. 147 - 00:08:51,349 --> 00:09:00,620 - And because they have that - family have some feeling, + 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:17,120 + There little opposition + between Chicago 148 - 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:04,415 - one to help us to survive - during that time. + 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,070 + and Cemetery and academy. 149 - 00:09:04,415 --> 00:09:13,354 - So they told her to destroy - all kind of identification. + 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:21,799 + There's kind of a fiction + friction there in 150 - 00:09:13,354 --> 00:09:18,619 - Some work may be that - I brought with us, + 00:07:21,799 --> 00:07:25,190 + a mild way or sheep and they + turn out they pack a chair. 151 - 00:09:18,619 --> 00:09:22,370 - gave to the people that - because they don't + 00:07:25,190 --> 00:07:26,449 + It can never that + contract came out 152 - 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:26,450 - have paper to roll the tobacco. + 00:07:26,449 --> 00:07:27,830 + from Bethel Academy and for 153 - 00:09:26,450 --> 00:09:28,429 - So as good as you - gave it to them, + 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:31,279 + other things for Bethel + Academy. And then 154 - 00:09:28,429 --> 00:09:31,650 - you don't keep it. - That mean safe. + 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:35,630 + he had an amusing and then + his athletic prowess. 155 - 00:09:34,330 --> 00:09:37,730 - If you what about + 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:38,360 + And he was able to lead the + boys athletics and leave 156 - 00:09:37,730 --> 00:09:41,565 - your background would make - them suspicious of you? + 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,285 + the field day athletic. 157 - 00:09:41,565 --> 00:09:43,505 - Would it be because - you were a police? + 00:07:41,285 --> 00:07:44,570 + And he did a great work + and quiet Pele and up. 158 - 00:09:43,505 --> 00:09:46,520 - Policemen and at - Phnom Penh city or or + 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:46,699 + But he yeah, that's 159 - 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,590 - because of your family background + 00:07:46,699 --> 00:07:48,530 + the way he's been IBS + you pretend there for 160 - 00:09:48,590 --> 00:09:49,670 - in terms of your parents + 00:07:48,530 --> 00:07:52,820 + 50 years and more and he's + still a strength in that. 161 - 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:52,940 - were shopkeepers or what - would it be that they are + 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:55,670 + Chair members of the + Board of Trustees 162 - 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:57,140 - the Khmer Rouge would - not like to commando, + 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:58,220 + he picked up on the street + and come to Sunday School. 163 - 00:09:57,140 --> 00:10:00,004 - don't like people in the office. + 00:07:58,220 --> 00:07:59,870 + The man that shipped + in the Sunday School 164 - 00:10:00,004 --> 00:10:03,379 - And also they don't lie to - people that have lice can lie. + 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:02,490 + picked him years ago. 165 - 00:10:03,379 --> 00:10:08,240 - My stop. They all they - accused SLS alike. + 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:06,395 + Tell me a story about that. 166 - 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,209 - Vietnamese, all the ethnic group. + 00:08:06,395 --> 00:08:08,180 + And it's a real all + the way through. 167 - 00:10:14,209 --> 00:10:18,965 - We are not really pill - a 100% Cambodian. + 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:09,889 + I was coming from + some meetings up in 168 - 00:10:18,965 --> 00:10:24,804 - Okay. Your experience there, + 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:14,090 + northern Minnesota and + I was on a bus Sunday 169 - 00:10:24,804 --> 00:10:26,584 - did you yourself, + 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:17,599 + night and Bush was almost + empty and I show how to get 170 - 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:29,120 - were you ever subjected - to physical abuse + 00:08:17,599 --> 00:08:18,950 + on the bus kind of 171 - 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,320 - or abused in any way while - you were in the village? + 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:21,290 + drunk and another fellow + saying goodbye to him. 172 - 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,575 - Boat? They have physical abuse, + 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:23,480 + And I kind of hope + selfishly you wouldn't sit 173 - 00:10:39,575 --> 00:10:45,125 - have a mentally or - mental abuse. He had. + 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,409 + down drug or clinic Christian, 174 - 00:10:45,125 --> 00:10:48,110 - The Khmer Rouge tend to + 00:08:27,409 --> 00:08:29,720 + you know, and he 175 - 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:51,080 - eliminate the people from + 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,600 + came and said that + brings you to pull out. 176 - 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,869 - the city because they accuse us. + 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,960 + His players have a + great favor, vacuous. 177 - 00:10:57,060 --> 00:11:02,080 - A strange person that - never were and a farm and + 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,294 + And he took it pretty soon again, 178 - 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,804 - the person that always take - advantage over the farmer. + 00:08:40,294 --> 00:08:42,410 + you know, we had it + would have a drink. 179 - 00:11:06,804 --> 00:11:09,535 - Because of the Khmer Rouge. + 00:08:42,410 --> 00:08:46,324 + Neighbor actually about + the third time he said 180 - 00:11:09,535 --> 00:11:12,955 - Most of them the farmer. + 00:08:46,324 --> 00:08:48,290 + by any chance him and it's true. 181 - 00:11:12,955 --> 00:11:18,954 - And they have a background - that very low education. + 00:08:48,290 --> 00:08:50,060 + And I told him what I was doing. 182 - 00:11:18,954 --> 00:11:22,270 - And they don't like - the city people + 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:51,350 + Oh, I'm so sorry. 183 - 00:11:22,270 --> 00:11:26,634 - that used to take - Atlantic from them. + 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:56,135 + He said, hi, I don't + drink, I don't dream. 184 - 00:11:26,634 --> 00:11:30,054 - And then it kind like - we went for them. + 00:08:56,135 --> 00:08:57,590 + But, you know, it's terrible. 185 - 00:11:30,054 --> 00:11:33,504 - But I don't know about - the tomato philosophy. + 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:58,730 + I'm going back to the worn 186 - 00:11:33,504 --> 00:11:38,379 - But this is yes, - only the the feeling + 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,695 + out going back to + our station there. 187 - 00:11:38,379 --> 00:11:41,310 - that I feel that time. + 00:09:00,695 --> 00:09:03,605 + And I just have my wife + and children with his 188 - 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:44,240 - Did you were you yourself, + 00:09:03,605 --> 00:09:06,950 + with her folks know I'm going + back and it's terrible. 189 - 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,530 - personally subjected to any - abuse by the Khmer Rouge? + 00:09:06,950 --> 00:09:07,970 + What do you think about this? 190 - 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:51,349 - Yeah. What can you - do you remember + 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:09,499 + War is a terrible, 191 - 00:11:51,349 --> 00:11:55,475 - any specific incidents - that occur at one time? + 00:09:09,499 --> 00:09:11,285 + terrible, and so on. 192 - 00:11:55,475 --> 00:11:57,365 - They said me too. + 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:12,920 + And then he told me, 193 - 00:11:57,365 --> 00:12:03,605 - We're at to trying - to make a water dam. + 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,155 + you belong in the + spiritualist church. 194 - 00:12:03,605 --> 00:12:15,120 - And the they call Stan sign - as part of a not Cambodia. + 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:16,640 + He belonged who had + come to church, 195 - 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:20,389 - And that tiny from sunrise to + 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,440 + which they're kind people. 196 - 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:23,209 - sunset and then come to + 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,289 + And about Jerry, he said, + I don't want to drink, 197 - 00:12:23,209 --> 00:12:27,779 - the borough that they - bill for a to slip. + 00:09:21,289 --> 00:09:23,119 + but he got into this + just to kinda shoe 198 - 00:12:27,970 --> 00:12:34,429 - And when the work is - not done on time, + 00:09:23,119 --> 00:09:25,745 + this mind and, and all of that. 199 - 00:12:34,429 --> 00:12:37,669 - they asked us to work - at NIH after dinner. + 00:09:25,745 --> 00:09:29,045 + And he said, you know, I + live in Minneapolis, I work 200 - 00:12:37,669 --> 00:12:39,650 - Most of the time, they did not + 00:09:29,045 --> 00:09:31,880 + and there's a fellow + came and picked 201 - 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:42,034 - allow us to come to - the burrow to eat. + 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,889 + up my little boy + comes from layer, 202 - 00:12:42,034 --> 00:12:44,675 - They have the cook + 00:09:33,889 --> 00:09:35,450 + which suddenly went + on Abraham and he 203 - 00:12:44,675 --> 00:12:49,714 - that brought the Dina to - the place that we work. + 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:37,040 + said he took that boil. 204 - 00:12:49,714 --> 00:12:53,660 - And then they are - just distribute each + 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,110 + All I said was a name wing blade. 205 - 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:58,489 - played for us to eat for a - while above half an hour, + 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:40,640 + Yes. He said do you know him? 206 - 00:12:58,489 --> 00:13:02,405 - and then they start plus two + 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,160 + And I said, oh, 207 - 00:13:02,405 --> 00:13:07,759 - again until ten or 11:00 PM - until midnight sometime. + 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,259 + I want to write home to my + wife and tell her that I met 208 - 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,549 - And their philosophy, + 00:09:45,259 --> 00:09:47,990 + a man on the bus + who knew that man 209 - 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:18,245 - the people that the leader - when they saw did not fitness. + 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:51,814 + made good progress and have 210 - 00:13:18,245 --> 00:13:19,789 - Even that posts that + 00:09:51,814 --> 00:09:53,689 + that whether we had the warm 211 - 00:13:19,789 --> 00:13:22,534 - tiny our hardware - that did not finish. + 00:09:53,689 --> 00:09:55,339 + talked all the way + to Minneapolis, 212 - 00:13:22,534 --> 00:13:24,859 - And then they start a new idea. + 00:09:55,339 --> 00:09:57,350 + had a wonderful time, really did. 213 - 00:13:24,859 --> 00:13:28,759 - Say, Daddy, why a piece of land? + 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:59,344 + And when I got home, 214 - 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,580 - If you dig it fast, + 00:09:59,344 --> 00:10:02,764 + I called my brother + has about 111130 215 - 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:32,795 - you can get finished. + 00:10:02,764 --> 00:10:05,450 + and he gave me the + name of the boy. 216 - 00:13:32,795 --> 00:13:36,080 - Their part that they - gave it to her to do. + 00:10:05,450 --> 00:10:07,580 + Let's call them sandwich burnout. 217 - 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,094 - You can go to the - broad sleep early. + 00:10:07,580 --> 00:10:09,109 + And I call my brothers + or do you know 218 - 00:13:39,094 --> 00:13:41,120 - And some people are trying to do + 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:10,895 + Sam? Did you ever pick him? 219 - 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,890 - that to get faster - and then so they can + 00:10:10,895 --> 00:10:12,470 + By the name of the father, 220 - 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:45,530 - have time come back - to have a lat of + 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:14,360 + I guess I said and I said, 221 - 00:13:45,530 --> 00:13:47,045 - find something to aid because + 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,970 + You know, somebody so-and-so + had a boy who picked up. 222 - 00:13:47,045 --> 00:13:49,220 - they don't have - enough food to eat. + 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:18,560 + Oh, yeah, that was damnation. 223 - 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:51,199 - And later on people, + 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,290 + Yes, I picked him. I never + could get them to come. 224 - 00:13:51,199 --> 00:13:54,455 - but I'm trying too hard - to finish their part. + 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:23,690 + But PK Well, that's my brother. 225 - 00:13:54,455 --> 00:13:59,060 - And then they increase the - portion of work load so + 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:29,389 + You see she now all the + way through and right now, 226 - 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,589 - until nobody can finish - before the one at the combat. + 00:10:29,389 --> 00:10:30,920 + each advisor for the pasture 227 - 00:14:05,950 --> 00:14:09,529 - Do Do you recall + 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,510 + pasture tapes that + have really changed 228 - 00:14:09,529 --> 00:14:14,419 - any incidents witnessing any - incidents where where people + 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:36,815 + you in the in the church + and even in a loving way. 229 - 00:14:14,419 --> 00:14:22,970 - were killed or just disappeared - or beaten at that time. + 00:10:36,815 --> 00:10:40,835 + He believes in prayer and + he prays for everything. 230 - 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:25,459 - And 197 needs seven, + 00:10:40,835 --> 00:10:43,160 + Well, now let's see what else. 231 - 00:14:25,459 --> 00:14:29,720 - same one of my friend + 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,085 + I know the time came to + unite the two schools. 232 - 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:36,019 - when two were from the same - village and he disappear. + 00:10:46,085 --> 00:10:48,080 + Chicago churches were pretty 233 - 00:14:36,019 --> 00:14:38,839 - I don't know what the reason why. + 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,404 + strong to keep the + seminary in Chicago, 234 - 00:14:38,839 --> 00:14:43,984 - Because they accuse - him that he's not very + 00:10:50,404 --> 00:10:53,135 + but they didn't raise any + money to do anything about it. 235 - 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:52,774 - active that trying to - against their philosophy. + 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:54,755 + Many soda. 236 - 00:14:52,774 --> 00:14:57,694 - But actually he's - really tired his sakes. + 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:55,895 + The academy was here. 237 - 00:14:57,694 --> 00:15:02,389 - He got diarrhea and he went + 00:10:55,895 --> 00:10:57,050 + We had one building 238 - 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:04,849 - into the the forest + 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:58,475 + anyway, they didn't + have any building. 239 - 00:15:04,849 --> 00:15:08,464 - nearby because he got diary, - he cannot stay there. + 00:10:58,475 --> 00:11:00,380 + They borrowed buildings + from Chicago University 240 - 00:15:08,464 --> 00:15:12,559 - And they accuse him that - trying to get away from birth. + 00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:01,715 + that they didn't have their own, 241 - 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:16,085 - And later on, after that night, + 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:03,305 + just about we can shape 242 - 00:15:16,085 --> 00:15:18,274 - next day, we didn't see him. + 00:11:03,305 --> 00:11:05,480 + and but we had that + academy building. 243 - 00:15:18,274 --> 00:15:20,479 - And they're told - that they send him + 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,170 + Michelle and Dr. + Laura said, oh good, 244 - 00:15:20,479 --> 00:15:22,849 - back to the village pub. + 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:13,895 + that'll build little rat hole. 245 - 00:15:22,849 --> 00:15:24,259 - When we came back after we + 00:11:13,895 --> 00:11:16,620 + I think he used that + word in Swedish, 246 - 00:15:24,259 --> 00:15:26,420 - finished work over - there about six months. + 00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:21,140 + but he was riots but does go now. 247 - 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:28,325 - I didn't see him at our + 00:11:21,140 --> 00:11:22,189 + They had Home George, 248 - 00:15:28,325 --> 00:15:31,309 - so I don't know - where they take it. + 00:11:22,189 --> 00:11:23,870 + professors, they had nice homes. 249 - 00:15:31,309 --> 00:15:33,545 - Did this happen very often + 00:11:23,870 --> 00:11:25,759 + And in Morgan Park, you know, 250 - 00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:35,509 - where people would - disappear like that? + 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,505 + kind of neighborhood like this, + there's only not so good. 251 - 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:38,300 - Usely, it happened to the people + 00:11:28,505 --> 00:11:30,335 + And they did whether Lee, 252 - 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:42,785 - that a blanket from the city. + 00:11:30,335 --> 00:11:31,400 + Dr. hid, the inductor, 253 - 00:15:42,785 --> 00:15:46,745 - But for the people - they call all people, + 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,019 + Sandel doctor, lawyer in, 254 - 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:50,210 - they tend to try and + 00:11:33,019 --> 00:11:35,209 + maybe somebody else. And, 255 - 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:55,474 - to that we educate them or - send them to let them place. + 00:11:35,209 --> 00:11:38,689 + and they voted on the, + the, the conference, 256 - 00:15:55,474 --> 00:15:57,469 - Okay. So you're feeling is + 00:11:38,689 --> 00:11:41,810 + decided to let all the + churches in the country in 257 - 00:15:57,469 --> 00:16:00,559 - that if one was - identified as has, + 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:43,759 + the conference vote on whether it 258 - 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,360 - having lived in the city, + 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,130 + should be in Chicago, + orange, St. Paul. 259 - 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,339 - that the Khmer Rouge would try + 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:48,484 + In the meantime, + there's a little dip, 260 - 00:16:04,339 --> 00:16:06,229 - to systematically break them + 00:11:48,484 --> 00:11:51,110 + maybe 3 thousand I mentioned + to you by thousand, 261 - 00:16:06,229 --> 00:16:11,789 - down and ultimately - killed them. Yeah. Okay. + 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:53,330 + eight thousand on the academy. 262 - 00:16:14,590 --> 00:16:21,240 - We're As far as + 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:54,830 + And they had the Academy to 263 - 00:16:22,570 --> 00:16:27,065 - the deaths of of people - in that village, + 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:56,944 + give degenerate + handprints. That building 264 - 00:16:27,065 --> 00:16:29,150 - was it usually the case + 00:11:56,944 --> 00:11:59,869 + we had nothing to offer. + And so they got busy 265 - 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:31,609 - where violence was - involved or was it a case + 00:11:59,869 --> 00:12:01,429 + raising money to pay 266 - 00:16:31,609 --> 00:16:36,035 - of just disappearances and - also perhaps starving people, + 00:12:01,429 --> 00:12:03,965 + off that mortgage and + they're paid it off. 267 - 00:16:36,035 --> 00:16:38,119 - and they would just - break down and die + 00:12:03,965 --> 00:12:06,409 + And then they could + say, Now we'll give 268 - 00:16:38,119 --> 00:16:40,579 - from illness or, - or a lack of food. + 00:12:06,409 --> 00:12:09,320 + that building to degenerate + whatever they can do with it. 269 - 00:16:40,579 --> 00:16:42,484 - Did that happen more frequently? + 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,270 + And that that's a 270 - 00:16:42,484 --> 00:16:44,179 - Almost everyday. + 00:12:11,270 --> 00:12:13,310 + clear and gave it to + him. He told paid up. 271 - 00:16:44,179 --> 00:16:50,014 - People that die by lacking a - full and also the illness, + 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:15,605 + Well then when churches voted, 272 - 00:16:50,014 --> 00:16:52,370 - they common disease is + 00:12:15,605 --> 00:12:17,840 + they voted overwhelmingly to move 273 - 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:56,330 - diarrhea and starvation because + 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,120 + the seminary to St. Paul. 274 - 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:58,294 - they don't have - enough food to eat. + 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,935 + In 1912, we had terrible + January Conference in Chicago. 275 - 00:16:58,294 --> 00:17:03,980 - And some people die by accusing. + 00:12:27,935 --> 00:12:30,170 + And they were talking + back and forth, 276 - 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:06,349 - Are there background? + 00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:33,770 + hot and heavy and something + like this committee going 277 - 00:17:06,349 --> 00:17:08,074 - If they found out live? + 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:38,390 + on in New York + afternoon, Watergate. 278 - 00:17:08,074 --> 00:17:11,464 - My friend, he was the pilot. + 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:41,330 + The senators were fighting 279 - 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:18,844 - And the reason that they - know him because he brought + 00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:42,980 + yesterday to hear on the radio. 280 - 00:17:18,844 --> 00:17:26,240 - a if made at that time when - he was in Phnom Penh city, + 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:45,440 + They call each other well, 281 - 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,830 - he had irwin made as + 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,180 + but they were very hot and heavy. - 282 - 00:17:27,830 --> 00:17:31,204 - that allele girl - about 1010 years old. + 282 + 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:54,005 + They the 19201912, but + they didn't get anywhere. 283 - 00:17:31,204 --> 00:17:34,100 - And she's the real Cambodian + 00:12:54,005 --> 00:12:55,970 + But they voted to + have the converse and 284 - 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:37,130 - cared because see have - a different math skin. + 00:12:55,970 --> 00:12:58,475 + next year in 1913 into Lou, 285 - 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:41,329 - And he brought - Herbert and told her + 00:12:58,475 --> 00:13:01,130 + and that became the + Peace Conference. 286 - 00:17:41,329 --> 00:17:45,184 - because that time her - parent was separate, + 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:02,840 + Oh, and there's a + wonderful spirit 287 - 00:17:45,184 --> 00:17:47,795 - B cannot leave her alone. + 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,070 + and that got, + remember, I didn't go. 288 - 00:17:47,795 --> 00:17:50,525 - And she wanted to - come along when when + 00:13:04,070 --> 00:13:05,945 + He just learned + beside themselves. 289 - 00:17:50,525 --> 00:17:53,914 - he took her with - two layered there, + 00:13:05,945 --> 00:13:08,810 + Didn't go. But they want to + they were wished he had come. 290 - 00:17:53,914 --> 00:17:57,079 - they look at is not - like a relative or + 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:14,660 + And then they voted to go right + ahead in the Twin Cities. 291 - 00:17:57,079 --> 00:18:01,460 - threatened or something - because of the appearance. + 00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:15,889 + That's a recommendation of 292 - 00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:05,360 - And later on, that - girl, when she grow up, + 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:18,470 + gender conference, + almost two to one. 293 - 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,990 - see toll everything - about our background + 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:21,245 + I don't remember exactly + what the poison the churches 294 - 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:12,890 - that she news than they found out + 00:13:21,245 --> 00:13:23,570 + And that and they voted not here 295 - 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:20,735 - that he was pilot and - they tried to kill him. + 00:13:23,570 --> 00:13:25,580 + to I crashed in this thing. 296 - 00:18:20,735 --> 00:18:28,414 - But he tried to make it - work as hard as he can to + 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:27,425 + They call Dr. angstrom 297 - 00:18:28,414 --> 00:18:32,610 - fulfill their + 00:13:27,425 --> 00:13:29,900 + to be the first + president of the school. 298 - 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,635 - what is say, their commitment. + 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:31,729 + Now doctor asked him, 299 - 00:18:39,635 --> 00:18:43,190 - But one day they make + 00:13:31,729 --> 00:13:33,739 + was a boy who sold newspapers 300 - 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:47,615 - a the whole relate chain + 00:13:33,739 --> 00:13:35,825 + on the streets of Minneapolis. 301 - 00:18:47,615 --> 00:18:52,205 - by moving people from one - relate to another really. + 00:13:35,825 --> 00:13:37,309 + He was wonderfully converted to 302 - 00:18:52,205 --> 00:18:56,195 - And that time is the time - that the more people + 00:13:37,309 --> 00:13:38,629 + enter Dr. Frank Peterson in 303 - 00:18:56,195 --> 00:19:00,319 - the access to Pat and unmute - during that NIH, no warning. + 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:42,079 + the meeting saying he + could talk Swedish, 304 - 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:02,435 - So at the at night, + 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:44,255 + but he knew English, of course. 305 - 00:19:02,435 --> 00:19:04,549 - that night they told - everybody need to + 00:13:44,255 --> 00:13:47,389 + And when Dr. Frank Peterson, 306 - 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:07,639 - Pat and to move to another - village because that, + 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:50,809 + who is Chair of President + pasture that church sent Arvin, 307 - 00:19:07,639 --> 00:19:12,199 - that the new will need more - people to finish their work. + 00:13:50,809 --> 00:13:52,549 + takes him to Chicago to 308 - 00:19:12,199 --> 00:19:15,799 - And then they send - them through DNA. + 00:13:52,549 --> 00:13:54,830 + the seminary logger + and said to him, 309 - 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:18,170 - And later on I found out that he + 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:56,780 + we can't use you + your canto treaty. 310 - 00:19:18,170 --> 00:19:20,990 - die because I saw - belonging that they + 00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:59,315 + How can we use your niche + where you can talk treaty? 311 - 00:19:20,990 --> 00:19:24,800 - took from them and distributed - to their old people to use + 00:13:59,315 --> 00:14:01,190 + Frank Peters and + wrote a letter to Dr. 312 - 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,244 - that little girl that - that lived with him? + 00:14:01,190 --> 00:14:04,339 + logging that you just see that 313 - 00:19:30,244 --> 00:19:32,960 - I did. Who did she live + 00:14:04,339 --> 00:14:06,619 + he said if you are + going to send back, 314 - 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,795 - with after they move - to the nowadays? + 00:14:06,619 --> 00:14:08,900 + the boys were sent to + you to the seminary. 315 - 00:19:35,795 --> 00:19:39,695 - Her they took her to live - with death and family. + 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:12,590 + You better go back to + sweep because I'm English. 316 - 00:19:39,695 --> 00:19:44,345 - Okay. Because the have - some problem fighting, + 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:16,369 + Well anyway, IIT logo meant well, 317 - 00:19:44,345 --> 00:19:46,565 - arguing because at the food, + 00:14:16,369 --> 00:14:18,785 + he wouldn't quite strong + as I've said put it. 318 - 00:19:46,565 --> 00:19:49,340 - not enough food to eat - and people tried to set + 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:22,160 + And but takes from his + trembled Wesley's Swedish now. 319 - 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:52,730 - Y and they steal from - each ADA to eat. + 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,660 + He preaches Swedish churches. 320 - 00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:54,620 - And then they saw that we + 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:25,970 + He would write it in English and 321 - 00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:58,115 - have in the night that and - then they split family. + 00:14:25,970 --> 00:14:29,195 + then his wife would helping + translated into Swedish. 322 - 00:19:58,115 --> 00:20:02,869 - Even myself, I split to lay - that defend family and he, + 00:14:29,195 --> 00:14:31,205 + And then he would + preach Swedish issue 323 - 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:05,675 - that his widely different family. + 00:14:31,205 --> 00:14:33,110 + that to wait, you struggle alone. 324 - 00:20:05,675 --> 00:20:07,559 - Okay. + 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:36,770 + He became pastor of + Chicago when he was 30. 325 - 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:17,089 - So was 1979 + 00:14:36,770 --> 00:14:40,084 + And he was missionary around + their four-year gentlemen, 326 - 00:20:17,089 --> 00:20:20,480 - when the Vietnamese - invaded Cambodia, + 00:14:40,084 --> 00:14:41,105 + but can use 30. 327 - 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,199 - was the first time you - fled from the village. + 00:14:41,105 --> 00:14:42,710 + He was called a + Chicago first year. 328 - 00:20:24,199 --> 00:20:26,749 - Were there ever other incidents + 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:44,540 + It's a large church + in our conference. 329 - 00:20:26,749 --> 00:20:31,865 - that they I I thought - the Vietnamese. + 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:48,200 + And he was the outstanding + pasture in our conference. 330 - 00:20:31,865 --> 00:20:36,544 - Came by because I live - near the highway. + 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,135 + And he had the + outstanding church. 331 - 00:20:36,544 --> 00:20:38,660 - And I saw that and + 00:14:50,135 --> 00:14:51,500 + He mixed with the leaders in 332 - 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,400 - all the Khmer Rouge leader + 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,270 + Chicago and get ideas, you know, 333 - 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,519 - escape the night before - because they knew they + 00:14:53,270 --> 00:14:54,859 + the big churches, pastors 334 - 00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:46,550 - have a radio that - they can listen to + 00:14:54,859 --> 00:14:57,170 + there went ten to their meetings. 335 - 00:20:46,550 --> 00:20:48,559 - the news through the radio + 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:59,900 + And he was very progressive + and revivalist in the church. 336 - 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,720 - and also the, the escape before. + 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:01,550 + I should just said + we had revivals 337 - 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,489 - So this only the population + 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:03,770 + and Bethel Academy, + the old Asian. 338 - 00:20:52,489 --> 00:20:54,739 - that live in the - village stay there. + 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:07,834 + And wish we had the largest + missionary volunteer group 339 - 00:20:54,739 --> 00:20:58,909 - So the next day I saw the - Vietnamese troop came by and + 00:15:07,834 --> 00:15:09,529 + in the state university or 340 - 00:20:58,909 --> 00:21:03,485 - everybody thought that the - Cambodia was freeze again. + 00:15:09,529 --> 00:15:11,330 + college that has a + Medical Academy. 341 - 00:21:03,485 --> 00:21:06,139 - And then everybody - trying to get into + 00:15:11,330 --> 00:15:13,309 + And we had to rely much + things are happening 342 - 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:10,174 - the fear to grab our - rice that we can to + 00:15:13,309 --> 00:15:15,545 + that little Academy I told + you about a while ago. 343 - 00:21:10,174 --> 00:21:13,819 - protect so we can live for + 00:15:15,545 --> 00:15:18,859 + And whenever we reached + a 100 and even a 100, 344 - 00:21:13,819 --> 00:21:18,814 - while until we know what's - going on in the country. + 00:15:18,859 --> 00:15:22,550 + we took we took a holiday + when the attendance reached 345 - 00:21:18,814 --> 00:21:25,309 - And I live with the family - that I stayed there. + 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:26,450 + to pick a hundred two + hundred three hundred habit. 346 - 00:21:25,309 --> 00:21:28,015 - The whole during that + 00:15:26,450 --> 00:15:28,009 + I told that to the fact 347 - 00:21:28,015 --> 00:21:32,359 - Camaro tried to help - them to collect. + 00:15:28,009 --> 00:15:31,175 + that told the story + I'm telling you. 348 - 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,890 - Are the right, keep it. + 00:15:31,175 --> 00:15:35,930 + They would roar + every under revival. 349 - 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:36,740 - You get about a 100 pound + 00:15:35,930 --> 00:15:39,499 + And we had it Dr. Hicks them + at a commencement said, 350 - 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,184 - or something like that. Keep it. + 00:15:39,499 --> 00:15:42,649 + We may say What we will about + the seminar Academy that 351 - 00:21:39,184 --> 00:21:41,165 - And one week later, + 00:15:42,649 --> 00:15:43,864 + tell you that the academy 352 - 00:21:41,165 --> 00:21:42,980 - I made decision because + 00:15:43,864 --> 00:15:46,025 + emission school for + our conference, 353 - 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,260 - that time a lot of - people start moving to + 00:15:46,025 --> 00:15:47,915 + that's where the + missionaries runoff from 354 - 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:49,039 - their own town and + 00:15:47,915 --> 00:15:51,244 + Outstanding genres all crushed + and a whole bunch of them, 355 - 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:53,240 - they asked them that I'm - going to see my parents. + 00:15:51,244 --> 00:15:54,034 + quite a number of anyway, + Olivia, Jocelyn, therapy, 356 - 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,284 - And one week later I left. + 00:15:54,034 --> 00:15:57,650 + the retinal array and so on. 357 - 00:21:56,284 --> 00:22:00,574 - I travel almost about + 00:15:57,650 --> 00:16:00,500 + Now the two schools + came together. 358 - 00:22:00,574 --> 00:22:04,850 - two weeks and I reached - to my hometown. + 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,300 + 90 Put dr. Higgs jump. 359 - 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:07,505 - But when it yeah, - that the other firm. + 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:04,039 + It's just hidden between + the eyes when they, 360 - 00:22:07,505 --> 00:22:10,535 - Okay. Were you able to - locate your parents? + 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:05,840 + when they voted him + to be president. 361 - 00:22:10,535 --> 00:22:13,819 - I know that and that - time my parents did + 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,654 + But he wasn't prepared for 362 - 00:22:13,819 --> 00:22:17,180 - not escape from the - Khmer Rouge yet because + 00:16:07,654 --> 00:16:10,205 + he said I prepared for the + patch the best I could. 363 - 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,780 - she was a bucket to add + 00:16:10,205 --> 00:16:13,220 + I'm not the man for that. + And he broke down and cried. 364 - 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:24,740 - new or different village - from my home town. + 00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:15,230 + Muhammad broke down + and cried when they 365 - 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:28,385 - That was your mother? My parents, + 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:17,120 + said he was very good. 366 - 00:22:28,385 --> 00:22:31,460 - my brother and my sister. + 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:25,459 + To remember that the + Carlisle tells that, 367 - 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:36,065 - Okay. When I came to - the my my old hometown, + 00:16:25,459 --> 00:16:29,359 + well, anyway, he said, 368 - 00:22:36,065 --> 00:22:39,335 - I saw only my my cousin + 00:16:29,359 --> 00:16:32,000 + I'll accept it, you pray, + and I'll accept it. 369 - 00:22:39,335 --> 00:22:42,845 - and the ADA relative - summed up my parents. + 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,510 + And so he resigned his + find shirts and loved you. 370 - 00:22:42,845 --> 00:22:44,900 - Your parents, brother and sister. + 00:16:35,510 --> 00:16:39,855 + Mentioned ten year end 371 - 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:49,519 - Were they all sit together - to the same village? + 00:16:39,855 --> 00:16:41,769 + Took over the presidency 372 - 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,590 - I didn't know, but they say that + 00:16:41,769 --> 00:16:43,135 + where we're going + to have an office. 373 - 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:55,820 - the first year they send - altogether and later on, + 00:16:43,135 --> 00:16:45,444 + He said that wasn't money + and up in the treasury 374 - 00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:58,759 - my brother's split - up from them because + 00:16:45,444 --> 00:16:48,295 + of the school treasure + to go to the next town. 375 - 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:02,014 - of the economic No, + 00:16:48,295 --> 00:16:53,500 + There were no MIT + Scratch. Oh, no. 376 - 00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:04,474 - not enough food to eat so much, + 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,080 + He before that they + had elected him to 377 - 00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:08,719 - fled to the other area - trying to live by himself. + 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,050 + financial secretary + of the conference. 378 - 00:23:08,719 --> 00:23:15,274 - And that time, my pen worth - got how are my brother? - - 379 - 00:23:15,274 --> 00:23:20,640 - My younger brother - got home before them. + 00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:01,240 + So he had traveled in that way. + + 379 + 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,790 + He left the church and to + do that. And he traveled. 380 - 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,010 - Okay. What what village where + 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:05,470 + He visit every church conference 381 - 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:26,544 - your parents and sister - sent to? Where were they? + 00:17:05,470 --> 00:17:06,640 + without taking any vacation. 382 - 00:23:26,544 --> 00:23:28,449 - House was at near bottom mouth, + 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,335 + Took him two or three + years to do that. 383 - 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:32,890 - about 15 kilo meter - from Baltimore City + 00:17:08,335 --> 00:17:09,790 + And then he was that man. 384 - 00:23:32,890 --> 00:23:35,875 - along Highway phi k. + 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:11,529 + He was General Secretary for 385 - 00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:39,230 - What was the name of that - village they call compound. + 00:17:11,529 --> 00:17:14,890 + the conference when he was + called to be president. 386 - 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,119 - And when the - vietnamese took over, + 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:16,780 + But he was up there in + Duluth and he went to D, 387 - 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,615 - when they heard that - Vietnamese to tame the Camaro, + 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:18,655 + said that I'm not + prepared for this, 388 - 00:23:46,615 --> 00:23:53,425 - evacuate them from that place - to along the highway, go. + 00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:22,470 + but he accepted if he says + you pray and we'll go ahead. 389 - 00:23:53,425 --> 00:23:57,804 - As Jill is the carlo. + 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:25,009 + And so he started with + nothing you might say 390 - 00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:03,199 - Today, moan or say city. + 00:17:25,009 --> 00:17:28,565 + except the grace of God + is fake and are paid. 391 - 00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:10,150 - Okay. And now, in my eye, + 00:17:28,565 --> 00:17:31,160 + But he started to raise money. 392 - 00:24:10,150 --> 00:24:14,109 - and April rising in April of 79, + 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,380 + Oh yes, they bought the campus on 393 - 00:24:14,109 --> 00:24:17,935 - my dad and my brother, + 00:17:33,380 --> 00:17:38,000 + smelling six acres + to square blocks. 394 - 00:24:17,935 --> 00:24:23,470 - the youngest brother, - and my grandfather. + 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,425 + They're not, they're + oblong though. 395 - 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,919 - Let's die. At the same time. + 00:17:39,425 --> 00:17:42,260 + And we could have gotten and + we've got one for nothing. 396 - 00:24:26,919 --> 00:24:31,194 - During the big thunderstorm. + 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:44,075 + I think about the other one. 397 - 00:24:31,194 --> 00:24:33,159 - Because he, they bought, + 00:17:44,075 --> 00:17:46,310 + And the real estate man 398 - 00:24:33,159 --> 00:24:35,439 - they all got struck by lightning. + 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:47,870 + said you can have + the third one too, 399 - 00:24:35,439 --> 00:24:37,839 - The diet here. Where was that? + 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:49,520 + if you want to for a low price. 400 - 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:42,790 - At? My moment to say, OK. Now, + 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,155 + And they said, Oh, we'll + never need anymore. 401 - 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:48,290 - was there was there something + 00:17:51,155 --> 00:17:53,240 + Or some of the board + that he thought that, 402 - 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:53,330 - significant about that - particular location + 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,130 + you know how lack of vision. 403 - 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:56,675 - or that village or prison camp? + 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:56,480 + But there were five + men in their way. 404 - 00:24:56,675 --> 00:24:58,820 - I recall someone telling me + 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,030 + They weren't used to + this thing and show. 405 - 00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:01,880 - about prison camp - or a village near + 00:17:59,030 --> 00:18:00,259 + They bought that camp it. But I 406 - 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,890 - bottom bond that there were + 00:18:00,259 --> 00:18:01,760 + landed right on his own board. 407 - 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:06,589 - bodies kept in a well or they - would throw bodies in well, + 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,159 + He had Those are + fighting that thing, 408 - 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:09,409 - was that they call it a day. + 00:18:04,159 --> 00:18:06,889 + but it went through and 409 - 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:13,040 - Okay. A diff this that - little foot for the okay. + 00:18:06,889 --> 00:18:08,599 + then he's tried to raise + money for the seminary, 410 - 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,029 - Okay. So your father, + 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:11,270 + that little seminary that's + over there in that building. 411 - 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:18,830 - one brother and grandfather, + 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:13,699 + They raised, I think + there's $30 thousand 412 - 00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:20,645 - were struck by lightning? + 00:18:13,699 --> 00:18:16,070 + had cosh and it is + defined building. 413 - 00:25:20,645 --> 00:25:32,189 - Okay. And how long did you - remain and bottom bar? + 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:18,349 + And then and then we show 414 - 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,275 - I after my grandfather, + 00:18:18,349 --> 00:18:20,884 + the conference sold + to a real estate man, 415 - 00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:42,739 - my father, my brother die. + 00:18:20,884 --> 00:18:24,185 + that little Academy + for $20 thousand. 416 - 00:25:42,739 --> 00:25:45,184 - And two weeks later, + 00:18:24,185 --> 00:18:27,395 + That transgender conference + got just see from 417 - 00:25:45,184 --> 00:25:51,004 - my mother and my sister got out. + 00:18:27,395 --> 00:18:31,880 + Minnesota and from this + end of the line 20 cow. 418 - 00:25:51,004 --> 00:25:54,574 - They both get out - from the tomorrows. + 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,800 + And I think that that's right. 419 - 00:25:54,574 --> 00:26:00,559 - And then she returned to meet - me in my hometown again, + 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,540 + And then they raised + money among the church. 420 - 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:06,454 - I believe at b and - now April of 1979. + 00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:36,589 + It's gotta be that + through SHA1 and 421 - 00:26:06,454 --> 00:26:09,920 - And I stay with them for a while. + 00:18:36,589 --> 00:18:37,790 + raise money for the new seminary. 422 - 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,095 - And we don't think that we can + 00:18:37,790 --> 00:18:40,009 + And I may have one of our own and 423 - 00:26:12,095 --> 00:26:15,800 - live because I have - no full nothing. + 00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:42,695 + we have going to have + the building of our own. 424 - 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,370 - So my mom and my sister and + 00:18:42,695 --> 00:18:45,050 + But when we solely + academy building, 425 - 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:25,264 - my brother decide to - escape to Thailand. + 00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:47,210 + they said know what wedged + Academy gonna be next year. 426 - 00:26:25,264 --> 00:26:31,200 - During the man now, between - May and June and that time, + 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:50,390 + This is 19141915, whereas Academy 427 - 00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,640 - when I reach Thailand, + 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:54,649 + going to go to and so the 428 - 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,709 - cam allowed the border. + 00:18:54,649 --> 00:18:56,869 + graciously arranged this way 429 - 00:26:36,709 --> 00:26:39,590 - The carlo Non Jan cam. + 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,569 + that the academy + could have clashing 430 - 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:43,280 - I'm a stay there a by two. + 00:18:59,569 --> 00:19:03,380 + that fore noon and 431 - 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,654 - We at that time, + 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:04,939 + their seminar could + have theirs in 432 - 00:26:46,654 --> 00:26:49,910 - the ties government brought + 00:19:04,939 --> 00:19:08,510 + the afternoon and day + that went through. 433 - 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:53,135 - all of the refugee - ban because are + 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:10,715 + And we did that for two years. 434 - 00:26:53,135 --> 00:26:58,310 - no international supervision - in that cam and too + 00:19:10,715 --> 00:19:12,920 + I think there's two + year, something 435 - 00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:00,934 - proud and ties government + 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,765 + like that, maybe a little more. 436 - 00:27:00,934 --> 00:27:05,629 - just lie to a saying that they - will move to a new place. + 00:19:14,765 --> 00:19:16,280 + My brother called me on the phone 437 - 00:27:05,629 --> 00:27:10,639 - But actually they put us - on a bus in the morning. + 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,810 + the other day and + he should Henry, 438 - 00:27:10,639 --> 00:27:13,910 - And they draw was, are they RNA? + 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:20,210 + do you know that + this is a day that 439 - 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:20,179 - Three, the destination is - the not psi of Cambodia. + 00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:24,875 + nine of the ninth of + May when we moved 440 - 00:27:20,179 --> 00:27:22,024 - Along the border. + 00:19:24,875 --> 00:19:26,764 + after the college + building was really 441 - 00:27:22,024 --> 00:27:24,725 - And in the morning the sun dry, + 00:19:26,764 --> 00:19:28,910 + the big academy + building was put up. 442 - 00:27:24,725 --> 00:27:26,990 - they start to push - or to walk across + 00:19:28,910 --> 00:19:30,305 + Then when that was finished. 443 - 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:30,229 - the border into Cambodia, psi. + 00:19:30,305 --> 00:19:31,970 + And we can move from + the seminar with 444 - 00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:33,829 - And that time, a lot of people + 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:34,970 + all our panel shelves and things. 445 - 00:27:33,829 --> 00:27:37,610 - die because of the - mine along the border. + 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:36,860 + And all the students + jumped into it as 446 - 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,924 - No. Where was the train? + 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:38,720 + a holiday to carry overhaul 447 - 00:27:40,924 --> 00:27:45,050 - Was this mountain slopes - and PD-L1 they call numb. + 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,040 + the magnificent furniture + to that new building, 448 - 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:54,094 - But Evie here that the the - the heavily cliff Hang on. + 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,764 + three story building, 449 - 00:27:54,094 --> 00:27:55,970 - Cambodian psi. But from + 00:19:44,764 --> 00:19:47,255 + which had been the college + building now for years. 450 - 00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:59,315 - the Thailand is - like a plane fear. + 00:19:47,255 --> 00:19:50,645 + It was a nine the MAY + matrices celebration 451 - 00:27:59,315 --> 00:28:04,215 - Mmm. So people were literally - pushed to their deaths. + 00:19:50,645 --> 00:19:55,415 + and ninth of May, 1916 or 17. 452 - 00:28:04,215 --> 00:28:10,869 - Most people that were across - early in the morning, + 00:19:55,415 --> 00:19:57,410 + But you haven't oftentime 453 - 00:28:10,869 --> 00:28:14,650 - most of them die - because of the mind. + 00:19:57,410 --> 00:19:59,195 + getting the money for + that colleague building? 454 - 00:28:14,650 --> 00:28:17,904 - And the mind just blow - when all day long. + 00:19:59,195 --> 00:20:01,430 + I visited, I was just a teacher. 455 - 00:28:17,904 --> 00:28:20,290 - Because people didn't know. + 00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:04,430 + I visited 50 churches one summer, 456 - 00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:21,924 - They just abandoned. + 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:06,650 + among those who + were raising money. 457 - 00:28:21,924 --> 00:28:24,024 - And my family. + 00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:11,449 + I visited 50 churches and next + summer and hot, you know, 458 - 00:28:24,024 --> 00:28:29,214 - But my relative, about 30 - people decide to stay, + 00:20:11,449 --> 00:20:13,280 + I had 5-stage to visit churches, 459 - 00:28:29,214 --> 00:28:34,479 - do not want to run back - to Cambodia until that + 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,629 + him and I'd be on 460 - 00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:37,044 - the Thai soldier just till + 00:20:14,629 --> 00:20:16,399 + those hot branch lines and dust 461 - 00:28:37,044 --> 00:28:40,209 - the garden trying to show that. + 00:20:16,399 --> 00:20:18,230 + coming in through + the open window. 462 - 00:28:40,209 --> 00:28:43,360 - And then we decide to - leave the last Chan. + 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:20,585 + But sort of hace + you wanted it open. 463 - 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,544 - And I stay alone that water + 00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:22,849 + And then I had a lecture I 464 - 00:28:46,544 --> 00:28:51,395 - because the hurdle too many - mind-blowing that time. + 00:20:22,849 --> 00:20:25,820 + gave everywhere in three, + the three I'd men. 465 - 00:28:51,395 --> 00:28:53,719 - So we decide to stay thereby, we, + 00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:31,625 + But either three i this i + this i this, i spirit July. 466 - 00:28:53,719 --> 00:28:57,229 - without food and - water, that we drink, + 00:20:31,625 --> 00:20:33,710 + And they wonder about + that. I'd be at three. 467 - 00:28:57,229 --> 00:29:01,699 - the water that just flow - along with the body, + 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:35,134 + I met one man, 468 - 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:04,504 - the sunlight than for one week. + 00:20:35,134 --> 00:20:36,725 + officer the war Abidjan, 469 - 00:29:04,504 --> 00:29:08,194 - And later on, we - saw the Vietnamese + 00:20:36,725 --> 00:20:38,449 + and he said, what's + that fellow lecturing 470 - 00:29:08,194 --> 00:29:11,779 - true came by and help to get out. + 00:20:38,449 --> 00:20:39,920 + on his yet communism or shopping? 471 - 00:29:11,779 --> 00:29:14,389 - So we bwa followed their pad, + 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,295 + So he goes said, you though, 472 - 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:17,015 - go back to Cambodia. + 00:20:43,295 --> 00:20:46,190 + hopefully I've met, but I got so 473 - 00:29:17,015 --> 00:29:18,874 - And where we're in Cambodia. + 00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:49,264 + tired and after the service 474 - 00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:22,380 - Did you go to I + 00:20:49,264 --> 00:20:51,019 + stay with the pastor and he 475 - 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:27,840 - about to mine back to - my home village again. + 00:20:51,019 --> 00:20:53,030 + never saw anybody really + ill. And so you'd like 476 - 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,514 - And how long did you - stay in bottom mom? + 00:20:53,030 --> 00:20:55,460 + to talk to me robots + and we'd have 477 - 00:29:32,514 --> 00:29:42,235 - I lived there until 198219 a2. + 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,010 + coffee that I couldn't + go to sleep very 478 - 00:29:42,235 --> 00:29:48,699 - And then I escape again. - During that period. + 00:20:58,010 --> 00:21:00,920 + well after the + coffee and the next 479 - 00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,829 - What were you doing in + 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,265 + morning at another train + through the dust storms. 480 - 00:29:50,829 --> 00:29:55,400 - Battambang, roughly - between 791982? + 00:21:04,265 --> 00:21:06,245 + And I've aged 50 churches. 481 - 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:05,004 - I start with the communication + 00:21:06,245 --> 00:21:08,790 + I sang a solo. 482 - 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,510 - and transport department in + 00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:13,325 + It was Swedish, so yeah, + it's a beautiful thing. 483 - 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:15,439 - Guatemala City as - the regular employee + 00:21:13,325 --> 00:21:15,650 + People way, hey, the + blood 10-year Yes. 484 - 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:20,939 - because I do not want anybody - knows about my background. + 00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:17,390 + Step and leaked and T police 485 - 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:31,219 - And after a year later than 1980, + 00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:19,279 + that tailored in looking into 486 - 00:30:31,219 --> 00:30:33,935 - I was Yeah. + 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,009 + your Google stuff akin or 487 - 00:30:33,935 --> 00:30:36,979 - That's close to 81. + 00:21:22,009 --> 00:21:25,820 + that they telephoned + Mr. Ben translate. 488 - 00:30:36,979 --> 00:30:39,950 - And I moved to we're in + 00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:28,339 + We're journeying + through on the way to 489 - 00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:42,859 - the office because they - know that I can do + 00:21:28,339 --> 00:21:31,190 + happiness majorly and depth. 490 - 00:30:42,859 --> 00:30:44,585 - some paperwork in the office + 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:33,710 + And there's one verse + step, might shoot 491 - 00:30:44,585 --> 00:30:46,309 - and my friend was there and they + 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:35,840 + what I knew now that 492 - 00:30:46,309 --> 00:30:50,809 - know me before senate - work in the office. + 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,300 + my chute wouldn't so new + that I was traveling with, 493 - 00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:54,814 - As the bookkeeping to make + 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:39,920 + you know, I guess I give it gives 494 - 00:30:54,814 --> 00:31:00,019 - no finer were less - for the employee. + 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,095 + a second shoot anyway + and which ones are good? 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Yeah. Maybe a - backup a little I guess. + 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,260 + And new blood means respect + bought out your hot. + + 500 + 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:57,380 + I sit Mitchum, look at + me and you're Watson. + + 501 + 00:21:57,380 --> 00:21:59,839 + This was an in-depth + look at me and + + 502 + 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:02,780 + you wonder how it could be + that he's a breadth of drugs. + + 503 + 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:04,699 + But listen, you haven't seen + + 504 + 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:06,770 + the real bribe to suit the width. + + 505 + 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:07,880 + This is just about traveling + + 506 + 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,619 + suit and fit it in because I was + + 507 + 00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:13,340 + traveling and I remember they'd + little rags here. Wagner, + + 508 + 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:19,100 + second suit number two + maybe would be somehow, + + 509 + 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:23,719 + well, so we raise the money + for the college building, + + 510 + 00:22:23,719 --> 00:22:25,430 + which was the academy billing. + + 511 + 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:27,500 + And at o we weren't proud. + + 512 + 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,884 + There's gymnasium and + they actually food - 2 - 00:00:10,590 --> 00:00:13,050 - Maybe at the point of mentioning + 513 + 00:22:29,884 --> 00:22:33,560 + shop that heating up + and that was cooking. - 3 - 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:16,360 - you started working in an office. + 514 + 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,699 + To teach cooking, there was - 4 - 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:21,630 - Oh, OK. Yeah. + 515 + 00:22:34,699 --> 00:22:37,130 + a business department + up on the third floor, - 5 - 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:24,030 - Now, you had mentioned that - you had been working in + 516 + 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:40,910 + and I had the English + department all the time all - 6 - 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:25,830 - an office doing some work + 517 + 00:22:40,910 --> 00:22:42,680 + through the years until I went - 7 - 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:28,080 - with bookkeeping, - things of that nature. + 518 + 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,540 + to Chicago, I'm sure was patched. - 8 - 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,950 - What other kinds of work - did you do? In the office? + 519 + 00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:45,860 + Then it came back. It got - 9 - 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:41,860 - At? My job is the typing, - the employee idlis, + 520 + 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:49,729 + a little better job I - 10 - 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:47,660 - and then Phyllis, - all that were and + 521 + 00:22:49,729 --> 00:22:54,650 + have to do is live + and on this side, - 11 - 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:55,145 - then have all the administrator - sign on that list. + 522 + 00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:56,220 + being careless. And on the other, - 12 - 00:00:55,145 --> 00:01:01,400 - And then we take the let's - go to the bank to get money. + 523 + 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:59,620 + another aspect, I + haven't gotten in - 13 - 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,130 - Because we start to have money. + 524 + 00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:06,625 + private plenty to go + to Chicago in 191938. - 14 - 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:11,585 - I think around 1980 is the - new government in Cambodia. + 525 + 00:23:06,625 --> 00:23:09,610 + I had been head of the + English department touches. - 15 - 00:01:11,585 --> 00:01:16,445 - They start to have money for - people to spend that time + 526 + 00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:14,380 + It was from 1910 to 1938. - 16 - 00:01:16,445 --> 00:01:22,790 - and then be my job to - help to make the list. + 527 + 00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:16,820 + How long? How many? - 17 - 00:01:22,790 --> 00:01:24,650 - Okay. Did you have + 528 + 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,570 + 28 years. 28 years. - 18 - 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:26,915 - any other jobs while + 529 + 00:23:19,570 --> 00:23:22,220 + And then we went to Chicago. - 19 - 00:01:26,915 --> 00:01:29,600 - during this period - before you left again? + 530 + 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:25,450 + We were riding along their + family and their tent, - 20 - 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:41,000 - No. Highlights and end till - 1982 in June. June 1982. + 531 + 00:23:25,450 --> 00:23:27,219 + had negotiations back and forth, - 21 - 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,630 - Okay. What what was it - like in bottom bog with, + 532 + 00:23:27,219 --> 00:23:29,830 + you know, but I thought + what am I doing? - 22 - 00:01:47,630 --> 00:01:50,929 - with a new occupation, + 533 + 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:31,750 + Runtime, I do, what am I getting? - 23 - 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:52,445 - new people in power, + 534 + 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:34,120 + Entry go down. + Chicago man told me. - 24 - 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:55,700 - whether still incidents - of of abuses of + 535 + 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,730 + He said, why don't you go to + Africa and don't go down? - 25 - 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:59,165 - power or were things fairly - stable, fairly calm. + 536 + 00:23:36,730 --> 00:23:38,860 + They then Nest head of Chicago - 26 - 00:01:59,165 --> 00:02:01,230 - What was it like there? + 537 + 00:23:38,860 --> 00:23:40,390 + Well, don't you beaver ambitious? - 27 - 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,360 - The new ghetto men? + 538 + 00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:42,549 + I said yeah, but + agouti applicant, - 28 - 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,730 - It deal. + 539 + 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:43,720 + he said, don't do that. - 29 - 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:12,800 - Keep looking. The people - that have connected + 540 + 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,220 + But we had a + wonderful time there. - 30 - 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:23,180 - with some get shiny background. + 541 + 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:46,780 + We did have a lot + of time in Chicago, + + 542 + 00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:48,385 + three years and three months. + + 543 + 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:51,130 + And then they were going + to elect a president. + + 544 + 00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:54,280 + And a bachelor's had the + inductor vectors editor. + + 545 + 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,275 + And you should get + your name on there. + + 546 + 00:23:56,275 --> 00:23:58,690 + Know my name on there. + + 547 + 00:23:58,690 --> 00:24:02,455 + You know, I can I can Xavier. + + 548 + 00:24:02,455 --> 00:24:05,064 + And anyway well, anyway, + + 549 + 00:24:05,064 --> 00:24:10,974 + it turned out that way and + the whole board could go, + + 550 + 00:24:10,974 --> 00:24:12,400 + not only the executive board, + + 551 + 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,680 + but the whole board of + the conference tool. + + 552 + 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:23,140 + And so it was in where they + had the catherine 1910191940 - 31 - 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:26,390 - And also the one to know + 553 + 00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:29,050 + comprehension that suddenly + erupt cord yet men and oh, - 32 - 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:29,810 - about the background - of the employee + 554 + 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:30,909 + my dean appointment, Daniel, - 33 - 00:02:29,810 --> 00:02:37,310 - before you can get in to work - in the office or whatever. + 555 + 00:24:30,909 --> 00:24:32,320 + he was the other candidate. - 34 - 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:40,714 - They are. They asked - about the background, + 556 + 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,300 + And then I went to Canada. - 35 - 00:02:40,714 --> 00:02:44,090 - writing like a resume, + 557 + 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,355 + She's never have + to never happened. - 36 - 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:47,665 - but I dare not trust them. + 558 + 00:24:36,355 --> 00:24:43,195 + But do he'd been a lovely + tell him that Well, - 37 - 00:02:47,665 --> 00:02:49,609 - Still Hi my identity. + 559 + 00:24:43,195 --> 00:24:45,760 + I had a kind of + advantage now, you know, - 38 - 00:02:49,609 --> 00:02:54,120 - I didn't tell anybody except - my friend at no, before. + 560 + 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,259 + you're kind of I thought B, - 39 - 00:02:54,670 --> 00:03:00,005 - Were were people - are being picked up + 561 + 00:24:47,259 --> 00:24:48,730 + all right, the Lord + wanted me do it. - 40 - 00:03:00,005 --> 00:03:02,300 - where detention camps being still + 562 + 00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:51,880 + I wouldn't proud and I + thought if that's what you're - 41 - 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,135 - in existence in - Cambodia that time? + 563 + 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,374 + one my wife and praying about it - 42 - 00:03:05,135 --> 00:03:10,534 - Yeah. They asked - all the employees + 564 + 00:24:53,374 --> 00:24:55,570 + and it's alright either way. - 43 - 00:03:10,534 --> 00:03:16,834 - go to training lake every two - the same they'd tomorrow's. + 565 + 00:24:55,570 --> 00:24:57,100 + But I'm scared, scared. - 44 - 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:23,450 - But they gave us some freedom - to do something by their + 566 + 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,670 + You know, Carlos Caribbean + gave us a good buddy. - 45 - 00:03:23,450 --> 00:03:26,765 - own because they didn't hold + 567 + 00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:04,215 + Was going to humble + little point but a URI. - 46 - 00:03:26,765 --> 00:03:32,000 - a common kitchen - or As a two-word, + 568 + 00:25:04,215 --> 00:25:08,674 + And so five, Well, - 47 - 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,015 - as that grew up in - a village anymore. + 569 + 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,990 + I was I was chairman + of the ministers show. - 48 - 00:03:35,015 --> 00:03:37,595 - So we can do whatever V1. + 570 + 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:13,985 + I was on the platform + all that time issue. - 49 - 00:03:37,595 --> 00:03:39,980 - But if the people that don't + 571 + 00:25:13,985 --> 00:25:16,250 + And then I was vice chairman + of the kind of franchises. - 50 - 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:42,770 - have enough resources to those, + 572 + 00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:18,155 + And he's told me + when they say it. - 51 - 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:47,345 - the crop or something - like that that relates, + 573 + 00:25:18,155 --> 00:25:20,479 + But of course he knew + his anyway and they - 52 - 00:03:47,345 --> 00:03:50,180 - that relates leader provides + 574 + 00:25:20,479 --> 00:25:23,780 + decided who resolution not + to discuss either one. - 53 - 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:53,270 - subnet and the ASA - to work as a team, + 575 + 00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:28,280 + Ohmic compare notes at all + and they're getting away. - 54 - 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:57,019 - but similar to the - tomatoes before. + 576 + 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,739 + Well then that, ok, - 55 - 00:03:57,019 --> 00:03:59,330 - Now, you stated that you you + 577 + 00:25:30,739 --> 00:25:33,320 + then they're going to + vote and add to it. - 56 - 00:03:59,330 --> 00:04:01,760 - laughed Cambodia in June of 1982. + 578 + 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,930 + And I went down head and + make a call to true basement - 57 - 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,660 - Yeah. Why did you - leave at that time? + 579 + 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:40,170 + left again talking + 70 hooves trimmed. - 58 - 00:04:05,660 --> 00:04:08,510 - Was did something happen - to you want to if we + 580 + 00:25:41,470 --> 00:25:46,220 + But we went to got cool though. - 59 - 00:04:08,510 --> 00:04:13,565 - or I have some pressure from work + 581 + 00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:48,019 + But then I thought, well, I think - 60 - 00:04:13,565 --> 00:04:18,320 - because I feel that people trying + 582 + 00:25:48,019 --> 00:25:49,640 + that was definitely + in the voting. - 61 - 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:25,070 - to dating to find - out the background, + 583 + 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,500 + But anyway, I was elected and - 62 - 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:28,805 - my background because 11 time + 584 + 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,200 + the first one to hit me was + the chairman of the board. - 63 - 00:04:28,805 --> 00:04:34,050 - I was selected to go to study. + 585 + 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,549 + He says, when big, - 64 - 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,645 - And the people in that - department select myself. + 586 + 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:58,205 + congratulations, you're + the one who repaid. - 65 - 00:04:38,645 --> 00:04:41,120 - But the other trend that we're + 587 + 00:25:58,205 --> 00:26:00,289 + And the next one was o Mark - 66 - 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,080 - going to go to learn how to, + 588 + 00:26:00,289 --> 00:26:02,210 + himself. He rushed over to me. - 67 - 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:53,540 - because they create a new - department called taxation. + 589 + 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:04,490 + Eugenic antigen grabbed + my hand and she says, - 68 - 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:56,885 - And know that I can go - they see like me to go. + 590 + 00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:07,009 + Congratulations, I'm + glad you're like, well, - 69 - 00:04:56,885 --> 00:04:59,300 - But before I can go, + 591 + 00:26:07,009 --> 00:26:08,239 + that spirit, that spirit on - 70 - 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:03,395 - I need to have background checks. + 592 + 00:26:08,239 --> 00:26:12,380 + McDonald's had in cooperation. - 71 - 00:05:03,395 --> 00:05:07,835 - My name was sent to the office. + 593 + 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:14,180 + Then he was passionate + Los Angeles. - 72 - 00:05:07,835 --> 00:05:13,370 - They call as the Cambodian - what they call carrier lie. + 594 + 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:17,510 + Then we called him to come as + professor to the seminary. - 73 - 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:17,240 - Just doesn't that mean - the appointment office. + 595 + 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:20,180 + And then when Dr. + Carlson patched away - 74 - 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,190 - Before they can appoint you to + 596 + 00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:24,109 + Carnegie Carlson we + caught in the board, - 75 - 00:05:19,190 --> 00:05:21,560 - go you need to go - through that office, + 597 + 00:26:24,109 --> 00:26:25,310 + caught him as dean. - 76 - 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,000 - the check our background. + 598 + 00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:26,480 + So he would deem the seven-year, - 77 - 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,560 - They come to look at - physical and they look at + 599 + 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,415 + I think types in seven years. - 78 - 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,515 - your face trying to ask + 600 + 00:26:28,415 --> 00:26:33,060 + And he's still a wonderful + fellow. Dino mark. - 79 - 00:05:30,515 --> 00:05:33,845 - or their friend about - the background. + 601 + 00:26:34,270 --> 00:26:37,069 + Well, Higgs Jim took the job and - 80 - 00:05:33,845 --> 00:05:37,729 - And I went through that process. + 602 + 00:26:37,069 --> 00:26:38,869 + interest and histories + and difficult job, - 81 - 00:05:37,729 --> 00:05:42,290 - I fail because they look at they + 603 + 00:26:38,869 --> 00:26:42,395 + but he carried on and he won + out and the Lord used him. - 82 - 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:44,930 - say I have some kind of + 604 + 00:26:42,395 --> 00:26:49,970 + And that's a picture + of depression. - 83 - 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:48,560 - a Chinese ethnic and - they don't trust it. + 605 + 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:52,280 + Girls were difficult + to your Soyuz. - 84 - 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,225 - Okay. And the other friend - a path they can go. + 606 + 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,010 + And now the + Depression, of course, - 85 - 00:05:53,225 --> 00:05:57,950 - Okay. Now, what did that mean - than if they failed you, + 607 + 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:58,130 + money went far, + money went very far. - 86 - 00:05:57,950 --> 00:06:01,175 - that that meant that you - didn't get that opportunity. + 608 + 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:00,080 + My wife came home from + the grocery store there - 87 - 00:06:01,175 --> 00:06:04,445 - But did that mean they might - come after you then later? + 609 + 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,255 + and does Israel + near where we live. - 88 - 00:06:04,445 --> 00:06:06,380 - I didn't know at that time, + 610 + 00:27:02,255 --> 00:27:04,730 + And I print and she + shady, so cheap. - 89 - 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:09,575 - but I feel that it's - not safe to stay. + 611 + 00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:06,710 + I'm ashamed she should + it showed cheap. - 90 - 00:06:09,575 --> 00:06:14,330 - And also my relative have + 612 + 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,480 + I'm ashamed. She mentioned - 91 - 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:17,075 - some problem in my hometown + 613 + 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,370 + only patient-level + money for everything. - 92 - 00:06:17,075 --> 00:06:20,525 - because they knew that - IVR escaped before, + 614 + 00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:13,249 + Depression. And we Dr. Actium - 93 - 00:06:20,525 --> 00:06:24,890 - during 1979 or my - family that escape it. + 615 + 00:27:13,249 --> 00:27:15,680 + called The faculty + together and you said, - 94 - 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:27,440 - And we don't want to, + 616 + 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,850 + now I don't know what to do. - 95 - 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,605 - we're in the farm to feel again. + 617 + 00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:18,560 + Issue. I've always had some hope - 96 - 00:06:30,605 --> 00:06:33,740 - So am I trying to escape? + 618 + 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,570 + before, but I haven't any more. - 97 - 00:06:33,740 --> 00:06:40,070 - So the last time a escape - it my way because I got + 619 + 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:23,690 + But I don't see you way + out or we had pram eating. - 98 - 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:43,355 - married and in November 1981 + 620 + 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:26,240 + Some students had prior mean + each with prayer meeting. - 99 - 00:06:43,355 --> 00:06:47,060 - and I escaped with my - wife and my wife URL. + 621 + 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,830 + And then we're going to drop up - 100 - 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:54,785 - Pattern and her sibling and - also my mother and my sister, + 622 + 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:30,245 + the prepare to our department. - 101 - 00:06:54,785 --> 00:06:57,260 - except my brother, that + 623 + 00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:32,974 + Now the junior + colleagues came in, + + 624 + 00:27:32,974 --> 00:27:35,990 + but the Lord land and + we got kept going. - 102 - 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,555 - he got married and - her two children. + 625 + 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:37,760 + Then the junior + colleague Justice, - 103 - 00:06:59,555 --> 00:07:02,060 - He cannot escape at that time. + 626 + 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,010 + there was a need for the + Academy of those days. - 104 - 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:04,985 - So he decided to stay. + 627 + 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:43,310 + There now became that same + need for the junior college. - 105 - 00:07:04,985 --> 00:07:10,740 - Ok. And how long did it take - you to get to the border? + 628 + 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:47,405 + The same need obtained + for the junior college - 106 - 00:07:11,530 --> 00:07:15,995 - From bottom bond to border? + 629 + 00:27:47,405 --> 00:27:53,045 + because now they had high + schools that they didn't have. - 107 - 00:07:15,995 --> 00:07:18,965 - Only one day. + 630 + 00:27:53,045 --> 00:27:55,325 + He's got used to having. - 108 - 00:07:18,965 --> 00:07:21,905 - Did you have any problems - crossing the border? + 631 + 00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:58,054 + So they didn't go to + high school and then - 109 - 00:07:21,905 --> 00:07:24,425 - How would happen? + 632 + 00:27:58,054 --> 00:28:01,580 + Junior College took care - 110 - 00:07:24,425 --> 00:07:26,840 - I gotta arrest one time. + 633 + 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,260 + of the first two + years of college. - 111 - 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,430 - They put me in jail. + 634 + 00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:05,164 + And then after having that, - 112 - 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:30,690 - They call seize upon. + 635 + 00:28:05,164 --> 00:28:08,120 + that started got + going good in 1933. - 113 - 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:35,230 - They arrested you - and put you in jail. + 636 + 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:12,410 + And then Dino Dean + Carlson was GUI, - 114 - 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:37,270 - What happened? How - long were you in jail? + 637 + 00:28:12,410 --> 00:28:14,255 + some marvelous hello Scott it. - 115 - 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:40,090 - Only one day, window in - the morning and then + 638 + 00:28:14,255 --> 00:28:17,180 + He was a history teacher, + but you can't make KBD. - 116 - 00:07:40,090 --> 00:07:43,540 - laid a learning my pattern, + 639 + 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:18,499 + And he had the confidence of - 117 - 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:46,510 - just negotiate the - people over there, + 640 + 00:28:18,499 --> 00:28:21,335 + the University of Minnesota + and he was marvelous. - 118 - 00:07:46,510 --> 00:07:50,200 - tried to bribe them to get - me and my life outlet that. + 641 + 00:28:21,335 --> 00:28:22,855 + I had these men around me. - 119 - 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,345 - Okay. And then we come back to + 642 + 00:28:22,855 --> 00:28:26,615 + I wouldn't, but they + were, And that's right. - 120 - 00:07:52,345 --> 00:07:54,850 - bite them both to live for - about a couple of months. + 643 + 00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:30,290 + And so finally, the + university okayed - 121 - 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:57,740 - And I made lately again. + 644 + 00:28:30,290 --> 00:28:35,915 + four years of college + work recognition. - 122 - 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 - While you were in jail, + 645 + 00:28:35,915 --> 00:28:41,390 + And Danielson, wherever + walter Danielson, - 123 - 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 - did anything did - they interrogate you + 646 + 00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:43,609 + who had been missionary + to a sham India, - 124 - 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,610 - or abuse you in any way? + 647 + 00:28:43,609 --> 00:28:45,920 + he was prevailed on to be - 125 - 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:10,450 - Because it's only one day - that didn't do anything yet. + 648 + 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 + the first dean of + the junior college. - 126 - 00:08:10,450 --> 00:08:14,060 - They just put me at the - dyadic people matter. + 649 + 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,615 + And oh, it was a tough job. - 127 - 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:18,590 - Okay. You return to bottom bond. + 650 + 00:28:50,615 --> 00:28:52,670 + Money with short to beat the bet. - 128 - 00:08:18,590 --> 00:08:22,130 - You were there for two more - months and then you yes. + 651 + 00:28:52,670 --> 00:28:54,395 + He cut down salaries, - 129 - 00:08:22,130 --> 00:08:23,465 - About to learn. + 652 + 00:28:54,395 --> 00:28:58,730 + showcases Have I remember + Mr. Norris and said to me, - 130 - 00:08:23,465 --> 00:08:26,420 - Okay. And then I escape - again because I'm + 653 + 00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:00,710 + current dean Karnofsky + button dean. - 131 - 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:29,510 - afraid I have some - problem with that. + 654 + 00:29:00,710 --> 00:29:03,635 + And he said to me he was + sitting in Duluth looking at - 132 - 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:34,340 - And then next time that IS - that last time I escape? + 655 + 00:29:03,635 --> 00:29:05,479 + those figures and I - 133 - 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:36,515 - A yes. + 656 + 00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:07,010 + came up to him into Luther + countered per share. - 134 - 00:08:36,515 --> 00:08:39,410 - Highest somebody - trying to help me + 657 + 00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:08,265 + Any shape. Can you tell me? - 135 - 00:08:39,410 --> 00:08:43,980 - to go through the Alone the way. + 658 + 00:29:08,265 --> 00:29:09,920 + I can label in this thing. - 136 - 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:46,490 - Did you go by yourself - or did you go + 659 + 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,600 + They weren't getting + much to start with, - 137 - 00:08:46,490 --> 00:08:48,260 - with the same group of people? + 660 + 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,570 + then cut half of it to her. - 138 - 00:08:48,260 --> 00:08:52,580 - The same people but a - little bit different time. + 661 + 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:17,555 + And they didn't cut. There's + so much to teach that - 139 - 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:58,685 - Okay. While you were in - Battambang that last time, + 662 + 00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:19,370 + he didn't show much. - 140 - 00:08:58,685 --> 00:09:00,755 - did anything unusual happened? + 663 + 00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:21,499 + My brother, nice cut + others because we had - 141 - 00:09:00,755 --> 00:09:02,870 - We're authorities looking for you + 664 + 00:29:21,499 --> 00:29:23,449 + been there so long about - 142 - 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:08,120 - or they keep an eye - on me all the time. + 665 + 00:29:23,449 --> 00:29:25,399 + their Wu the school whether - 143 - 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,340 - Because I live in + 666 + 00:29:25,399 --> 00:29:27,890 + did and then you + mentioned the war. - 144 - 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:13,130 - the bookkeeping and loaded with + 667 + 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:31,729 + Dave, Swedish Baptist, - 145 - 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:16,265 - the money that people are - just keep watching me. + 668 + 00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:35,550 + sort of very loyal to + the ward to the war. - 146 - 00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:21,185 - But every day I feel - like a lot of pressure + 669 + 00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,665 + It was a good thing that + Germany was so wicked. - 147 - 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:24,320 - that you felt that they might + 670 + 00:29:39,665 --> 00:29:41,450 + That's what made us show night. - 148 - 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,075 - eventually arrest you and + 671 + 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:42,920 + And that took place twice. - 149 - 00:09:26,075 --> 00:09:28,385 - perhaps send you - away or kill you? + 672 + 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,850 + You know, i was done + in Iowa for pushed for - 150 - 00:09:28,385 --> 00:09:34,670 - Probably. Okay. Okay. - So you had hired + 673 + 00:29:46,850 --> 00:29:50,000 + a weekend for the school - 151 - 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:37,040 - someone to help you - and your family + 674 + 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,780 + and there was a family + there had a big fine Farm. - 152 - 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,050 - escape and then this + 675 + 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:55,219 + And I don't know + what they had done - 153 - 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:41,375 - time you were successful - in crossing the border? + 676 + 00:29:55,219 --> 00:29:56,479 + to make everybody mad at them - 154 - 00:09:41,375 --> 00:09:43,880 - Yeah. Ok. And then + 677 + 00:29:56,479 --> 00:29:57,650 + if they were holding the envoy - 155 - 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,115 - where did you go after - you cross the border? + 678 + 00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:59,510 + from going into the service. - 156 - 00:09:46,115 --> 00:09:51,740 - I stay in that + 679 + 00:29:59,510 --> 00:30:05,150 + And they call them slackers, + who they call them yellow. - 157 - 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:57,575 - they call ME that's as - close to the border. + 680 + 00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:06,739 + They came there one night, - 158 - 00:09:57,575 --> 00:10:00,380 - Stayed there about three months. + 681 + 00:30:06,739 --> 00:30:09,635 + the neighborhood, and + painted all their buildings. - 159 - 00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:04,940 - And I don't have - money to go again + 682 + 00:30:09,635 --> 00:30:12,515 + And the next day he was + going to have an auction. - 160 - 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:10,160 - to carried out camp because - they need to walk about. + 683 + 00:30:12,515 --> 00:30:14,374 + And you see how, - 161 - 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,245 - Alma, RNA tried to get away - from the Thai soldier from + 684 + 00:30:14,374 --> 00:30:16,100 + I suppose cruel it was. - 162 - 00:10:15,245 --> 00:10:20,045 - the robbery, dropped that. + 685 + 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,570 + I mean, it was dirty. - 163 - 00:10:20,045 --> 00:10:22,220 - You don't know how to get there. + 686 + 00:30:17,570 --> 00:30:18,860 + It was to do that. - 164 - 00:10:22,220 --> 00:10:26,270 - You will be wrapped by or assault + 687 + 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,605 + And I don't know what + their vision was, - 165 - 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:30,515 - by the Thai people or by - the soul allowed the bada. + 688 + 00:30:21,605 --> 00:30:22,969 + what the reason they + had against him, - 166 - 00:10:30,515 --> 00:10:36,020 - Okay. So then did + 689 + 00:30:22,969 --> 00:30:24,320 + how it turned out. - 167 - 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:38,090 - you eventually end up - in carrier and and + 690 + 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,095 + You were either lacquered + or you went to war. - 168 - 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:41,550 - I I reached carried down. + 691 + 00:30:27,095 --> 00:30:30,034 + Now, how students at which + you think Amendment, David, - 169 - 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:48,170 - That's l2. Care. - With your family? + 692 + 00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:32,285 + and we had less students + the seminary could - 170 - 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:50,600 - Yeah. Okay. All of you together? + 693 + 00:30:32,285 --> 00:30:35,630 + go because they were going + into Christian work. - 171 - 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,525 - Okay. How long were - you and carried on? + 694 + 00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:38,449 + And that the students in - 172 - 00:10:56,525 --> 00:11:07,310 - I stay and carried out - until December 1983. + 695 + 00:30:38,449 --> 00:30:42,544 + the academy or in the + college were allowed - 173 - 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:17,620 - Okay. Okay. What did - you do and carry down? + 696 + 00:30:42,544 --> 00:30:46,790 + to be free from the war + if they were lined up + + 697 + 00:30:46,790 --> 00:30:52,040 + as minister to training + from industry and so on. - 174 - 00:11:17,620 --> 00:11:20,740 - I start working because I feel + 698 + 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,410 + But our general + conference with oil. - 175 - 00:11:20,740 --> 00:11:23,230 - like I'm so depressed there. + 699 + 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:55,850 + And then you mentioned + the matter of - 176 - 00:11:23,230 --> 00:11:25,450 - Whenever they're there for a few, + 700 + 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:58,490 + fundamentalism. Our + Should you baptise? - 177 - 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:27,490 - we have nothing to do. + 701 + 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:00,095 + Conferences have always been - 178 - 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:28,960 - Really like it live in + 702 + 00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:04,175 + fundamental as far as + the Bible's concern. - 179 - 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,020 - the jail because to - have a fun around, + 703 + 00:31:04,175 --> 00:31:07,039 + Maybe they were so + simple that they were, - 180 - 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:34,220 - you cannot walk anywhere. + 704 + 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,410 + I don't mean that + in any bad sense, - 181 - 00:11:34,350 --> 00:11:36,730 - And I start working with + 705 + 00:31:09,410 --> 00:31:11,719 + but they just took + the word of God, - 182 - 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:43,910 - the IRC, International - Rescue Committee. + 706 + 00:31:11,719 --> 00:31:14,555 + as he says, And believe it. - 183 - 00:11:44,950 --> 00:11:48,540 - And what kind of work - were you doing with them? + 707 + 00:31:14,555 --> 00:31:16,700 + And we can illustrate + that in visualization. - 184 - 00:11:48,730 --> 00:11:53,930 - Doing the lab technician as + 708 + 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,420 + We did hygienes spoken. - 185 - 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:57,275 - the blood bank and keep the blood + 709 + 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:22,580 + He's got a band + that he should lie. - 186 - 00:11:57,275 --> 00:12:01,550 - ordered blood for - the hospital there. + 710 + 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,770 + Surely say it. And + that reenter fashion. - 187 - 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:05,540 - And I have some background - about that then + 711 + 00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:30,240 + While the whole Bible, you + know that word of God. - 188 - 00:12:05,540 --> 00:12:10,940 - that time I cannot speak - English very well. + 712 + 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:37,430 + Now what do we have for + climate conference? - 189 - 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:14,855 - So I just mixed with friends - and English all the time. + 713 + 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:40,115 + Hasn't tended to be very + contentious though. - 190 - 00:12:14,855 --> 00:12:17,525 - And my friend over - there teach me to + 714 + 00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:43,069 + As it, again, you know, - 191 - 00:12:17,525 --> 00:12:21,330 - Howard and keep - learning from them. + 715 + 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:45,680 + they have their + goods to the bush. - 192 - 00:12:23,890 --> 00:12:27,710 - Did you go to any other - camps after carried down, + 716 + 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,430 + Contention was about + the school, 1912. - 193 - 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:28,940 - where did you come directly + 717 + 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:51,590 + They didn't dare + to PIDA committee. - 194 - 00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:30,710 - to the United States after that? + 718 + 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:53,810 + My brother even arrows + there and he said, - 195 - 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:33,830 - Now, I work with + 719 + 00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:55,790 + I won't be appoint a committee + to study this thing. - 196 - 00:12:33,830 --> 00:12:37,370 - the International Red - Cross for a few months. + 720 + 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:56,930 + No, no, no, no. - 197 - 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:39,800 - And then at that time I file + 721 + 00:31:56,930 --> 00:31:58,520 + They wouldn't trust any committee - 198 - 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,220 - a petition to come - to United State. + 722 + 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,590 + that they finally did + appoint a committee. - 199 - 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:47,780 - And later on I was - a subnet to come. + 723 + 00:32:00,590 --> 00:32:02,359 + And no, they haven't - 200 - 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:52,160 - And I went to work with the JV, + 724 + 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,680 + been there's excuse me. + What was the problem? - 201 - 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,675 - a detailed jar - involuntary agency for + 725 + 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,244 + There was, well, + the geographical, - 202 - 00:12:56,675 --> 00:13:02,390 - interpreting how people - and 6AM until December 83. + 726 + 00:32:09,244 --> 00:32:11,600 + it wasn't just that + the faculty in Chicago - 203 - 00:13:02,390 --> 00:13:06,655 - They move my my summer, + 727 + 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,180 + didn't want to leave or + other, that's one thing. - 204 - 00:13:06,655 --> 00:13:13,040 - my wife, to a processing - cam and Sean Murray. + 728 + 00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:17,420 + And that they felt - 205 - 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,140 - And that time, the GABA-A + 729 + 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:19,340 + that we didn't have + anything here much. - 206 - 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:23,765 - won me to go back to work with - them again and carry down. + 730 + 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:20,645 + I mean, where are we now? - 207 - 00:13:23,765 --> 00:13:27,725 - And they asked me to and I say, + 731 + 00:32:20,645 --> 00:32:23,360 + Table? They felt that - 208 - 00:13:27,725 --> 00:13:29,600 - yes, decide to go back to work. + 732 + 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760 + the American seminary + would let them - 209 - 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,035 - But my wife and John - Murray came for awhile. + 733 + 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,430 + use Walker Hall, an old building. - 210 - 00:13:33,035 --> 00:13:36,545 - And after I've gone back to - work for a few about man. + 734 + 00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:31,579 + And they said that ship - 211 - 00:13:36,545 --> 00:13:39,260 - And they say that they + 735 + 00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:34,265 + the other side shed + with its an overhaul. - 212 - 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:41,750 - want my wife to go - to Philippine to + 736 + 00:32:34,265 --> 00:32:37,160 + Dr. Robert, earlier he was + on the school committee. - 213 - 00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:43,820 - learn English first and + 737 + 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,590 + Robert, he wrote misuse + or that thing that - 214 - 00:13:43,820 --> 00:13:47,270 - leave me to work with - them for six months. + 738 + 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,150 + the thing you zone + of white elephant - 215 - 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:50,645 - And I have an - algorithm with them. + 739 + 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:42,200 + essential. What did they do? - 216 - 00:13:50,645 --> 00:13:52,220 - I don't want to + 740 + 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,850 + Get a tweet, that's + white elephant. - 217 - 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:55,400 - separate that and my wife - doesn't want to do that. + 741 + 00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:46,340 + And another real estate + man or a builder - 218 - 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,060 - And then I break the - contract. I didn't work. + 742 + 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:49,205 + in Evanston who's on + the side of Chicago. - 219 - 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,580 - So they sent me and my wife - to know cam in Indonesia, + 743 + 00:32:49,205 --> 00:32:50,615 + He wrote that paper, - 220 - 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:06,870 - the color Golan cam. + 744 + 00:32:50,615 --> 00:32:53,360 + let the shoemaker + state with his lashed. - 221 - 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:15,125 - In I think the end of the - summer of 1983 along river. + 745 + 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,190 + He's a doctor. He + knows how to operate. - 222 - 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:21,440 - I stay there six months - until June 1984. + 746 + 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:57,440 + But you don't know anything + about a real-estate shut up? - 223 - 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,120 - During statesman, I work - with the United Nation. + 747 + 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,739 + In other words, that's + what Madison School - 224 - 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,585 - Kierkegaard, UNHCR. + 748 + 00:33:00,739 --> 00:33:04,910 + themselves because + they'll have a Ubers. - 225 - 00:14:29,585 --> 00:14:33,305 - What kind of work were - you doing for the UNHCR? + 749 + 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:07,429 + And but that's the + biggest contention - 226 - 00:14:33,305 --> 00:14:36,245 - They asked me to help + 750 + 00:33:07,429 --> 00:33:09,590 + we've had and it turned out fine. - 227 - 00:14:36,245 --> 00:14:40,460 - prepare check that - less of the employee + 751 + 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:13,159 + Do that. 1913, which + a peace conference - 228 - 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:43,940 - working there and then they paid + 752 + 00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:14,960 + that my brother didn't go. - 229 - 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:45,590 - as a salary every week + 753 + 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,429 + I didn't know he was working on - 230 - 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:48,450 - to the employee that - within the camp. + 754 + 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,360 + the cattle are going to get from - 231 - 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,030 - And then Okay. + 755 + 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,515 + the next year or something. - 232 - 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,970 - So then in 1984 you came - to the United States. + 756 + 00:33:18,515 --> 00:33:20,120 + And they said, Why + does your brother one, - 233 - 00:14:55,970 --> 00:15:00,005 - Yeah, I love Golan - cam to United State, + 757 + 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,820 + we want to see him and pasture. - 234 - 00:15:00,005 --> 00:15:03,259 - but stay a one week in Singapore. + 758 + 00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:24,529 + Hinrich stood up and gave - 235 - 00:15:03,259 --> 00:15:06,380 - Ten that the color processing, + 759 + 00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:26,570 + every part of my brother, + which was out of ij, - 236 - 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:09,800 - waiting for the flight to come. + 760 + 00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:30,889 + where he said but only did say - 237 - 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,890 - Okay. And while you were in + 761 + 00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:35,630 + He said he and my brother were + just close, like brothers, - 238 - 00:15:12,890 --> 00:15:15,260 - Indonesia and in - Singapore, you were also, + 762 + 00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:37,864 + you know, my brother + which __init__ - 239 - 00:15:15,260 --> 00:15:17,480 - they were telling - you or teaching you + 763 + 00:33:37,864 --> 00:33:39,439 + chert pregnant young people - 240 - 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,805 - about the United States and - how things operate here, + 764 + 00:33:39,439 --> 00:33:41,465 + who've been to Sunday + school led the choir. - 241 - 00:15:22,805 --> 00:15:25,010 - is that when you have a class + 765 + 00:33:41,465 --> 00:33:43,249 + And when I came, I became to - 242 - 00:15:25,010 --> 00:15:27,710 - teaching three months for people, + 766 + 00:33:43,249 --> 00:33:46,460 + prepare young people + to president. - 243 - 00:15:27,710 --> 00:15:31,055 - but I don't have a chance to - learn all of that because + 767 + 00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:49,700 + And didn't either + privately saying, - 244 - 00:15:31,055 --> 00:15:34,280 - they say that I can speak - English, I can understand. + 768 + 00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,409 + alright, began to preach - 245 - 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,240 - So they asked me to - work to help them. + 769 + 00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:52,820 + and travel, and + I'll mention them. - 246 - 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,945 - But eventually I got a - job with the UN ACR. + 770 + 00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:55,009 + But hemorrhage stood + up there and he, - 247 - 00:15:41,945 --> 00:15:47,195 - So they kind of go to the - class on a one hour a day. + 771 + 00:33:55,009 --> 00:33:58,730 + he praised my brother and + nutrition true university about - 248 - 00:15:47,195 --> 00:15:50,190 - And beside that, I - just go to work. + 772 + 00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:02,359 + true lady wearing stage - 249 - 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:53,180 - Okay. Did you fly directly to + 773 + 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:03,859 + where each stage we Room and the - 250 - 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,190 - Minnesota when you - left Singapore? + 774 + 00:34:03,859 --> 00:34:05,630 + wonderful family, + they haven't family. - 251 - 00:15:55,190 --> 00:16:01,190 - Yes. Okay. And did you - come to the twin cities + 775 + 00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:08,014 + She says she hadn't + got a single fall - 252 - 00:16:01,190 --> 00:16:04,130 - or Rochester or where did that I + 776 + 00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:10,459 + and had been quoted that + he was a kind of pellet, - 253 - 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:08,375 - can then seti because my - mother-in-law came here first. + 777 + 00:34:10,459 --> 00:34:11,870 + would put things across + to do everything. - 254 - 00:16:08,375 --> 00:16:15,530 - Okay. And so did you move - in with your mother-in-law? + 778 + 00:34:11,870 --> 00:34:13,280 + Remember who told me? Yes. - 255 - 00:16:15,530 --> 00:16:20,780 - Yeah. Okay. So what once - you relocated here, + 779 + 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,590 + All he was he was he + had a wonderful patch. - 256 - 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:23,120 - what what did what - were you doing? + 780 + 00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:19,895 + All my rebellion was every + Sunday night and so on. - 257 - 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,590 - Were you taking classes or did + 781 + 00:34:19,895 --> 00:34:23,359 + And them, and then they - 258 - 00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:27,750 - they have you start working? + 782 + 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:26,510 + had voted through this thing + then and Kodak to hate them. - 259 - 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:30,800 - The lowdown? + 783 + 00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:27,950 + And then this came on. - 260 - 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,245 - So say this is my sponsor. + 784 + 00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:29,719 + And then one of the pastors kinda - 261 - 00:16:33,245 --> 00:16:37,085 - And when I came, + 785 + 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,505 + sore about the whole thing. - 262 - 00:16:37,085 --> 00:16:42,560 - he has asked me to what job, + 786 + 00:34:31,505 --> 00:34:34,789 + He use sarcasm and he + got up and he said, - 263 - 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,310 - part time job that I want - to do, something like that. + 787 + 00:34:34,789 --> 00:34:37,729 + Well it's best to send the + school where the people are, - 264 - 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:52,760 - And they as I want - to go to school, + 788 + 00:34:37,729 --> 00:34:39,590 + the Buddhist where they - 265 - 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,855 - but I have no money, nothing. + 789 + 00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,800 + either Swedish and I + did a distant elastic, - 266 - 00:16:56,855 --> 00:16:59,840 - My sponsor, one meter, + 790 + 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,770 + I guess it is best to + celebrate people are the best. - 267 - 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,240 - you will find a job. + 791 + 00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:47,524 + And another pastor + loop, distribute, - 268 - 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,650 - Because they said I - can able to work. + 792 + 00:34:47,524 --> 00:34:50,240 + let's not have any That + sarcasm, nice additives. - 269 - 00:17:07,810 --> 00:17:11,690 - And about three weeks - after I sell in + 793 + 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:55,520 + And that fellow squashed + somewhere. It was, - 270 - 00:17:11,690 --> 00:17:14,900 - Minnesota and I got a job + 794 + 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,850 + it was forced out of University + of Chicago one allele. - 271 - 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:16,580 - because Sponsor work with + 795 + 00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:01,099 + And if they stop, - 272 - 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:18,380 - the latrines social - service and got + 796 + 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,870 + they stop the two they had - 273 - 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:23,255 - a part-time job there - for about two months. + 797 + 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:04,820 + paid for to professors + and they said, - 274 - 00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:27,365 - As the clerk, there's - help filing paper + 798 + 00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:05,929 + now you're strong + enough to pay for - 275 - 00:17:27,365 --> 00:17:33,035 - or keep track document for - the refugee that came. + 799 + 00:35:05,929 --> 00:35:07,640 + yourself. That's right. - 276 - 00:17:33,035 --> 00:17:36,065 - And after that. + 800 + 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,540 + And that was one + thing and so forth. - 277 - 00:17:36,065 --> 00:17:40,130 - The job was run now has nothing - to do and they get laid + 801 + 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:14,509 + But started to say + that the seminary had - 278 - 00:17:40,130 --> 00:17:45,230 - off or stay home about one way. + 802 + 00:35:14,509 --> 00:35:18,140 + their homes air and they + had two sons and daughters. - 279 - 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,350 - And then the community, + 803 + 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:19,625 + Some of them are fine. + + 804 + 00:35:19,625 --> 00:35:21,770 + And they loved where they - 280 - 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:52,010 - Cambodian community in Twin City, + 805 + 00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:24,350 + had their connections into + churches and schools. - 281 - 00:17:52,010 --> 00:17:55,925 - they need some body - that able to were. + 806 + 00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:26,720 + And it wasn't beautiful, - 282 - 00:17:55,925 --> 00:18:00,655 - And the, + 807 + 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,700 + Morgan Park, it was + beautiful and all of that. - 283 - 00:18:00,655 --> 00:18:02,770 - I know one of my teachers as + 808 + 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:33,650 + But anyway, what happened? - 284 - 00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:05,680 - the board member, - the urbanization. + 809 + 00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:36,515 + Happened and nitrous, + pretty nearly unanimous. - 285 - 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,180 - And the he asked me - to go to work there. + 810 + 00:35:36,515 --> 00:35:38,570 + Now, when they voted into + Luke, who you there? - 286 - 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:12,070 - And they offer me + 811 + 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:39,890 + When they voted on + taking money from - 287 - 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:18,110 - a job full-time job at - the director of a MA. + 812 + 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:41,570 + the government for + our school here. - 288 - 00:18:18,750 --> 00:18:24,715 - So I started that job - from September 84 + 813 + 00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:43,669 + I prayed I was there - 289 - 00:18:24,715 --> 00:18:31,225 - until October edify occur - because of a lot of pressure. + 814 + 00:35:43,669 --> 00:35:46,040 + at the time we had + that on Malmstrom. - 290 - 00:18:31,225 --> 00:18:33,880 - And the job is so - hard for me to do + 815 + 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,765 + I prayed, I said, Lord, - 291 - 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,390 - it because I'm new - in this country. + 816 + 00:35:47,765 --> 00:35:50,315 + whatever way it goes, + this is humbled. - 292 - 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:39,550 - I didn't know how to read fun. + 817 + 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,700 + Whatever way this goes, + Make it two to one, - 293 - 00:18:39,550 --> 00:18:41,870 - I didn't know how to looking + 818 + 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,130 + so that they won't be any + digital system in this thing. - 294 - 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:45,155 - for fun to support the program. + 819 + 00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:56,570 + So it'll be so overwhelming. - 295 - 00:18:45,155 --> 00:18:48,365 - Finally, I decide to quit. + 820 + 00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,850 + And it was two to one + in favor of not taking - 296 - 00:18:48,365 --> 00:18:53,330 - Before I quit, I'm lucky - that I got another job. + 821 + 00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:01,115 + government money. + Currently himself. - 297 - 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:54,770 - So the Ramsey County + 822 + 00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:02,300 + Dr. Len present himself, - 298 - 00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:56,780 - because I'm working - with them before. + 823 + 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:06,485 + spoken to the + ministers Minneapolis. - 299 - 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:59,960 - So they they know - only that asked me + 824 + 00:36:06,485 --> 00:36:08,195 + He himself stood there. - 300 - 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,090 - too because I said I + 825 + 00:36:08,195 --> 00:36:10,565 + He's my boy. He's + in my classroom. - 301 - 00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:04,565 - don't want to end up - placing it anymore. + 826 + 00:36:10,565 --> 00:36:12,260 + I love him and he loves me. - 302 - 00:19:04,565 --> 00:19:07,865 - And then they say - you can apply job in + 827 + 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:14,194 + But he said to those ministers, - 303 - 00:19:07,865 --> 00:19:09,680 - Ramsey County and then I apply + 828 + 00:36:14,194 --> 00:36:15,755 + you will never get away from it. - 304 - 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,840 - I got that job and - but I'm here now. + 829 + 00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:17,510 + If you take money + from the government, - 305 - 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,060 - Ok. And you're with - Ramsey County now? + 830 + 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:19,789 + they'll tell you what he said, - 306 - 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,805 - Yes. What is the what - kind of a job isn't + 831 + 00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:23,000 + that he, he didn't make a speech - 307 - 00:19:16,805 --> 00:19:19,820 - the first job that I got as + 832 + 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,320 + and they would be the ones - 308 - 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:23,615 - an interpreter to help - people in Ramsey County. + 833 + 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,690 + you so gracious + doctor encouraged. - 309 - 00:19:23,615 --> 00:19:27,425 - That about three years later, + 834 + 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:30,290 + And this invite, Dr. Len + crescendo on the platform. - 310 - 00:19:27,425 --> 00:19:30,530 - the county of tests + 835 + 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:31,955 + Climactic Li He shed. - 311 - 00:19:30,530 --> 00:19:33,980 - that I can take a test to - become a financial look. + 836 + 00:36:31,955 --> 00:36:36,575 + Now we're going to vote no + on whichever way this go, - 312 - 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:38,690 - And then I pass at - that time in 1989. + 837 + 00:36:36,575 --> 00:36:40,415 + whether it goes one way or the + other way, it's all right. - 313 - 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:40,880 - So I have become a - financial it then + 838 + 00:36:40,415 --> 00:36:41,540 + We'll just close. - 314 - 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,725 - Ramsey County, OK. Now, + 839 + 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:44,150 + Irange have worked + together in prayer. - 315 - 00:19:42,725 --> 00:19:47,045 - are you working with solely - with Cambodians and other + 840 + 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:45,934 + Lord that had beautiful - 316 - 00:19:47,045 --> 00:19:49,880 - Asians or are you working with + 841 + 00:36:45,934 --> 00:36:48,855 + and write in English + from his heart. - 317 - 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,045 - a wide variety of - groups of my job now? + 842 + 00:36:48,855 --> 00:36:51,669 + Well, that's good. You mentioned - 318 - 00:19:53,045 --> 00:19:57,200 - Yep. No, I'm working but - the American client. + 843 + 00:36:51,669 --> 00:36:56,125 + the strong allegiance to the War. - 319 - 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,090 - I'm not every fuji, + 844 + 00:36:56,125 --> 00:36:57,940 + Second World War. - 320 - 00:19:59,090 --> 00:20:00,350 - so no work at all. + 845 + 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:01,989 + Wasn't the conference + fairly antiwar - 321 - 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:07,820 - Okay. No. I preferred that - American because I know + 846 + 00:37:01,989 --> 00:37:05,830 + during the First World + War on its history? - 322 - 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:12,545 - too many people in - the community and + 847 + 00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,629 + And I wonder how does change, - 323 - 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,690 - I don't want to - involve that because + 848 + 00:37:07,629 --> 00:37:09,910 + while they were such a + spirit of patriotism - 324 - 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:17,975 - of the confidential Sure. + 849 + 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:12,430 + sweeping the edu.duke endeavor? - 325 - 00:20:17,975 --> 00:20:21,065 - And the problem with - communication or whatever. + 850 + 00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:15,145 + Some, no doubt as I would + be huge, like have some. - 326 - 00:20:21,065 --> 00:20:22,940 - So I write a little bit. + 851 + 00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:19,330 + But there were such + Illinois Loyalty. - 327 - 00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:25,775 - When they put me in - the job, they asked, + 852 + 00:37:19,330 --> 00:37:22,629 + And now that you even + had to harbor you go - 328 - 00:20:25,775 --> 00:20:27,950 - I didn't have a chance - to choose that, + 853 + 00:37:22,629 --> 00:37:26,515 + a scant gradations for your + food if they found people. - 329 - 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:29,960 - but they couldn't live up - at their mark on clients, + 854 + 00:37:26,515 --> 00:37:28,285 + One of my best friends URL, - 330 - 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,010 - so I decided to stay. + 855 + 00:37:28,285 --> 00:37:29,950 + that lawyer in Chicago, earnest. - 331 - 00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:32,180 - I didn't bow to let + 856 + 00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:31,320 + He stood up at my wedding. - 332 - 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:41,930 - each unit would or + 857 + 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,140 + Fairness to England. - 333 - 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,120 - are there things that - that concern you + 858 + 00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:36,229 + He, he's a lawyer in + Chicago, Principle Fellow, - 334 - 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,365 - or or problems that that you are. + 859 + 00:37:36,229 --> 00:37:38,000 + but he was a private officer to - 335 - 00:20:48,365 --> 00:20:51,350 - Face having been in - the United States, + 860 + 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,889 + go around and + chicken at homes and - 336 - 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,480 - particularly Minnesota - for the past few years. + 861 + 00:37:39,889 --> 00:37:43,535 + look at they had hidden + away potatoes are a flower. - 337 - 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 - Are there are there are - issues that that concern + 862 + 00:37:43,535 --> 00:37:45,965 + And he had carried + a gun, Revolver, - 338 - 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,380 - you are or you do think + 863 + 00:37:45,965 --> 00:37:48,230 + and that she, they, - 339 - 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:59,120 - about it a fair - amount in terms of, + 864 + 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:49,820 + that that was a crime. - 340 - 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,565 - of your transition into + 865 + 00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:51,380 + You shouldn't harbor food - 341 - 00:21:01,565 --> 00:21:03,290 - US society and also + 866 + 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:53,945 + or stone when he called + it store it and so on. - 342 - 00:21:03,290 --> 00:21:05,630 - perhaps fellow Cambodians - sort of moved here. + 867 + 00:37:53,945 --> 00:37:56,600 + But generally + speaking, I would say - 343 - 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:08,630 - Are there any kinds of - things that trouble you? + 868 + 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,280 + it and bang it bonds + was almost compulsory. - 344 - 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:13,640 - My concern is for - Cambodian people, + 869 + 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,799 + I was in big spring, South Dakota - 345 - 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,375 - especially the family without + 870 + 00:38:03,799 --> 00:38:06,199 + speaking for the layman - 346 - 00:21:17,375 --> 00:21:21,350 - a single family, single pattern. + 871 + 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,330 + for money for the + college building, - 347 - 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:27,200 - And also that moat - pendant and household. + 872 + 00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:13,230 + which had been the catabolic + pharmacology billing. And - 348 - 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:34,774 - Most of Cambodian that came - to United State during ARE. + 873 + 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,745 + they told of a man who came + over from, from Germany. - 349 - 00:21:34,774 --> 00:21:38,460 - So now most of them, + 874 + 00:38:18,745 --> 00:38:23,289 + He was chairman of crushers + hearing paper, Jeremy, - 350 - 00:21:38,650 --> 00:21:47,465 - they don't have a lot our - education background, + 875 + 00:38:23,289 --> 00:38:25,570 + and he had made a + lot of money and - 351 - 00:21:47,465 --> 00:21:50,105 - and most of them farmer + 876 + 00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:28,525 + an officer went to him + and he said how much. - 352 - 00:21:50,105 --> 00:21:54,230 - or a citizen that - live in the city, + 877 + 00:38:28,525 --> 00:38:31,585 + He asked him about his + property and he answered two. - 353 - 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:57,920 - but they did not have - a good background + 878 + 00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:34,690 + He said How how many cavity + you had? So on, so on. - 354 - 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:05,300 - about the skill that - fit in this society. + 879 + 00:38:34,690 --> 00:38:36,369 + So how much of that + you'll want to - 355 - 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,980 - And they have a lot of - problem to adjusted. + 880 + 00:38:36,369 --> 00:38:39,325 + Antoine Shuangcheng, + that's on software. - 356 - 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,905 - But for myself that I can speak, + 881 + 00:38:39,325 --> 00:38:41,054 + You've made it an American made - 357 - 00:22:12,905 --> 00:22:16,100 - I cannot just faster than them. + 882 + 00:38:41,054 --> 00:38:43,195 + right here in this + state didn't change. - 358 - 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:21,080 - And the people that they know - nothing about the language, + 883 + 00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:45,069 + And you aren't going + to buy an elaborate - 359 - 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,610 - they tend to be really - hard to adjust them. + 884 + 00:38:45,069 --> 00:38:48,535 + about, I tell you what you do. - 360 - 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:28,970 - And the family that + 885 + 00:38:48,535 --> 00:38:52,900 + You go back to your + homeland, the way of Cain. - 361 - 00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:35,030 - some people that cannot read - or write their own language, + 886 + 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:57,410 + Leave this here. I'm not saying + that because she did it. - 362 - 00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:39,080 - as it's rarely frosted - them for them to learn + 887 + 00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:02,030 + And good reasons, you're - 363 - 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,210 - the other Langley because + 888 + 00:39:02,030 --> 00:39:03,890 + not appreciating that you've + made all their money here. - 364 - 00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:43,535 - they all know they don't - know how to read and write. + 889 + 00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:05,689 + You had opportunities + and yet you set - 365 - 00:22:43,535 --> 00:22:45,620 - They know how to - speed communication, + 890 + 00:39:05,689 --> 00:39:07,985 + your foot down + against cooperation. - 366 - 00:22:45,620 --> 00:22:47,390 - but for reading and writing, + 891 + 00:39:07,985 --> 00:39:10,370 + Where then the + Germans said, well, - 367 - 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:50,990 - it's really hard and - it made them more + 892 + 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:12,994 + what do you want to + do that and said, - 368 - 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:55,580 - harder than anybody - that can speak, read, + 893 + 00:39:12,994 --> 00:39:16,655 + I want you to buy $40 + thousand abundancy setups. - 369 - 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,860 - and write their - own name and says, + 894 + 00:39:16,655 --> 00:39:17,390 + And he did it. - 370 - 00:22:57,860 --> 00:22:59,330 - my concern is that + 895 + 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,805 + He did it, he did well. - 371 - 00:22:59,330 --> 00:23:03,290 - those people are really - hard to adjust to this, + 896 + 00:39:19,805 --> 00:39:21,080 + Cz you had those. - 372 - 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:08,540 - this society and that the state. + 897 + 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,510 + It did one by month and that. - 373 - 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:11,030 - They gobble men and this + 898 + 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:25,880 + But most people did. + Who could? Who could? - 374 - 00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:14,430 - they should understand - and it should help them. + 899 + 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,250 + Every church had a service flag, - 375 - 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,550 - Do you think, what do you - think would be the best, + 900 + 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,875 + and this isn't very + conspicuous place. - 376 - 00:23:19,550 --> 00:23:22,100 - best approach to that education? + 901 + 00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:33,890 + The 990s annual conference listed - 377 - 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:27,080 - Or what do you + 902 + 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:36,529 + every single somebody's + Baptist border - 378 - 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,730 - think would work in terms + 903 + 00:39:36,529 --> 00:39:38,929 + was in service. So + there was a kind of - 379 - 00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:31,625 - of perhaps helping - them adjust better? + 904 + 00:39:38,929 --> 00:39:43,609 + and yet just I had recall + that tax of Anderson - 380 - 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:34,294 - They need a lot of support. + 905 + 00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:46,880 + and read to us at + our church one time - 381 - 00:23:34,294 --> 00:23:38,284 - Especially the families support, + 906 + 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,945 + a resolution which was made + that was very anti war. - 382 - 00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:42,830 - because they used to live in + 907 + 00:39:50,945 --> 00:39:54,110 + I thought that from the + early part where there were - 383 - 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:45,740 - the the period of time + 908 + 00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:57,485 + some of that other were + anti-war reservoirs. - 384 - 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:49,835 - that have a lot of - crisis that need to Y. + 909 + 00:39:57,485 --> 00:39:58,789 + There were these general, - 385 - 00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:53,870 - And also that they - have a horrible time. + 910 + 00:39:58,789 --> 00:40:01,850 + and I'm just wondering how + they played really well, - 386 - 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:57,800 - That they never, they - cannot forget about that. + 911 + 00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:05,660 + but it's real sentiment + was not that well. - 387 - 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 - Because of the the life + 912 + 00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:08,030 + I don't think there + will your mind, - 388 - 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,025 - that they have gone through - during the tomorrows, + 913 + 00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:10,370 + but yeah, it was a + case of patriotism. - 389 - 00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:11,360 - make them some people - that almost lost memory. + 914 + 00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:12,559 + But right now it's - 390 - 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:17,420 - They become so much The Press. + 915 + 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:16,369 + interesting that she had - 391 - 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:20,900 - But they don't know - how to speak out. + 916 + 00:40:16,369 --> 00:40:20,900 + Wb right towards the area + during all this time. - 392 - 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:24,755 - They don't know how - to tell the ADA and + 917 + 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,020 + What kind of relationships + did the school, - 393 - 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:30,155 - our culture people nothing - one to share their problem, + 918 + 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:27,440 + and I'm very glad + close really rally. - 394 - 00:24:30,155 --> 00:24:35,930 - to be either unless they trust - Azariah, close relative. + 919 + 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,029 + The last years I had + the honor of being - 395 - 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:39,695 - If you are working, - tried to help them. + 920 + 00:40:29,029 --> 00:40:31,310 + a close friend of + Dr. alienated me. - 396 - 00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:40,925 - If they don't know you, + 921 + 00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:32,824 + His last letter to me, - 397 - 00:24:40,925 --> 00:24:42,920 - they don't want to - share any idea or + 922 + 00:40:32,824 --> 00:40:37,009 + you said that I don't + know why it was wonderful - 398 - 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,095 - they don't want to share - any problem with you. + 923 + 00:40:37,009 --> 00:40:41,719 + to she was in his + last letter to me, - 399 - 00:24:45,095 --> 00:24:47,015 - So you cannot help them. + 924 + 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,880 + I would not see him and + even when he was sick. - 400 - 00:24:47,015 --> 00:24:49,820 - But if they understand - the culture, + 925 + 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,280 + And so what ever happened to me? - 401 - 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:51,410 - they understand a problem, + 926 + 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,569 + He says, I may not be here - 402 - 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:53,240 - trying to help them. + 927 + 00:40:47,569 --> 00:40:50,930 + La Jolla in all the + years at your school. - 403 - 00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,750 - Sometime people offer the - problem so we can help them. + 928 + 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:53,510 + And my school has been + here in the Twin Cities. - 404 - 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,900 - And the other thing + 929 + 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:55,219 + We have not found anything to - 405 - 00:25:06,490 --> 00:25:11,945 - right now is that the - kid growing up here, + 930 + 00:40:55,219 --> 00:40:57,709 + criticize your school + either spiritually, - 406 - 00:25:11,945 --> 00:25:15,815 - they'd learn the lay at - faster than the parent. + 931 + 00:40:57,709 --> 00:41:00,725 + Oscar, elastically, we've + had one preferred learning. - 407 - 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:20,060 - And then to have a - different point of view, + 932 + 00:41:00,725 --> 00:41:03,245 + And then he said, we'd + ever happened to me. - 408 - 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,480 - some care did grow up in - the cam when he came here. + 933 + 00:41:03,245 --> 00:41:04,879 + I belongs to the Lord. Of course, - 409 - 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,840 - They don't know about the - Cambodia culture at all. + 934 + 00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:06,064 + whatever happens to me, - 410 - 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,295 - And then the chi - Laika have a problem + 935 + 00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:08,089 + I want you to + continue to speak to - 411 - 00:25:31,295 --> 00:25:36,770 - between parents and children - and between because the kid, + 936 + 00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:10,025 + the Northwestern students - 412 - 00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:38,990 - when they live in home, + 937 + 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:12,755 + and where we had that privilege. - 413 - 00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:40,490 - depend on one num to be + 938 + 00:41:12,755 --> 00:41:15,170 + And I wish we had - 414 - 00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:44,735 - Cambodian to discipline them - the way that they work. + 939 + 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:18,740 + the January Conference here + and we had it in 5246. - 415 - 00:25:44,735 --> 00:25:46,160 - Well when they go to school, + 940 + 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:20,945 + I think this was on the campus. - 416 - 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,115 - they have another law - that they must follow. + 941 + 00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:22,850 + And I I was challenged + on a conference. - 417 - 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,220 - There must obey - that, this society. + 942 + 00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:24,920 + Chairman 52. Awesome. + But on their way. - 418 - 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:54,515 - And then when they go back - to school, Chi legged, + 943 + 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,844 + And I was chairman twice anyway, - 419 - 00:25:54,515 --> 00:25:58,235 - two different society for - them that it's hard to her. + 944 + 00:41:27,844 --> 00:41:31,249 + and we've got Dr. Ryan + and to give a series of - 420 - 00:25:58,235 --> 00:25:59,990 - So it essay, we need to have + 945 + 00:41:31,249 --> 00:41:33,334 + talks to the General Conference - 421 - 00:25:59,990 --> 00:26:02,900 - some people that understand - a problem tried to + 946 + 00:41:33,334 --> 00:41:35,330 + and he's drive would + come with him. - 422 - 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:07,040 - help him to adjusted by - offering my education + 947 + 00:41:35,330 --> 00:41:37,009 + I said Dr. Riley, - 423 - 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,465 - to them or some kind acre - or training to them, + 948 + 00:41:37,009 --> 00:41:39,755 + give us give us + victorious life torch. - 424 - 00:26:11,465 --> 00:26:15,140 - trying to know made them - and wild with the society, + 949 + 00:41:39,755 --> 00:41:42,905 + And then I'm going to do + just what you're saying. - 425 - 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,720 - become a productive citizen. + 950 + 00:41:42,905 --> 00:41:45,035 + I want to try not + to talk too long. - 426 - 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,870 - How do you feel that, + 951 + 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:47,210 + We had it in the + hippodrome in February. - 427 - 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:25,420 - that you've worked on a lot of + 952 + 00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:50,930 + She then piggybacked + on their first time. - 428 - 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:30,160 - the in terms of what you - went through in Cambodia, + 953 + 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:51,979 + We had to have it another hall - 429 - 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,710 - Do you feel that you've - had opportunities to, + 954 + 00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:53,210 + than the hippodrome is built for. - 430 - 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:34,480 - to address that the, + 955 + 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:56,509 + The second one, environment - 431 - 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,465 - the experience and work - through all of that yourself. + 956 + 00:41:56,509 --> 00:41:59,150 + was in charge of + reception preparation. - 432 - 00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:39,925 - You feel like you. I think so. + 957 + 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,199 + Keys to wish, you know, - 433 - 00:26:39,925 --> 00:26:45,610 - Because when you go to you - can see a lot of thing. + 958 + 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,700 + I think like readmission. - 434 - 00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:49,495 - Most of I feel that I + 959 + 00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:09,920 + Dr. Riley had some controversies + here via evolution. - 435 - 00:26:49,495 --> 00:26:52,840 - know a lot of thing - in this country, + 960 + 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,275 + Yes, yes. That's kinda + funny. At times. - 436 - 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,480 - mod and I knew in my hand. + 961 + 00:42:15,275 --> 00:42:17,029 + He, he was going to speak at - 437 - 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,735 - And tell me late - the government or + 962 + 00:42:17,029 --> 00:42:20,240 + the University of Minnesota + and then something happens, - 438 - 00:26:58,735 --> 00:27:04,325 - the system how to - process in this society. + 963 + 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,475 + so he couldn't do it. - 439 - 00:27:04,325 --> 00:27:06,710 - Because when I was in Cambodia, + 964 + 00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:25,099 + And the kind of credit + abroad that they turned it - 440 - 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,990 - I didn't know about the Congress. + 965 + 00:42:25,099 --> 00:42:29,405 + down and that made it put it + out in English, clear sign. - 441 - 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:11,285 - How many Congress - in Cambodia Hub, + 966 + 00:42:29,405 --> 00:42:31,595 + And some president + Kaufmann, he said, - 442 - 00:27:11,285 --> 00:27:12,940 - how the legislature work, + 967 + 00:42:31,595 --> 00:42:34,760 + we'll have him said we were + not rejecting against him. - 443 - 00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:14,540 - something like that because in + 968 + 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,770 + I don't know what the + cause of the other wedge. - 444 - 00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:16,805 - school they never - teach you to learn. + 969 + 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:38,809 + And so he arranged to have - 445 - 00:27:16,805 --> 00:27:22,295 - They just gave you all these - samurai general literature, + 970 + 00:42:38,809 --> 00:42:41,989 + William Jennings + Bryan to have Dr. - 446 - 00:27:22,295 --> 00:27:25,805 - little bit math, a little - bit, some like that. + 971 + 00:42:41,989 --> 00:42:44,930 + Riley and to speak + and announced that - 447 - 00:27:25,805 --> 00:27:30,140 - Unless you get into - the university, + 972 + 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:48,620 + the university so you'd have + a free reign right away. - 448 - 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:35,630 - you trying to be a doctor - or a professor or whatever. + 973 + 00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:50,240 + And then something happened. - 449 - 00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:36,740 - And then you can know + 974 + 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,980 + Just a doctor, violet - 450 - 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:39,320 - only the brand that - you go and needs. + 975 + 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:54,049 + Kaufman was pregnant. Uterus has - 451 - 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,985 - No general knowledge - like this society. + 976 + 00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:55,880 + rightly or roaster speech. - 452 - 00:27:43,985 --> 00:27:49,400 - So is people like myself - that want to learn more, + 977 + 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,150 + So packed up above the + ceiling with lub dub. - 453 - 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,734 - want to have a better - understanding. + 978 + 00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:03,439 + Amongst the artificial + monkey showed was that - 454 - 00:27:53,734 --> 00:27:56,990 - English can communicate - with the people here. + 979 + 00:43:03,439 --> 00:43:06,139 + rescue Fred Ryan and - 455 - 00:27:56,990 --> 00:28:00,050 - So we have a better chance to + 980 + 00:43:06,139 --> 00:43:08,600 + President COP and leapt + up like a gentleman. - 456 - 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:03,230 - adjust to live in this society. + 981 + 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,294 + He says, I want to apologize, + + 982 + 00:43:10,294 --> 00:43:11,750 + Dr. Riley, for this. - 457 - 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:07,730 - So people that I think the - problem is the communication. + 983 + 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:14,570 + It's a prank and + were ashamed of it. - 458 - 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:09,680 - If the people can - learn the language + 984 + 00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:16,460 + You said that was well done. - 459 - 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,290 - faster so they can adjust - whatever they won. + 985 + 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:25,620 + You've seen in another + debate name was Dr. Schmidt. - 460 - 00:28:14,350 --> 00:28:19,230 - Okay. Stu law. 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+ 990 + 00:43:34,904 --> 00:43:39,490 + rather it's published + match right there. - 6 - 00:00:32,075 --> 00:00:35,495 - What kind of coping mechanisms - have you developed? + 991 + 00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:43,450 + And that speaker broader + monkey and rarely leave. - 7 - 00:00:35,495 --> 00:00:39,450 - How have you worked out - all of those issues? + 992 + 00:43:43,450 --> 00:43:46,990 + We says, I see, I + see I was mistaken. - 8 - 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,075 - Until right now? + 993 + 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:50,110 + I thought I was going to + speak to Dr. Schmidt, - 9 - 00:00:47,075 --> 00:00:51,530 - When I think about + 994 + 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:51,519 + but now I'm speaking to the Smith - 10 - 00:00:51,530 --> 00:00:55,385 - the when the tie and - doing the command, + 995 + 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:57,670 + Brother's got the government + took the OD is just wrong. - 11 - 00:00:55,385 --> 00:00:58,700 - I still have a bad dream. + 996 + 00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:02,830 + And I guess everybody + around them, Dr. Riley was, - 12 - 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:06,215 - Usually if the hot and - so tired during the day. + 997 + 00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:05,830 + as I understood it, a great + brand and the labor and - 13 - 00:01:06,215 --> 00:01:08,135 - And you go to sleep. + 998 + 00:44:05,830 --> 00:44:08,815 + the poor in his cargo. - 14 - 00:01:08,135 --> 00:01:12,055 - Alvin dream about - during the time. + 999 + 00:44:08,815 --> 00:44:11,350 + Yes, but he didn't + let him run him. - 15 - 00:01:12,055 --> 00:01:16,960 - Sometime I saw blade to Meroe, + 1000 + 00:44:11,350 --> 00:44:16,610 + He didn't let a running VM + or human friend. All right? - 16 - 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,020 - are the people with - the leader to come + 1001 + 00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:20,130 + He was, he was a genius. - 17 - 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:23,785 - out or the shoulder that - trying to catch me, + 1002 + 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:24,335 + They had a debate in this church - 18 - 00:01:23,785 --> 00:01:25,750 - wanted to kill me something. + 1003 + 00:44:24,335 --> 00:44:28,250 + and nobody wish to speak + with those two speakers. - 19 - 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:31,570 - And after terrible - nightmare light + 1004 + 00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:30,349 + And one rally agreed with, - 20 - 00:01:31,570 --> 00:01:35,110 - that just woke up in - the middle of May and + 1005 + 00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:32,210 + and the other one of course, + he didn't agree with. - 21 - 00:01:35,110 --> 00:01:38,905 - I couldn't sleep at - R. So out of my mind, + 1006 + 00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:34,970 + And when averaged over, - 22 - 00:01:38,905 --> 00:01:46,405 - you're thinking I start to - trying to suppress them down, + 1007 + 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:39,350 + nobody was allowed to speak + notion and interests over. - 23 - 00:01:46,405 --> 00:01:48,520 - tried to forget about that. + 1008 + 00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:42,065 + Dr. Riley had been + an estimate to make. - 24 - 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,495 - Trying to think about the - future instead of the path. + 1009 + 00:44:42,065 --> 00:44:44,360 + And so he got a big announcement. - 25 - 00:01:52,495 --> 00:01:56,870 - And I don't want to Aldo dream. + 1010 + 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,829 + And then he said, and by the way, - 26 - 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:59,785 - Come back again in my mind. + 1011 + 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:47,269 + I'd like to say this, - 27 - 00:01:59,785 --> 00:02:02,829 - This is just trying to think - everything in the future. + 1012 + 00:44:47,269 --> 00:44:48,499 + I think I'll take over - 28 - 00:02:02,829 --> 00:02:04,690 - What most of the - time when they have + 1013 + 00:44:48,499 --> 00:44:49,880 + the preacher purse + because he's easy. - 29 - 00:02:04,690 --> 00:02:07,930 - that dream late that - icon sleep RNA. + 1014 + 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,795 + Stan Lee said wonders + appreciative. - 30 - 00:02:07,930 --> 00:02:14,560 - And trying to take like a - medicine to may get headache, + 1015 + 00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:55,460 + And then he went and + covered the whole 6-bit, - 31 - 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,930 - take medicine so they can sleep. + 1016 + 00:44:55,460 --> 00:45:00,080 + took away the flag victory. - 32 - 00:02:16,930 --> 00:02:23,800 - And especially I try to work, + 1017 + 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,779 + He expressed sided one, - 33 - 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,400 - but this is just only myself that + 1018 + 00:45:02,779 --> 00:45:05,675 + I think while I think he + disagreed with both of them. - 34 - 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,929 - I know that I can forget - all those thing easily. + 1019 + 00:45:05,675 --> 00:45:08,090 + So he says handled + administer versus easiest. - 35 - 00:02:31,929 --> 00:02:36,095 - Because solver, working the data, + 1020 + 00:45:08,090 --> 00:45:09,169 + And likewise that helped, - 36 - 00:02:36,095 --> 00:02:38,375 - people have a lot of friend, + 1021 + 00:45:09,169 --> 00:45:12,485 + you know, the other + side how many? - 37 - 00:02:38,375 --> 00:02:41,990 - tough about the future toddler - by something else that + 1022 + 00:45:12,485 --> 00:45:14,960 + He covered both of them and - 38 - 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:48,530 - fun because I can easy - to forget our dosing. + 1023 + 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,330 + got in the what he called + the truth than the matter. - 39 - 00:02:48,530 --> 00:02:49,970 - But if it comes up to + 1024 + 00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:22,730 + You're smart. Did you + preach in your rallies? - 40 - 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:54,680 - my mind that take - at least 24 hours, + 1025 + 00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:27,139 + Charity I purchase I + Princeton at the time, - 41 - 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,475 - something like that, this - wondering around those thing. + 1026 + 00:45:27,139 --> 00:45:30,680 + maybe that pitch duration and + Tabernacle Baptist Church. - 42 - 00:02:58,475 --> 00:03:02,285 - And I know you've got a problem. + 1027 + 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,570 + But I preached in 50 churches - 43 - 00:03:02,285 --> 00:03:04,385 - Just walk away. + 1028 + 00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:34,670 + inter-institutional + with smaller Jersey. - 44 - 00:03:04,385 --> 00:03:07,650 - Take all, go somewhere. + 1029 + 00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:37,474 + Yeah, I'm Swedish Baptist, - 45 - 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:11,390 - Our tile with a friend, - different subject. + 1030 + 00:45:37,474 --> 00:45:41,340 + American Baptist, + Presbyterian, Luther, - 46 - 00:03:11,390 --> 00:03:13,190 - Try to forget that. + 1031 + 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:49,460 + Episcopalian ones, and + sometimes junior services. - 47 - 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:16,550 - Sometime like have an - American friend asking + 1032 + 00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:51,425 + I had an illustration. - 48 - 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:18,950 - about AS topping a little bit + 1033 + 00:45:51,425 --> 00:45:53,135 + We'll close with this shabby, - 49 - 00:03:18,950 --> 00:03:22,080 - and then one day - chained to the Odyssey. + 1034 + 00:45:53,135 --> 00:45:56,375 + This is beautiful, and + they want me to repeat it. - 50 - 00:03:24,430 --> 00:03:27,770 - Well, do you have - anything else that you'd + 1035 + 00:45:56,375 --> 00:45:59,000 + A man was way out in the wilds - 51 - 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:31,320 - like to add that we - haven't covered? + 1036 + 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,475 + of the Northwest United States, - 52 - 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:38,840 - I don't know. That's that's + 1037 + 00:46:01,475 --> 00:46:04,009 + and he was all alone, - 53 - 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,740 - all of the questions I - have for now. Thank you. - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:18 GMT + 1038 + 00:46:04,009 --> 00:46:07,890 + working as a pioneer + and he dug a well. + recorded_at: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 00:51:45 GMT recorded_with: VCR 6.1.0 diff --git a/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb b/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb index 2582580c..510a1cc8 100644 --- a/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb +++ b/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ module MDL describe CaptionsFormatter do around do |spec| - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions') { spec.run } + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions', tag: :kaltura) { spec.run } end describe '.format' do diff --git a/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb b/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb index c8fff9d3..89335286 100644 --- a/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb +++ b/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb @@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ module MDL end it 'calls Kaltura to get the playlist, and the the content' do - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/audio_playlist') do + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/audio_playlist', tag: :kaltura) do expect(JSON.parse(result, symbolize_names: true )).to eq([ { entry_id: '1_aodbyxua', duration: 665, name: 'Interview with Vishant Shah, Part 1' }, { entry_id: '1_880z74b6', duration: 608, name: 'Interview with Vishant Shah, Part 2' }, @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ module MDL end it 'fetches the playlist from Kaltura' do - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/video_playlist') do + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/video_playlist', tag: :kaltura) do parsed_result = JSON.parse(result, symbolize_names: true ) expect(parsed_result.size).to eq(2) diff --git a/spec/rails_helper.rb b/spec/rails_helper.rb index f45b4aa3..ddfedeef 100644 --- a/spec/rails_helper.rb +++ b/spec/rails_helper.rb @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ } config.ignore_localhost = true # config.debug_logger = $stdout - config.filter_sensitive_data('') do |int| + config.filter_sensitive_data('', :kaltura) do |int| req = int.request next unless req.uri.match(%r{www.kaltura.com}) @@ -36,13 +36,31 @@ when :get then req.uri.match(/ks=(.*)\z/).captures[0] end end - config.before_playback do |interaction| - req = interaction.request + config.filter_sensitive_data('', :kaltura) do |int| + req = int.request + next unless req.method == :post + next unless req.uri.match(%r{www.kaltura.com}) + + JSON.parse(req.body)['kalsig'] + end + ### + # VCR hook called before the cassette is matched against an outgoing request. + # Here we must reverse the effects of the +filter_sensitive_data+ hooks above. + # Unfortunately, that includes recalculating the request signature applied by + # the Kaltura SDK. + config.before_playback(:kaltura) do |int| + req = int.request next unless req.uri.match(%r{www.kaltura.com}) case req.method - when :post then req.body.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION']) - when :get then req.uri.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION']) + when :get then req.uri.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION'].to_s) + when :post + req.body.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION'].to_s) + client = Kaltura::KalturaClient.new(Kaltura::KalturaConfiguration.new) + params = JSON.parse(req.body).except('kalsig') + sig = client.signature(params) + params['kalsig'] = sig + req.body = JSON.generate(params) end end end diff --git a/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb b/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb index 6e667c57..403cb7eb 100644 --- a/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb +++ b/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ describe FetchCaptionService do around do |spec| - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions') { spec.run } + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions', tag: :kaltura) { spec.run } end context 'when there is more than one format available' do