From 8e1ee7baef9c7045dfdf29bc1efb2df751926848 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Dan Olson Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 21:20:40 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Improve VCR cassette management for Kaltura requests Previously recorded cassettes were written assuming a specifc KALTURA_SESSION environment variable was present. That variable is used to generate the kalsig param as well (a request signature), and so we need to account for both the missing env var, and the effect that has on the signature. --- .../vcr_cassettes/kaltura/captions.yml | 24874 ++++++++-------- spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb | 2 +- .../kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb | 4 +- spec/rails_helper.rb | 28 +- spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb | 2 +- 5 files changed, 12463 insertions(+), 12447 deletions(-) diff --git a/spec/fixtures/vcr_cassettes/kaltura/captions.yml b/spec/fixtures/vcr_cassettes/kaltura/captions.yml index 62b5aebf..a7ef063d 100644 --- a/spec/fixtures/vcr_cassettes/kaltura/captions.yml +++ b/spec/fixtures/vcr_cassettes/kaltura/captions.yml @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ http_interactions: uri: http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/service/caption_captionasset/action/list body: encoding: UTF-8 - string: '{"filter":{"entryIdEqual":"0_2f0zy0t1","objectType":"KalturaAssetFilter"},"ks":"","format":2,"clientTag":"ruby:22-07-27","apiVersion":"18.10.0","kalsig":"1909fef2c26819ccd60f55df9b4e7722"}' + string: '{"filter":{"entryIdEqual":"0_2f0zy0t1","objectType":"KalturaAssetFilter"},"ks":"","format":2,"clientTag":"ruby:22-07-27","apiVersion":"18.10.0","kalsig":""}' headers: Accept: - text/xml @@ -25,20 +25,20 @@ http_interactions: message: OK headers: Date: - - Thu, 23 May 2024 00:24:20 GMT + - Thu, 22 Aug 2024 00:34:51 GMT Content-Type: - text/xml;charset=UTF-8 Content-Length: - - '576' + - '578' Connection: - keep-alive X-Me: - - nvp1-fapi-bnghh + - nvp1-fapi-4vjb4 Access-Control-Expose-Headers: - Server, Content-Length, Content-Range, Date, X-Kaltura, X-Kaltura-Session, X-Me X-Kaltura-Session: - - 1372270516, 1716423860 + - 703396194, 1724286891 Access-Control-Allow-Origin: - "*" Expires: @@ -47,20 +47,18 @@ http_interactions: - no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0 Pragma: - no-cache - X-Kaltura: - - cache-key,cache_v3-5fe5671ecf4d43c044f19a3716271601 Vary: - Accept-Encoding X-Proxy-Me: - - nvp1-front-proxy-green-ng-65f78b6fbb-zt9nf + - nvp1-front-proxy-blue-ng-78fdb57f7b-8hh7q X-Proxy-Session: - - bbc6408d823d341e298de26c216ae87e + - 291bfc87b775a38b615cf917f8c33afc Server: - Kaltura body: encoding: ASCII-8BIT - string: KalturaCaptionAssetListResponse2KalturaCaptionAsset1_7a2prfnn0_2f0zy0t11369852114240DFXP1495614470158049398900Englishen1220KalturaCaptionAsset1_mdng1qgl0_2f0zy0t11369852120954srt1580493988158049399000Englishen129111_5gzeqrag,1_h9qs78ak0.022434949874878 - 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cache-key,cache_v3-e702eb0eb205f446f436c040ac2e2b75 Last-Modified: - Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:52:00 GMT Accept-Ranges: @@ -1561,11489 +1620,11505 @@ http_interactions: Vary: - Accept-Encoding X-Proxy-Me: - - nvp1-front-proxy-green-ng-65f78b6fbb-cvc9l + - nvp1-front-proxy-blue-ng-78fdb57f7b-k5rdj X-Proxy-Session: - - 418e7281f97aca033044c762ce838c48 + - b03940295ad739e9bfc188fea8ff2a1a Server: - Kaltura body: encoding: ASCII-8BIT string: | 1 - 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,100 - That'll college - and seminary today + 00:00:05,570 --> 00:00:09,255 + Hello. Today is July 30th, 1992. 2 - 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,470 - come with me through - these gates to + 00:00:09,255 --> 00:00:10,680 + My name is Mark Fry. 3 - 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:16,780 - a beautiful all new canvas, + 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,260 + I'm a volunteer lawyer + interviewer for 4 - 00:00:16,780 --> 00:00:18,760 - indeed a proper setting for + 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:15,780 + the Khmer archives + project organized by 5 - 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,080 - the Christian liberal arts + 00:00:15,780 --> 00:00:16,740 + the Minnesota lawyers 6 - 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,090 - and conservative - theological education. + 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,675 + international human + rights committee. 7 - 00:00:23,730 --> 00:00:27,145 - Looking at our campus - from the Southeast, + 00:00:18,675 --> 00:00:22,530 + I'm interviewing chum + runtime and the location 8 - 00:00:27,145 --> 00:00:30,460 - we see the college and seminary - located in the beautiful, + 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:24,645 + of this interview is + cable access studio 9 - 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:33,340 - rolling wooded hills - beside lake Valentine. + 00:00:24,645 --> 00:00:27,250 + in Saint Paul, Minnesota. 10 - 00:00:33,340 --> 00:00:37,750 - This is just five miles - north of our old campus. + 00:00:36,490 --> 00:00:41,225 + Hello, chum Ron. First of all, 11 - 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:42,015 - Here the emphasis is on - the seminary complex + 00:00:41,225 --> 00:00:44,780 + where were you born in Cambodia? 12 - 00:00:42,015 --> 00:00:46,320 - campus, as it appears - from the west. + 00:00:44,780 --> 00:00:49,805 + Home. I was born in + cm and a city is 13 - 00:00:46,450 --> 00:00:48,740 - This area will someday be + 00:00:49,805 --> 00:00:54,965 + not less of Cambodia Care. 14 - 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:52,200 - occupied by the - administration building. + 00:00:54,965 --> 00:00:58,535 + How long did you + live in that locale? 15 - 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,280 - Bethel probably boasts one of + 00:00:58,535 --> 00:01:02,150 + I lived a few years + and after that, 16 - 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,270 - the most beautiful campus - settings in the country. + 00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:04,370 + my pattern little bat to live 17 - 00:00:59,270 --> 00:01:02,000 - Each of the college - buildings is connected with + 00:01:04,370 --> 00:01:08,000 + in Cambodia in Metabolic City. 18 - 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,805 - the other building by a - weatherproof walkway, + 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,950 + Ok. How many brothers and + sisters did you have? 19 - 00:01:04,805 --> 00:01:06,875 - both above and below ground. + 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:21,270 + I have fall. 20 - 00:01:06,875 --> 00:01:08,840 - Hi, I'm sure you will - agree if you walk + 00:01:22,570 --> 00:01:26,225 + Fall brought an end to syste. 21 - 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,060 - between the buildings - on the Old Campus, + 00:01:26,225 --> 00:01:30,365 + But right now only to be ally. 22 - 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:14,210 - this indeed is a worthy edition. + 00:01:30,365 --> 00:01:32,885 + And one brought us + did in Cambodia 23 - 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:16,400 - We look at the campus now from + 00:01:32,885 --> 00:01:36,455 + and one sister in California. 24 - 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,105 - the east with the new - townhouses and view. + 00:01:36,455 --> 00:01:41,090 + Care. What does your + ethnic background? 25 - 00:01:20,105 --> 00:01:22,550 - This is the field of conflict for + 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:45,875 + And the Cambodian but + someone pop from Chinese. 26 - 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:25,190 - football, baseball, and soccer + 00:01:45,875 --> 00:01:49,879 + Okay. What did your father 27 - 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:28,595 - athletics out - important at Bethel. + 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:53,675 + and mother do while you + lived in Battambang? 28 - 00:01:28,595 --> 00:01:31,100 - Our new dorms consist of + 00:01:53,675 --> 00:01:58,790 + The Apple working + on down business. 29 - 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,725 - 14 units and two - clusters of seven. + 00:01:58,790 --> 00:02:03,110 + And my mom yes. 30 - 00:01:33,725 --> 00:01:37,580 - We can house 2221 unit 234, + 00:02:03,110 --> 00:02:06,005 + Dealing as mod of business, 31 - 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:41,210 - and the other a total of 456. + 00:02:06,005 --> 00:02:08,885 + sounding like it'll say + something like that. 32 - 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:43,760 - And they are all filled with + 00:02:08,885 --> 00:02:13,580 + Okay. Did you you've 33 - 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,940 - the housing on the Old - Campus filled as well. + 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:14,990 + spent most of your + time growing up 34 - 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:50,570 - Each apartment - contains six students. + 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:16,880 + in Battambang that yes. 35 - 00:01:50,570 --> 00:01:53,960 - There is a health center and - recreation room available in + 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:25,430 + Okay. Do you remember 36 - 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,500 - this complex and all the - other complexes as well. + 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:28,145 + when the Khmer Rouge + came to power? 37 - 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:00,320 - The total enrollment in - this year will run between + 00:02:28,145 --> 00:02:34,800 + And less than April 17th, 1975. 38 - 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:06,575 - 12851300 in the college in - about 240 in the seminary. - + 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,120 + And you were in + Battambang At the time? + 39 - 00:02:06,575 --> 00:02:09,110 - This was the first dormitory to + 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,475 + No lab lesson. Plumping city. 40 - 00:02:09,110 --> 00:02:11,060 - have been constructed - on the new campus. + 00:02:40,475 --> 00:02:42,140 + Okay. What were you + doing in Phnom Penh 41 - 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:14,000 - It holds 120 students. + 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:45,950 + sorting and that time I + list the police office, 42 - 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,430 - Here's located one of + 00:02:45,950 --> 00:02:51,110 + the ok. How long have you + been living in Phnom Penh? 43 - 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:19,595 - the most up-to-date libraries - in the state of Minnesota. + 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:54,200 + Sorry. This amo to + you. Two years. 44 - 00:02:19,595 --> 00:02:21,980 - It is on two levels. + 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,840 + Okay. What happened when 45 - 00:02:21,980 --> 00:02:24,260 - Individual study units provide + 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,400 + the Khmer Rouge came to power 46 - 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:25,790 - privacy for tape recording, + 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,900 + during those first few days? 47 - 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:27,320 - as well as other functions + 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:05,105 + Do you recall that time? 48 - 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,420 - which will be difficult - to accomplish. + 00:03:05,105 --> 00:03:10,175 + I the first day of April 17, 49 - 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:31,489 - In the main library, + 00:03:10,175 --> 00:03:12,680 + I went to pick up 50 - 00:02:31,489 --> 00:02:34,070 - our students have access not only + 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,540 + my friend that I live + with them in plumping. 51 - 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:36,545 - to our 79 thousand volumes, + 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:21,830 + From the airport + and boating tongue. 52 - 00:02:36,545 --> 00:02:38,780 - but any consortium of - seven other colleges, + 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:23,870 + When I came back home, 53 - 00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:41,194 - as well as the Hill library, + 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:28,370 + that they will decide + to stay there. 54 - 00:02:41,194 --> 00:02:43,520 - they can reach a total of + 00:03:28,370 --> 00:03:32,390 + And everybody in the neighbor, 55 - 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,130 - 3 million volumes within - two days of requests, + 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:34,070 + they start to move because 56 - 00:02:47,289 --> 00:02:49,730 - >> students have access to cast + 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:37,100 + the the Camaro soldier asked 57 - 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:53,705 - that duplicated photo - laboratory movie slide, + 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:41,180 + us to leave the town + only three day. 58 - 00:02:53,705 --> 00:02:55,385 - overhead projection equipment, + 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:43,160 + And that times many, 59 - 00:02:55,385 --> 00:02:58,470 - as well as TV tape reproduction. + 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,070 + many people on the street. 60 - 00:03:01,930 --> 00:03:05,030 - The Bethel Bain 70 + 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:48,755 + And we cannot get + out from the place. 61 - 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:08,970 - strong is under the direction - of Dr. Julius wedding + 00:03:48,755 --> 00:03:50,180 + So we decide to stay 62 - 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,100 - string students at - Bethel are part of + 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:54,650 + one night and a house + and a nice morning. 63 - 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:23,780 - the Minnesota Mining Orchestra + 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:59,285 + The part everything + It's not all belonging. 64 - 00:03:23,780 --> 00:03:26,370 - under Dr. Wendy girls direction. + 00:03:59,285 --> 00:04:02,450 + Take along wet because + I thought that 65 - 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:39,800 - The women's choir, the - newest musical group, + 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:05,930 + we can come back to + the city about 33 day. 66 - 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,480 - is about 12 years old, + 00:04:05,930 --> 00:04:10,430 + So we just take some of + belonging along with that. 67 - 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,950 - and this year will feature + 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:17,510 + And the morning of + April 181975, I care. 68 - 00:03:42,950 --> 00:03:46,980 - 48 students under the - direction of Mary fall. + 00:04:17,510 --> 00:04:20,645 + Where did you go when you + whack Phnom Penh, Sorry. 69 - 00:03:57,370 --> 00:04:00,200 - The male chorus is - perhaps the oldest, + 00:04:20,645 --> 00:04:23,945 + I went with my friend + that I live with them, 70 - 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,850 - the battles musical groups, + 00:04:23,945 --> 00:04:32,150 + goes south to Japan, 71 - 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:04,910 - and it's under the capable - direction of c. Edward Thomas, + 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:41,545 + Bo just across Mekong River + to the is of plumping city. 72 - 00:04:04,910 --> 00:04:07,220 - popular Midwestern - musician and professor + 00:04:41,545 --> 00:04:44,305 + And then may decide + to stay there. 73 - 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:13,320 - at Bethel all grace. + 00:04:44,305 --> 00:04:48,370 + But generally, we can't + stay because they come 74 - 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:22,520 - Dr. Robert burglar and - directs the college choir, + 00:04:48,370 --> 00:04:49,810 + out or sold yet tried to 75 - 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,980 - which will tour the - East Coast this year + 00:04:49,810 --> 00:04:52,750 + pause to move + farther and farther. 76 - 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:39,410 - on special occasions, - the quires or + 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:58,570 + And the when to one + place they call not up 77 - 00:04:39,410 --> 00:04:42,110 - combine with other students - to make a great festival. + 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:05,690 + from about ten kilo meter + from non-being city. 78 - 00:04:42,110 --> 00:04:44,390 - Choir here creature with + 00:05:06,330 --> 00:05:10,450 + At that time, were soldiers + guarding over you or 79 - 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:48,450 - a Minnesota Orchestra during - the spring Music Festival. + 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:12,040 + were you allowed to move 80 - 00:04:58,599 --> 00:05:02,390 - >> The art department offers - exciting possibilities + 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,125 + freely on your own + with your friend? 81 - 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:07,590 - in painting, sculpture, ceramics. + 00:05:14,125 --> 00:05:17,470 + In my area, they + allow me to go so 82 - 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:10,280 - Instruction is given on + 00:05:17,470 --> 00:05:21,310 + only it cannot go + different direction. 83 - 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,840 - a personal basis in + 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:24,440 + Okay. What happened + after all of this? 84 - 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,465 - an atmosphere of informality - and understanding. + 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:30,530 + Then? I stay there about + a month and then know, 85 - 00:05:14,465 --> 00:05:18,120 - Numerous art exhibits are - held during the year. + 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:33,935 + tend to go back to the city. 86 - 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,895 - Bethel is noted for its - sound liberal arts program. + 00:05:33,935 --> 00:05:38,225 + And then my friend + and I decide to 87 - 00:05:22,895 --> 00:05:24,500 - It is fully accredited by + 00:05:38,225 --> 00:05:41,660 + leave and make decision to 88 - 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:26,540 - the North Central - Association of Colleges - + 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:45,020 + go to the hometown + and his hometown, + 89 - 00:05:26,540 --> 00:05:27,935 - and secondary schools. + 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:50,510 + this is cmd province and + my hometown is bottom bar. 90 - 00:05:27,935 --> 00:05:30,140 - And as the unqualified - recognition of + 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:53,540 + So I wanted to go + to see my pattern. 91 - 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,870 - the University of Minnesota is + 00:05:53,540 --> 00:05:56,385 + Okay. Were you able to 92 - 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:36,755 - one of the finest private - college labs in the area. + 00:05:56,385 --> 00:06:01,080 + to travel to Battambang or + were you stopped beforehand? 93 - 00:05:36,755 --> 00:05:39,290 - A good safety feature is + 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:08,510 + I can't stop by the + the tomato soldier to 94 - 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:42,290 - the chemistry safety shower + 00:06:08,510 --> 00:06:14,690 + stay in one small + village between CMB, 95 - 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:45,905 - with particular preparation - for eye protection. + 00:06:14,690 --> 00:06:18,110 + a province and + combinatorial problem. 96 - 00:05:45,905 --> 00:05:48,320 - The study a biological function + 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:21,660 + They call poem to. 97 - 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,825 - is a joy in this facility. + 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:26,400 + Yeah. 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This time trauma. - 98 - 00:05:50,825 --> 00:05:54,560 - Physics receives at - proper due in this area. + 2 + 00:00:17,950 --> 00:00:23,020 + And approximately how + old were you doing? - 99 - 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,825 - And other areas include - preparation for public education. + 3 + 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:25,014 + They come out of it? - 100 - 00:05:59,825 --> 00:06:03,725 - Here is one of our student - teachers in action. + 4 + 00:00:25,014 --> 00:00:28,645 + Yeah. That's 20 years old. - 101 - 00:06:03,725 --> 00:06:06,710 - Well, time fails. + 5 + 00:00:28,645 --> 00:00:32,650 + 20. Okay. Now, okay. - 102 - 00:06:06,710 --> 00:06:09,020 - Meter mentioned is they - deserve to be mentioned. + 6 + 00:00:32,650 --> 00:00:37,434 + You were you able to make + it travel to bottom Bond? - 103 - 00:06:09,020 --> 00:06:12,650 - Biblical studies, foreign - languages, history, + 7 + 00:00:37,434 --> 00:00:40,179 + Did you did you eventually + arrive in Battambang to see - 104 - 00:06:12,650 --> 00:06:16,100 - political science, - philosophy, psychology, + 8 + 00:00:40,179 --> 00:00:43,680 + your family or did they + stop you before then? - 105 - 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:19,590 - social studies, Speech and Drama. + 9 + 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:51,275 + No. They they try to stop me + and my friend along the way. - 106 - 00:06:22,930 --> 00:06:26,435 - There are many ways for - self-expression battle. + 10 + 00:00:51,275 --> 00:00:57,395 + But yes, to not lie to them + and make them want to stay - 107 - 00:06:26,435 --> 00:06:28,475 - If you are sports minded, + 11 + 00:00:57,395 --> 00:00:59,644 + at a different place like that - 108 - 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:31,310 - you can be an - enthusiastic spectator + 12 + 00:00:59,644 --> 00:01:04,220 + because I did not know + any body know relative. - 109 - 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:35,525 - or a participant on - intramural are varsity level. + 13 + 00:01:04,220 --> 00:01:07,715 + So just trying to get away. - 110 - 00:06:35,525 --> 00:06:37,340 - Eight different sports are + 14 + 00:01:07,715 --> 00:01:11,495 + But I cannot at that time. - 111 - 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:39,080 - conducted on the varsity level. + 15 + 00:01:11,495 --> 00:01:14,975 + That's why the last - 112 - 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,890 - And Bethel is a member the - tri-state athletic conference. + 16 + 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:19,804 + stop that I stay in + Kampala, Tom problem, - 113 - 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:47,675 - Perhaps your thing is - basketball or track. + 17 + 00:01:19,804 --> 00:01:24,590 + they call poem to + me that the relay - 114 - 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:49,790 - The grunt and grow an artist have + 18 + 00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:30,424 + is separate between same + ramp and couple of thumb. - 115 - 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:51,770 - their share of the limelight. + 19 + 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:33,920 + Okay. Now was a village - 116 - 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:56,370 - Our football wires do and - die for good. Old Bethel. + 20 + 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,350 + that was established by the + Khmer Rouge or was this - 117 - 00:06:56,770 --> 00:07:00,680 - Bethel has had championship - tennis squats. + 21 + 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:38,419 + an existence because of the + Khmer Rouge came to visit - 118 - 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,355 - Baseball brings honour - to AJ alma mater. + 22 + 00:01:38,419 --> 00:01:43,834 + the existing village that + along the highway numbers say. - 119 - 00:07:04,355 --> 00:07:06,740 - Now soccer has been + 23 + 00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:48,845 + Okay. How long did + you remain there? - 120 - 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:10,085 - successfully added to - the velocity program. + 24 + 00:01:48,845 --> 00:01:52,264 + I stayed there until + the Vietnamese - 121 - 00:07:10,085 --> 00:07:13,160 - Our lovely young - ladies are in hand for + 25 + 00:01:52,264 --> 00:01:58,505 + came in January ninth, 1979. - 122 - 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,930 - all major events to encourage + 26 + 00:01:58,505 --> 00:02:04,174 + Okay. Whether many Khmer + Rouge soldiers there, - 123 - 00:07:14,930 --> 00:07:17,790 - both participants and spectators. + 27 + 00:02:04,174 --> 00:02:06,395 + not so many there, - 124 - 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:24,950 - A most important part - of the Bethel story is + 28 + 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:08,225 + but that their latest, - 125 - 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:26,480 - the contribution of the seminary + 29 + 00:02:08,225 --> 00:02:11,540 + the, at the old place that - 126 - 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,295 - to the Baptist - general conference, + 30 + 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:19,559 + the commando capture + during 1970 occur. - 127 - 00:07:28,295 --> 00:07:31,835 - as well as to all major - evangelical groups. + 31 + 00:02:19,630 --> 00:02:22,100 + How many, how many of you were - 128 - 00:07:31,835 --> 00:07:33,710 - Since its inception, + 32 + 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:27,304 + there that were being guarded or, - 129 - 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:35,840 - theological studies - at Bethel seminary + 33 + 00:02:27,304 --> 00:02:29,795 + or held there by the Khmer Rouge. - 130 - 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,370 - had been set within the framework + 34 + 00:02:29,795 --> 00:02:36,305 + The people that while + alone at that time, - 131 - 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:40,230 - of historic evangelical theology. + 35 + 00:02:36,305 --> 00:02:40,504 + as I remember, has + about 200 people. - 132 - 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:43,010 - Particular emphasis has been + 36 + 00:02:40,504 --> 00:02:44,300 + And they let us stay there. - 133 - 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:45,020 - placed upon a - theology which gives + 37 + 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:49,220 + And then they put + lay one family one. - 134 - 00:07:45,020 --> 00:07:49,505 - primacy to the Bible as the - source of Christian doctrine. + 38 + 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:50,420 + How would they call - 135 - 00:07:49,505 --> 00:07:51,890 - Major attention has been given to + 39 + 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:54,514 + the old people to leave + with them so they can - 136 - 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:54,875 - the foundational truths - of evangelical theology, + 40 + 00:02:54,514 --> 00:03:00,560 + provide shout and some + food or material. - 137 - 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:57,515 - such as the reliability - of the scriptures, + 41 + 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,915 + A little bit hard + to live with them. - 138 - 00:07:57,515 --> 00:07:59,195 - THE gravity of man, + 42 + 00:03:02,915 --> 00:03:05,884 + Okay. Now, what do you + mean by the wrong people? - 139 - 00:07:59,195 --> 00:08:01,565 - the necessity of - divine redemption, + 43 + 00:03:05,884 --> 00:03:08,690 + That mean the people + that live that - 140 - 00:08:01,565 --> 00:08:03,590 - personal regeneration, + 44 + 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:12,200 + the Camaro before the Khmer - 141 - 00:08:03,590 --> 00:08:05,525 - the resurrection of believers, + 45 + 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,795 + captured the whole Cambodia Care. - 142 - 00:08:05,525 --> 00:08:07,460 - and the imminent - visible return of + 46 + 00:03:14,795 --> 00:03:18,199 + Okay. Were you in a household - 143 - 00:08:07,460 --> 00:08:09,230 - Jesus Christ, our Lord. + 47 + 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,940 + with another family or with - 144 - 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:11,930 - And say, Dr. Gordon Johnson + 48 + 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:22,040 + your friend or who did you ever? - 145 - 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:14,090 - announced this year - that Bethel graduated + 49 + 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,124 + I live with my friend and + his wife, two children. - 146 - 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:16,910 - 55 seniors and is currently + 50 + 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:32,390 + Okay. Now, while you + were living here, - 147 - 00:08:16,910 --> 00:08:17,990 - enrolling between - - 148 - 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:21,240 - two hundred and forty and two - hundred and fifty students. + 51 + 00:03:32,730 --> 00:03:34,930 + do they have you do - 149 - 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:25,775 - Bethel is far more - than its buildings. + 52 + 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:38,335 + work or what did you + do during the day? - 150 - 00:08:25,775 --> 00:08:29,705 - Bethel is more than superior - academic achievement. + 53 + 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:40,479 + Yes. They said nato. - 151 - 00:08:29,705 --> 00:08:33,350 - Bethel is even bigger than - the all important graduation + 54 + 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:43,405 + Let them right away + then the next day. - 152 - 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:39,950 - on Bethel is bigger than - any personal achievement. + 55 + 00:03:43,405 --> 00:03:45,760 + Okay. And what kind of + work do they have you? - 153 - 00:08:39,950 --> 00:08:41,930 - As important as it is, + 56 + 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:55,435 + Do? They send me to live with + the to date the bloody car, - 154 - 00:08:41,930 --> 00:08:45,799 - Bethel is a corporate - opportunity to grow with others + 57 + 00:03:55,435 --> 00:04:00,280 + like a small stream that + file from the place - 155 - 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:49,080 - >> in spiritual - outreach and develop. + 58 + 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,350 + that they live while + in the flawed I sub - 156 - 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:53,315 - Although chapel is not - required at Bethel, + 59 + 00:04:02,350 --> 00:04:05,979 + L phi to say kilo meter. - 157 - 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:56,030 - it is most significant - that most of + 60 + 00:04:05,979 --> 00:04:09,984 + And here were these + irrigation ditches? - 158 - 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:59,610 - the student body unites - each day for worship. + 61 + 00:04:09,984 --> 00:04:14,105 + Yeah. Okay. What other kinds + of work do they have you do? - 159 - 00:08:59,740 --> 00:09:02,690 - Time to time, the - entire student body, + 62 + 00:04:14,105 --> 00:04:16,489 + Just the first time? - 160 - 00:09:02,690 --> 00:09:03,920 - both seminary in college, + 63 + 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:18,589 + Will they introduce us as - 161 - 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,950 - meet outdoors in a great - natural ampitheater. + 64 + 00:04:18,589 --> 00:04:21,515 + a No people come to + live in the village - 162 - 00:09:08,050 --> 00:09:12,260 - Jerry Healy shares with - us student testimonies. + 65 + 00:04:21,515 --> 00:04:27,514 + and they tie lake + a very cheerful, - 163 - 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:14,790 - Now from our campus + 66 + 00:04:27,514 --> 00:04:30,350 + trying to make us happy + to leave with them. - 164 - 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,010 - is a Christian + 67 + 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:32,494 + And they asked us to help. - 165 - 00:09:28,010 --> 00:09:30,815 - arts colleague, James - Theological Seminary + 68 + 00:04:32,494 --> 00:04:35,899 + Little whatever they've + been assigned to - 166 - 00:09:30,815 --> 00:09:34,745 - dedicated to the development - of a strong people, + 69 + 00:04:35,899 --> 00:04:39,560 + do, Hokkaido will occur. - 167 - 00:09:34,745 --> 00:09:39,260 - fully matures, sensitive, - and inner directed. + 70 + 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,964 + So we're most of the tasks + agricultural planting? - 168 - 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:41,885 - A people continually growing + 71 + 00:04:42,964 --> 00:04:45,919 + Yes. Okay. Today, were you - 169 - 00:09:41,885 --> 00:09:45,185 - toward the model of Jesus Christ. + 72 + 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:49,504 + involved with road construction, + anything like that? - 170 - 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:49,070 - I've only been at Beth - and I think the thing + 73 + 00:04:49,504 --> 00:04:51,259 + Mostly agricultural tasks? - 171 - 00:09:49,070 --> 00:09:52,610 - that impresses me the most - was the Christian community. + 74 + 00:04:51,259 --> 00:04:55,009 + No. The first three months just - 172 - 00:09:52,610 --> 00:09:56,360 - Yes, I think it's so - important to integrate + 75 + 00:04:55,009 --> 00:05:00,530 + only taking irrigation + water plan for that place. - 173 - 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,290 - academic and special thanks + 76 + 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:04,519 + And then after three months, - 174 - 00:10:00,290 --> 00:10:05,255 - to the thing I most crazy about, + 77 + 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,160 + they send us mad + because that time is - 175 - 00:10:05,255 --> 00:10:07,520 - about FAFSA is that + 78 + 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,294 + the time to plan race. - 176 - 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,935 - it's been sorry about - the whole person. + 79 + 00:05:10,294 --> 00:05:13,669 + So they send us mat and + we cannot do anymore. - 177 - 00:10:09,935 --> 00:10:14,195 - Academic or intellectual - or spiritual Sosa. + 80 + 00:05:13,669 --> 00:05:16,970 + I'm going to have to heavy rain. - 178 - 00:10:14,195 --> 00:10:15,590 - But watching such that I can have + 81 + 00:05:16,970 --> 00:05:19,730 + So let's come back to + the village trying to - 179 - 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:17,165 - a relationship between faculty. + 82 + 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:23,399 + plan to help the other + people. Don't care. - 180 - 00:10:17,165 --> 00:10:20,495 - Ostinato festivals are really + 83 + 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,339 + How, what would be a + typical workday in terms - 181 - 00:10:20,495 --> 00:10:23,395 - sincere and they really - want to be loved. + 84 + 00:05:28,339 --> 00:05:31,220 + of in terms of the amount of + time that you would work, - 182 - 00:10:23,395 --> 00:10:27,785 - People town opening my mind + 85 + 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:33,020 + when would you start + in the morning - 183 - 00:10:27,785 --> 00:10:31,940 - to expand on almost any - broad thing that I want to. + 86 + 00:05:33,020 --> 00:05:35,060 + and end at the end of the day. - 184 - 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:34,365 - Education I'm getting - here is type. + 87 + 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:38,105 + First year that the + Khmer Rouge took over. - 185 - 00:10:34,365 --> 00:10:35,990 - And that I think has + 88 + 00:05:38,105 --> 00:05:40,789 + The work hours not really tie - 186 - 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:38,450 - prepared me for the - direction I'm going. + 89 + 00:05:40,789 --> 00:05:44,615 + like the old farmer used to work. - 187 - 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:41,585 - I think it's given us a - quality education advisor, + 90 + 00:05:44,615 --> 00:05:46,699 + In the morning. We get up, - 188 - 00:10:41,585 --> 00:10:43,280 - confidence learning, + 91 + 00:05:46,699 --> 00:05:49,250 + usually have a tiny plate first - 189 - 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,990 - part of that community - experience I + 92 + 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:51,499 + a little bit and start to go to - 190 - 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:46,670 - see as it's trying to find + 93 + 00:05:51,499 --> 00:05:56,915 + the feel about nine AM + and until the sunset. - 191 - 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:48,500 - a way to relate - what we're learning + 94 + 00:05:56,915 --> 00:06:00,139 + Combat home. Okay. That + was the first year. - 192 - 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,360 - in our classes to our - Christian experience. + 95 + 00:06:00,139 --> 00:06:02,735 + They did things + change after there. - 193 - 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:58,265 - >> But what about Bethel? + 96 + 00:06:02,735 --> 00:06:06,050 + And then Neitzsche + years they start - 194 - 00:10:58,265 --> 00:11:01,625 - In a day when colleges are - closing all over the nation, + 97 + 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:08,839 + to trying to push people to - 195 - 00:11:01,625 --> 00:11:04,820 - when enrollments are - falling off at seminaries. + 98 + 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:14,990 + the mall by trying - 196 - 00:11:04,820 --> 00:11:08,640 - What about Bethel, Dr. Lundquist? + 99 + 00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:16,399 + to wake up people early in - 197 - 00:11:09,730 --> 00:11:12,800 - I have just begun my 20th year as + 100 + 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,934 + the morning and go to the feel. - 198 - 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,320 - president of Bethel - College in seminary. + 101 + 00:06:18,934 --> 00:06:23,315 + Okay. What time do you + think that that was? - 199 - 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,780 - And I want to say that - from the perspective + 102 + 00:06:23,315 --> 00:06:25,549 + When when they would have you - 200 - 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:20,690 - of almost two decades - in this office, + 103 + 00:06:25,549 --> 00:06:28,504 + sent you out to the + fields to start working? - 201 - 00:11:20,690 --> 00:11:22,790 - that the work of - leading our college + 104 + 00:06:28,504 --> 00:06:32,509 + Nominee that they don't + have time and I don't know, - 202 - 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,770 - and our Seminary - has never been more + 105 + 00:06:32,509 --> 00:06:36,590 + but is it the sunrise on + everybody and need to get up. - 203 - 00:11:24,770 --> 00:11:27,335 - exciting or more satisfying + 106 + 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:39,470 + Ok. And was that was that - 204 - 00:11:27,335 --> 00:11:30,635 - or more challenging - than it is this year. + 107 + 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:41,374 + the way the workday - 205 - 00:11:30,635 --> 00:11:32,300 - I'm so glad that when + 108 + 00:06:41,374 --> 00:06:43,144 + went for the rest of the + time you were there? - 206 - 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,610 - the Lord called me - into his service, + 109 + 00:06:43,144 --> 00:06:45,245 + Sunrise to sunset? + Yeah, absolutely. - 207 - 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:38,690 - sign me to the task of - working with young people. + 110 + 00:06:45,245 --> 00:06:48,740 + Sometime when the out they need - 208 - 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:40,610 - And I have a sense of + 111 + 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:52,309 + to finish and then + they don't have - 209 - 00:11:40,610 --> 00:11:44,120 - great personal satisfaction - in seeking to relate + 112 + 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:54,559 + enough time to do the push + that to live at night - 210 - 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,270 - my own life and - commitment to Christ to + 113 + 00:06:54,559 --> 00:06:59,690 + to become home and a little bit, - 211 - 00:11:47,270 --> 00:11:49,010 - the hundreds of - young people who are + 114 + 00:06:59,690 --> 00:07:01,849 + and then we must go back again. - 212 - 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:51,260 - on the campus year after year, + 115 + 00:07:01,849 --> 00:07:07,130 + Okay. I've heard that, - 213 - 00:11:51,260 --> 00:11:55,130 - and pray that as they - find their place in life, + 116 + 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:09,619 + that they would have + educational seminars - 214 - 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:57,980 - God will use them to help shape + 117 + 00:07:09,619 --> 00:07:12,679 + to to learn the + philosophy of Pol Pot. - 215 - 00:11:57,980 --> 00:12:01,775 - the future of our world - with Christian values. + 118 + 00:07:12,679 --> 00:07:14,750 + Did they do that at, - 216 - 00:12:01,775 --> 00:12:04,550 - During the course of the - two decades that I've + 119 + 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:17,180 + at your village where you stayed? - 217 - 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:07,160 - had the privilege of being - on the Bethel campus, + 120 + 00:07:17,180 --> 00:07:21,350 + Jealously? They do + at the lunchtime. - 218 - 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,300 - I would guess that I have had - the opportunity of working + 121 + 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:23,090 + When people have a break. - 219 - 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:13,730 - directly or indirectly with - - 220 - 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:16,970 - more than 15 thousand - young people. + 122 + 00:07:23,090 --> 00:07:25,175 + After eating a little bit, - 221 - 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,325 - And wherever I go - around the world, + 123 + 00:07:25,175 --> 00:07:30,889 + the group leader choose + to give some advice - 222 - 00:12:19,325 --> 00:12:22,055 - I see them busy for Jesus Christ. + 124 + 00:07:30,889 --> 00:07:32,990 + and trying to ask about - 223 - 00:12:22,055 --> 00:12:24,950 - They are in almost every - field of endeavor. + 125 + 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:35,300 + the background for the new people - 224 - 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:26,884 - Some are college president's, + 126 + 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:37,504 + that come to live in the VLA. - 225 - 00:12:26,884 --> 00:12:29,360 - some are presence of - Christian schools like + 127 + 00:07:37,504 --> 00:07:43,325 + And sometime they do at NIH + after we finished split, - 226 - 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,895 - Bethel College and a seminary. + 128 + 00:07:43,325 --> 00:07:46,099 + they obey, asked to + have a meeting to learn - 227 - 00:12:31,895 --> 00:12:34,475 - Some are teachers in - public universities, + 129 + 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:49,625 + about the that new philosophy. - 228 - 00:12:34,475 --> 00:12:38,105 - some are doctors and - lawyers and businessmen. + 130 + 00:07:49,625 --> 00:07:51,559 + Was that usually every, - 229 - 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:40,730 - Many are social workers and are + 131 + 00:07:51,559 --> 00:07:54,484 + every day, that that + would take place. - 230 - 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:44,300 - extending their lives into - this field of human endeavor. + 132 + 00:07:54,484 --> 00:07:56,930 + The first years, not every day, - 231 - 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:46,970 - Many are missionaries - and pastors on + 133 + 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:59,945 + but kind like a + almost every week. - 232 - 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:50,765 - the front line proclaiming - the gospel of Jesus Christ. + 134 + 00:07:59,945 --> 00:08:01,950 + Okay. - 233 - 00:12:50,765 --> 00:12:52,670 - I always come back from seeing + 135 + 00:08:10,660 --> 00:08:13,054 + Did did they - 234 - 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:54,320 - these alumni at work around + 136 + 00:08:13,054 --> 00:08:16,159 + ask you about your + background at all? - 235 - 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,430 - the world praising God all - over again for the share that + 137 + 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:19,250 + They did. Okay. But I lie. - 236 - 00:12:58,430 --> 00:13:02,090 - Mrs. Lundquist and I - have in their lives. + 138 + 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:21,184 + And what would you tell them? - 237 - 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:04,850 - Just the other day, I - received a note from + 139 + 00:08:21,184 --> 00:08:26,165 + I told them I was a stone + and they believe it - 238 - 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:07,445 - a young girl who - graduated last spring. + 140 + 00:08:26,165 --> 00:08:28,340 + because I was young + that time and I'm - 239 - 00:13:07,445 --> 00:13:08,870 - He's now the director of + 141 + 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:31,160 + not married and I was + not meant at that time. - 240 - 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:11,480 - a Bible school program - on the west coast. + 142 + 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,469 + What would happen if you + told them your background? - 241 - 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,090 - She wrote saying that during - the preceding summer, + 143 + 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,454 + When I was there + the first few Day, - 242 - 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:15,140 - she had the chance of + 144 + 00:08:39,454 --> 00:08:42,050 + the people that I live with, - 243 - 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:16,910 - leading 71 children to + 145 + 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:46,069 + they told me how to sit, - 244 - 00:13:16,910 --> 00:13:19,265 - a saving knowledge - of Jesus Christ. + 146 + 00:08:46,069 --> 00:08:51,349 + Why don't tell + everything to truth. - 245 - 00:13:19,265 --> 00:13:23,780 - So she was writing out a great - enthusiasm along with it. + 147 + 00:08:51,349 --> 00:09:00,620 + And because they have that + family have some feeling, - 246 - 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:25,910 - This young girl just - a few months out of + 148 + 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:04,415 + one to help us to survive + during that time. - 247 - 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:29,870 - Bethel and closed a - money order for $40, + 149 + 00:09:04,415 --> 00:09:13,354 + So they told her to destroy + all kind of identification. - 248 - 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:34,130 - her first gift as an - alumna to her alma mater. + 150 + 00:09:13,354 --> 00:09:18,619 + Some work may be that + I brought with us, - 249 - 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:36,875 - With it, she said a little note, + 151 + 00:09:18,619 --> 00:09:22,370 + gave to the people that + because they don't - 250 - 00:13:36,875 --> 00:13:40,595 - you might be interested - in one paragraph of it. + 152 + 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:26,450 + have paper to roll the tobacco. - 251 - 00:13:40,595 --> 00:13:42,395 - This young girl wrote, + 153 + 00:09:26,450 --> 00:09:28,429 + So as good as you + gave it to them, - 252 - 00:13:42,395 --> 00:13:45,200 - I graduated from - Bethel this past May, + 154 + 00:09:28,429 --> 00:09:31,650 + you don't keep it. + That mean safe. - 253 - 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,970 - and I never told you how much. + 155 + 00:09:34,330 --> 00:09:37,730 + If you what about - 254 - 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:48,710 - I appreciate both of you. + 156 + 00:09:37,730 --> 00:09:41,565 + your background would make + them suspicious of you? - 255 - 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:51,050 - This is addressed to - both Mrs. Lundquist, + 157 + 00:09:41,565 --> 00:09:43,505 + Would it be because + you were a police? - 256 - 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:53,210 - myself, you were and + 158 + 00:09:43,505 --> 00:09:46,520 + Policemen and at + Phnom Penh city or or - 257 - 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:55,565 - have continued to be - an inspiration to me. + 159 + 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,590 + because of your family background - 258 - 00:13:55,565 --> 00:13:57,320 - I pray that God will richly + 160 + 00:09:48,590 --> 00:09:49,670 + in terms of your parents - 259 - 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,495 - bless you both for - all you've done. + 161 + 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:52,940 + were shopkeepers or what + would it be that they are - 260 - 00:13:59,495 --> 00:14:00,935 - Not just for battle, + 162 + 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:57,140 + the Khmer Rouge would + not like to commando, - 261 - 00:14:00,935 --> 00:14:03,965 - but for me and all the - individual students. + 163 + 00:09:57,140 --> 00:10:00,004 + don't like people in the office. - 262 - 00:14:03,965 --> 00:14:05,705 - We love you dearly. + 164 + 00:10:00,004 --> 00:10:03,379 + And also they don't lie to + people that have lice can lie. - 263 - 00:14:05,705 --> 00:14:07,520 - And I want you to - know that I will be + 165 + 00:10:03,379 --> 00:10:08,240 + My stop. They all they + accused SLS alike. - 264 - 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,040 - continually praying for you both. + 166 + 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,209 + Vietnamese, all the ethnic group. - 265 - 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,200 - Well, that's enough to keep + 167 + 00:10:14,209 --> 00:10:18,965 + We are not really pill + a 100% Cambodian. - 266 - 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,510 - a president going for - another whole year. + 168 + 00:10:18,965 --> 00:10:24,804 + Okay. Your experience there, - 267 - 00:14:14,510 --> 00:14:17,600 - And it's only a small sample of + 169 + 00:10:24,804 --> 00:10:26,584 + did you yourself, - 268 - 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,720 - the enthusiasm of one - alumnus that i c, + 170 + 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:29,120 + were you ever subjected + to physical abuse - 269 - 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,480 - multiplied and many - lives around the world, + 171 + 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,320 + or abused in any way while + you were in the village? - 270 - 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,605 - and that I share myself long ago, + 172 + 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,575 + Boat? They have physical abuse, - 271 - 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:30,560 - Mark Hopkins said that - the ideal picture of + 173 + 00:10:39,575 --> 00:10:45,125 + have a mentally or + mental abuse. He had. - 272 - 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,370 - a school was made up of one - student and one teacher, + 174 + 00:10:45,125 --> 00:10:48,110 + The Khmer Rouge tend to - 273 - 00:14:34,370 --> 00:14:36,665 - each on two ends of a log. + 175 + 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:51,080 + eliminate the people from - 274 - 00:14:36,665 --> 00:14:38,300 - And when they were there, + 176 + 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,869 + the city because they accuse us. - 275 - 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:41,120 - they had an educational - experience going. + 177 + 00:10:57,060 --> 00:11:02,080 + A strange person that + never were and a farm and - 276 - 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,400 - I think, however that - we would have to + 178 + 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,804 + the person that always take + advantage over the farmer. - 277 - 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,500 - say that somewhere - on that log there is + 179 + 00:11:06,804 --> 00:11:09,535 + Because of the Khmer Rouge. - 278 - 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,755 - a third person and - that's the partner + 180 + 00:11:09,535 --> 00:11:12,955 + Most of them the farmer. - 279 - 00:14:48,755 --> 00:14:52,535 - like you in the life - of Bethel people. + 181 + 00:11:12,955 --> 00:11:18,954 + And they have a background + that very low education. - 280 - 00:14:52,535 --> 00:14:54,620 - And we believe in the - mission of our school, + 182 + 00:11:18,954 --> 00:11:22,270 + And they don't like + the city people - 281 - 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:56,720 - who believe in - young people today, + 183 + 00:11:22,270 --> 00:11:26,634 + that used to take + Atlantic from them. - 282 - 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,080 - who believe in the need for - Christian higher education, + 184 + 00:11:26,634 --> 00:11:30,054 + And then it kind like + we went for them. - 283 - 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,060 - who believe in using education + 185 + 00:11:30,054 --> 00:11:33,504 + But I don't know about + the tomato philosophy. - 284 - 00:15:02,060 --> 00:15:04,370 - as an instrument of the gospel. + 186 + 00:11:33,504 --> 00:11:38,379 + But this is yes, + only the the feeling - 285 - 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:07,340 - And who, as a result - of these beliefs, + 187 + 00:11:38,379 --> 00:11:41,310 + that I feel that time. - 286 - 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:10,925 - are investing their - gifts in battle. + 188 + 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:44,240 + Did you were you yourself, - 287 - 00:15:10,925 --> 00:15:15,110 - I feel that you are partners - with us in helping to shape + 189 + 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,530 + personally subjected to any + abuse by the Khmer Rouge? - 288 - 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:17,930 - a whole new generation that can + 190 + 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:51,349 + Yeah. 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Titled his talk. - - 2 - 00:00:09,525 --> 00:00:12,720 - I come just a few days ago from - - 3 - 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,080 - the voltage Swedish Baptist - Church in the world. - - 4 - 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,940 - As you probably know, - - 5 - 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:21,765 - there will be celebrating - the 20th anniversary. - - 6 - 00:00:21,765 --> 00:00:24,959 - And as I say, the oldest - in the world, they know, - - 7 - 00:00:24,959 --> 00:00:26,730 - Swedish Baptist Church - in Sweden that says - - 8 - 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:30,090 - oldest church down in Iowa. - - 9 - 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:32,189 - The General Conference was - - 10 - 00:00:32,189 --> 00:00:34,740 - organized in that church. - Now that's interesting. - - 11 - 00:00:34,740 --> 00:00:38,324 - You know that somebody in 1879, - - 12 - 00:00:38,324 --> 00:00:39,719 - Agenda conference organizer to - - 13 - 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:42,595 - very small group of churches, - - 14 - 00:00:42,595 --> 00:00:44,330 - not so many from the East. - - 15 - 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:45,799 - There were some churches - there, of course, - - 16 - 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:47,030 - but it is more in - - 17 - 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:50,240 - the midway and some from - the East met there. - - 18 - 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,079 - And we have the history in - - 19 - 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:55,729 - the General Conference - and you'll that you - - 20 - 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:57,905 - get every year at the conference. - - 21 - 00:00:57,905 --> 00:01:02,450 - You have some records there - - 22 - 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:04,250 - until she was chairman - - 23 - 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:07,685 - that year and so on, - presiding officer. - - 24 - 00:01:07,685 --> 00:01:10,430 - And where they met - two pizzas servant. - - 25 - 00:01:10,430 --> 00:01:13,489 - Well, the very first - one would be that - - 26 - 00:01:13,489 --> 00:01:17,225 - one in Lansing pilot. - - 27 - 00:01:17,225 --> 00:01:20,089 - Now, regarding the Swedish - Baptist movement manner, - - 28 - 00:01:20,089 --> 00:01:24,214 - say just talk in front of the - Swedish Baptist movement. - - 29 - 00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:28,565 - >> America was like - the Lutheran movement. - - 30 - 00:01:28,565 --> 00:01:32,045 - Unlike other movements - from Europe. - - 31 - 00:01:32,045 --> 00:01:35,420 - They would come to America - because that's a new country. - - 32 - 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:36,949 - That so that's a silver - - 33 - 00:01:36,949 --> 00:01:38,840 - and gold and American, - all of that. - - 34 - 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,715 - My mother and father came. - - 35 - 00:01:40,715 --> 00:01:43,459 - Your some of your ancestors did, - - 36 - 00:01:43,459 --> 00:01:45,320 - Davis did and all that. - - 37 - 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,725 - And sometimes they come - in groups from Sweden. - - 38 - 00:01:48,725 --> 00:01:53,960 - And now my father and mother - came first to New York. - - 39 - 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,510 - Never met that there - were married and he - - 40 - 00:01:56,510 --> 00:01:59,180 - became a Christian also, - - 41 - 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:01,940 - but he wasn't at first - and they went out west - - 42 - 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:04,175 - and finally father homesteaders - - 43 - 00:02:04,175 --> 00:02:06,320 - to farm in northern Kansas. - - 44 - 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,305 - Here. They weren't - alone in that district. - - 45 - 00:02:09,305 --> 00:02:12,004 - There's a group that - I come from Sweden, - - 46 - 00:02:12,004 --> 00:02:14,570 - had been converted in Sweden. - - 47 - 00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:16,430 - There's a book that - I wish I could - - 48 - 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:17,450 - read if you get a hold of it, - - 49 - 00:02:17,450 --> 00:02:18,605 - the song of the roche. - - 50 - 00:02:18,605 --> 00:02:19,669 - Maybe it's in the library, - - 51 - 00:02:19,669 --> 00:02:22,475 - maybe not iPads to run my church. - - 52 - 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:24,140 - I send it to theater ambition of - - 53 - 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:25,820 - the covenant church, - a copy of it. - - 54 - 00:02:25,820 --> 00:02:29,180 - Sum those two takes care. - - 55 - 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:32,449 - It presents the artistic - movements are with God in - - 56 - 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:34,490 - Sweden and they'd - meet and you see - - 57 - 00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:36,910 - the state church - was cold and day. - - 58 - 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:39,109 - It was pretty much - dead in places, - - 59 - 00:02:39,109 --> 00:02:42,875 - you know, and it didn't, - it wasn't spirits. - - 60 - 00:02:42,875 --> 00:02:45,095 - Or even Sir Walter - Scott brings that out. - - 61 - 00:02:45,095 --> 00:02:48,905 - How the power let that cathedral - and went to the cottage. - - 62 - 00:02:48,905 --> 00:02:52,760 - Remember that line - Spencer edition said? - - 63 - 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,330 - And so they organized - - 64 - 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:57,155 - their little church - in northern Kansas. - - 65 - 00:02:57,155 --> 00:03:00,065 - Maybe 12 members, - maybe 40 members. - - 66 - 00:03:00,065 --> 00:03:03,950 - Number of couples that - knew each other in Sweden. + 192 + 00:11:55,475 --> 00:11:57,365 + They said me too. - 67 - 00:03:03,950 --> 00:03:06,589 - And there are at least I remember + 193 + 00:11:57,365 --> 00:12:03,605 + We're at to trying + to make a water dam. - 68 - 00:03:06,589 --> 00:03:09,920 - was when I was in - Sunday School there, + 194 + 00:12:03,605 --> 00:12:15,120 + And the they call Stan sign + as part of a not Cambodia. - 69 - 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,980 - my father taught off him - and and all the boys. + 195 + 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:20,389 + And that tiny from sunrise to - 70 - 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:15,050 - And I was five years old. + 196 + 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:23,209 + sunset and then come to - 71 - 00:03:15,050 --> 00:03:16,745 - Cemetery moved away. + 197 + 00:12:23,209 --> 00:12:27,779 + the borough that they + bill for a to slip. - 72 - 00:03:16,745 --> 00:03:18,770 - But he was my father - was talking and he was + 198 + 00:12:27,970 --> 00:12:34,429 + And when the work is + not done on time, - 73 - 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:23,090 - just a Ernest Christian and - not educated and all of that, + 199 + 00:12:34,429 --> 00:12:37,669 + they asked us to work + at NIH after dinner. - 74 - 00:03:23,090 --> 00:03:24,890 - but he knew the Bible. + 200 + 00:12:37,669 --> 00:12:39,650 + Most of the time, they did not - 75 - 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:26,180 - I remember he turned to me. + 201 + 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:42,034 + allow us to come to + the burrow to eat. - 76 - 00:03:26,180 --> 00:03:27,485 - Henry, what do you think about + 202 + 00:12:42,034 --> 00:12:44,675 + They have the cook - 77 - 00:03:27,485 --> 00:03:29,990 - that for Beth and thereby lab, + 203 + 00:12:44,675 --> 00:12:49,714 + that brought the Dina to + the place that we work. - 78 - 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:32,960 - because he's got the - humor to it to do that. + 204 + 00:12:49,714 --> 00:12:53,660 + And then they are + just distribute each - 79 - 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,315 - I think about that. + 205 + 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:58,489 + played for us to eat for a + while above half an hour, - 80 - 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:37,145 - You're in this class too. + 206 + 00:12:58,489 --> 00:13:02,405 + and then they start plus two - 81 - 00:03:37,145 --> 00:03:38,900 - And there was a pastor. + 207 + 00:13:02,405 --> 00:13:07,759 + again until ten or 11:00 PM + until midnight sometime. - 82 - 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:41,330 - His name was John JSON. - Whatever the Misha DJ. + 208 + 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,549 + And their philosophy, - 83 - 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:43,549 - And they got you got $300 a year, + 209 + 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:18,245 + the people that the leader + when they saw did not fitness. - 84 - 00:03:43,549 --> 00:03:46,430 - which is a lot of - money things dollar + 210 + 00:13:18,245 --> 00:13:19,789 + Even that posts that - 85 - 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:49,609 - than would be dollar - now would be 30, + 211 + 00:13:19,789 --> 00:13:22,534 + tiny our hardware + that did not finish. - 86 - 00:03:49,609 --> 00:03:51,410 - $40? Yes, it would be. + 212 + 00:13:22,534 --> 00:13:24,859 + And then they start a new idea. - 87 - 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:54,274 - I think you've you - that well, anyway, + 213 + 00:13:24,859 --> 00:13:28,759 + Say, Daddy, why a piece of land? - 88 - 00:03:54,274 --> 00:03:58,040 - there were groups and - there were churches here. + 214 + 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,580 + If you dig it fast, - 89 - 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,580 - They're organized and then - they would get together. + 215 + 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:32,795 + you can get finished. - 90 - 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:07,455 - And finally they organized a - general conference in 1879. + 216 + 00:13:32,795 --> 00:13:36,080 + Their part that they + gave it to her to do. - 91 - 00:04:07,455 --> 00:04:09,655 - And then the work went up. + 217 + 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,094 + You can go to the + broad sleep early. - 92 - 00:04:09,655 --> 00:04:11,755 - Now I press, there was no school. + 218 + 00:13:39,094 --> 00:13:41,120 + And some people are trying to do - 93 - 00:04:11,755 --> 00:04:15,895 - You know that the preachers - came from Sweden and + 219 + 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,890 + that to get faster + and then so they can - 94 - 00:04:15,895 --> 00:04:17,710 - they want to keep a Swedish - so long as they could + 220 + 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:45,530 + have time come back + to have a lat of - 95 - 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:20,860 - because they couldn't - reach English very well. + 221 + 00:13:45,530 --> 00:13:47,045 + find something to aid because - 96 - 00:04:20,860 --> 00:04:23,440 - And but then among them there was + 222 + 00:13:47,045 --> 00:13:49,220 + they don't have + enough food to eat. - 97 - 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,470 - one young man who was - glories that converted. + 223 + 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:51,199 + And later on people, - 98 - 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:28,795 - His name was that - lake. Sustained grin. + 224 + 00:13:51,199 --> 00:13:54,455 + but I'm trying too hard + to finish their part. - 99 - 00:04:28,795 --> 00:04:31,180 - And he saw you felt deep in + 225 + 00:13:54,455 --> 00:13:59,060 + And then they increase the + portion of work load so - 100 - 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:33,250 - his heart that he had - great possibilities. + 226 + 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,589 + until nobody can finish + before the one at the combat. - 101 - 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:37,210 - Otherwise, he saw - the need of having + 227 + 00:14:05,950 --> 00:14:09,529 + Do Do you recall - 102 - 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:38,919 - a training school for + 228 + 00:14:09,529 --> 00:14:14,419 + any incidents witnessing any + incidents where where people - 103 - 00:04:38,919 --> 00:04:42,130 - Pasteur's training - pastors for the work. + 229 + 00:14:14,419 --> 00:14:22,970 + were killed or just disappeared + or beaten at that time. - 104 - 00:04:42,130 --> 00:04:50,189 - But he came as a sailor boy - to America or something + 230 + 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:25,459 + And 197 needs seven, - 105 - 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:52,009 - in the Swedish young people, + 231 + 00:14:25,459 --> 00:14:29,720 + same one of my friend - 106 - 00:04:52,009 --> 00:04:54,469 - Swedish boys all over the world, + 232 + 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:36,019 + when two were from the same + village and he disappear. - 107 - 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:57,845 - I guess they see a - ship, have saga. + 233 + 00:14:36,019 --> 00:14:38,839 + I don't know what the reason why. - 108 - 00:04:57,845 --> 00:05:00,650 - That's sweet poem that - everybody knows. Who should we? + 234 + 00:14:38,839 --> 00:14:43,984 + Because they accuse + him that he's not very - 109 - 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:02,270 - I remember so well that I + 235 + 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:52,774 + active that trying to + against their philosophy. - 110 - 00:05:02,270 --> 00:05:03,605 - think it's in there where it is. + 236 + 00:14:52,774 --> 00:14:57,694 + But actually he's + really tired his sakes. - 111 - 00:05:03,605 --> 00:05:05,795 - But this young man was restless. + 237 + 00:14:57,694 --> 00:15:02,389 + He got diarrhea and he went - 112 - 00:05:05,795 --> 00:05:10,565 - Maybe his name, his residency, + 238 + 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:04,849 + into the the forest - 113 - 00:05:10,565 --> 00:05:12,049 - he didn't know what's - the matter with + 239 + 00:15:04,849 --> 00:15:08,464 + nearby because he got diary, + he cannot stay there. - 114 - 00:05:12,049 --> 00:05:14,330 - him and he didn't know - what the recipe would be. + 240 + 00:15:08,464 --> 00:15:12,559 + And they accuse him that + trying to get away from birth. - 115 - 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:15,829 - Left would help. And then he saw + 241 + 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:16,085 + And later on, after that night, - 116 - 00:05:15,829 --> 00:05:19,820 - a ship in the harbor. - That's the answer. + 242 + 00:15:16,085 --> 00:15:18,274 + next day, we didn't see him. - 117 - 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:22,340 - And he made a run - for the shipment, + 243 + 00:15:18,274 --> 00:15:20,479 + And they're told + that they send him - 118 - 00:05:22,340 --> 00:05:25,339 - got on there and actually - kept and it could + 244 + 00:15:20,479 --> 00:15:22,849 + back to the village pub. - 119 - 00:05:25,339 --> 00:05:27,050 - be on there and stay on and + 245 + 00:15:22,849 --> 00:15:24,259 + When we came back after we - 120 - 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:29,105 - have a job and you - save the seeds. + 246 + 00:15:24,259 --> 00:15:26,420 + finished work over + there about six months. - 121 - 00:05:29,105 --> 00:05:31,025 - Now that's your Lexus. + 247 + 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:28,325 + I didn't see him at our - 122 - 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:32,450 - It when we're talking - about elections. + 248 + 00:15:28,325 --> 00:15:31,309 + so I don't know + where they take it. - 123 - 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:34,325 - Abraham, marvelous person. + 249 + 00:15:31,309 --> 00:15:33,545 + Did this happen very often - 124 - 00:05:34,325 --> 00:05:37,519 - And he didn't go through - just that experience, + 250 + 00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:35,509 + where people would + disappear like that? - 125 - 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,295 - but you wanted to go sailing + 251 + 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:38,300 + Usely, it happened to the people - 126 - 00:05:40,295 --> 00:05:42,635 - and there was a ship there too. + 252 + 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:42,785 + that a blanket from the city. - 127 - 00:05:42,635 --> 00:05:44,195 - And he asked his parents, + 253 + 00:15:42,785 --> 00:15:46,745 + But for the people + they call all people, - 128 - 00:05:44,195 --> 00:05:45,800 - got permission from - them and they said, + 254 + 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:50,210 + they tend to try and - 129 - 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,629 - well, if that is what - you really want to do, + 255 + 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:55,474 + to that we educate them or + send them to let them place. - 130 - 00:05:47,629 --> 00:05:49,070 - we're not going to stop you. + 256 + 00:15:55,474 --> 00:15:57,469 + Okay. So you're feeling is - 131 - 00:05:49,070 --> 00:05:50,690 - Pray that the Nordau - bless you wherever + 257 + 00:15:57,469 --> 00:16:00,559 + that if one was + identified as has, - 132 - 00:05:50,690 --> 00:05:52,505 - you go and take care of you. + 258 + 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,360 + having lived in the city, - 133 - 00:05:52,505 --> 00:05:55,459 - And so alexis Adrian became + 259 + 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,339 + that the Khmer Rouge would try - 134 - 00:05:55,459 --> 00:06:01,379 - ish sailor boy and he's - sale almost seven C's + 260 + 00:16:04,339 --> 00:16:06,229 + to systematically break them - 135 - 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:07,250 - the age of 15, I - think this was now, + 261 + 00:16:06,229 --> 00:16:11,789 + down and ultimately + killed them. Yeah. Okay. - 136 - 00:06:07,250 --> 00:06:08,330 - I like to think of it like say, + 262 + 00:16:14,590 --> 00:16:21,240 + We're As far as - 137 - 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:10,790 - ugliness, going - through three fires. + 263 + 00:16:22,570 --> 00:16:27,065 + the deaths of of people + in that village, - 138 - 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:13,865 - One wish a fire when - you wish converted. + 264 + 00:16:27,065 --> 00:16:29,150 + was it usually the case - 139 - 00:06:13,865 --> 00:06:15,950 - Another which a fire of + 265 + 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:31,609 + where violence was + involved or was it a case - 140 - 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:18,635 - the Civil War in which - you had a great time. + 266 + 00:16:31,609 --> 00:16:36,035 + of just disappearances and + also perhaps starving people, - 141 - 00:06:18,635 --> 00:06:22,700 - And the third was that - fire when Chicago Bern, + 267 + 00:16:36,035 --> 00:16:38,119 + and they would just + break down and die - 142 - 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:26,390 - almost Chicago altogether burned. + 268 + 00:16:38,119 --> 00:16:40,579 + from illness or, + or a lack of food. - 143 - 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:30,560 - But the first fire was this one. + 269 + 00:16:40,579 --> 00:16:42,484 + Did that happen more frequently? - 144 - 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,150 - He wasn't a Christian. + 270 + 00:16:42,484 --> 00:16:44,179 + Almost everyday. - 145 - 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:34,010 - He hadn't accepted - crashes or saver. + 271 + 00:16:44,179 --> 00:16:50,014 + People that die by lacking a + full and also the illness, - 146 - 00:06:34,010 --> 00:06:36,454 - He was living in what - we would call sin, + 272 + 00:16:50,014 --> 00:16:52,370 + they common disease is - 147 - 00:06:36,454 --> 00:06:40,100 - and he was in New - York Harbor sleeping. + 273 + 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:56,330 + diarrhea and starvation because - 148 - 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:43,654 - In his book, on the - ship in New York Harbor + 274 + 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:58,294 + they don't have + enough food to eat. - 149 - 00:06:43,654 --> 00:06:48,005 - >> And he had a dream. + 275 + 00:16:58,294 --> 00:17:03,980 + And some people die by accusing. - 150 - 00:06:48,005 --> 00:06:49,759 - In the dream you - used on the way to + 276 + 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:06,349 + Are there background? - 151 - 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:51,289 - some place of amusement, + 277 + 00:17:06,349 --> 00:17:08,074 + If they found out live? - 152 - 00:06:51,289 --> 00:06:53,810 - which was clearly considered sin. + 278 + 00:17:08,074 --> 00:17:11,464 + My friend, he was the pilot. - 153 - 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:56,660 - And he saw a fire come, + 279 + 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:18,844 + And the reason that they + know him because he brought - 154 - 00:06:56,660 --> 00:07:00,665 - come crawling along - toward a from the right. + 280 + 00:17:18,844 --> 00:17:26,240 + a if made at that time when + he was in Phnom Penh city, - 155 - 00:07:00,665 --> 00:07:02,570 - And the lack of it, prayer fire, + 281 + 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,830 + he had irwin made as - 156 - 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:03,994 - but it's a mystic fire. + 282 + 00:17:27,830 --> 00:17:31,204 + that allele girl + about 1010 years old. - 157 - 00:07:03,994 --> 00:07:05,840 - >> And he saw it coming. + 283 + 00:17:31,204 --> 00:17:34,100 + And she's the real Cambodian - 158 - 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:07,250 - And he tried his - best to get out of + 284 + 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:37,130 + cared because see have + a different math skin. - 159 - 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:09,919 - the way and but he just + 285 + 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:41,329 + And he brought + Herbert and told her - 160 - 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:12,484 - couldn't even outage - a nightmarish hadron + 286 + 00:17:41,329 --> 00:17:45,184 + because that time her + parent was separate, - 161 - 00:07:12,484 --> 00:07:14,150 - just could move others. + 287 + 00:17:45,184 --> 00:17:47,795 + B cannot leave her alone. - 162 - 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:16,250 - It's coming, it's - coming, it's coming. + 288 + 00:17:47,795 --> 00:17:50,525 + And she wanted to + come along when when - 163 - 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:18,409 - And finally he was able just it, + 289 + 00:17:50,525 --> 00:17:53,914 + he took her with + two layered there, - 164 - 00:07:18,409 --> 00:07:21,245 - it came and just got him - in the side like that. + 290 + 00:17:53,914 --> 00:17:57,079 + they look at is not + like a relative or - 165 - 00:07:21,245 --> 00:07:27,680 - And he leaped up and it was - so real and he was awake now, + 291 + 00:17:57,079 --> 00:18:01,460 + threatened or something + because of the appearance. - 166 - 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,145 - but he jumped up and he - bares his side to see. + 292 + 00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:05,360 + And later on, that + girl, when she grow up, - 167 - 00:07:31,145 --> 00:07:33,514 - It is still burning. It - was still hot, Jesse, + 293 + 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,990 + see toll everything + about our background - 168 - 00:07:33,514 --> 00:07:36,560 - and he couldn't see any - sign of it on the body. + 294 + 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:12,890 + that she news than they found out - 169 - 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,515 - But something deeper - that had happened. + 295 + 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:20,735 + that he was pilot and + they tried to kill him. - 170 - 00:07:39,515 --> 00:07:42,830 - And you read ran out on the - deck and the snowstorm. + 296 + 00:18:20,735 --> 00:18:28,414 + But he tried to make it + work as hard as he can to - 171 - 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:45,509 - You've heard of John + 297 + 00:18:28,414 --> 00:18:32,610 + fulfill their - 172 - 00:07:45,580 --> 00:07:50,570 - the side kick, John Wesley John. + 298 + 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,635 + what is say, their commitment. - 173 - 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,430 - He was a slave driver. + 299 + 00:18:39,635 --> 00:18:43,190 + But one day they make - 174 - 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,950 - John Newton, he was converted, + 300 + 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:47,615 + a the whole relate chain - 175 - 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:56,839 - I believe in a - snowstorm on he was, + 301 + 00:18:47,615 --> 00:18:52,205 + by moving people from one + relate to another really. - 176 - 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,329 - he was just a simple - sitting saver, + 302 + 00:18:52,205 --> 00:18:56,195 + And that time is the time + that the more people - 177 - 00:07:59,329 --> 00:08:03,259 - sinner saved and he would say in, + 303 + 00:18:56,195 --> 00:19:00,319 + the access to Pat and unmute + during that NIH, no warning. - 178 - 00:08:03,259 --> 00:08:05,390 - in a snowstorm, or - the NYC, the ship. + 304 + 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:02,435 + So at the at night, - 179 - 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:07,910 - Well now Edwin, which a + 305 + 00:19:02,435 --> 00:19:04,549 + that night they told + everybody need to - 180 - 00:08:07,910 --> 00:08:10,280 - Christian and he was - a warm Christian. + 306 + 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:07,639 + Pat and to move to another + village because that, - 181 - 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,140 - When he came back - home, he had preached + 307 + 00:19:07,639 --> 00:19:12,199 + that the new will need more + people to finish their work. + + 308 + 00:19:12,199 --> 00:19:15,799 + And then they send + them through DNA. - 182 - 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:14,780 - and against a lot of page. + 309 + 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:18,170 + And later on I found out that he - 183 - 00:08:14,780 --> 00:08:16,279 - And they send an officer to + 310 + 00:19:18,170 --> 00:19:20,990 + die because I saw + belonging that they - 184 - 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:18,080 - check up on what that - young fellow is doing. + 311 + 00:19:20,990 --> 00:19:24,800 + took from them and distributed + to their old people to use - 185 - 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,825 - He's drawing people to - homes and preaching. + 312 + 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,244 + that little girl that + that lived with him? - 186 - 00:08:20,825 --> 00:08:22,494 - But he listened. He - couldn't finding + 313 + 00:19:30,244 --> 00:19:32,960 + I did. Who did she live - 187 - 00:08:22,494 --> 00:08:24,710 - the matter that memo saying so. + 314 + 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,795 + with after they move + to the nowadays? - 188 - 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:28,639 - Well, anyway, the Civil - War broke out and + 315 + 00:19:35,795 --> 00:19:39,695 + Her they took her to live + with death and family. - 189 - 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:32,480 - he joined the Navy and he was + 316 + 00:19:39,695 --> 00:19:44,345 + Okay. Because the have + some problem fighting, - 190 - 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,155 - soon became commander a - battleships or warships. + 317 + 00:19:44,345 --> 00:19:46,565 + arguing because at the food, - 191 - 00:08:36,155 --> 00:08:37,760 - Was it three or five that + 318 + 00:19:46,565 --> 00:19:49,340 + not enough food to eat + and people tried to set - 192 - 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,455 - He had commanded? Different ones. + 319 + 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:52,730 + Y and they steal from + each ADA to eat. - 193 - 00:08:39,455 --> 00:08:42,184 - You've all you, all of you - have heard of monitor, + 320 + 00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:54,620 + And then they saw that we - 194 - 00:08:42,184 --> 00:08:43,580 - monitor the Civil War. + 321 + 00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:58,115 + have in the night that and + then they split family. - 195 - 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:47,345 - The I and the Swedish - Jbuilder architect + 322 + 00:19:58,115 --> 00:20:02,869 + Even myself, I split to lay + that defend family and he, - 196 - 00:08:47,345 --> 00:08:49,535 - constructed it into - something new. + 323 + 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:05,675 + that his widely different family. - 197 - 00:08:49,535 --> 00:08:51,739 - And do you remember the - name of the southern ship + 324 + 00:20:05,675 --> 00:20:07,559 + Okay. - 198 - 00:08:51,739 --> 00:08:53,840 - that was coming along so strong? + 325 + 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:17,089 + So was 1979 - 199 - 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,370 - I was trying to think of it today + 326 + 00:20:17,089 --> 00:20:20,480 + when the Vietnamese + invaded Cambodia, - 200 - 00:08:56,620 --> 00:08:59,540 - with our mirror and - macro micro array. + 327 + 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,199 + was the first time you + fled from the village. - 201 - 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,330 - And the North had nothing - to meet that with. + 328 + 00:20:24,199 --> 00:20:26,749 + Were there ever other incidents - 202 - 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:03,710 - You know, here comes out to + 329 + 00:20:26,749 --> 00:20:31,865 + that they I I thought + the Vietnamese. - 203 - 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,840 - the DOM monitors - sailing along there. + 330 + 00:20:31,865 --> 00:20:36,544 + Came by because I live + near the highway. - 204 - 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,820 - I saw the picture of - it just yesterday. + 331 + 00:20:36,544 --> 00:20:38,660 + And I saw that and - 205 - 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:10,310 - I mean, I looked it - up and I'm done. + 332 + 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,400 + all the Khmer Rouge leader - 206 - 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:12,800 - Well, it was on that - that'll monitor. + 333 + 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,519 + escape the night before + because they knew they - 207 - 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,690 - He didn't command, but he - was on it at the time of + 334 + 00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:46,550 + have a radio that + they can listen to - 208 - 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:17,585 - the battle and somebody - else commanded it. + 335 + 00:20:46,550 --> 00:20:48,559 + the news through the radio - 209 - 00:09:17,585 --> 00:09:22,460 - And that bigger ship - fire, fired and hired. + 336 + 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,720 + and also the, the escape before. - 210 - 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:23,900 - And I don't know how much it hit, + 337 + 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,489 + So this only the population - 211 - 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:26,240 - but it is clenched off - of the iron there. + 338 + 00:20:52,489 --> 00:20:54,739 + that live in the + village stay there. - 212 - 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,890 - And the commander of the + 339 + 00:20:54,739 --> 00:20:58,909 + So the next day I saw the + Vietnamese troop came by and - 213 - 00:09:27,890 --> 00:09:30,395 - monetary came right back, - and it came right back. + 340 + 00:20:58,909 --> 00:21:03,485 + everybody thought that the + Cambodia was freeze again. - 214 - 00:09:30,395 --> 00:09:33,064 - And the Merrimack - didn't stay very long, + 341 + 00:21:03,485 --> 00:21:06,139 + And then everybody + trying to get into - 215 - 00:09:33,064 --> 00:09:35,555 - decided we'd better - get out of here. + 342 + 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:10,174 + the fear to grab our + rice that we can to - 216 - 00:09:35,555 --> 00:09:37,249 - Well, I'm telling - you that to show + 343 + 00:21:10,174 --> 00:21:13,819 + protect so we can live for + + 344 + 00:21:13,819 --> 00:21:18,814 + while until we know what's + going on in the country. - 217 - 00:09:37,249 --> 00:09:41,315 - that it was right in - the middle of things. + 345 + 00:21:18,814 --> 00:21:25,309 + And I live with the family + that I stayed there. - 218 - 00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:44,315 - And he commanded - several battleships. + 346 + 00:21:25,309 --> 00:21:28,015 + The whole during that - 219 - 00:09:44,315 --> 00:09:46,999 - But, you know, there's - something deep in his heart + 347 + 00:21:28,015 --> 00:21:32,359 + Camaro tried to help + them to collect. - 220 - 00:09:46,999 --> 00:09:50,060 - that was more interesting - than the Navy. + 348 + 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,890 + Are the right, keep it. - 221 - 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:52,265 - Or whenever the - accretion that way. + 349 + 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:36,740 + You get about a 100 pound - 222 - 00:09:52,265 --> 00:09:54,860 - So he went to the high - commander commoner, + 350 + 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,184 + or something like that. Keep it. - 223 - 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:57,575 - whoever that top was, an resign. + 351 + 00:21:39,184 --> 00:21:41,165 + And one week later, - 224 - 00:09:57,575 --> 00:09:59,510 - And you said you're - fooling shade, can you? + 352 + 00:21:41,165 --> 00:21:42,980 + I made decision because - 225 - 00:09:59,510 --> 00:10:01,999 - Foolish? You've got - everything that it + 353 + 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,260 + that time a lot of + people start moving to - 226 - 00:10:01,999 --> 00:10:05,150 - takes to be a commander - battleship than the Navy, + 354 + 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:49,039 + their own town and - 227 - 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:07,505 - you'll become a common - or do you know that? + 355 + 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:53,240 + they asked them that I'm + going to see my parents. - 228 - 00:10:07,505 --> 00:10:09,350 - Yes. That may be - true, that atrium, + 356 + 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,284 + And one week later I left. - 229 - 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:10,954 - but I have a higher calling + 357 + 00:21:56,284 --> 00:22:00,574 + I travel almost about - 230 - 00:10:10,954 --> 00:10:12,830 - something higher fire descended, + 358 + 00:22:00,574 --> 00:22:04,850 + two weeks and I reached + to my hometown. - 231 - 00:10:12,830 --> 00:10:17,130 - as we say somewhat - poetically. And he resign. + 359 + 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:07,505 + But when it yeah, + that the other firm. - 232 - 00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:19,760 - And then increasingly he felt + 360 + 00:22:07,505 --> 00:22:10,535 + Okay. Were you able to + locate your parents? - 233 - 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,680 - the need should be a training. + 361 + 00:22:10,535 --> 00:22:13,819 + I know that and that + time my parents did - 234 - 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,055 - Swedish pastures came - from Sweden to America. + 362 + 00:22:13,819 --> 00:22:17,180 + not escape from the + Khmer Rouge yet because - 235 - 00:10:25,055 --> 00:10:26,810 - And as long as - everything was Swedish, + 363 + 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,780 + she was a bucket to add - 236 - 00:10:26,810 --> 00:10:28,445 - they got along pretty good. + 364 + 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:24,740 + new or different village + from my home town. - 237 - 00:10:28,445 --> 00:10:30,500 - But it became worse and + 365 + 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:28,385 + That was your mother? My parents, - 238 - 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:34,685 - worse and some of them - didn't have much training. + 366 + 00:22:28,385 --> 00:22:31,460 + my brother and my sister. - 239 - 00:10:34,685 --> 00:10:37,235 - So there was a decision - under God to start + 367 + 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:36,065 + Okay. When I came to + the my my old hometown, - 240 - 00:10:37,235 --> 00:10:41,190 - a Swedish Baptist - seminary in Chicago. + 368 + 00:22:36,065 --> 00:22:39,335 + I saw only my my cousin - 241 - 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:44,540 - And you've heard many times, + 369 + 00:22:39,335 --> 00:22:42,845 + and the ADA relative + summed up my parents. - 242 - 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:45,980 - I suppose at Founders Week, + 370 + 00:22:42,845 --> 00:22:44,900 + Your parents, brother and sister. - 243 - 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,679 - that he started with one student, + 371 + 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:49,519 + Were they all sit together + to the same village? - 244 - 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,725 - and that student was silly. + 372 + 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,590 + I didn't know, but they say that - 245 - 00:10:51,725 --> 00:10:53,690 - And at Founders Week that night, + 373 + 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:55,820 + the first year they send + altogether and later on, - 246 - 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:55,160 - and there was a dedication + 374 + 00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:58,759 + my brother's split + up from them because - 247 - 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,290 - that was a Canvas symbol - of the history of + 375 + 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:02,014 + of the economic No, - 248 - 00:10:57,290 --> 00:11:00,050 - our school and the - kneeling in prayer + 376 + 00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:04,474 + not enough food to eat so much, - 249 - 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:03,380 - there and so on versus Trump. + 377 + 00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:08,719 + fled to the other area + trying to live by himself. - 250 - 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:04,520 - They're kind of a leather is + 378 + 00:23:08,719 --> 00:23:15,274 + And that time, my pen worth + got how are my brother? - 251 - 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,264 - there you had one student for + 379 + 00:23:15,274 --> 00:23:20,640 + My younger brother + got home before them. - 252 - 00:11:07,264 --> 00:11:11,840 - a whole semester and - then another one came. + 380 + 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,010 + Okay. What what village where - 253 - 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,090 - I don't remember his - name. Maybe you do. + 381 + 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:26,544 + your parents and sister + sent to? Where were they? - 254 - 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:17,135 - Shall we had two students - that first year, + 382 + 00:23:26,544 --> 00:23:28,449 + House was at near bottom mouth, - 255 - 00:11:17,135 --> 00:11:20,555 - but the whole thing - was a great struggle. + 383 + 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:32,890 + about 15 kilo meter + from Baltimore City - 256 - 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:23,810 - The American leaders - were very generous to + 384 + 00:23:32,890 --> 00:23:35,875 + along Highway phi k. - 257 - 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:26,060 - the Swedes that I was + 385 + 00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:39,230 + What was the name of that + village they call compound. - 258 - 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,030 - showing university for - awhile in the seminary. + 386 + 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,119 + And when the + vietnamese took over, - 259 - 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:32,540 - I was anxious for orientation - and I enjoyed it very much. + 387 + 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,615 + when they heard that + Vietnamese to tame the Camaro, - 260 - 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:36,650 - But I was in the class - of of the son of one of + 388 + 00:23:46,615 --> 00:23:53,425 + evacuate them from that place + to along the highway, go. - 261 - 00:11:36,650 --> 00:11:43,085 - the Baptists leadership - at the dais, good speed. + 389 + 00:23:53,425 --> 00:23:57,804 + As Jill is the carlo. - 262 - 00:11:43,085 --> 00:11:44,810 - Dr. good speed was one of + 390 + 00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:03,199 + Today, moan or say city. - 263 - 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:47,300 - the leaders of the American - Baptist that help. + 391 + 00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:10,150 + Okay. And now, in my eye, - 264 - 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:48,844 - And there were other - men like that. + 392 + 00:24:10,150 --> 00:24:14,109 + and April rising in April of 79, - 265 - 00:11:48,844 --> 00:11:50,780 - >> And there were times when he + 393 + 00:24:14,109 --> 00:24:17,935 + my dad and my brother, - 266 - 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:51,860 - had been married an American + 394 + 00:24:17,935 --> 00:24:23,470 + the youngest brother, + and my grandfather. - 267 - 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:54,740 - girl and she wasn't too - interested in Swedish work, + 395 + 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,919 + Let's die. At the same time. - 268 - 00:11:54,740 --> 00:11:57,935 - but she was gracious and - she didn't run away. + 396 + 00:24:26,919 --> 00:24:31,194 + During the big thunderstorm. - 269 - 00:11:57,935 --> 00:11:59,450 - But, you know, it was difficult + 397 + 00:24:31,194 --> 00:24:33,159 + Because he, they bought, - 270 - 00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:01,310 - for her from her standpoint. + 398 + 00:24:33,159 --> 00:24:35,439 + they all got struck by lightning. - 271 - 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:03,410 - And sometimes it didn't - have bread to eat. + 399 + 00:24:35,439 --> 00:24:37,839 + The diet here. Where was that? - 272 - 00:12:03,410 --> 00:12:06,320 - And you can hear - saying any wife would. + 400 + 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:42,790 + At? My moment to say, OK. Now, - 273 - 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,105 - Now, why did you leave the Navy? + 401 + 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:48,290 + was there was there something - 274 - 00:12:08,105 --> 00:12:09,695 - You were getting a big salary + 402 + 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:53,330 + significant about that + particular location - 275 - 00:12:09,695 --> 00:12:10,880 - and here we're struggling at + 403 + 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:56,675 + or that village or prison camp? - 276 - 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,960 - all and nobody seems to + 404 + 00:24:56,675 --> 00:24:58,820 + I recall someone telling me - 277 - 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,985 - care whether anything - happens or not. + 405 + 00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:01,880 + about prison camp + or a village near - 278 - 00:12:13,985 --> 00:12:18,620 - We can imagine or saying - that and that was true. + 406 + 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,890 + bottom bond that there were - 279 - 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:20,329 - And you've read - wreckage, I suppose, + 407 + 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:06,589 + bodies kept in a well or they + would throw bodies in well, - 280 - 00:12:20,329 --> 00:12:22,175 - where there was just - about starving in it. + 408 + 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:09,409 + was that they call it a day. - 281 - 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:25,235 - That came some money - on the school. + 409 + 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:13,040 + Okay. A diff this that + little foot for the okay. - 282 - 00:12:25,235 --> 00:12:27,815 - That came a few more - students all the time. + 410 + 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,029 + Okay. So your father, - 283 - 00:12:27,815 --> 00:12:30,900 - Very few though. - And the thing went, + 411 + 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:18,830 + one brother and grandfather, - 284 - 00:12:30,909 --> 00:12:35,540 - >> and you may have read in + 412 + 00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:20,645 + were struck by lightning? - 285 - 00:12:35,540 --> 00:12:37,099 - seminary records here of + 413 + 00:25:20,645 --> 00:25:32,189 + Okay. And how long did you + remain and bottom bar? - 286 - 00:12:37,099 --> 00:12:40,250 - eight Winship sort of - rules that he drew up. + 414 + 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,275 + I after my grandfather, - 287 - 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:41,765 - Poor association there. + 415 + 00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:42,739 + my father, my brother die. - 288 - 00:12:41,765 --> 00:12:45,215 - You remembered what one - rule was the nicest of all. + 416 + 00:25:42,739 --> 00:25:45,184 + And two weeks later, - 289 - 00:12:45,215 --> 00:12:46,640 - Well, anyway, it's this. + 417 + 00:25:45,184 --> 00:25:51,004 + my mother and my sister got out. - 290 - 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,820 - He said this is the rule - here in the seminar. + 418 + 00:25:51,004 --> 00:25:54,574 + They both get out + from the tomorrows. - 291 - 00:12:49,820 --> 00:12:51,979 - We're breathing, - nobody has high Lord, + 419 + 00:25:54,574 --> 00:26:00,559 + And then she returned to meet + me in my hometown again, - 292 - 00:12:51,979 --> 00:12:53,315 - nobody has King, + 420 + 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:06,454 + I believe at b and + now April of 1979. - 293 - 00:12:53,315 --> 00:12:55,940 - everybody has a brother - of everybody else. + 421 + 00:26:06,454 --> 00:26:09,920 + And I stay with them for a while. - 294 - 00:12:55,940 --> 00:12:58,294 - And we're working - together and the Lord + 422 + 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,095 + And we don't think that we can - 295 - 00:12:58,294 --> 00:13:01,084 - is our Lord and we are, + 423 + 00:26:12,095 --> 00:26:15,800 + live because I have + no full nothing. - 296 - 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:04,835 - is whether children - saw that irregular. + 424 + 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,370 + So my mom and my sister and - 297 - 00:13:04,835 --> 00:13:06,529 - And that's one of the foundation + 425 + 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:25,264 + my brother decide to + escape to Thailand. - 298 - 00:13:06,529 --> 00:13:08,435 - stones that he started with. + 426 + 00:26:25,264 --> 00:26:31,200 + During the man now, between + May and June and that time, - 299 - 00:13:08,435 --> 00:13:10,610 - And but it's just so difficult. + 427 + 00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,640 + when I reach Thailand, - 300 - 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:11,689 - There were times when there was + 428 + 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,709 + cam allowed the border. - 301 - 00:13:11,689 --> 00:13:13,460 - you just had to be discouraged. + 429 + 00:26:36,709 --> 00:26:39,590 + The carlo Non Jan cam. - 302 - 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,830 - One time I think you - wrote his resignation. + 430 + 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:43,280 + I'm a stay there a by two. - 303 - 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:19,475 - Many just didn't - descended and so on. + 431 + 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,654 + We at that time, - 304 - 00:13:19,475 --> 00:13:23,345 - And then his health broke down. + 432 + 00:26:46,654 --> 00:26:49,910 + the ties government brought - 305 - 00:13:23,345 --> 00:13:25,714 - Now I mentioned three tires, + 433 + 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:53,135 + all of the refugee + ban because are - 306 - 00:13:25,714 --> 00:13:28,445 - fire when he converted - in the dream. + 434 + 00:26:53,135 --> 00:26:58,310 + no international supervision + in that cam and too - 307 - 00:13:28,445 --> 00:13:31,804 - And the fire of the Civil War, + 435 + 00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:00,934 + proud and ties government - 308 - 00:13:31,804 --> 00:13:34,309 - which he went to, and - then the Chicago Fire, + 436 + 00:27:00,934 --> 00:27:05,629 + just lie to a saying that they + will move to a new place. - 309 - 00:13:34,309 --> 00:13:36,619 - just when they gotta - going a little bit than + 437 + 00:27:05,629 --> 00:27:10,639 + But actually they put us + on a bus in the morning. - 310 - 00:13:36,619 --> 00:13:39,545 - the Great Chicago Fire - broke out and that reside, + 438 + 00:27:10,639 --> 00:27:13,910 + And they draw was, are they RNA? - 311 - 00:13:39,545 --> 00:13:41,029 - and everybody thought that, that + 439 + 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:20,179 + Three, the destination is + the not psi of Cambodia. - 312 - 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:42,710 - in Chicago, Imodium sank. + 440 + 00:27:20,179 --> 00:27:22,024 + Along the border. - 313 - 00:13:42,710 --> 00:13:43,924 - He stood on the steps of + 441 + 00:27:22,024 --> 00:27:24,725 + And in the morning the sun dry, - 314 - 00:13:43,924 --> 00:13:46,640 - the old Moody Church, - seeing the flames. + 442 + 00:27:24,725 --> 00:27:26,990 + they start to push + or to walk across - 315 - 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,064 - And one set to the other, + 443 + 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:30,229 + the border into Cambodia, psi. - 316 - 00:13:48,064 --> 00:13:50,060 - this bounce, the destruction. + 444 + 00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:33,829 + And that time, a lot of people - 317 - 00:13:50,060 --> 00:13:53,145 - Chicago Moody had assembled - some things here, + 445 + 00:27:33,829 --> 00:27:37,610 + die because of the + mine along the border. - 318 - 00:13:53,145 --> 00:13:54,949 - but no, they said, Ed, can, + 446 + 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,924 + No. Where was the train? - 319 - 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:57,770 - I think that it green, + 447 + 00:27:40,924 --> 00:27:45,050 + Was this mountain slopes + and PD-L1 they call numb. - 320 - 00:13:57,770 --> 00:14:00,020 - got together some things + 448 + 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:54,094 + But Evie here that the the + the heavily cliff Hang on. - 321 - 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:02,825 - to know what you want - to put a signal. + 449 + 00:27:54,094 --> 00:27:55,970 + Cambodian psi. But from - 322 - 00:14:02,825 --> 00:14:05,419 - And then he was going - across the bridge and or + 450 + 00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:59,315 + the Thailand is + like a plane fear. - 323 - 00:14:05,419 --> 00:14:08,720 - the Chicago River fire, - we're following along. + 451 + 00:27:59,315 --> 00:28:04,215 + Mmm. So people were literally + pushed to their deaths. - 324 - 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,899 - And finally he got across - time that wouldn't + 452 + 00:28:04,215 --> 00:28:10,869 + Most people that were across + early in the morning, - 325 - 00:14:11,899 --> 00:14:14,270 - have whichever you had - to climb through potion, + 453 + 00:28:10,869 --> 00:28:14,650 + most of them die + because of the mind. - 326 - 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:16,250 - whatever it was it set up there. + 454 + 00:28:14,650 --> 00:28:17,904 + And the mind just blow + when all day long. - 327 - 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:17,720 - You finally got to - the other side. + 455 + 00:28:17,904 --> 00:28:20,290 + Because people didn't know. - 328 - 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,585 - You look me a heads - up, their own opinion. + 456 + 00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:21,924 + They just abandoned. - 329 - 00:14:20,585 --> 00:14:25,160 - Just rags or my telework - said that you saved + 457 + 00:28:21,924 --> 00:28:24,024 + And my family. - 330 - 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:31,624 - that spirits a lesson - for us all that well, + 458 + 00:28:24,024 --> 00:28:29,214 + But my relative, about 30 + people decide to stay, - 331 - 00:14:31,624 --> 00:14:37,309 - that was the Alexis a grid - he has helped broke down + 459 + 00:28:29,214 --> 00:28:34,479 + do not want to run back + to Cambodia until that - 332 - 00:14:37,309 --> 00:14:43,760 - and he resigned and - he went out west. + 460 + 00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:37,044 + the Thai soldier just till - 333 - 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,709 - And it's interesting now + 461 + 00:28:37,044 --> 00:28:40,209 + the garden trying to show that. - 334 - 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:47,330 - he's starting to - photographing gallery. + 462 + 00:28:40,209 --> 00:28:43,360 + And then we decide to + leave the last Chan. - 335 - 00:14:47,330 --> 00:14:49,700 - They're picking pictures, - photographs from Sony. + 463 + 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,544 + And I stay alone that water - 336 - 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:54,335 - I do something. His son - became a great sports writer. + 464 + 00:28:46,544 --> 00:28:51,395 + because the hurdle too many + mind-blowing that time. - 337 - 00:14:54,335 --> 00:14:59,400 - His son may have heard - that and all of that. + 465 + 00:28:51,395 --> 00:28:53,719 + So we decide to stay thereby, we, - 338 - 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:04,820 - Well then the next one that - they call Can you tell us + 466 + 00:28:53,719 --> 00:28:57,229 + without food and + water, that we drink, - 339 - 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:09,440 - more about is family - like his wife? + 467 + 00:28:57,229 --> 00:29:01,699 + the water that just flow + along with the body, - 340 - 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,300 - Anything more? You - mentioned her or children? + 468 + 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:04,504 + the sunlight than for one week. - 341 - 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:17,810 - How many children? - I I I'm not sure. + 469 + 00:29:04,504 --> 00:29:08,194 + And later on, we + saw the Vietnamese - 342 - 00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:19,400 - I'm sorry. + 470 + 00:29:08,194 --> 00:29:11,779 + true came by and help to get out. - 343 - 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,170 - Mj Ostrom, + 471 + 00:29:11,779 --> 00:29:14,389 + So we bwa followed their pad, - 344 - 00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:22,700 - who wrote the lives of eight + 472 + 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:17,015 + go back to Cambodia. - 345 - 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,980 - when it's in your - library, you know that. + 473 + 00:29:17,015 --> 00:29:18,874 + And where we're in Cambodia. - 346 - 00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:27,380 - And then if you I know - you don't have much time, + 474 + 00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:22,380 + Did you go to I - 347 - 00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:28,970 - you can do everything, but that's + 475 + 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:27,840 + about to mine back to + my home village again. - 348 - 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,040 - a complete story of - all the details. + 476 + 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,514 + And how long did you + stay in bottom mom? - 349 - 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,820 - And they were so crowded - per room that the + 477 + 00:29:32,514 --> 00:29:42,235 + I lived there until 198219 a2. - 350 - 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:36,800 - little boy now I think - that there's all + 478 + 00:29:42,235 --> 00:29:48,699 + And then I escape again. + During that period. - 351 - 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,780 - these by slip with the student. + 479 + 00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,829 + What were you doing in - 352 - 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:40,505 - When your student all strung, + 480 + 00:29:50,829 --> 00:29:55,400 + Battambang, roughly + between 791982? - 353 - 00:15:40,505 --> 00:15:43,160 - he left the minister sometime - and went into stake. + 481 + 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:05,004 + I start with the communication - 354 - 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,710 - Weren't hostile. - Very wonderful man. + 482 + 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,510 + and transport department in - 355 - 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:47,240 - He wrote histories and churches. + 483 + 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:15,439 + Guatemala City as + the regular employee - 356 - 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,319 - And that Dr. Adrian said - to Mr. Austin Student, + 484 + 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:20,939 + because I do not want anybody + knows about my background. - 357 - 00:15:51,319 --> 00:15:52,639 - You said knife, he - doesn't behave, + 485 + 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:31,219 + And after a year later than 1980, - 358 - 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,540 - you just give him a spanking - is actually don't hesitate. + 486 + 00:30:31,219 --> 00:30:33,935 + I was Yeah. - 359 - 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:58,069 - He said When I looked into + 487 + 00:30:33,935 --> 00:30:36,979 + That's close to 81. - 360 - 00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:59,989 - the blue eyes or that boy I could + 488 + 00:30:36,979 --> 00:30:39,950 + And I moved to we're in - 361 - 00:15:59,989 --> 00:16:02,480 - inspect it will consider + 489 + 00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:42,859 + the office because they + know that I can do + + 490 + 00:30:42,859 --> 00:30:44,585 + some paperwork in the office - 362 - 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,655 - that story. 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Yeah. Maybe a + backup a little I guess. - 371 - 00:16:23,105 --> 00:16:24,605 - And then the Civil War + 2 + 00:00:10,590 --> 00:00:13,050 + Maybe at the point of mentioning - 372 - 00:16:24,605 --> 00:16:26,390 - and then the Chicago - Fire and all of that. + 3 + 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:16,360 + you started working in an office. - 373 - 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:28,850 - The throne in together - went through that. + 4 + 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:21,630 + Oh, OK. Yeah. - 374 - 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:31,340 - And then he has - helped wrote down and + 5 + 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:24,030 + Now, you had mentioned that + you had been working in - 375 - 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:34,730 - he went west Oakland, California. + 6 + 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:25,830 + an office doing some work - 376 - 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:36,394 - John output Ericsson, + 7 + 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:28,080 + with bookkeeping, + things of that nature. - 377 - 00:16:36,394 --> 00:16:39,050 - which Pashto there at the - time, time of his death. + 8 + 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,950 + What other kinds of work + did you do? In the office? - 378 - 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:41,674 - On No, he was brought + 9 + 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:41,860 + At? My job is the typing, + the employee idlis, - 379 - 00:16:41,674 --> 00:16:43,100 - back across the country to + 10 + 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:47,660 + and then Phyllis, + all that were and - 380 - 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:44,660 - a general conference in Chicago. + 11 + 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:55,145 + then have all the administrator + sign on that list. - 381 - 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:47,120 - That's the last time he - appeared. When was that? + 12 + 00:00:55,145 --> 00:01:01,400 + And then we take the let's + go to the bank to get money. - 382 - 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:54,930 - Well, 9019191, night. + 13 + 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,130 + Because we start to have money. - 383 - 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:57,800 - We came to a peak of + 14 + 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:11,585 + I think around 1980 is the + new government in Cambodia. - 384 - 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:05,645 - Kansas in nineteen hundred - nineteen hundred or 191. + 15 + 00:01:11,585 --> 00:01:16,445 + They start to have money for + people to spend that time - 385 - 00:17:05,645 --> 00:17:10,220 - He moved to California in about - 1888 or and that's right? + 16 + 00:01:16,445 --> 00:01:22,790 + and then be my job to + help to make the list. - 386 - 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:13,579 - Yes. Yeah. Because at - the turn of the decade, + 17 + 00:01:22,790 --> 00:01:24,650 + Okay. Did you have - 387 - 00:17:13,579 --> 00:17:15,110 - Dr. logger Grant took over. + 18 + 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:26,915 + any other jobs while - 388 - 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:16,895 - Yes. I remember that gate. + 19 + 00:01:26,915 --> 00:01:29,600 + during this period + before you left again? - 389 - 00:17:16,895 --> 00:17:18,890 - And I figure let me tell - you something do check. + 20 + 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:41,000 + No. Highlights and end till + 1982 in June. June 1982. - 390 - 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:21,230 - Said to my wife. I uncheck - on this on myself. + 21 + 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,630 + Okay. What what was it + like in bottom bog with, - 391 - 00:17:21,230 --> 00:17:24,030 - So humbling to understand. + 22 + 00:01:47,630 --> 00:01:50,929 + with a new occupation, - 392 - 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:26,285 - But I don't nobody has children. + 23 + 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:52,445 + new people in power, - 393 - 00:17:26,285 --> 00:17:28,909 - I thought that boy told us + 24 + 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:55,700 + whether still incidents + of of abuses of - 394 - 00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:33,335 - about they call - luxuriant, who, which he? + 25 + 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:59,165 + power or were things fairly + stable, fairly calm. - 395 - 00:17:33,335 --> 00:17:36,905 - Well, he was a scholar from - Uppsala University in Sweden. + 26 + 00:01:59,165 --> 00:02:01,230 + What was it like there? - 396 - 00:17:36,905 --> 00:17:39,230 - The university, I - suppose you could say. + 27 + 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,360 + The new ghetto men? - 397 - 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:43,025 - And he was somehow - related to royal blood. + 28 + 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,730 + It deal. - 398 - 00:17:43,025 --> 00:17:44,389 - That's all we'll - say about that will + 29 + 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:12,800 + Keep looking. The people + that have connected - 399 - 00:17:44,389 --> 00:17:46,535 - reunite related to royal blood. + 30 + 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:23,180 + with some get shiny background. - 400 - 00:17:46,535 --> 00:17:50,750 - And it resembled hitting. - Firstname is gusto. + 31 + 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:26,390 + And also the one to know - 401 - 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:53,029 - And King gusto, they - named him got started + 32 + 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:29,810 + about the background + of the employee - 402 - 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:56,780 - because he's released - him there. I suppose. + 33 + 00:02:29,810 --> 00:02:37,310 + before you can get in to work + in the office or whatever. - 403 - 00:17:56,780 --> 00:17:59,345 - Atlas, true, you don't - want to spell that out, + 34 + 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:40,714 + They are. They asked + about the background, - 404 - 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,669 - but he, he said, + 35 + 00:02:40,714 --> 00:02:44,090 + writing like a resume, - 405 - 00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:03,410 - you know, meaning spiritually. + 36 + 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:47,665 + but I dare not trust them. - 406 - 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:05,300 - He said to one of the classes + 37 + 00:02:47,665 --> 00:02:49,609 + Still Hi my identity. - 407 - 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,764 - and one of the seven students, + 38 + 00:02:49,609 --> 00:02:54,120 + I didn't tell anybody except + my friend at no, before. - 408 - 00:18:06,764 --> 00:18:08,900 - and I've been in - his class, but he + 39 + 00:02:54,670 --> 00:03:00,005 + Were were people + are being picked up - 409 - 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,720 - said he was telling about it's - wonderful to be in Christ. + 40 + 00:03:00,005 --> 00:03:02,300 + where detention camps being still - 410 - 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,535 - It's wonderful to - be a child of God. + 41 + 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,135 + in existence in + Cambodia that time? - 411 - 00:18:13,535 --> 00:18:15,545 - It's wonderful to have - him in our heart. + 42 + 00:03:05,135 --> 00:03:10,534 + Yeah. They asked + all the employees - 412 - 00:18:15,545 --> 00:18:18,695 - And he said, Dick cone and - a blue with the desktop. + 43 + 00:03:10,534 --> 00:03:16,834 + go to training lake every two + the same they'd tomorrow's. - 413 - 00:18:18,695 --> 00:18:22,490 - Although there's King's blood - in these veins coursing, + 44 + 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:23,450 + But they gave us some freedom + to do something by their - 414 - 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:26,270 - you said, well that was that - he met spirit to love it. + 45 + 00:03:23,450 --> 00:03:26,765 + own because they didn't hold - 415 - 00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:28,235 - The boys thought those - who knew about it. + 46 + 00:03:26,765 --> 00:03:32,000 + a common kitchen + or As a two-word, - 416 - 00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:30,245 - But he had a wonderful mother + 47 + 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,015 + as that grew up in + a village anymore. + + 48 + 00:03:35,015 --> 00:03:37,595 + So we can do whatever V1. - 417 - 00:18:30,245 --> 00:18:32,405 - and she was a wonderful mother. + 49 + 00:03:37,595 --> 00:03:39,980 + But if the people that don't - 418 - 00:18:32,405 --> 00:18:35,149 - Storage that test - bring out, you know, + 50 + 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:42,770 + have enough resources to those, - 419 - 00:18:35,149 --> 00:18:38,450 - and we've asked about that. + 51 + 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:47,345 + the crop or something + like that that relates, - 420 - 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,879 - Well, I tell this - incident now you + 52 + 00:03:47,345 --> 00:03:50,180 + that relates leader provides - 421 - 00:18:40,879 --> 00:18:44,400 - forgive photographer myself, - I never do anything. + 53 + 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:53,270 + subnet and the ASA + to work as a team, - 422 - 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:50,420 - When we run the farm eggs - for $0.05 a dozen we sold. + 54 + 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:57,019 + but similar to the + tomatoes before. - 423 - 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:52,969 - And my mother would sell eggs and + 55 + 00:03:57,019 --> 00:03:59,330 + Now, you stated that you you - 424 - 00:18:52,969 --> 00:18:56,270 - butter and by calico - and coffee and sugar. + 56 + 00:03:59,330 --> 00:04:01,760 + laughed Cambodia in June of 1982. - 425 - 00:18:56,270 --> 00:19:00,079 - Now that's the depression - days of the nineties. And + 57 + 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,660 + Yeah. Why did you + leave at that time? - 426 - 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,674 - OK, again, when he - came to America, + 58 + 00:04:05,660 --> 00:04:08,510 + Was did something happen + to you want to if we - 427 - 00:19:02,674 --> 00:19:04,445 - I remember I was - talking about this + 59 + 00:04:08,510 --> 00:04:13,565 + or I have some pressure from work - 428 - 00:19:04,445 --> 00:19:06,709 - and he said he wanted - to visit the churches, + 60 + 00:04:13,565 --> 00:04:18,320 + because I feel that people trying - 429 - 00:19:06,709 --> 00:19:08,150 - Swedish churches in America. + 61 + 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:25,070 + to dating to find + out the background, - 430 - 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:10,475 - There were scattered from - coast to coast by that time. + 62 + 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:28,805 + my background because 11 time - 431 - 00:19:10,475 --> 00:19:12,920 - And he was down to - Kansas and he said, + 63 + 00:04:28,805 --> 00:04:34,050 + I was selected to go to study. - 432 - 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,960 - Oh, it was terribly - warm in Kansas. + 64 + 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,645 + And the people in that + department select myself. - 433 - 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,329 - I came into a room, there's - a guest and I said, + 65 + 00:04:38,645 --> 00:04:41,120 + But the other trend that we're - 434 - 00:19:17,329 --> 00:19:19,729 - Could I have a drink - of water is kind of + 66 + 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,080 + going to go to learn how to, - 435 - 00:19:19,729 --> 00:19:23,795 - our polytope and the Kaddish - violence he told them. + 67 + 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:53,540 + because they create a new + department called taxation. - 436 - 00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:27,979 - But the dates, I figure this way, + 68 + 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:56,885 + And know that I can go + they see like me to go. - 437 - 00:19:27,979 --> 00:19:29,719 - if you'll forgive me not mother + 69 + 00:04:56,885 --> 00:04:59,300 + But before I can go, - 438 - 00:19:29,719 --> 00:19:31,549 - sent he was going to come - in at the station at + 70 + 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:03,395 + I need to have background checks. - 439 - 00:19:31,549 --> 00:19:33,800 - whatever hill town lottery grant + 71 + 00:05:03,395 --> 00:05:07,835 + My name was sent to the office. - 440 - 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,630 - and coming out of our - little church there. + 72 + 00:05:07,835 --> 00:05:13,370 + They call as the Cambodian + what they call carrier lie. - 441 - 00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:38,780 - And my mother and father sent - Albert, That's a seconds, + 73 + 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:17,240 + Just doesn't that mean + the appointment office. - 442 - 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:40,159 - and he was Nixon on older to + 74 + 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,190 + Before they can appoint you to - 443 - 00:19:40,159 --> 00:19:42,515 - my brother Alfred - hits. You know, AJ + 75 + 00:05:19,190 --> 00:05:21,560 + go you need to go + through that office, - 444 - 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:45,155 - I was five, I - figured occupy them. + 76 + 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,000 + the check our background. - 445 - 00:19:45,155 --> 00:19:47,599 - And she sent us and - father sent to of + 77 + 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,560 + They come to look at + physical and they look at - 446 - 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:50,960 - course to meet logger - grin at the sub tree. + 78 + 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,515 + your face trying to ask - 447 - 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,640 - I mean, little country - trained, you know, + 79 + 00:05:30,515 --> 00:05:33,845 + or their friend about + the background. - 448 - 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,300 - and she gave us several - extra sale and she said, + 80 + 00:05:33,845 --> 00:05:37,729 + And I went through that process. - 449 - 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:57,769 - now you voice can have + 81 + 00:05:37,729 --> 00:05:42,290 + I fail because they look at they - 450 - 00:19:57,769 --> 00:20:00,350 - this egg to sell - and buy candy for. + 82 + 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:44,930 + say I have some kind of - 451 - 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:01,850 - Get $0.05 for genome. + 83 + 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:48,560 + a Chinese ethnic and + they don't trust it. - 452 - 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:04,235 - And so we bought candy for $0.05. + 84 + 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,225 + Okay. And the other friend + a path they can go. - 453 - 00:20:04,235 --> 00:20:09,020 - Well, when we got to the station, + 85 + 00:05:53,225 --> 00:05:57,950 + Okay. Now, what did that mean + than if they failed you, - 454 - 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:10,700 - we got to town, we - would got Dr. law, + 86 + 00:05:57,950 --> 00:06:01,175 + that that meant that you + didn't get that opportunity. - 455 - 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:17,360 - given he was a very stately - person and dignity scholar. + 87 + 00:06:01,175 --> 00:06:04,445 + But did that mean they might + come after you then later? - 456 - 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,985 - And in Sweden, you know, - there's a great Git. + 88 + 00:06:04,445 --> 00:06:06,380 + I didn't know at that time, - 457 - 00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:25,080 - You don't say you, they say - him use the third person. + 89 + 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:09,575 + but I feel that it's + not safe to stay. - 458 - 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:32,240 - They use it for a little - bit about the new this. + 90 + 00:06:09,575 --> 00:06:14,330 + And also my relative have - 459 - 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,260 - He wants a glass of water. + 91 + 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:17,075 + some problem in my hometown - 460 - 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,974 - That means, you - know, third-person + 92 + 00:06:17,075 --> 00:06:20,525 + because they knew that + IVR escaped before, - 461 - 00:20:35,974 --> 00:20:39,050 - menu's done, I remember. + 93 + 00:06:20,525 --> 00:06:24,890 + during 1979 or my + family that escape it. - 462 - 00:20:39,050 --> 00:20:41,670 - And with him was August - Johnson, who was a missionary. + 94 + 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:27,440 + And we don't want to, - 463 - 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:44,359 - Went around or salary just - helping the poor farmers in + 95 + 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,605 + we're in the farm to feel again. - 464 - 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,419 - Western Kansas and getting + 96 + 00:06:30,605 --> 00:06:33,740 + So am I trying to escape? - 465 - 00:20:47,419 --> 00:20:49,415 - what he got a brother in - Chicago. We helped him. + 97 + 00:06:33,740 --> 00:06:40,070 + So the last time a escape + it my way because I got - 466 - 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:50,660 - He's a tailored therapy, + 98 + 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:43,355 + married and in November 1981 - 467 - 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:53,555 - but he was in that week - two when we met him. + 99 + 00:06:43,355 --> 00:06:47,060 + and I escaped with my + wife and my wife URL. - 468 - 00:20:53,555 --> 00:20:56,900 - And I was I was + 100 + 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:54,785 + Pattern and her sibling and + also my mother and my sister, - 469 - 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:58,700 - five years old and I have + 101 + 00:06:54,785 --> 00:06:57,260 + except my brother, that - 470 - 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,890 - had the time and forgive - me for saying this, + 102 + 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,555 + he got married and + her two children. - 471 - 00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,740 - but that little boy that + 103 + 00:06:59,555 --> 00:07:02,060 + He cannot escape at that time. - 472 - 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:06,935 - I think is spring spring - bucket, we call it. + 104 + 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:04,985 + So he decided to stay. - 473 - 00:21:06,935 --> 00:21:09,140 - I was privileged to come to + 105 + 00:07:04,985 --> 00:07:10,740 + Ok. And how long did it take + you to get to the border? - 474 - 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:11,150 - the same school where + 106 + 00:07:11,530 --> 00:07:15,995 + From bottom bond to border? - 475 - 00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:13,745 - Dr. long range to be the - dean of the seminary. + 107 + 00:07:15,995 --> 00:07:18,965 + Only one day. - 476 - 00:21:13,745 --> 00:21:15,640 - We never know when - you see a little boy, + 108 + 00:07:18,965 --> 00:07:21,905 + Did you have any problems + crossing the border? - 477 - 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,760 - they're all better than I am. + 109 + 00:07:21,905 --> 00:07:24,425 + How would happen? - 478 - 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,710 - And there's segments, you - never know what's going + 110 + 00:07:24,425 --> 00:07:26,840 + I gotta arrest one time. - 479 - 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:21,410 - to become a euro. + 111 + 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,430 + They put me in jail. - 480 - 00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:23,975 - That makes the - difference it makes, + 112 + 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:30,690 + They call seize upon. - 481 - 00:21:23,975 --> 00:21:26,270 - I read that the - first 12 months of + 113 + 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:35,230 + They arrested you + and put you in jail. - 482 - 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:30,304 - a baby is the most important - predators like it makes, + 114 + 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:37,270 + What happened? How + long were you in jail? - 483 - 00:21:30,304 --> 00:21:31,640 - it makes an impression on him. + 115 + 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:40,090 + Only one day, window in + the morning and then - 484 - 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,470 - That's ending whether - he knows it or not. + 116 + 00:07:40,090 --> 00:07:43,540 + laid a learning my pattern, - 485 - 00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:35,810 - And then the article said - that what did it say? + 117 + 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:46,510 + just negotiate the + people over there, - 486 - 00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:38,165 - That the father should be with - him as well as the mother? + 118 + 00:07:46,510 --> 00:07:50,200 + tried to bribe them to get + me and my life outlet that. - 487 - 00:21:38,165 --> 00:21:39,860 - The father should be - with him half the + 119 + 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,345 + Okay. And then we come back to - 488 - 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:42,680 - time or the first 12 months, + 120 + 00:07:52,345 --> 00:07:54,850 + bite them both to live for + about a couple of months. - 489 - 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,569 - mother the other time - or at the same time, + 121 + 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:57,740 + And I made lately again. - 490 - 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:46,625 - it's on it's so important. + 122 + 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 + While you were in jail, - 491 - 00:21:46,625 --> 00:21:49,280 - Well, you know, + 123 + 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 + did anything did + they interrogate you - 492 - 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,245 - children are important. - Intends to kill + 124 + 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,610 + or abuse you in any way? - 493 - 00:21:51,245 --> 00:21:53,510 - my daughter, Hellen, - whom, you know, + 125 + 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:10,450 + Because it's only one day + that didn't do anything yet. - 494 - 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:54,770 - it's just closing her work now, + 126 + 00:08:10,450 --> 00:08:14,060 + They just put me at the + dyadic people matter. - 495 - 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:58,535 - five years teaching the little - children to the church. + 127 + 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:18,590 + Okay. You return to bottom bond. - 496 - 00:21:58,535 --> 00:22:00,110 - He's done a wonderful job. + 128 + 00:08:18,590 --> 00:08:22,130 + You were there for two more + months and then you yes. - 497 - 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:03,079 - So you've done a wonderful - job just closing these days + 129 + 00:08:22,130 --> 00:08:23,465 + About to learn. - 498 - 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:06,034 - now and she's resigning well, + 130 + 00:08:23,465 --> 00:08:26,420 + Okay. And then I escape + again because I'm - 499 - 00:22:06,034 --> 00:22:07,879 - and she had been in that - work and she's loved we've + 131 + 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:29,510 + afraid I have some + problem with that. - 500 - 00:22:07,879 --> 00:22:11,119 - got a huge well, + 132 + 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:34,340 + And then next time that IS + that last time I escape? - 501 - 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:18,815 - not Lager came and the - Seminary was in Chicago. + 133 + 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:36,515 + A yes. - 502 - 00:22:18,815 --> 00:22:21,365 - It had moved to different - places, of course, + 134 + 00:08:36,515 --> 00:08:39,410 + Highest somebody + trying to help me - 503 - 00:22:21,365 --> 00:22:24,860 - litres in St. Paul - awhile trumps pretty + 135 + 00:08:39,410 --> 00:08:43,980 + to go through the Alone the way. - 504 - 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:26,960 - Nebraska file and - they're going to give + 136 + 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:46,490 + Did you go by yourself + or did you go - 505 - 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,255 - them some money if they'd - come there and all of that. + 137 + 00:08:46,490 --> 00:08:48,260 + with the same group of people? - 506 - 00:22:29,255 --> 00:22:31,745 - But mainly in Chicago. + 138 + 00:08:48,260 --> 00:08:52,580 + The same people but a + little bit different time. - 507 - 00:22:31,745 --> 00:22:33,499 - There were three professors, + 139 + 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:58,685 + Okay. While you were in + Battambang that last time, - 508 - 00:22:33,499 --> 00:22:36,680 - Dr. logger in Dr. - Sandel, Dr. Hindi. + 140 + 00:08:58,685 --> 00:09:00,755 + did anything unusual happened? - 509 - 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,780 - And there was a petition - there for awhile. + 141 + 00:09:00,755 --> 00:09:02,870 + We're authorities looking for you - 510 - 00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:42,530 - Now the generals the American - bread and were very kind. + 142 + 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:08,120 + or they keep an eye + on me all the time. - 511 - 00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:44,630 - There came a time when - they paid two with + 143 + 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,340 + Because I live in - 512 - 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:46,490 - the professors and - the Swedish people. + 144 + 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:13,130 + the bookkeeping and loaded with - 513 - 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:48,170 - We paid one profession, + 145 + 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:16,265 + the money that people are + just keep watching me. - 514 - 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:49,984 - we pay log min - salary, real estate, + 146 + 00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:21,185 + But every day I feel + like a lot of pressure - 515 - 00:22:49,984 --> 00:22:54,515 - and then each of the two - got 50, whatever it was. + 147 + 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:24,320 + that you felt that they might - 516 - 00:22:54,515 --> 00:22:57,170 - And maybe Dean got more - of those three with + 148 + 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,075 + eventually arrest you and - 517 - 00:22:57,170 --> 00:23:00,170 - the professors and everything - was taught in Sweden. + 149 + 00:09:26,075 --> 00:09:28,385 + perhaps send you + away or kill you? - 518 - 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:02,569 - Chip Koch Lager even - didn't have the + 150 + 00:09:28,385 --> 00:09:34,670 + Probably. Okay. Okay. + So you had hired - 519 - 00:23:02,569 --> 00:23:05,420 - efficient that - wouldn't go forever. + 151 + 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:37,040 + someone to help you + and your family - 520 - 00:23:05,420 --> 00:23:07,190 - He said wanted to their students, + 152 + 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,050 + escape and then this - 521 - 00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:09,125 - don't worry about the - English language. + 153 + 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:41,375 + time you were successful + in crossing the border? - 522 - 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:10,490 - Don't try to think. + 154 + 00:09:41,375 --> 00:09:43,880 + Yeah. Ok. And then - 523 - 00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:13,520 - You have to. You will never - have to preach in English. + 155 + 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,115 + where did you go after + you cross the border? - 524 - 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,770 - It's going to be - sweets all the time. + 156 + 00:09:46,115 --> 00:09:51,740 + I stay in that - 525 - 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:18,185 - He said, well, he that is - like a vision, you know. + 157 + 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:57,575 + they call ME that's as + close to the border. - 526 - 00:23:18,185 --> 00:23:21,110 - And finally, finally he resigned. + 158 + 00:09:57,575 --> 00:10:00,380 + Stayed there about three months. - 527 - 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:22,415 - He stayed on to long, + 159 + 00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:04,940 + And I don't have + money to go again - 528 - 00:23:22,415 --> 00:23:25,810 - many would say I'm membrane - Bethel Church, Minneapolis. + 160 + 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:10,160 + to carried out camp because + they need to walk about. - 529 - 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:27,290 - He and his seminar had + 161 + 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,245 + Alma, RNA tried to get away + from the Thai soldier from - 530 - 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:29,825 - a commencement that - church that church. + 162 + 00:10:15,245 --> 00:10:20,045 + the robbery, dropped that. - 531 - 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:33,034 - And my pastor WHO + 163 + 00:10:20,045 --> 00:10:22,220 + You don't know how to get there. - 532 - 00:23:33,034 --> 00:23:35,134 - introduced him or - something and he said, + 164 + 00:10:22,220 --> 00:10:26,270 + You will be wrapped by or assault - 533 - 00:23:35,134 --> 00:23:37,340 - Well, Dr. logging and - won't be with us. + 165 + 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:30,515 + by the Thai people or by + the soul allowed the bada. - 534 - 00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:41,899 - So very long ago that - login got up and he said, + 166 + 00:10:30,515 --> 00:10:36,020 + Okay. So then did - 535 - 00:23:41,899 --> 00:23:43,729 - when it comes time to resign, + 167 + 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:38,090 + you eventually end up + in carrier and and - 536 - 00:23:43,729 --> 00:23:46,140 - it'll be either will result. + 168 + 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:41,550 + I I reached carried down. - 537 - 00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:52,069 - But even then he had a - pension and he resigned + 169 + 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:48,170 + That's l2. Care. + With your family? - 538 - 00:23:52,069 --> 00:23:56,420 - then that live to the age of 75. + 170 + 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:50,600 + Yeah. Okay. All of you together? - 539 - 00:23:56,420 --> 00:23:59,615 - And Qi He never use glasses. + 171 + 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,525 + Okay. How long were + you and carried on? - 540 - 00:23:59,615 --> 00:24:01,910 - You weren't in these - classes with him? + 172 + 00:10:56,525 --> 00:11:07,310 + I stay and carried out + until December 1983. - 541 - 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:03,305 - He never used glasses. + 173 + 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:17,620 + Okay. Okay. What did + you do and carry down? - 542 - 00:24:03,305 --> 00:24:05,389 - He said to me once, - it's a weakness to + 174 + 00:11:17,620 --> 00:11:20,740 + I start working because I feel - 543 - 00:24:05,389 --> 00:24:07,580 - use flash and it shows - that you're not all there. + 175 + 00:11:20,740 --> 00:11:23,230 + like I'm so depressed there. - 544 - 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:09,815 - It's a weakness to - erode, less inhibited. + 176 + 00:11:23,230 --> 00:11:25,450 + Whenever they're there for a few, - 545 - 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,795 - He didn't have to use cheaper + 177 + 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:27,490 + we have nothing to do. - 546 - 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:15,230 - and that mattress - that with lowering. + 178 + 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:28,960 + Really like it live in - 547 - 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:20,000 - Now, did you did you ever - hear Ed Goodman Preet? + 179 + 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,020 + the jail because to + have a fun around, - 548 - 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,399 - You know, I missed it or I met + 180 + 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:34,220 + you cannot walk anywhere. - 549 - 00:24:22,399 --> 00:24:25,805 - him or when you - watched in Chicago, + 181 + 00:11:34,350 --> 00:11:36,730 + And I start working with - 550 - 00:24:25,805 --> 00:24:28,670 - I could've gone, - but my mother and + 182 + 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:43,910 + the IRC, International + Rescue Committee. - 551 - 00:24:28,670 --> 00:24:30,709 - father thought it - wasn't necessarily + 183 + 00:11:44,950 --> 00:11:48,540 + And what kind of work + were you doing with them? - 552 - 00:24:30,709 --> 00:24:32,780 - that I go and they regret it. + 184 + 00:11:48,730 --> 00:11:53,930 + Doing the lab technician as - 553 - 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:34,430 - A lot of things. You - know, we spent a year + 185 + 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:57,275 + the blood bank and keep the blood - 554 - 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:36,140 - in sweet mother - ministry children. + 186 + 00:11:57,275 --> 00:12:01,550 + ordered blood for + the hospital there. - 555 - 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:38,180 - My sister and I. She's - 12 and I was ten. + 187 + 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:05,540 + And I have some background + about that then - 556 - 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:40,700 - We just went to visit - relatives in Sweden. + 188 + 00:12:05,540 --> 00:12:10,940 + that time I cannot speak + English very well. - 557 - 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,279 - And she said afterwards - she didn't realize how + 189 + 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:14,855 + So I just mixed with friends + and English all the time. - 558 - 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,679 - much it would mean to - have two years there, + 190 + 00:12:14,855 --> 00:12:17,525 + And my friend over + there teach me to - 559 - 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:46,969 - an excursion to stop cone, + 191 + 00:12:17,525 --> 00:12:21,330 + Howard and keep + learning from them. - 560 - 00:24:46,969 --> 00:24:48,395 - but, but we didn't go. + 192 + 00:12:23,890 --> 00:12:27,710 + Did you go to any other + camps after carried down, - 561 - 00:24:48,395 --> 00:24:51,170 - And the same with this. + 193 + 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:28,940 + where did you come directly - 562 - 00:24:51,170 --> 00:24:52,999 - Now, this is in Chicago - and I wanted to go, + 194 + 00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:30,710 + to the United States after that? - 563 - 00:24:52,999 --> 00:24:54,410 - and I don't blame my parents. + 195 + 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:33,830 + Now, I work with - 564 - 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,719 - But they they said, well, Henry, + 196 + 00:12:33,830 --> 00:12:37,370 + the International Red + Cross for a few months. - 565 - 00:24:56,719 --> 00:24:59,390 - he can be important that - you should go there. + 197 + 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:39,800 + And then at that time I file - 566 - 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:01,640 - And that's when they - introduced him for + 198 + 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,220 + a petition to come + to United State. - 567 - 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,410 - the last time and it took up + 199 + 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:47,780 + And later on I was + a subnet to come. - 568 - 00:25:03,410 --> 00:25:05,300 - an offering as a gift to him. + 200 + 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:52,160 + And I went to work with the JV, - 569 - 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:06,830 - I hope it's big, but - I'm afraid it wasn't. + 201 + 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,675 + a detailed jar + involuntary agency for - 570 - 00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:11,915 - Biggest. Should've is now - longer granted. Rushdie, + 202 + 00:12:56,675 --> 00:13:02,390 + interpreting how people + and 6AM until December 83. - 571 - 00:25:11,915 --> 00:25:19,685 - and he wish she'll + 203 + 00:13:02,390 --> 00:13:06,655 + They move my my summer, - 572 - 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,680 - say that she had the - same lectures year + 204 + 00:13:06,655 --> 00:13:13,040 + my wife, to a processing + cam and Sean Murray. - 573 - 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,089 - after year and you know who + 205 + 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,140 + And that time, the GABA-A - 574 - 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:24,200 - it's easier to teach and yeah, + 206 + 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:23,765 + won me to go back to work with + them again and carry down. - 575 - 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,330 - that and they used to say, + 207 + 00:13:23,765 --> 00:13:27,725 + And they asked me to and I say, - 576 - 00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:30,229 - God forgive me for the paper - on which it was written, + 208 + 00:13:27,725 --> 00:13:29,600 + yes, decide to go back to work. - 577 - 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:31,760 - resume with age and oh, + 209 + 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,035 + But my wife and John + Murray came for awhile. - 578 - 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,700 - good theology and so on. + 210 + 00:13:33,035 --> 00:13:36,545 + And after I've gone back to + work for a few about man. - 579 - 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:37,520 - And what was it like - in the classroom? + 211 + 00:13:36,545 --> 00:13:39,260 + And they say that they - 580 - 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,209 - Well, you didn't see him - when he was very dignified + 212 + 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:41,750 + want my wife to go + to Philippine to - 581 - 00:25:41,209 --> 00:25:43,250 - and he was very - courteous to just like + 213 + 00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:43,820 + learn English first and - 582 - 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,530 - it should be very courteous. + 214 + 00:13:43,820 --> 00:13:47,270 + leave me to work with + them for six months. - 583 - 00:25:45,530 --> 00:25:48,920 - He said once that - commencement, he said, + 215 + 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:50,645 + And I have an + algorithm with them. - 584 - 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,630 - now when this is over, + 216 + 00:13:50,645 --> 00:13:52,220 + I don't want to - 585 - 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:54,035 - I believe that breathe unesco - spring out Watergate tall. + 217 + 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:55,400 + separate that and my wife + doesn't want to do that. - 586 - 00:25:54,035 --> 00:25:55,864 - Once you, when this is over, + 218 + 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,060 + And then I break the + contract. I didn't work. - 587 - 00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:56,839 - you're going to run away and + 219 + 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,580 + So they sent me and my wife + to know cam in Indonesia, - 588 - 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:58,250 - forget where you've - been all the time. + 220 + 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:06,870 + the color Golan cam. - 589 - 00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:03,260 - I want all of you to come - up and say goodbye to me, + 221 + 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:15,125 + In I think the end of the + summer of 1983 along river. - 590 - 00:26:03,260 --> 00:26:08,330 - farewell for the summer - in a courteous way. + 222 + 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:21,440 + I stay there six months + until June 1984. - 591 - 00:26:08,330 --> 00:26:10,445 - And they did them. But - he wanted to thing + 223 + 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,120 + During statesman, I work + with the United Nation. - 592 - 00:26:10,445 --> 00:26:12,980 - done right? And so on. + 224 + 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,585 + Kierkegaard, UNHCR. - 593 - 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:15,439 - And all the students struggling + 225 + 00:14:29,585 --> 00:14:33,305 + What kind of work were + you doing for the UNHCR? - 594 - 00:26:15,439 --> 00:26:17,479 - for once there two - or three of them, + 226 + 00:14:33,305 --> 00:14:36,245 + They asked me to help - 595 - 00:26:17,479 --> 00:26:19,129 - and that they shouldn't - have done it, + 227 + 00:14:36,245 --> 00:14:40,460 + prepare check that + less of the employee - 596 - 00:26:19,129 --> 00:26:20,750 - but they kind of - start little trouble. + 228 + 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:43,940 + working there and then they paid - 597 - 00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:23,104 - And you went through - that and you said today, + 229 + 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:45,590 + as a salary every week - 598 - 00:26:23,104 --> 00:26:26,150 - and I know what it is to - have students an uprising. + 230 + 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:48,450 + to the employee that + within the camp. - 599 - 00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:27,350 - Platinum, my yp, she's + 231 + 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,030 + And then Okay. - 600 - 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:28,430 - I don't know. I - don't happen to me. + 232 + 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,970 + So then in 1984 you came + to the United States. - 601 - 00:26:28,430 --> 00:26:29,450 - I could understood it. + 233 + 00:14:55,970 --> 00:15:00,005 + Yeah, I love Golan + cam to United State, - 602 - 00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:31,250 - Well, those little - things can happen. + 234 + 00:15:00,005 --> 00:15:03,259 + but stay a one week in Singapore. - 603 - 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:33,529 - Uc Irvine might have + 235 + 00:15:03,259 --> 00:15:06,380 + Ten that the color processing, - 604 - 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:36,379 - might have triggered - that. You recall + 236 + 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:09,800 + waiting for the flight to come. - 605 - 00:26:36,379 --> 00:26:38,540 - Maybe he wished he would. + 237 + 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,890 + Okay. And while you were in - 606 - 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:40,730 - It was always strongest theology. + 238 + 00:15:12,890 --> 00:15:15,260 + Indonesia and in + Singapore, you were also, - 607 - 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:43,130 - Now, sprite, I know about - strong, I think he's wonderful. + 239 + 00:15:15,260 --> 00:15:17,480 + they were telling + you or teaching you - 608 - 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:44,900 - Have you ever heard of - strong salvage? A big book. + 240 + 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,805 + about the United States and + how things operate here, - 609 - 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:46,985 - That lecture contains everything. + 241 + 00:15:22,805 --> 00:15:25,010 + is that when you have a class - 610 - 00:26:46,985 --> 00:26:50,015 - And that Lindbergh, + 242 + 00:15:25,010 --> 00:15:27,710 + teaching three months for people, - 611 - 00:26:50,015 --> 00:26:52,985 - you remember that he was - kind of a insurgent. + 243 + 00:15:27,710 --> 00:15:31,055 + but I don't have a chance to + learn all of that because - 612 - 00:26:52,985 --> 00:26:56,645 - He was one of those boys - club it with a little bit + 244 + 00:15:31,055 --> 00:15:34,280 + they say that I can speak + English, I can understand. - 613 - 00:26:56,645 --> 00:27:00,784 - with Dr. Lander whose - mission secretary, + 245 + 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,240 + So they asked me to + work to help them. - 614 - 00:27:00,784 --> 00:27:02,390 - Pastor Chuck been happening. + 246 + 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,945 + But eventually I got a + job with the UN ACR. - 615 - 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:04,369 - Elana, you should tell - us that the coffee table + 247 + 00:15:41,945 --> 00:15:47,195 + So they kind of go to the + class on a one hour a day. - 616 - 00:27:04,369 --> 00:27:06,965 - that NOT who was right. + 248 + 00:15:47,195 --> 00:15:50,190 + And beside that, I + just go to work. - 617 - 00:27:06,965 --> 00:27:11,375 - There was a final examination - and logarithm said to you, + 249 + 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:53,180 + Okay. Did you fly directly to - 618 - 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:12,859 - Dr. Laura, and say, do - you have to you have + 250 + 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,190 + Minnesota when you + left Singapore? - 619 - 00:27:12,859 --> 00:27:16,775 - to take it over again, - didn't goodness. + 251 + 00:15:55,190 --> 00:16:01,190 + Yes. Okay. And did you + come to the twin cities - 620 - 00:27:16,775 --> 00:27:18,664 - And our Landry, he was kind of it + 252 + 00:16:01,190 --> 00:16:04,130 + or Rochester or where did that I - 621 - 00:27:18,664 --> 00:27:21,575 - senator. He said lot-to-lot grid. + 253 + 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:08,375 + can then seti because my + mother-in-law came here first. - 622 - 00:27:21,575 --> 00:27:24,635 - You can either flip - me or not plugged me. + 254 + 00:16:08,375 --> 00:16:15,530 + Okay. And so did you move + in with your mother-in-law? - 623 - 00:27:24,635 --> 00:27:26,465 - I won't take it over again. + 255 + 00:16:15,530 --> 00:16:20,780 + Yeah. Okay. So what once + you relocated here, - 624 - 00:27:26,465 --> 00:27:28,205 - Wetland mended wonderfully. + 256 + 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:23,120 + what what did what + were you doing? - 625 - 00:27:28,205 --> 00:27:28,730 - Committee. + 257 + 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,590 + Were you taking classes or did - 626 - 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:30,470 - He knew he's a good man - to go out on the field. + 258 + 00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:27,750 + they have you start working? - 627 - 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:32,630 - He's a good preacher, - bright color. + 259 + 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:30,800 + The lowdown? - 628 - 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:34,460 - But I said there's + 260 + 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,245 + So say this is my sponsor. - 629 - 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,080 - a young children are going + 261 + 00:16:33,245 --> 00:16:37,085 + And when I came, - 630 - 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760 - to end up at that coffee table. + 262 + 00:16:37,085 --> 00:16:42,560 + he has asked me to what job, - 631 - 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,710 - It had reached home and I + 263 + 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,310 + part time job that I want + to do, something like that. + + 264 + 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:52,760 + And they as I want + to go to school, - 632 - 00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:43,130 - thought you were inquiry - a courteous to to to him. + 265 + 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,855 + but I have no money, nothing. - 633 - 00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:45,140 - He wanted you to get that better + 266 + 00:16:56,855 --> 00:16:59,840 + My sponsor, one meter, - 634 - 00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:48,800 - and you wouldn't submit - to His direction. + 267 + 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,240 + you will find a job. - 635 - 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,770 - He was your supervisor and said, + 268 + 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,650 + Because they said I + can able to work. - 636 - 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:54,035 - well now kinda jump. + 269 + 00:17:07,810 --> 00:17:11,690 + And about three weeks + after I sell in - 637 - 00:27:54,035 --> 00:27:55,910 - You looked at your - watch and we stop here. + 270 + 00:17:11,690 --> 00:17:14,900 + Minnesota and I got a job - 638 - 00:27:55,910 --> 00:27:58,070 - We got the students - back in those days + 271 + 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:16,580 + because Sponsor work with - 639 - 00:27:58,070 --> 00:28:00,784 - were all Greek operative rehab + 272 + 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:18,380 + the latrines social + service and got - 640 - 00:28:00,784 --> 00:28:04,339 - recalcitrant. That means - that when we start, + 273 + 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:23,255 + a part-time job there + for about two months. - 641 - 00:28:04,339 --> 00:28:06,019 - we're still kinda jumping - out of the other sites + 274 + 00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:27,365 + As the clerk, there's + help filing paper - 642 - 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:08,015 - are like how do the - Academy started? + 275 + 00:17:27,365 --> 00:17:33,035 + or keep track document for + the refugee that came. - 643 - 00:28:08,015 --> 00:28:10,565 - His brother gave me some - highlights to talk about. + 276 + 00:17:33,035 --> 00:17:36,065 + And after that. - 644 - 00:28:10,565 --> 00:28:14,465 - I'm shooting and I'm doing well. + 277 + 00:17:36,065 --> 00:17:40,130 + The job was run now has nothing + to do and they get laid - 645 - 00:28:14,465 --> 00:28:17,510 - It was a 103 Brother. + 278 + 00:17:40,130 --> 00:17:45,230 + off or stay home about one way. - 646 - 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:19,595 - Dave said what, what - started as Seminary? + 279 + 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,350 + And then the community, - 647 - 00:28:19,595 --> 00:28:21,950 - When I started college, - I started the academies. + 280 + 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:52,010 + Cambodian community in Twin City, - 648 - 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,540 - Huh? That's fine. + 281 + 00:17:52,010 --> 00:17:55,925 + they need some body + that able to were. - 649 - 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:26,270 - And it was a January - Conference in Trump's broke. + 282 + 00:17:55,925 --> 00:18:00,655 + And the, - 650 - 00:28:26,270 --> 00:28:28,130 - We had some fine - churches down there. + 283 + 00:18:00,655 --> 00:18:02,770 + I know one of my teachers as - 651 - 00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:31,160 - They were faithful country - churches, some of them. + 284 + 00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:05,680 + the board member, + the urbanization. - 652 - 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,170 - And they put to me, + 285 + 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,180 + And the he asked me + to go to work there. - 653 - 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:34,399 - and they kind of cringe to + 286 + 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:12,070 + And they offer me - 654 - 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:39,125 - give the two main aggressors - we'll call Sunday afternoon. + 287 + 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:18,110 + a job full-time job at + the director of a MA. - 655 - 00:28:39,125 --> 00:28:42,964 - One was Dr. Frank Peterson, + 288 + 00:18:18,750 --> 00:18:24,715 + So I started that job + from September 84 - 656 - 00:28:42,964 --> 00:28:45,379 - wonderful man. And the other one + 289 + 00:18:24,715 --> 00:18:31,225 + until October edify occur + because of a lot of pressure. - 657 - 00:28:45,379 --> 00:28:47,360 - was Professor Eric Dr. Erickson, + 290 + 00:18:31,225 --> 00:18:33,880 + And the job is so + hard for me to do - 658 - 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,650 - Dale, or the seminary. + 291 + 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,390 + it because I'm new + in this country. - 659 - 00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:52,280 - They didn't tell them what - to say. As I understand it. + 292 + 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:39,550 + I didn't know how to read fun. - 660 - 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,249 - They just put them on - for the message and + 293 + 00:18:39,550 --> 00:18:41,870 + I didn't know how to looking - 661 - 00:28:55,249 --> 00:28:57,230 - got seem to lead so that + 294 + 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:45,155 + for fun to support the program. - 662 - 00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:59,600 - both of them took the same theme, + 295 + 00:18:45,155 --> 00:18:48,365 + Finally, I decide to quit. - 663 - 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,629 - that we need an - educational institution + 296 + 00:18:48,365 --> 00:18:53,330 + Before I quit, I'm lucky + that I got another job. - 664 - 00:29:02,629 --> 00:29:05,569 - in our conference to - receive our young people, + 297 + 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:54,770 + So the Ramsey County - 665 - 00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:07,580 - especially those who call into + 298 + 00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:56,780 + because I'm working + with them before. - 666 - 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:09,980 - Christian service, - where they can get + 299 + 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:59,960 + So they they know + only that asked me - 667 - 00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:11,269 - not only seminary training, + 300 + 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,090 + too because I said I - 668 - 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:13,715 - which we have at - professional coursing them. + 301 + 00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:04,565 + don't want to end up + placing it anymore. - 669 - 00:29:13,715 --> 00:29:16,285 - But, but wouldn't - it have been done? + 302 + 00:19:04,565 --> 00:19:07,865 + And then they say + you can apply job in - 670 - 00:29:16,285 --> 00:29:18,455 - They call it the training - high school and college. + 303 + 00:19:07,865 --> 00:19:09,680 + Ramsey County and then I apply - 671 - 00:29:18,455 --> 00:29:20,060 - And now the Lutherans have + 304 + 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,840 + I got that job and + but I'm here now. - 672 - 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:21,440 - that another - denomination. I haven't. + 305 + 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,060 + Ok. And you're with + Ramsey County now? - 673 - 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,580 - And we are the poorest of all. + 306 + 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,805 + Yes. What is the what + kind of a job isn't - 674 - 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,535 - We're a most efficient, - inefficient. + 307 + 00:19:16,805 --> 00:19:19,820 + the first job that I got as - 675 - 00:29:25,535 --> 00:29:28,160 - And it shows that just went + 308 + 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:23,615 + an interpreter to help + people in Ramsey County. - 676 - 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,399 - through which God led both - of them to just a GUI, + 309 + 00:19:23,615 --> 00:19:27,425 + That about three years later, - 677 - 00:29:31,399 --> 00:29:35,390 - one with the other in - that theme and show. + 310 + 00:19:27,425 --> 00:19:30,530 + the county of tests - 678 - 00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:37,099 - They took it up and + 311 + 00:19:30,530 --> 00:19:33,980 + that I can take a test to + become a financial look. - 679 - 00:29:37,099 --> 00:29:43,250 - they see they wait until - the next year, 1993. + 312 + 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:38,690 + And then I pass at + that time in 1989. - 680 - 00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:44,779 - And my brother and I was at + 313 + 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:40,880 + So I have become a + financial it then - 681 - 00:29:44,779 --> 00:29:46,910 - the conference in - 1904 in Kansas City, + 314 + 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,725 + Ramsey County, OK. Now, - 682 - 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:49,055 - Missouri, Mr. Pq and + 315 + 00:19:42,725 --> 00:19:47,045 + are you working with solely + with Cambodians and other - 683 - 00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:51,994 - we when young people - are working on day two + 316 + 00:19:47,045 --> 00:19:49,880 + Asians or are you working with - 684 - 00:29:51,994 --> 00:29:55,069 - And so the next year, 194, + 317 + 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,045 + a wide variety of + groups of my job now? - 685 - 00:29:55,069 --> 00:29:57,740 - they appointed a committee - to go ahead with + 318 + 00:19:53,045 --> 00:19:57,200 + Yep. No, I'm working but + the American client. - 686 - 00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:59,240 - that and they just heard + 319 + 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,090 + I'm not every fuji, - 687 - 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,420 - the address their instructor + 320 + 00:19:59,090 --> 00:20:00,350 + so no work at all. - 688 - 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:01,865 - broker, then they acted on it. + 321 + 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:07,820 + Okay. No. I preferred that + American because I know - 689 - 00:30:01,865 --> 00:30:04,625 - They reportedly would - acknowledge next year, + 322 + 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:12,545 + too many people in + the community and - 690 - 00:30:04,625 --> 00:30:06,110 - and they appointed a committee. + 323 + 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,690 + I don't want to + involve that because - 691 - 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:11,915 - Dr. Robert Earl was on it and - some of the high efficient, + 324 + 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:17,975 + of the confidential Sure. - 692 - 00:30:11,915 --> 00:30:14,599 - prominent laymen, as well - as some of the pasture, + 325 + 00:20:17,975 --> 00:20:21,065 + And the problem with + communication or whatever. - 693 - 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,865 - that they should - do something about + 326 + 00:20:21,065 --> 00:20:22,940 + So I write a little bit. - 694 - 00:30:16,865 --> 00:30:20,960 - or inaugurating an academy, + 327 + 00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:25,775 + When they put me in + the job, they asked, - 695 - 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,735 - creating an academy where - young people could come. + 328 + 00:20:25,775 --> 00:20:27,950 + I didn't have a chance + to choose that, - 696 - 00:30:23,735 --> 00:30:26,060 - Now, hundreds, a deed - for the academy. + 329 + 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:29,960 + but they couldn't live up + at their mark on clients, - 697 - 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:27,890 - Well, there were several needs. + 330 + 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,010 + so I decided to stay. - 698 - 00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:31,579 - A good many of + 331 + 00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:32,180 + I didn't bow to let - 699 - 00:30:31,579 --> 00:30:32,749 - our churches where in the country + 332 + 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:41,930 + each unit would or - 700 - 00:30:32,749 --> 00:30:34,370 - and didn't have a - high school there. + 333 + 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,120 + are there things that + that concern you - 701 - 00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:35,989 - You'd have to go - to town anyway in + 334 + 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,365 + or or problems that that you are. - 702 - 00:30:35,989 --> 00:30:37,775 - board to go to high school + 335 + 00:20:48,365 --> 00:20:51,350 + Face having been in + the United States, - 703 - 00:30:37,775 --> 00:30:40,729 - and show it be + 336 + 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,480 + particularly Minnesota + for the past few years. - 704 - 00:30:40,729 --> 00:30:41,899 - just the waveform to go to + 337 + 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 + Are there are there are + issues that that concern - 705 - 00:30:41,899 --> 00:30:43,774 - St. Paul and go to the academy, + 338 + 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,380 + you are or you do think - 706 - 00:30:43,774 --> 00:30:45,590 - you'd have to go home anyway. + 339 + 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:59,120 + about it a fair + amount in terms of, - 707 - 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:47,014 - And then another thing, + 340 + 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,565 + of your transition into - 708 - 00:30:47,014 --> 00:30:48,679 - they would have that - Christian Fellowship + 341 + 00:21:01,565 --> 00:21:03,290 + US society and also - 709 - 00:30:48,679 --> 00:30:50,615 - and a kind of Christian training. + 342 + 00:21:03,290 --> 00:21:05,630 + perhaps fellow Cambodians + sort of moved here. - 710 - 00:30:50,615 --> 00:30:52,819 - And basically for those who + 343 + 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:08,630 + Are there any kinds of + things that trouble you? - 711 - 00:30:52,819 --> 00:30:55,700 - felt the goddess called him - into Christian service. + 344 + 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:13,640 + My concern is for + Cambodian people, - 712 - 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,010 - And so that thing went - through phi1 into + 345 + 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,375 + especially the family without - 713 - 00:30:58,010 --> 00:31:01,985 - Payne Avenue Church - in Kansas City. + 346 + 00:21:17,375 --> 00:21:21,350 + a single family, single pattern. - 714 - 00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:05,075 - In Kansas City, that was - they appointed a committee. + 347 + 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:27,200 + And also that moat + pendant and household. - 715 - 00:31:05,075 --> 00:31:07,159 - That committee, I - think Robert Urbis, + 348 + 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:34,774 + Most of Cambodian that came + to United State during ARE. - 716 - 00:31:07,159 --> 00:31:08,705 - chairman. I'm not sure. + 349 + 00:21:34,774 --> 00:21:38,460 + So now most of them, - 717 - 00:31:08,705 --> 00:31:10,910 - And I'm sure Dr. - Ekstrom was on it. + 350 + 00:21:38,650 --> 00:21:47,465 + they don't have a lot our + education background, - 718 - 00:31:10,910 --> 00:31:13,565 - Pastured eggs from those - days you'd want to migrate. + 351 + 00:21:47,465 --> 00:21:50,105 + and most of them farmer - 719 - 00:31:13,565 --> 00:31:17,119 - Pastures are kept - him at 12pm. And + 352 + 00:21:50,105 --> 00:21:54,230 + or a citizen that + live in the city, - 720 - 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760 - they appointed a - committee and that + 353 + 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:57,920 + but they did not have + a good background - 721 - 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,725 - committee acted ones that year, + 354 + 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:05,300 + about the skill that + fit in this society. - 722 - 00:31:21,725 --> 00:31:25,040 - 1905 to started Oh, yes. + 355 + 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,980 + And they have a lot of + problem to adjusted. - 723 - 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,360 - The resolution. Read it. + 356 + 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,905 + But for myself that I can speak, - 724 - 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,234 - They should call Dr. chord + 357 + 00:22:12,905 --> 00:22:16,100 + I cannot just faster than them. - 725 - 00:31:28,234 --> 00:31:30,785 - to be first-principle - to the academy. + 358 + 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:21,080 + And the people that they know + nothing about the language, - 726 - 00:31:30,785 --> 00:31:32,990 - I haven't mentioned - Dr. guard before, + 359 + 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,610 + they tend to be really + hard to adjust them. - 727 - 00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:35,449 - but he was a wonderful - scholar and he was a + 360 + 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:28,970 + And the family that - 728 - 00:31:35,449 --> 00:31:38,480 - wonderful Christian and his - life with beautiful doctor. + 361 + 00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:35,030 + some people that cannot read + or write their own language, - 729 - 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,329 - I understand that dr. - Gordy's just like a pawn, + 362 + 00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:39,080 + as it's rarely frosted + them for them to learn - 730 - 00:31:41,329 --> 00:31:43,430 - such a beautiful personality. + 363 + 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,210 + the other Langley because - 731 - 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:45,350 - What Dr. Gore came from Sweden to + 364 + 00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:43,535 + they all know they don't + know how to read and write. - 732 - 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:47,629 - move to New York to Brooklyn. + 365 + 00:22:43,535 --> 00:22:45,620 + They know how to + speed communication, - 733 - 00:31:47,629 --> 00:31:49,699 - >> Professor hit Dean and - we'd later profession + 366 + 00:22:45,620 --> 00:22:47,390 + but for reading and writing, - 734 - 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,830 - the Seminary. He - wished pasture there. + 367 + 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:50,990 + it's really hard and + it made them more - 735 - 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:55,190 - They had great, reliable - Dr. Gore was defined clean. + 368 + 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:55,580 + harder than anybody + that can speak, read, - 736 - 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:57,710 - Yen man. I don't know what - happened to his father. + 369 + 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,860 + and write their + own name and says, - 737 - 00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:59,569 - Never heard of him, - but but I guess she + 370 + 00:22:57,860 --> 00:22:59,330 + my concern is that - 738 - 00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:01,865 - had died early. Get - a wonderful mother. + 371 + 00:22:59,330 --> 00:23:03,290 + those people are really + hard to adjust to this, + + 372 + 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:08,540 + this society and that the state. - 739 - 00:32:01,865 --> 00:32:05,164 - And he was wonderfully converted + 373 + 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:11,030 + They gobble men and this - 740 - 00:32:05,164 --> 00:32:10,235 - and he fed lead into Christian - to Christian ministry. + 374 + 00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:14,430 + they should understand + and it should help them. - 741 - 00:32:10,235 --> 00:32:13,380 - He was small enough stature, + 375 + 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,550 + Do you think, what do you + think would be the best, - 742 - 00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:18,334 - very beautiful, rich hair, + 376 + 00:23:19,550 --> 00:23:22,100 + best approach to that education? - 743 - 00:32:18,334 --> 00:32:20,750 - black hair, and everything + 377 + 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:27,080 + Or what do you - 744 - 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:22,400 - about him is Dr. - Lander's headers. + 378 + 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,730 + think would work in terms - 745 - 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,629 - There's like a poem, + 379 + 00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:31,625 + of perhaps helping + them adjust better? - 746 - 00:32:23,629 --> 00:32:28,050 - perfect gentleman in every - way and a brilliant scholar. + 380 + 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:34,294 + They need a lot of support. - 747 - 00:32:31,689 --> 00:32:34,164 - >> I want to say something - back here again if I + 381 + 00:23:34,294 --> 00:23:38,284 + Especially the families support, - 748 - 00:32:34,164 --> 00:32:36,290 - get back to well, + 382 + 00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:42,830 + because they used to live in - 749 - 00:32:36,290 --> 00:32:38,330 - they in the resolution, + 383 + 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:45,740 + the the period of time - 750 - 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:41,675 - they said codec to guard - to be the first-principle. + 384 + 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:49,835 + that have a lot of + crisis that need to Y. - 751 - 00:32:41,675 --> 00:32:43,670 - Alright? Neither - were on bare ground. + 385 + 00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:53,870 + And also that they + have a horrible time. - 752 - 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:45,635 - Where going to meet what - I'm going to started. + 386 + 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:57,800 + That they never, they + cannot forget about that. - 753 - 00:32:45,635 --> 00:32:47,240 - What else are they going to do? + 387 + 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 + Because of the the life - 754 - 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,260 - Or they had some good men. + 388 + 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,025 + that they have gone through + during the tomorrows, - 755 - 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:50,929 - And that committee - anyway they began to + 389 + 00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:11,360 + make them some people + that almost lost memory. - 756 - 00:32:50,929 --> 00:32:55,250 - announce at the academy - would start then follow 195, + 390 + 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:17,420 + They become so much The Press. - 757 - 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,920 - fall of 195 and the helium Church + 391 + 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:20,900 + But they don't know + how to speak out. - 758 - 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,060 - Minneapolis from my brother had + 392 + 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:24,755 + They don't know how + to tell the ADA and - 759 - 00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:00,560 - been for more than 50 years, + 393 + 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:30,155 + our culture people nothing + one to share their problem, - 760 - 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,539 - essentially could precipitate - it and still a leader + 394 + 00:24:30,155 --> 00:24:35,930 + to be either unless they trust + Azariah, close relative. - 761 - 00:33:02,539 --> 00:33:05,449 - there in his pad with, - well, anyway, they got, + 395 + 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:39,695 + If you are working, + tried to help them. - 762 - 00:33:05,449 --> 00:33:09,004 - they got permission to have - this Google in church, + 396 + 00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:40,925 + If they don't know you, - 763 - 00:33:09,004 --> 00:33:11,750 - in Sunday School room, - some Bayesians, so on + 397 + 00:24:40,925 --> 00:24:42,920 + they don't want to + share any idea or - 764 - 00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:13,189 - And of course, they started with + 398 + 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,095 + they don't want to share + any problem with you. - 765 - 00:33:13,189 --> 00:33:15,590 - two students like the other did, + 399 + 00:24:45,095 --> 00:24:47,015 + So you cannot help them. - 766 - 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:17,870 - because the other day and anyway, + 400 + 00:24:47,015 --> 00:24:49,820 + But if they understand + the culture, - 767 - 00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:19,955 - the first graduation, I - had just two Student. + 401 + 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:51,410 + they understand a problem, - 768 - 00:33:19,955 --> 00:33:22,460 - One went to the ministry + 402 + 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:53,240 + trying to help them. - 769 - 00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:24,005 - and the other went - back to farming. + 403 + 00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,750 + Sometime people offer the + problem so we can help them. - 770 - 00:33:24,005 --> 00:33:25,880 - And I've always thought - of those two as + 404 + 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,900 + And the other thing - 771 - 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,289 - representing the kinda work + 405 + 00:25:06,490 --> 00:25:11,945 + right now is that the + kid growing up here, - 772 - 00:33:27,289 --> 00:33:28,940 - that this group doing right here. + 406 + 00:25:11,945 --> 00:25:15,815 + they'd learn the lay at + faster than the parent. - 773 - 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,114 - Now some are going - to be layman here, + 407 + 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:20,060 + And then to have a + different point of view, - 774 - 00:33:31,114 --> 00:33:32,885 - you're going to be - Christian layman. + 408 + 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,480 + some care did grow up in + the cam when he came here. - 775 - 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:35,149 - Some of you who are - students here and some are + 409 + 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,840 + They don't know about the + Cambodia culture at all. - 776 - 00:33:35,149 --> 00:33:37,250 - going at the ministry - and the college, + 410 + 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,295 + And then the chi + Laika have a problem - 777 - 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,784 - especially ministers - to both kind we need, + 411 + 00:25:31,295 --> 00:25:36,770 + between parents and children + and between because the kid, - 778 - 00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:41,285 - we need lame and knowledge more + 412 + 00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:38,990 + when they live in home, - 779 - 00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:42,530 - Christian than we administer. + 413 + 00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:40,490 + depend on one num to be - 780 - 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:45,515 - Sometimes we think, well - anyway, the first graduate, + 414 + 00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:44,735 + Cambodian to discipline them + the way that they work. - 781 - 00:33:45,515 --> 00:33:47,239 - but they were there - three years before they + 415 + 00:25:44,735 --> 00:25:46,160 + Well when they go to school, - 782 - 00:33:47,239 --> 00:33:51,169 - graduate and they fused to, + 416 + 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,115 + they have another law + that they must follow. - 783 - 00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:52,760 - well, they said We need a whole, + 417 + 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,220 + There must obey + that, this society. - 784 - 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,230 - we need a home of our own. + 418 + 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:54,515 + And then when they go back + to school, Chi legged, - 785 - 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:56,345 - Shall we do? Where shall we go? + 419 + 00:25:54,515 --> 00:25:58,235 + two different society for + them that it's hard to her. - 786 - 00:33:56,345 --> 00:33:58,879 - Rather to men and - Payne Avenue Church, + 420 + 00:25:58,235 --> 00:25:59,990 + So it essay, we need to have - 787 - 00:33:58,879 --> 00:34:00,800 - Saint Paul one gave + 421 + 00:25:59,990 --> 00:26:02,900 + some people that understand + a problem tried to - 788 - 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,529 - $5 thousand to start + 422 + 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:07,040 + help him to adjusted by + offering my education - 789 - 00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:06,350 - the building of an - academy. It cost eight. + 423 + 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,465 + to them or some kind acre + or training to them, - 790 - 00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:09,590 - Finally, I guess the - other one was a builder. + 424 + 00:26:11,465 --> 00:26:15,140 + trying to know made them + and wild with the society, - 791 - 00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:12,095 - He put it up he was - contracted to put it up. + 425 + 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,720 + become a productive citizen. - 792 - 00:34:12,095 --> 00:34:13,610 - Public beach company too. + 426 + 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,870 + How do you feel that, - 793 - 00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:15,980 - And so that's on - character and St. Anthony + 427 + 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:25,420 + that you've worked on a lot of - 794 - 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:18,859 - part Carter Avenue - and comb avenue, + 428 + 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:30,160 + the in terms of what you + went through in Cambodia, - 795 - 00:34:18,859 --> 00:34:20,840 - that building is still there + 429 + 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,710 + Do you feel that you've + had opportunities to, - 796 - 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,860 - and it was a wonderful time - when they moved into that + 430 + 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:34,480 + to address that the, - 797 - 00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:26,884 - and shed dished out - when building I want to + 431 + 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,465 + the experience and work + through all of that yourself. - 798 - 00:34:26,884 --> 00:34:29,630 - describe that building - upstairs where + 432 + 00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:39,925 + You feel like you. I think so. - 799 - 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:32,659 - 313 small rooms and + 433 + 00:26:39,925 --> 00:26:45,610 + Because when you go to you + can see a lot of thing. - 800 - 00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:36,020 - then a washroom at the - end, bathroom or so on. + 434 + 00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:49,495 + Most of I feel that I - 801 - 00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:40,144 - And those rooms in each one - of those rooms to student, + 435 + 00:26:49,495 --> 00:26:52,840 + know a lot of thing + in this country, - 802 - 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:41,750 - two boys would stay. + 436 + 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,480 + mod and I knew in my hand. - 803 - 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:45,110 - And they used to say that - they couldn't couldn't chain. + 437 + 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,735 + And tell me late + the government or - 804 - 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,030 - They had to go outside - to change their minds. + 438 + 00:26:58,735 --> 00:27:04,325 + the system how to + process in this society. - 805 - 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:49,820 - You heard so small, + 439 + 00:27:04,325 --> 00:27:06,710 + Because when I was in Cambodia, - 806 - 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:51,215 - but there's a bit there and + 440 + 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,990 + I didn't know about the Congress. - 807 - 00:34:51,215 --> 00:34:53,420 - maybe a couple little - desk or something. + 441 + 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:11,285 + How many Congress + in Cambodia Hub, - 808 - 00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:57,650 - And that little building - was very efficient. + 442 + 00:27:11,285 --> 00:27:12,940 + how the legislature work, - 809 - 00:34:57,650 --> 00:35:00,290 - Bethel Academy became famous - all around the neighborhood. + 443 + 00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:14,540 + something like that because in - 810 - 00:35:00,290 --> 00:35:02,989 - Their student who refined to and + 444 + 00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:16,805 + school they never + teach you to learn. - 811 - 00:35:02,989 --> 00:35:05,795 - then on the first floor over - three recitation rooms. + 445 + 00:27:16,805 --> 00:27:22,295 + They just gave you all these + samurai general literature, - 812 - 00:35:05,795 --> 00:35:07,909 - And then they're reading - room and then the kind of + 446 + 00:27:22,295 --> 00:27:25,805 + little bit math, a little + bit, some like that. - 813 - 00:35:07,909 --> 00:35:10,730 - private office for the - for the principal. + 447 + 00:27:25,805 --> 00:27:30,140 + Unless you get into + the university, - 814 - 00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:18,240 - And then the basement was a - kitchen and a dining room and + 448 + 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:35,630 + you trying to be a doctor + or a professor or whatever. - 815 - 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,030 - washroom and what else? + 449 + 00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:36,740 + And then you can know - 816 - 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:27,499 - Basement. They had a - steward, the body club, + 450 + 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:39,320 + only the brand that + you go and needs. - 817 - 00:35:27,499 --> 00:35:29,449 - and they would go up - the country around, + 451 + 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,985 + No general knowledge + like this society. - 818 - 00:35:29,449 --> 00:35:31,070 - I Santa Cambridge around and get + 452 + 00:27:43,985 --> 00:27:49,400 + So is people like myself + that want to learn more, - 819 - 00:35:31,070 --> 00:35:33,590 - things for nothing - from the machine up. + 453 + 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,734 + want to have a better + understanding. - 820 - 00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,885 - Things that are potatoes - and all of that. + 454 + 00:27:53,734 --> 00:27:56,990 + English can communicate + with the people here. - 821 - 00:35:35,885 --> 00:35:37,910 - And I remember one year + 455 + 00:27:56,990 --> 00:28:00,050 + So we have a better chance to - 822 - 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:40,580 - and they run the - boarding time themself. + 456 + 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:03,230 + adjust to live in this society. - 823 - 00:35:40,580 --> 00:35:46,160 - I remember one year they - meals average $0.11 a meal. + 457 + 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:07,730 + So people that I think the + problem is the communication. - 824 - 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,230 - There's the good old - days, $0.11 a meal. + 458 + 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:09,680 + If the people can + learn the language - 825 - 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:49,490 - And they've got some for nothing. + 459 + 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,290 + faster so they can adjust + whatever they won. - 826 - 00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:55,295 - And then they they - paid $10 a month. + 460 + 00:28:14,350 --> 00:28:19,230 + Okay. Stu law. 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I English. + 13 + 00:01:06,215 --> 00:01:08,135 + And you go to sleep. - 839 - 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:34,760 - Nice College couple. - Washington University. + 14 + 00:01:08,135 --> 00:01:12,055 + Alvin dream about + during the time. - 840 - 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,109 - Kathy I with + 15 + 00:01:12,055 --> 00:01:16,960 + Sometime I saw blade to Meroe, - 841 - 00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:38,464 - University of Minnesota a - great deal of the time. + 16 + 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,020 + are the people with + the leader to come - 842 - 00:36:38,464 --> 00:36:40,205 - >> And then elsewhere too. + 17 + 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:23,785 + out or the shoulder that + trying to catch me, - 843 - 00:36:40,205 --> 00:36:42,680 - Well, anyway, the - students repeatedly, + 18 + 00:01:23,785 --> 00:01:25,750 + wanted to kill me something. - 844 - 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,269 - there were 18 students - than they were + 19 + 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:31,570 + And after terrible + nightmare light - 845 - 00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:47,120 - 22 and then there - were 39. 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So out of my mind, - 847 - 00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:55,280 - my brother guard - resigned in 1914. + 22 + 00:01:38,905 --> 00:01:46,405 + you're thinking I start to + trying to suppress them down, - 848 - 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,229 - He was there from + 23 + 00:01:46,405 --> 00:01:48,520 + tried to forget about that. - 849 - 00:36:57,229 --> 00:37:00,170 - 195 to nine that's nine years, - if that if that's right. + 24 + 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,495 + Trying to think about the + future instead of the path. - 850 - 00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:02,240 - But you see, he had - prepared for the ministry. + 25 + 00:01:52,495 --> 00:01:56,870 + And I don't want to Aldo dream. - 851 - 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,715 - He had studied gotta - ductus Luther Seminary. + 26 + 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:59,785 + Come back again in my mind. - 852 - 00:37:04,715 --> 00:37:07,175 - And he studied another colleague, - distinguished scholar. + 27 + 00:01:59,785 --> 00:02:02,829 + This is just trying to think + everything in the future. - 853 - 00:37:07,175 --> 00:37:08,870 - He was brilliant and + 28 + 00:02:02,829 --> 00:02:04,690 + What most of the + time when they have - 854 - 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:10,700 - he felt that he trained - for the pasture it + 29 + 00:02:04,690 --> 00:02:07,930 + that dream late that + icon sleep RNA. - 855 - 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,079 - and and not to be pens but + 30 + 00:02:07,930 --> 00:02:14,560 + And trying to take like a + medicine to may get headache, - 856 - 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,990 - an academy though he - didn't paperwork there. + 31 + 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,930 + take medicine so they can sleep. - 857 - 00:37:14,990 --> 00:37:17,570 - Nobody was there. 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That's that's - 878 - 00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:11,900 - He just couldn't get over - their opposition to a stain. + 53 + 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,740 + all of the questions I + have for now. 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He loved + 2 + 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,470 + come with me through + these gates to - 880 - 00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:15,260 - administrate and they loved him. + 3 + 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:16,780 + a beautiful all new canvas, - 881 - 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,549 - We came to the chip Greg, + 4 + 00:00:16,780 --> 00:00:18,760 + indeed a proper setting for - 882 - 00:38:16,549 --> 00:38:19,700 - he was and one woman who - was pasture and weird + 5 + 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,080 + the Christian liberal arts - 883 - 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,910 - and I was there and - one woman said to me, + 6 + 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,090 + and conservative + theological education. - 884 - 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:24,635 - oh, you should have. - You should have been. + 7 + 00:00:23,730 --> 00:00:27,145 + Looking at our campus + from the Southeast, + + 8 + 00:00:27,145 --> 00:00:30,460 + we see the college and seminary + located in the beautiful, - 885 - 00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:27,020 - In those days, it was - Dr. gourd pastor. + 9 + 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:33,340 + rolling wooded hills + beside lake Valentine. - 886 - 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:28,610 - If it's just a wonderful she kept + 10 + 00:00:33,340 --> 00:00:37,750 + This is just five miles + north of our old campus. - 887 - 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,320 - saying just so wonderful person, + 11 + 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:42,015 + Here the emphasis is on + the seminary complex - 888 - 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,910 - wonderfully, she could say + 12 + 00:00:42,015 --> 00:00:46,320 + campus, as it appears + from the west. - 889 - 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:35,015 - the word so wonderful - when gardeners here. + 13 + 00:00:46,450 --> 00:00:48,740 + This area will someday be - 890 - 00:38:35,015 --> 00:38:37,520 - When I was called away - from that to be principal, + 14 + 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:52,200 + occupied by the + administration building. - 891 - 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,694 - to be dean of the seminary that + 15 + 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,280 + Bethel probably boasts one of - 892 - 00:38:39,694 --> 00:38:42,215 - others have to we're going - to be got going that way. + 16 + 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,270 + the most beautiful campus + settings in the country. - 893 - 00:38:42,215 --> 00:38:44,735 - But to, Well then, + 17 + 00:00:59,270 --> 00:01:02,000 + Each of the college + buildings is connected with - 894 - 00:38:44,735 --> 00:38:48,350 - now then the two schools united. + 18 + 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,805 + the other building by a + weatherproof walkway, - 895 - 00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:50,614 - The seminary in Chicago, + 19 + 00:01:04,805 --> 00:01:06,875 + both above and below ground. - 896 - 00:38:50,614 --> 00:38:53,885 - which move by the January - Conference to St. Paul + 20 + 00:01:06,875 --> 00:01:08,840 + Hi, I'm sure you will + agree if you walk - 897 - 00:38:53,885 --> 00:38:58,190 - and the academy and - disseminate where to unite. + 21 + 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,060 + between the buildings + on the Old Campus, - 898 - 00:38:58,190 --> 00:39:01,125 - They required only academy - education to enter it. + 22 + 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:14,210 + this indeed is a worthy edition. - 899 - 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:03,470 - In fact, they took them at - first from the eighth grade. + 23 + 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:16,400 + We look at the campus now from - 900 - 00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:04,850 - It came from Sweden. + 24 + 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,105 + the east with the new + townhouses and view. - 901 - 00:39:04,850 --> 00:39:07,940 - And they didn't require - much if they knew the Lord + 25 + 00:01:20,105 --> 00:01:22,550 + This is the field of conflict for - 902 - 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:09,800 - and wanted to give - me subduing him and + 26 + 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:25,190 + football, baseball, and soccer - 903 - 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 - had some ability and - there were good pasture, + 27 + 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:28,595 + athletics out + important at Bethel. - 904 - 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,415 - say preach a gospel. + 28 + 00:01:28,595 --> 00:01:31,100 + Our new dorms consist of - 905 - 00:39:13,415 --> 00:39:15,560 - And so Guard resigned in + 29 + 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,725 + 14 units and two + clusters of seven. - 906 - 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,880 - 1914 and went to + 30 + 00:01:33,725 --> 00:01:37,580 + We can house 2221 unit 234, - 907 - 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,890 - New York as pasture - unto the church at him. + 31 + 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:41,210 + and the other a total of 456. - 908 - 00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:23,250 - And then he was called back - as Dean later and so on. + 32 + 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:43,760 + And they are all filled with - 909 - 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,189 - Now let me close with something + 33 + 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,940 + the housing on the Old + Campus filled as well. - 910 - 00:39:28,189 --> 00:39:30,800 - else about ingrain digest - slipped my mind him talking. + 34 + 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:50,570 + Each apartment + contains six students. - 911 - 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,564 - So Patch eight Green was - a brilliant scholar, + 35 + 00:01:50,570 --> 00:01:53,960 + There is a health center and + recreation room available in - 912 - 00:39:34,564 --> 00:39:37,100 - he was a scientific mind. + 36 + 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,500 + this complex and all the + other complexes as well. - 913 - 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,680 - He traveled much as a saver. + 37 + 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:00,320 + The total enrollment in + this year will run between - 914 - 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,770 - And it also says in his - book, and I think I'm right, + 38 + 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:06,575 + 12851300 in the college in + about 240 in the seminary. - 915 - 00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:46,475 - that he knew 32 - languages somewhat, + 39 + 00:02:06,575 --> 00:02:09,110 + This was the first dormitory to - 916 - 00:39:46,475 --> 00:39:49,805 - but he could speak - fluently 16 languages. + 40 + 00:02:09,110 --> 00:02:11,060 + have been constructed + on the new campus. - 917 - 00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:51,994 - Now there's a mind for you, + 41 + 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:14,000 + It holds 120 students. - 918 - 00:39:51,994 --> 00:39:55,040 - and I told you about the - commoners saying to him, + 42 + 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,430 + Here's located one of - 919 - 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,119 - the head of the navy said, + 43 + 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:19,595 + the most up-to-date libraries + in the state of Minnesota. - 920 - 00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,695 - you're, you're making a mistake. + 44 + 00:02:19,595 --> 00:02:21,980 + It is on two levels. - 921 - 00:39:57,695 --> 00:39:59,749 - You futures before you, + 45 + 00:02:21,980 --> 00:02:24,260 + Individual study units provide - 922 - 00:39:59,749 --> 00:40:02,210 - a glowing future, - all your ability. + 46 + 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:25,790 + privacy for tape recording, - 923 - 00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:03,560 - I have another call, sir. + 47 + 00:02:25,790 --> 00:02:27,320 + as well as other functions - 924 - 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,555 - Thank you. But I - have another call. + 48 + 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,420 + which will be difficult + to accomplish. - 925 - 00:40:05,555 --> 00:40:08,600 - And you've heard of - the Rosetta Stone. + 49 + 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:31,489 + In the main library, - 926 - 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,780 - That was another stone - like the Rosetta Stone. + 50 + 00:02:31,489 --> 00:02:34,070 + our students have access not only - 927 - 00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:13,340 - I forget what they call it. + 51 + 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:36,545 + to our 79 thousand volumes, - 928 - 00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:15,439 - And the scientists were + 52 + 00:02:36,545 --> 00:02:38,780 + but any consortium of + seven other colleges, - 929 - 00:40:15,439 --> 00:40:19,970 - just were not agreed on some - of the interpretation there. + 53 + 00:02:38,780 --> 00:02:41,194 + as well as the Hill library, - 930 - 00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:23,675 - And they heard of Dr. Adrian, + 54 + 00:02:41,194 --> 00:02:43,520 + they can reach a total of - 931 - 00:40:23,675 --> 00:40:27,559 - he had a miraculous mine + 55 + 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,130 + 3 million volumes within + two days of requests, - 932 - 00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:31,009 - he did had and just - think his body was, + 56 + 00:02:47,289 --> 00:02:49,730 + >> students have access to cast - 933 - 00:40:31,009 --> 00:40:33,365 - was, was strong and all - these troubles paying. + 57 + 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:53,705 + that duplicated photo + laboratory movie slide, - 934 - 00:40:33,365 --> 00:40:36,770 - And so they sent it - to Dr. Adrian for + 58 + 00:02:53,705 --> 00:02:55,385 + overhead projection equipment, - 935 - 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:38,810 - his interpretation and he + 59 + 00:02:55,385 --> 00:02:58,470 + as well as TV tape reproduction. - 936 - 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:41,510 - gave them his interpretation - and they accepted it. + 60 + 00:03:01,930 --> 00:03:05,030 + The Bethel Bain 70 - 937 - 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:44,570 - And they got together on they - took his they accepted it. + 61 + 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:08,970 + strong is under the direction + of Dr. Julius wedding - 938 - 00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:47,705 - Put that with no Hudson - Austin's book, I'm sure. + 62 + 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,100 + string students at + Bethel are part of - 939 - 00:40:47,705 --> 00:40:52,894 - So on this quantum - artists to yes, + 63 + 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:23,780 + the Minnesota Mining Orchestra - 940 - 00:40:52,894 --> 00:40:55,310 - he was an artist from you + 64 + 00:03:23,780 --> 00:03:26,370 + under Dr. Wendy girls direction. - 941 - 00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:58,070 - and that we've had - in the old seminary. + 65 + 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:39,800 + The women's choir, the + newest musical group, - 942 - 00:40:58,070 --> 00:40:59,510 - I don't have any here now. + 66 + 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,480 + is about 12 years old, - 943 - 00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:01,459 - Painting that he had - made that had been + 67 + 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,950 + and this year will feature - 944 - 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:04,790 - made and it can just do - that for recreation. + 68 + 00:03:42,950 --> 00:03:46,980 + 48 students under the + direction of Mary fall. - 945 - 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:06,800 - Edwin? Oh, yeah. + 69 + 00:03:57,370 --> 00:04:00,200 + The male chorus is + perhaps the oldest, - 946 - 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,025 - There are others that - are still in existence. + 70 + 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,850 + the battles musical groups, - 947 - 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:13,550 - Human persons up his paintings - though we have to push, + 71 + 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:04,910 + and it's under the capable + direction of c. Edward Thomas, - 948 - 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:15,245 - will be somewhere - around or maybe more. + 72 + 00:04:04,910 --> 00:04:07,220 + popular Midwestern + musician and professor - 949 - 00:41:15,245 --> 00:41:17,269 - Yes, there and I'm going to + 73 + 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:13,320 + at Bethel all grace. - 950 - 00:41:17,269 --> 00:41:19,910 - restore it and framed properly. + 74 + 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:22,520 + Dr. Robert burglar and + directs the college choir, - 951 - 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:21,830 - I was in a home in California + 75 + 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,980 + which will tour the + East Coast this year - 952 - 00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:23,750 - and staying as guest overnight. + 76 + 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:39,410 + on special occasions, + the quires or - 953 - 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,465 - And in Oakland, I - guess it was because + 77 + 00:04:39,410 --> 00:04:42,110 + combine with other students + to make a great festival. - 954 - 00:41:26,465 --> 00:41:28,399 - the church needs to be + 78 + 00:04:42,110 --> 00:04:44,390 + Choir here creature with - 955 - 00:41:28,399 --> 00:41:30,410 - there and he had a - painting issues. + 79 + 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:48,450 + a Minnesota Orchestra during + the spring Music Festival. - 956 - 00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:35,135 - Just painting was made by - a DC-10 said and I got it. + 80 + 00:04:58,599 --> 00:05:02,390 + >> The art department offers + exciting possibilities + + 81 + 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:07,590 + in painting, sculpture, ceramics. - 957 - 00:41:35,135 --> 00:41:38,629 - I think Peter when he said he'd + 82 + 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:10,280 + Instruction is given on - 958 - 00:41:38,629 --> 00:41:40,400 - been had it there and he didn't + 83 + 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:11,840 + a personal basis in - 959 - 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,170 - seem to need to try - anything like that. + 84 + 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,465 + an atmosphere of informality + and understanding. - 960 - 00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:44,660 - And he said could I thought - that could I buy that? + 85 + 00:05:14,465 --> 00:05:18,120 + Numerous art exhibits are + held during the year. - 961 - 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:48,620 - Dr. Edgar Paraview and - they'd go ahead and take it. + 86 + 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,895 + Bethel is noted for its + sound liberal arts program. - 962 - 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:51,559 - He says, I want anonymous - either with Hamas or whether it + 87 + 00:05:22,895 --> 00:05:24,500 + It is fully accredited by - 963 - 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:56,330 - touches up s'mores has gotten - so they're able to $5. + 88 + 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:26,540 + the North Central + Association of Colleges - 964 - 00:41:56,330 --> 00:41:58,190 - Just gave him the picture. + 89 + 00:05:26,540 --> 00:05:27,935 + and secondary schools. - 965 - 00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:59,960 - You see? Yes, it was an artist. + 90 + 00:05:27,935 --> 00:05:30,140 + And as the unqualified + recognition of - 966 - 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,700 - And what else can - you say about him? + 91 + 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,870 + the University of Minnesota is - 967 - 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,244 - That he was, he was, + 92 + 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:36,755 + one of the finest private + college labs in the area. - 968 - 00:42:03,244 --> 00:42:05,584 - he was a marvelous mine + 93 + 00:05:36,755 --> 00:05:39,290 + A good safety feature is - 969 - 00:42:05,584 --> 00:42:11,040 - >> and yet make like this - will start on the other side. + 94 + 00:05:39,290 --> 00:05:42,290 + the chemistry safety shower - 970 - 00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:22,979 - Yes, + 95 + 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:45,905 + with particular preparation + for eye protection. - 971 - 00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:41,969 - you see + 96 + 00:05:45,905 --> 00:05:48,320 + The study a biological function - 972 - 00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:01,669 - these + 97 + 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,825 + is a joy in this facility. - 973 - 00:44:01,669 --> 00:44:02,820 - two + 98 + 00:05:50,825 --> 00:05:54,560 + Physics receives at + proper due in this area. - 974 - 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:12,485 - verses + 99 + 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,825 + And other areas include + preparation for public education. - 975 - 00:44:12,485 --> 00:44:23,640 - on this side? + 100 + 00:05:59,825 --> 00:06:03,725 + Here is one of our student + teachers in action. - 976 - 00:44:59,770 --> 00:45:01,949 - Hi, + 101 + 00:06:03,725 --> 00:06:06,710 + Well, time fails. - 977 - 00:45:51,340 --> 00:45:53,730 - yes. - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:28:59 GMT -- request: - method: post - uri: http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/service/caption_captionasset/action/list - body: - encoding: UTF-8 - string: '{"filter":{"entryIdEqual":"0_k50pdtzh","objectType":"KalturaAssetFilter"},"ks":"","format":2,"clientTag":"ruby:22-07-27","apiVersion":"18.10.0","kalsig":"fe566ed366eb5aa28dae0755bd13a59d"}' - headers: - Accept: - - text/xml - User-Agent: - - rest-client/2.1.0 (darwin21 x86_64) ruby/3.1.2p20 - 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4 - 00:00:15,639 --> 00:00:18,519 - shifting gears in the - class and looking + 105 + 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:19,590 + social studies, Speech and Drama. - 5 - 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:22,149 - specific areas of the world and + 106 + 00:06:22,930 --> 00:06:26,435 + There are many ways for + self-expression battle. - 6 - 00:00:22,149 --> 00:00:25,300 - using them as case studies to - test some of the biblical, + 107 + 00:06:26,435 --> 00:06:28,475 + If you are sports minded, - 7 - 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:27,790 - theological and historical study + 108 + 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:31,310 + you can be an + enthusiastic spectator - 8 - 00:00:27,790 --> 00:00:29,440 - of mission that we have had up to + 109 + 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:35,525 + or a participant on + intramural are varsity level. - 9 - 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:36,430 - this in your textbook that came. + 110 + 00:06:35,525 --> 00:06:37,340 + Eight different sports are - 10 - 00:00:36,430 --> 00:00:40,075 - What you will be reading + 111 + 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:39,080 + conducted on the varsity level. - 11 - 00:00:40,075 --> 00:00:41,440 - in the tale about + 112 + 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,890 + And Bethel is a member the + tri-state athletic conference. - 12 - 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,880 - a variety of mission - areas in the world. + 113 + 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:47,675 + Perhaps your thing is + basketball or track. - 13 - 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,130 - Michael Caine has pulled together + 114 + 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:49,790 + The grunt and grow an artist have - 14 - 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:51,769 - the most recent - compilation of what is + 115 + 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:51,770 + their share of the limelight. - 15 - 00:00:51,769 --> 00:00:55,370 - going on in the world mission. + 116 + 00:06:51,770 --> 00:06:56,370 + Our football wires do and + die for good. Old Bethel. - 16 - 00:00:55,370 --> 00:00:57,800 - It's not exciting reading, + 117 + 00:06:56,770 --> 00:07:00,680 + Bethel has had championship + tennis squats. - 17 - 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,990 - except if you happen - to be particularly + 118 + 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,355 + Baseball brings honour + to AJ alma mater. - 18 - 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:02,945 - interested in one area - of the world or other. + 119 + 00:07:04,355 --> 00:07:06,740 + Now soccer has been - 19 - 00:01:02,945 --> 00:01:08,419 - There's a great - collection of data names, + 120 + 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:10,085 + successfully added to + the velocity program. - 20 - 00:01:08,419 --> 00:01:10,730 - dates, and so on. + 121 + 00:07:10,085 --> 00:07:13,160 + Our lovely young + ladies are in hand for - 21 - 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:13,099 - But you should be - familiar with what's + 122 + 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,930 + all major events to encourage - 22 - 00:01:13,099 --> 00:01:14,840 - going on around the world. + 123 + 00:07:14,930 --> 00:07:17,790 + both participants and spectators. + + 124 + 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:24,950 + A most important part + of the Bethel story is + + 125 + 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:26,480 + the contribution of the seminary + + 126 + 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,295 + to the Baptist + general conference, + + 127 + 00:07:28,295 --> 00:07:31,835 + as well as to all major + evangelical groups. + + 128 + 00:07:31,835 --> 00:07:33,710 + Since its inception, + + 129 + 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:35,840 + theological studies + at Bethel seminary + + 130 + 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,370 + had been set within the framework + + 131 + 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:40,230 + of historic evangelical theology. + + 132 + 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:43,010 + Particular emphasis has been + + 133 + 00:07:43,010 --> 00:07:45,020 + placed upon a + theology which gives + + 134 + 00:07:45,020 --> 00:07:49,505 + primacy to the Bible as the + source of Christian doctrine. + + 135 + 00:07:49,505 --> 00:07:51,890 + Major attention has been given to + + 136 + 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:54,875 + the foundational truths + of evangelical theology, + + 137 + 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:57,515 + such as the reliability + of the scriptures, + + 138 + 00:07:57,515 --> 00:07:59,195 + THE gravity of man, + + 139 + 00:07:59,195 --> 00:08:01,565 + the necessity of + divine redemption, + + 140 + 00:08:01,565 --> 00:08:03,590 + personal regeneration, + + 141 + 00:08:03,590 --> 00:08:05,525 + the resurrection of believers, + + 142 + 00:08:05,525 --> 00:08:07,460 + and the imminent + visible return of + + 143 + 00:08:07,460 --> 00:08:09,230 + Jesus Christ, our Lord. + + 144 + 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:11,930 + And say, Dr. Gordon Johnson + + 145 + 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:14,090 + announced this year + that Bethel graduated + + 146 + 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:16,910 + 55 seniors and is currently + + 147 + 00:08:16,910 --> 00:08:17,990 + enrolling between - 23 - 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,330 - And cane fills in all - the gaps which we would + 148 + 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:21,240 + two hundred and forty and two + hundred and fifty students. - 24 - 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:20,840 - possibly be able to - capture here in class. + 149 + 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:25,775 + Bethel is far more + than its buildings. - 25 - 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,384 - And I encourage you - to read that and + 150 + 00:08:25,775 --> 00:08:29,705 + Bethel is more than superior + academic achievement. - 26 - 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:26,944 - read it carefully because + 151 + 00:08:29,705 --> 00:08:33,350 + Bethel is even bigger than + the all important graduation - 27 - 00:01:26,944 --> 00:01:29,120 - for your own education, + 152 + 00:08:33,350 --> 00:08:39,950 + on Bethel is bigger than + any personal achievement. - 28 - 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,649 - ought to be aware of what + 153 + 00:08:39,950 --> 00:08:41,930 + As important as it is, - 29 - 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:34,055 - the Christian church is - doing throughout the world. + 154 + 00:08:41,930 --> 00:08:45,799 + Bethel is a corporate + opportunity to grow with others - 30 - 00:01:34,055 --> 00:01:35,360 - Not only in terms of + 155 + 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:49,080 + >> in spiritual + outreach and develop. - 31 - 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,879 - missionaries that we - sent from America, + 156 + 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:53,315 + Although chapel is not + required at Bethel, - 32 - 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:39,500 - but in terms of many of + 157 + 00:08:53,315 --> 00:08:56,030 + it is most significant + that most of - 33 - 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,929 - the indigenous - movements and so on, + 158 + 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:59,610 + the student body unites + each day for worship. - 34 - 00:01:41,929 --> 00:01:44,840 - around the world are - some exciting stories of + 159 + 00:08:59,740 --> 00:09:02,690 + Time to time, the + entire student body, - 35 - 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,850 - what is happening - in the Church of + 160 + 00:09:02,690 --> 00:09:03,920 + both seminary in college, - 36 - 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:49,370 - Jesus Christ in many - areas of the world. + 161 + 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,950 + meet outdoors in a great + natural ampitheater. - 37 - 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:51,530 - And I'm a little frightened by + 162 + 00:09:08,050 --> 00:09:12,260 + Jerry Healy shares with + us student testimonies. - 38 - 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:54,200 - the present trend - within our own country, + 163 + 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:14,790 + Now from our campus - 39 - 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,915 - particularly among the - younger generations. + 164 + 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,010 + is a Christian - 40 - 00:01:56,915 --> 00:02:00,049 - Now kind of Neil, - isolationism in America, + 165 + 00:09:28,010 --> 00:09:30,815 + arts colleague, James + Theological Seminary - 41 - 00:02:00,049 --> 00:02:02,329 - which subtracts us from + 166 + 00:09:30,815 --> 00:09:34,745 + dedicated to the development + of a strong people, - 42 - 00:02:02,329 --> 00:02:06,395 - our involvement are places - in the world, Latin America. + 167 + 00:09:34,745 --> 00:09:39,260 + fully matures, sensitive, + and inner directed. - 43 - 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:09,169 - We see it in our foreign policy + 168 + 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:41,885 + A people continually growing - 44 - 00:02:09,169 --> 00:02:13,670 - of the Cries about arc one - policy from groups in America. + 169 + 00:09:41,885 --> 00:09:45,185 + toward the model of Jesus Christ. - 45 - 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:17,345 - And many of these voices - are the voices of beyond. + 170 + 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:49,070 + I've only been at Beth + and I think the thing - 46 - 00:02:17,345 --> 00:02:19,940 - I hope that you - aren't captivated, + 171 + 00:09:49,070 --> 00:09:52,610 + that impresses me the most + was the Christian community. - 47 - 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:23,990 - at least in terms of your - Christian outlook by this neil, + 172 + 00:09:52,610 --> 00:09:56,360 + Yes, I think it's so + important to integrate - 48 - 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:29,975 - isolationism, exciting things - going on in the world. + 173 + 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,290 + academic and special thanks - 49 - 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:32,660 - Are not those going - on in America? + 174 + 00:10:00,290 --> 00:10:05,255 + to the thing I most crazy about, - 50 - 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:35,180 - Many things in other - parts of the world. + 175 + 00:10:05,255 --> 00:10:07,520 + about FAFSA is that - 51 - 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:36,935 - And I want you to be - familiar with those. + 176 + 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,935 + it's been sorry about + the whole person. - 52 - 00:02:36,935 --> 00:02:39,905 - That's the reason - for your reading? + 177 + 00:10:09,935 --> 00:10:14,195 + Academic or intellectual + or spiritual Sosa. - 53 - 00:02:39,905 --> 00:02:44,690 - K? I'm well aware from - my own reading it + 178 + 00:10:14,195 --> 00:10:15,590 + But watching such that I can have - 54 - 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:48,589 - came that in some instances + 179 + 00:10:15,590 --> 00:10:17,165 + a relationship between faculty. - 55 - 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:51,539 - not going to be heavily - stimulate others. You, well, + 180 + 00:10:17,165 --> 00:10:20,495 + Ostinato festivals are really - 56 - 00:02:51,539 --> 00:02:55,315 - I want you to read it unless - in class we are going + 181 + 00:10:20,495 --> 00:10:23,395 + sincere and they really + want to be loved. - 57 - 00:02:55,315 --> 00:02:58,974 - to be zeroing in on a series + 182 + 00:10:23,395 --> 00:10:27,785 + People town opening my mind - 58 - 00:02:58,974 --> 00:03:04,900 - of particular areas - of the world in + 183 + 00:10:27,785 --> 00:10:31,940 + to expand on almost any + broad thing that I want to. - 59 - 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:07,569 - an attempt to see in a case study + 184 + 00:10:31,940 --> 00:10:34,365 + Education I'm getting + here is type. - 60 - 00:03:07,569 --> 00:03:11,530 - some of the larger implications - of mission study itself. + 185 + 00:10:34,365 --> 00:10:35,990 + And that I think has - 61 - 00:03:11,530 --> 00:03:14,620 - For example, this time Friday, + 186 + 00:10:35,990 --> 00:10:38,450 + prepared me for the + direction I'm going. - 62 - 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:19,165 - I hope to look at one or - two specific areas in Asia. + 187 + 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:41,585 + I think it's given us a + quality education advisor, - 63 - 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:22,659 - Next Wednesday, I - wanted to do the same + 188 + 00:10:41,585 --> 00:10:43,280 + confidence learning, - 64 - 00:03:22,659 --> 00:03:26,725 - with one or two particular - countries in Africa. + 189 + 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,990 + part of that community + experience I - 65 - 00:03:26,725 --> 00:03:29,980 - That following Friday, I've + 190 + 00:10:44,990 --> 00:10:46,670 + see as it's trying to find - 66 - 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:34,229 - invited Charlie D1, - Chippewa Indian + 191 + 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:48,500 + a way to relate + what we're learning - 67 - 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:36,769 - To come to focus in on + 192 + 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,360 + in our classes to our + Christian experience. - 68 - 00:03:36,769 --> 00:03:40,579 - mission the Christian church - within the Indian community, + 193 + 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:58,265 + >> But what about Bethel? - 69 - 00:03:40,579 --> 00:03:42,680 - particularly here in Minnesota. + 194 + 00:10:58,265 --> 00:11:01,625 + In a day when colleges are + closing all over the nation, - 70 - 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,769 - Charlie d1, if an Indian - himself, as I've mentioned, + 195 + 00:11:01,625 --> 00:11:04,820 + when enrollments are + falling off at seminaries. - 71 - 00:03:45,769 --> 00:03:48,110 - and he's been acquainted with + 196 + 00:11:04,820 --> 00:11:08,640 + What about Bethel, Dr. Lundquist? - 72 - 00:03:48,110 --> 00:03:50,749 - the activities of the - American Indian Movement, + 197 + 00:11:09,730 --> 00:11:12,800 + I have just begun my 20th year as - 73 - 00:03:50,749 --> 00:03:52,760 - has been involved with - that in the past. + 198 + 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,320 + president of Bethel + College in seminary. - 74 - 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,309 - Now, working on the health - needs of the Indians + 199 + 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,780 + And I want to say that + from the perspective - 75 - 00:03:55,309 --> 00:03:59,280 - in Minneapolis is - a Christian man. + 200 + 00:11:17,780 --> 00:11:20,690 + of almost two decades + in this office, - 76 - 00:04:01,059 --> 00:04:03,770 - >> Okay, I think we're all set. + 201 + 00:11:20,690 --> 00:11:22,790 + that the work of + leading our college - 77 - 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:11,375 - Well, I came in 1910 and - gardeners still there. + 202 + 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,770 + and our Seminary + has never been more - 78 - 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:14,765 - My brother was kind of an - assistant productive guard. + 203 + 00:11:24,770 --> 00:11:27,335 + exciting or more satisfying - 79 - 00:04:14,765 --> 00:04:18,530 - He had charged to the - making the schedules for + 204 + 00:11:27,335 --> 00:11:30,635 + or more challenging + than it is this year. - 80 - 00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:20,165 - the students and and + 205 + 00:11:30,635 --> 00:11:32,300 + I'm so glad that when - 81 - 00:04:20,165 --> 00:04:21,680 - different students - had different jobs. + 206 + 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,610 + the Lord called me + into his service, - 82 - 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,479 - They want to get away - early and could they + 207 + 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:38,690 + sign me to the task of + working with young people. - 83 - 00:04:23,479 --> 00:04:25,640 - get the classes personally - in the morning? + 208 + 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:40,610 + And I have a sense of - 84 - 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,740 - And one teacher that's - missed Swensen came + 209 + 00:11:40,610 --> 00:11:44,120 + great personal satisfaction + in seeking to relate - 85 - 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:29,749 - to St. Paul and she she wanted + 210 + 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,270 + my own life and + commitment to Christ to - 86 - 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:32,420 - to not have to come + 211 + 00:11:47,270 --> 00:11:49,010 + the hundreds of + young people who are - 87 - 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:33,619 - early and she wanted to leave + 212 + 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:51,260 + on the campus year after year, - 88 - 00:04:33,619 --> 00:04:35,840 - early because she had - something on my brother. + 213 + 00:11:51,260 --> 00:11:55,130 + and pray that as they + find their place in life, - 89 - 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,629 - He he'd work on act on - that schedule and every + 214 + 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:57,980 + God will use them to help shape - 90 - 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:42,959 - year he got everybody. - It is a miracle + 215 + 00:11:57,980 --> 00:12:01,775 + the future of our world + with Christian values. - 91 - 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:48,950 - by the light, be the token - with my big brother. + 216 + 00:12:01,775 --> 00:12:04,550 + During the course of the + two decades that I've - 92 - 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:51,710 - And he has meant I could - tell it to read my books. + 217 + 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:07,160 + had the privilege of being + on the Bethel campus, - 93 - 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:55,190 - Sometimes they attribute data. + 218 + 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,300 + I would guess that I have had + the opportunity of working - 94 - 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:58,625 - We just opened it and - remember that influences. + 219 + 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:13,730 + directly or indirectly with - 95 - 00:04:58,625 --> 00:05:03,425 - Well anyway, he'd been - went the other way. + 220 + 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:16,970 + more than 15 thousand + young people. - 96 - 00:05:03,425 --> 00:05:06,680 - We were working a lot with - little fellow. I was there. + 221 + 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:19,325 + And wherever I go + around the world, - 97 - 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,090 - I was five years, + 222 + 00:12:19,325 --> 00:12:22,055 + I see them busy for Jesus Christ. - 98 - 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:09,515 - almost five years - younger than he. + 223 + 00:12:22,055 --> 00:12:24,950 + They are in almost every + field of endeavor. - 99 - 00:05:09,515 --> 00:05:12,110 - And he picked up that used - to pick up cigar butts, + 224 + 00:12:24,950 --> 00:12:26,884 + Some are college president's, - 100 - 00:05:12,110 --> 00:05:13,580 - cigarette butts, kitchen, + 225 + 00:12:26,884 --> 00:12:29,360 + some are presence of + Christian schools like - 101 - 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:14,749 - I used to do with the OT do yet, + 226 + 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,895 + Bethel College and a seminary. - 102 - 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:16,145 - maybe probably not though. + 227 + 00:12:31,895 --> 00:12:34,475 + Some are teachers in + public universities, - 103 - 00:05:16,145 --> 00:05:17,989 - He picked up a cigar - and I thought it was + 228 + 00:12:34,475 --> 00:12:38,105 + some are doctors and + lawyers and businessmen. - 104 - 00:05:17,989 --> 00:05:19,730 - going to do that. He - said, Henry with you. + 229 + 00:12:38,105 --> 00:12:40,730 + Many are social workers and are - 105 - 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:22,369 - Promise me one thing what I said, + 230 + 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:44,300 + extending their lives into + this field of human endeavor. - 106 - 00:05:22,369 --> 00:05:24,905 - but that she will - never smoke on age. + 231 + 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:46,970 + Many are missionaries + and pastors on - 107 - 00:05:24,905 --> 00:05:27,590 - Now he he could've - done something else. + 232 + 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:50,765 + the front line proclaiming + the gospel of Jesus Christ. - 108 - 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:29,719 - You know, top deaths - would and I said, + 233 + 00:12:50,765 --> 00:12:52,670 + I always come back from seeing - 109 - 00:05:29,719 --> 00:05:31,025 - sure, I promise you. + 234 + 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:54,320 + these alumni at work around - 110 - 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:33,799 - Well, I don't know how - strong that promise was, + 235 + 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,430 + the world praising God all + over again for the share that - 111 - 00:05:33,799 --> 00:05:35,570 - but I knew I never - did and never smoked + 236 + 00:12:58,430 --> 00:13:02,090 + Mrs. Lundquist and I + have in their lives. - 112 - 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:37,910 - cigarette smoke smoke cigarettes? + 237 + 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:04,850 + Just the other day, I + received a note from - 113 - 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:40,220 - Of course not. But that's - the way he could've led me. + 238 + 00:13:04,850 --> 00:13:07,445 + a young girl who + graduated last spring. - 114 - 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,175 - As I say in the book, - he led me down. + 239 + 00:13:07,445 --> 00:13:08,870 + He's now the director of - 115 - 00:05:43,175 --> 00:05:46,295 - He led me up and all - the rest of the way. + 240 + 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:11,480 + a Bible school program + on the west coast. - 116 - 00:05:46,295 --> 00:05:47,600 - He wish he would want to + 241 + 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,090 + She wrote saying that during + the preceding summer, - 117 - 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,550 - encourage them into - everything you've ever done. + 242 + 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:15,140 + she had the chance of - 118 - 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:52,430 - I'm going to quit school, - go to school, you should. + 243 + 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:16,910 + leading 71 children to - 119 - 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:56,990 - Henry and I went and I mean, + 244 + 00:13:16,910 --> 00:13:19,265 + a saving knowledge + of Jesus Christ. - 120 - 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:59,059 - he persuaded me and just all + 245 + 00:13:19,265 --> 00:13:23,780 + So she was writing out a great + enthusiasm along with it. - 121 - 00:05:59,059 --> 00:06:01,880 - the way through, - he'd been wonderful. + 246 + 00:13:23,780 --> 00:13:25,910 + This young girl just + a few months out of - 122 - 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,970 - Well, he came, he - became principal. + 247 + 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:29,870 + Bethel and closed a + money order for $40, - 123 - 00:06:04,970 --> 00:06:07,279 - Then after Dr. Gore had left + 248 + 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:34,130 + her first gift as an + alumna to her alma mater. - 124 - 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,320 - and he loved music, + 249 + 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:36,875 + With it, she said a little note, - 125 - 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,150 - used to sing songs. - We sing duets. + 250 + 00:13:36,875 --> 00:13:40,595 + you might be interested + in one paragraph of it. - 126 - 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:13,054 - You can do it on the telephone, + 251 + 00:13:40,595 --> 00:13:42,395 + This young girl wrote, - 127 - 00:06:13,054 --> 00:06:15,425 - country telephone, - and in the churches. + 252 + 00:13:42,395 --> 00:13:45,200 + I graduated from + Bethel this past May, - 128 - 00:06:15,425 --> 00:06:17,814 - And the first show me saying I'm + 253 + 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,970 + and I never told you how much. - 129 - 00:06:17,814 --> 00:06:20,134 - inviting some of the song + 254 + 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:48,710 + I appreciate both of you. - 130 - 00:06:20,134 --> 00:06:22,700 - and matter railroads - were saying everywhere. + 255 + 00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:51,050 + This is addressed to + both Mrs. Lundquist, - 131 - 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:27,440 - And then ten or ending soprano, + 256 + 00:13:51,050 --> 00:13:53,210 + myself, you were and - 132 - 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 - I guess Japan or Beijing. + 257 + 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:55,565 + have continued to be + an inspiration to me. - 133 - 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,540 - And he'd come home from - college, Williams Jr. College. + 258 + 00:13:55,565 --> 00:13:57,320 + I pray that God will richly - 134 - 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:37,159 - We take a long walk and - you tell me everything + 259 + 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,495 + bless you both for + all you've done. - 135 - 00:06:37,159 --> 00:06:39,125 - happened in a school - and everything. + 260 + 00:13:59,495 --> 00:14:00,935 + Not just for battle, - 136 - 00:06:39,125 --> 00:06:42,680 - He was he was just a terrific - influence in my life. + 261 + 00:14:00,935 --> 00:14:03,965 + but for me and all the + individual students. - 137 - 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,590 - And I've got that - written up in the book. + 262 + 00:14:03,965 --> 00:14:05,705 + We love you dearly. - 138 - 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:48,995 - When it came to music - used to sing solos + 263 + 00:14:05,705 --> 00:14:07,520 + And I want you to + know that I will be - 139 - 00:06:48,995 --> 00:06:52,190 - He was also an athlete who's - on the varsity football team + 264 + 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,040 + continually praying for you both. - 140 - 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:55,160 - at Williams College - and Kansas City there. + 265 + 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,200 + Well, that's enough to keep - 141 - 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,509 - And so when he became principal, + 266 + 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,510 + a president going for + another whole year. - 142 - 00:06:59,509 --> 00:07:03,590 - the Academy, he could - use those talents. + 267 + 00:14:14,510 --> 00:14:17,600 + And it's only a small sample of - 143 - 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:08,570 - And the organized - every year a may, + 268 + 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,720 + the enthusiasm of one + alumnus that i c, - 144 - 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:11,119 - of course, metal Academy gave + 269 + 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,480 + multiplied and many + lives around the world, - 145 - 00:07:11,119 --> 00:07:12,950 - a concert that twin - city church and we + 270 + 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,605 + and that I share myself long ago, - 146 - 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:15,035 - were the pet to the - Trinity Church. + 271 + 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:30,560 + Mark Hopkins said that + the ideal picture of - 147 - 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:17,120 - There little opposition - between Chicago + 272 + 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,370 + a school was made up of one + student and one teacher, - 148 - 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,070 - and Cemetery and academy. + 273 + 00:14:34,370 --> 00:14:36,665 + each on two ends of a log. - 149 - 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:21,799 - There's kind of a fiction - friction there in + 274 + 00:14:36,665 --> 00:14:38,300 + And when they were there, - 150 - 00:07:21,799 --> 00:07:25,190 - a mild way or sheep and they - turn out they pack a chair. + 275 + 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:41,120 + they had an educational + experience going. - 151 - 00:07:25,190 --> 00:07:26,449 - It can never that - contract came out + 276 + 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,400 + I think, however that + we would have to - 152 - 00:07:26,449 --> 00:07:27,830 - from Bethel Academy and for + 277 + 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,500 + say that somewhere + on that log there is - 153 - 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:31,279 - other things for Bethel - Academy. And then + 278 + 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,755 + a third person and + that's the partner - 154 - 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:35,630 - he had an amusing and then - his athletic prowess. + 279 + 00:14:48,755 --> 00:14:52,535 + like you in the life + of Bethel people. - 155 - 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:38,360 - And he was able to lead the - boys athletics and leave + 280 + 00:14:52,535 --> 00:14:54,620 + And we believe in the + mission of our school, - 156 - 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,285 - the field day athletic. + 281 + 00:14:54,620 --> 00:14:56,720 + who believe in + young people today, - 157 - 00:07:41,285 --> 00:07:44,570 - And he did a great work - and quiet Pele and up. + 282 + 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,080 + who believe in the need for + Christian higher education, - 158 - 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:46,699 - But he yeah, that's + 283 + 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,060 + who believe in using education - 159 - 00:07:46,699 --> 00:07:48,530 - the way he's been IBS - you pretend there for + 284 + 00:15:02,060 --> 00:15:04,370 + as an instrument of the gospel. - 160 - 00:07:48,530 --> 00:07:52,820 - 50 years and more and he's - still a strength in that. + 285 + 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:07,340 + And who, as a result + of these beliefs, - 161 - 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:55,670 - Chair members of the - Board of Trustees + 286 + 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:10,925 + are investing their + gifts in battle. - 162 - 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:58,220 - he picked up on the street - and come to Sunday School. + 287 + 00:15:10,925 --> 00:15:15,110 + I feel that you are partners + with us in helping to shape - 163 - 00:07:58,220 --> 00:07:59,870 - The man that shipped - in the Sunday School + 288 + 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:17,930 + a whole new generation that can - 164 - 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:02,490 - picked him years ago. + 289 + 00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:21,305 + make a difference for Jesus + Christ in this world. - 165 - 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:06,395 - Tell me a story about that. + 290 + 00:15:21,305 --> 00:15:23,840 + I hope that you will + want to continue to - 166 - 00:08:06,395 --> 00:08:08,180 - And it's a real all - the way through. + 291 + 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,225 + be a partner at the + level of stewardship. - 167 - 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:09,889 - I was coming from - some meetings up in + 292 + 00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:30,410 + And that this year you + will again find great joy - 168 - 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:14,090 - northern Minnesota and - I was on a bus Sunday + 293 + 00:15:30,410 --> 00:15:34,804 + and satisfaction yourself + in multiplying your life - 169 - 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:17,599 - night and Bush was almost - empty and I show how to get + 294 + 00:15:34,804 --> 00:15:38,060 + >> into the lives of + hundreds of young people - 170 - 00:08:17,599 --> 00:08:18,950 - on the bus kind of + 295 + 00:15:38,060 --> 00:15:42,260 + whose education you + make possible at Beso. - 171 - 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:21,290 - drunk and another fellow - saying goodbye to him. + 296 + 00:15:42,260 --> 00:15:48,620 + Thank you so much for what + you do and for what you are. - 172 - 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:23,480 - 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Titled his talk. - 173 - 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,409 - down drug or clinic Christian, + 2 + 00:00:09,525 --> 00:00:12,720 + I come just a few days ago from - 174 - 00:08:27,409 --> 00:08:29,720 - you know, and he + 3 + 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,080 + the voltage Swedish Baptist + Church in the world. - 175 - 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,600 - came and said that - brings you to pull out. + 4 + 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,940 + As you probably know, - 176 - 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,960 - His players have a - great favor, vacuous. + 5 + 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:21,765 + there will be celebrating + the 20th anniversary. - 177 - 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,294 - And he took it pretty soon again, + 6 + 00:00:21,765 --> 00:00:24,959 + And as I say, the oldest + in the world, they know, - 178 - 00:08:40,294 --> 00:08:42,410 - you know, we had it - would have a drink. + 7 + 00:00:24,959 --> 00:00:26,730 + Swedish Baptist Church + in Sweden that says - 179 - 00:08:42,410 --> 00:08:46,324 - Neighbor actually about - the third time he said + 8 + 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:30,090 + oldest church down in Iowa. - 180 - 00:08:46,324 --> 00:08:48,290 - by any chance him and it's true. + 9 + 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:32,189 + The General Conference was - 181 - 00:08:48,290 --> 00:08:50,060 - And I told him what I was doing. + 10 + 00:00:32,189 --> 00:00:34,740 + organized in that church. + Now that's interesting. + + 11 + 00:00:34,740 --> 00:00:38,324 + You know that somebody in 1879, - 182 - 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:51,350 - Oh, I'm so sorry. + 12 + 00:00:38,324 --> 00:00:39,719 + Agenda conference organizer to - 183 - 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:56,135 - He said, hi, I don't - drink, I don't dream. + 13 + 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:42,595 + very small group of churches, - 184 - 00:08:56,135 --> 00:08:57,590 - But, you know, it's terrible. + 14 + 00:00:42,595 --> 00:00:44,330 + not so many from the East. - 185 - 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:58,730 - I'm going back to the worn + 15 + 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:45,799 + There were some churches + there, of course, - 186 - 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,695 - out going back to - our station there. + 16 + 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:47,030 + but it is more in - 187 - 00:09:00,695 --> 00:09:03,605 - And I just have my wife - and children with his + 17 + 00:00:47,030 --> 00:00:50,240 + the midway and some from + the East met there. - 188 - 00:09:03,605 --> 00:09:06,950 - with her folks know I'm going - back and it's terrible. + 18 + 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,079 + And we have the history in - 189 - 00:09:06,950 --> 00:09:07,970 - What do you think about this? + 19 + 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:55,729 + the General Conference + and you'll that you - 190 - 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:09,499 - War is a terrible, + 20 + 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:57,905 + get every year at the conference. - 191 - 00:09:09,499 --> 00:09:11,285 - terrible, and so on. + 21 + 00:00:57,905 --> 00:01:02,450 + You have some records there - 192 - 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:12,920 - And then he told me, + 22 + 00:01:02,450 --> 00:01:04,250 + until she was chairman - 193 - 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,155 - you belong in the - spiritualist church. + 23 + 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:07,685 + that year and so on, + presiding officer. - 194 - 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:16,640 - He belonged who had - come to church, + 24 + 00:01:07,685 --> 00:01:10,430 + And where they met + two pizzas servant. - 195 - 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,440 - which they're kind people. + 25 + 00:01:10,430 --> 00:01:13,489 + Well, the very first + one would be that - 196 - 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,289 - And about Jerry, he said, - I don't want to drink, + 26 + 00:01:13,489 --> 00:01:17,225 + one in Lansing pilot. - 197 - 00:09:21,289 --> 00:09:23,119 - but he got into this - just to kinda shoe + 27 + 00:01:17,225 --> 00:01:20,089 + Now, regarding the Swedish + Baptist movement manner, - 198 - 00:09:23,119 --> 00:09:25,745 - this mind and, and all of that. + 28 + 00:01:20,089 --> 00:01:24,214 + say just talk in front of the + Swedish Baptist movement. - 199 - 00:09:25,745 --> 00:09:29,045 - And he said, you know, I - live in Minneapolis, I work + 29 + 00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:28,565 + >> America was like + the Lutheran movement. - 200 - 00:09:29,045 --> 00:09:31,880 - and there's a fellow - came and picked + 30 + 00:01:28,565 --> 00:01:32,045 + Unlike other movements + from Europe. - 201 - 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,889 - up my little boy - comes from layer, + 31 + 00:01:32,045 --> 00:01:35,420 + They would come to America + because that's a new country. - 202 - 00:09:33,889 --> 00:09:35,450 - which suddenly went - on Abraham and he + 32 + 00:01:35,420 --> 00:01:36,949 + That so that's a silver - 203 - 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:37,040 - said he took that boil. + 33 + 00:01:36,949 --> 00:01:38,840 + and gold and American, + all of that. - 204 - 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,110 - All I said was a name wing blade. + 34 + 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,715 + My mother and father came. - 205 - 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:40,640 - Yes. He said do you know him? + 35 + 00:01:40,715 --> 00:01:43,459 + Your some of your ancestors did, - 206 - 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,160 - And I said, oh, + 36 + 00:01:43,459 --> 00:01:45,320 + Davis did and all that. - 207 - 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,259 - I want to write home to my - wife and tell her that I met + 37 + 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,725 + And sometimes they come + in groups from Sweden. - 208 - 00:09:45,259 --> 00:09:47,990 - a man on the bus - who knew that man + 38 + 00:01:48,725 --> 00:01:53,960 + And now my father and mother + came first to New York. - 209 - 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:51,814 - made good progress and have + 39 + 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,510 + Never met that there + were married and he - 210 - 00:09:51,814 --> 00:09:53,689 - that whether we had the warm + 40 + 00:01:56,510 --> 00:01:59,180 + became a Christian also, - 211 - 00:09:53,689 --> 00:09:55,339 - talked all the way - to Minneapolis, + 41 + 00:01:59,180 --> 00:02:01,940 + but he wasn't at first + and they went out west - 212 - 00:09:55,339 --> 00:09:57,350 - had a wonderful time, really did. + 42 + 00:02:01,940 --> 00:02:04,175 + and finally father homesteaders - 213 - 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:59,344 - And when I got home, + 43 + 00:02:04,175 --> 00:02:06,320 + to farm in northern Kansas. - 214 - 00:09:59,344 --> 00:10:02,764 - I called my brother - has about 111130 + 44 + 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,305 + Here. They weren't + alone in that district. - 215 - 00:10:02,764 --> 00:10:05,450 - and he gave me the - name of the boy. + 45 + 00:02:09,305 --> 00:02:12,004 + There's a group that + I come from Sweden, - 216 - 00:10:05,450 --> 00:10:07,580 - Let's call them sandwich burnout. + 46 + 00:02:12,004 --> 00:02:14,570 + had been converted in Sweden. - 217 - 00:10:07,580 --> 00:10:09,109 - And I call my brothers - or do you know + 47 + 00:02:14,570 --> 00:02:16,430 + There's a book that + I wish I could + + 48 + 00:02:16,430 --> 00:02:17,450 + read if you get a hold of it, - 218 - 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:10,895 - Sam? Did you ever pick him? + 49 + 00:02:17,450 --> 00:02:18,605 + the song of the roche. - 219 - 00:10:10,895 --> 00:10:12,470 - By the name of the father, + 50 + 00:02:18,605 --> 00:02:19,669 + Maybe it's in the library, - 220 - 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:14,360 - I guess I said and I said, + 51 + 00:02:19,669 --> 00:02:22,475 + maybe not iPads to run my church. - 221 - 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,970 - You know, somebody so-and-so - had a boy who picked up. + 52 + 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:24,140 + I send it to theater ambition of - 222 - 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:18,560 - Oh, yeah, that was damnation. + 53 + 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:25,820 + the covenant church, + a copy of it. - 223 - 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,290 - Yes, I picked him. I never - could get them to come. + 54 + 00:02:25,820 --> 00:02:29,180 + Sum those two takes care. - 224 - 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:23,690 - But PK Well, that's my brother. + 55 + 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:32,449 + It presents the artistic + movements are with God in - 225 - 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:29,389 - You see she now all the - way through and right now, + 56 + 00:02:32,449 --> 00:02:34,490 + Sweden and they'd + meet and you see - 226 - 00:10:29,389 --> 00:10:30,920 - each advisor for the pasture + 57 + 00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:36,910 + the state church + was cold and day. - 227 - 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,510 - pasture tapes that - have really changed + 58 + 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:39,109 + It was pretty much + dead in places, - 228 - 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:36,815 - you in the in the church - and even in a loving way. + 59 + 00:02:39,109 --> 00:02:42,875 + you know, and it didn't, + it wasn't spirits. - 229 - 00:10:36,815 --> 00:10:40,835 - He believes in prayer and - he prays for everything. + 60 + 00:02:42,875 --> 00:02:45,095 + Or even Sir Walter + Scott brings that out. - 230 - 00:10:40,835 --> 00:10:43,160 - Well, now let's see what else. + 61 + 00:02:45,095 --> 00:02:48,905 + How the power let that cathedral + and went to the cottage. - 231 - 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,085 - I know the time came to - unite the two schools. + 62 + 00:02:48,905 --> 00:02:52,760 + Remember that line + Spencer edition said? - 232 - 00:10:46,085 --> 00:10:48,080 - Chicago churches were pretty + 63 + 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,330 + And so they organized - 233 - 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,404 - strong to keep the - seminary in Chicago, + 64 + 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:57,155 + their little church + in northern Kansas. - 234 - 00:10:50,404 --> 00:10:53,135 - but they didn't raise any - money to do anything about it. + 65 + 00:02:57,155 --> 00:03:00,065 + Maybe 12 members, + maybe 40 members. - 235 - 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:54,755 - Many soda. + 66 + 00:03:00,065 --> 00:03:03,950 + Number of couples that + knew each other in Sweden. - 236 - 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:55,895 - The academy was here. + 67 + 00:03:03,950 --> 00:03:06,589 + And there are at least I remember - 237 - 00:10:55,895 --> 00:10:57,050 - We had one building + 68 + 00:03:06,589 --> 00:03:09,920 + was when I was in + Sunday School there, - 238 - 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:58,475 - anyway, they didn't - have any building. + 69 + 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,980 + my father taught off him + and and all the boys. - 239 - 00:10:58,475 --> 00:11:00,380 - They borrowed buildings - from Chicago University + 70 + 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:15,050 + And I was five years old. - 240 - 00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:01,715 - that they didn't have their own, + 71 + 00:03:15,050 --> 00:03:16,745 + Cemetery moved away. - 241 - 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:03,305 - just about we can shape + 72 + 00:03:16,745 --> 00:03:18,770 + But he was my father + was talking and he was - 242 - 00:11:03,305 --> 00:11:05,480 - and but we had that - academy building. + 73 + 00:03:18,770 --> 00:03:23,090 + just a Ernest Christian and + not educated and all of that, - 243 - 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,170 - Michelle and Dr. - Laura said, oh good, + 74 + 00:03:23,090 --> 00:03:24,890 + but he knew the Bible. - 244 - 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:13,895 - that'll build little rat hole. + 75 + 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:26,180 + I remember he turned to me. - 245 - 00:11:13,895 --> 00:11:16,620 - I think he used that - word in Swedish, + 76 + 00:03:26,180 --> 00:03:27,485 + Henry, what do you think about - 246 - 00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:21,140 - but he was riots but does go now. + 77 + 00:03:27,485 --> 00:03:29,990 + that for Beth and thereby lab, - 247 - 00:11:21,140 --> 00:11:22,189 - They had Home George, + 78 + 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:32,960 + because he's got the + humor to it to do that. - 248 - 00:11:22,189 --> 00:11:23,870 - professors, they had nice homes. + 79 + 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,315 + I think about that. - 249 - 00:11:23,870 --> 00:11:25,759 - And in Morgan Park, you know, + 80 + 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:37,145 + You're in this class too. - 250 - 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,505 - kind of neighborhood like this, - there's only not so good. + 81 + 00:03:37,145 --> 00:03:38,900 + And there was a pastor. - 251 - 00:11:28,505 --> 00:11:30,335 - And they did whether Lee, + 82 + 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:41,330 + His name was John JSON. + Whatever the Misha DJ. - 252 - 00:11:30,335 --> 00:11:31,400 - Dr. hid, the inductor, + 83 + 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:43,549 + And they got you got $300 a year, - 253 - 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,019 - Sandel doctor, lawyer in, + 84 + 00:03:43,549 --> 00:03:46,430 + which is a lot of + money things dollar + + 85 + 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:49,609 + than would be dollar + now would be 30, - 254 - 00:11:33,019 --> 00:11:35,209 - maybe somebody else. And, + 86 + 00:03:49,609 --> 00:03:51,410 + $40? Yes, it would be. - 255 - 00:11:35,209 --> 00:11:38,689 - and they voted on the, - the, the conference, + 87 + 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:54,274 + I think you've you + that well, anyway, - 256 - 00:11:38,689 --> 00:11:41,810 - decided to let all the - churches in the country in + 88 + 00:03:54,274 --> 00:03:58,040 + there were groups and + there were churches here. - 257 - 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:43,759 - the conference vote on whether it + 89 + 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,580 + They're organized and then + they would get together. - 258 - 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,130 - should be in Chicago, - orange, St. Paul. + 90 + 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:07,455 + And finally they organized a + general conference in 1879. - 259 - 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:48,484 - In the meantime, - there's a little dip, + 91 + 00:04:07,455 --> 00:04:09,655 + And then the work went up. - 260 - 00:11:48,484 --> 00:11:51,110 - maybe 3 thousand I mentioned - to you by thousand, + 92 + 00:04:09,655 --> 00:04:11,755 + Now I press, there was no school. - 261 - 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:53,330 - eight thousand on the academy. + 93 + 00:04:11,755 --> 00:04:15,895 + You know that the preachers + came from Sweden and - 262 - 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:54,830 - And they had the Academy to + 94 + 00:04:15,895 --> 00:04:17,710 + they want to keep a Swedish + so long as they could - 263 - 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:56,944 - give degenerate - handprints. That building + 95 + 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:20,860 + because they couldn't + reach English very well. - 264 - 00:11:56,944 --> 00:11:59,869 - we had nothing to offer. - And so they got busy + 96 + 00:04:20,860 --> 00:04:23,440 + And but then among them there was - 265 - 00:11:59,869 --> 00:12:01,429 - raising money to pay + 97 + 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,470 + one young man who was + glories that converted. - 266 - 00:12:01,429 --> 00:12:03,965 - off that mortgage and - they're paid it off. + 98 + 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:28,795 + His name was that + lake. Sustained grin. - 267 - 00:12:03,965 --> 00:12:06,409 - And then they could - say, Now we'll give + 99 + 00:04:28,795 --> 00:04:31,180 + And he saw you felt deep in - 268 - 00:12:06,409 --> 00:12:09,320 - that building to degenerate - whatever they can do with it. + 100 + 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:33,250 + his heart that he had + great possibilities. - 269 - 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,270 - And that that's a + 101 + 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:37,210 + Otherwise, he saw + the need of having - 270 - 00:12:11,270 --> 00:12:13,310 - clear and gave it to - him. He told paid up. + 102 + 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:38,919 + a training school for - 271 - 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:15,605 - Well then when churches voted, + 103 + 00:04:38,919 --> 00:04:42,130 + Pasteur's training + pastors for the work. - 272 - 00:12:15,605 --> 00:12:17,840 - they voted overwhelmingly to move + 104 + 00:04:42,130 --> 00:04:50,189 + But he came as a sailor boy + to America or something - 273 - 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,120 - the seminary to St. Paul. + 105 + 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:52,009 + in the Swedish young people, - 274 - 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,935 - In 1912, we had terrible - January Conference in Chicago. + 106 + 00:04:52,009 --> 00:04:54,469 + Swedish boys all over the world, - 275 - 00:12:27,935 --> 00:12:30,170 - And they were talking - back and forth, + 107 + 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:57,845 + I guess they see a + ship, have saga. - 276 - 00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:33,770 - hot and heavy and something - like this committee going + 108 + 00:04:57,845 --> 00:05:00,650 + That's sweet poem that + everybody knows. Who should we? - 277 - 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:38,390 - on in New York - afternoon, Watergate. + 109 + 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:02,270 + I remember so well that I - 278 - 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:41,330 - The senators were fighting + 110 + 00:05:02,270 --> 00:05:03,605 + think it's in there where it is. - 279 - 00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:42,980 - yesterday to hear on the radio. + 111 + 00:05:03,605 --> 00:05:05,795 + But this young man was restless. - 280 - 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:45,440 - They call each other well, + 112 + 00:05:05,795 --> 00:05:10,565 + Maybe his name, his residency, - 281 - 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,180 - but they were very hot and heavy. + 113 + 00:05:10,565 --> 00:05:12,049 + he didn't know what's + the matter with - 282 - 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:54,005 - They the 19201912, but - they didn't get anywhere. + 114 + 00:05:12,049 --> 00:05:14,330 + him and he didn't know + what the recipe would be. - 283 - 00:12:54,005 --> 00:12:55,970 - But they voted to - have the converse and + 115 + 00:05:14,330 --> 00:05:15,829 + Left would help. And then he saw - 284 - 00:12:55,970 --> 00:12:58,475 - next year in 1913 into Lou, + 116 + 00:05:15,829 --> 00:05:19,820 + a ship in the harbor. + That's the answer. - 285 - 00:12:58,475 --> 00:13:01,130 - and that became the - Peace Conference. + 117 + 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:22,340 + And he made a run + for the shipment, - 286 - 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:02,840 - Oh, and there's a - wonderful spirit + 118 + 00:05:22,340 --> 00:05:25,339 + got on there and actually + kept and it could - 287 - 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,070 - and that got, - remember, I didn't go. + 119 + 00:05:25,339 --> 00:05:27,050 + be on there and stay on and - 288 - 00:13:04,070 --> 00:13:05,945 - He just learned - beside themselves. + 120 + 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:29,105 + have a job and you + save the seeds. + + 121 + 00:05:29,105 --> 00:05:31,025 + Now that's your Lexus. - 289 - 00:13:05,945 --> 00:13:08,810 - Didn't go. But they want to - they were wished he had come. + 122 + 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:32,450 + It when we're talking + about elections. - 290 - 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:14,660 - And then they voted to go right - ahead in the Twin Cities. + 123 + 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:34,325 + Abraham, marvelous person. - 291 - 00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:15,889 - That's a recommendation of + 124 + 00:05:34,325 --> 00:05:37,519 + And he didn't go through + just that experience, - 292 - 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:18,470 - gender conference, - almost two to one. + 125 + 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,295 + but you wanted to go sailing - 293 - 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:21,245 - I don't remember exactly - what the poison the churches + 126 + 00:05:40,295 --> 00:05:42,635 + and there was a ship there too. - 294 - 00:13:21,245 --> 00:13:23,570 - And that and they voted not here + 127 + 00:05:42,635 --> 00:05:44,195 + And he asked his parents, - 295 - 00:13:23,570 --> 00:13:25,580 - to I crashed in this thing. + 128 + 00:05:44,195 --> 00:05:45,800 + got permission from + them and they said, - 296 - 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:27,425 - They call Dr. angstrom + 129 + 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,629 + well, if that is what + you really want to do, - 297 - 00:13:27,425 --> 00:13:29,900 - to be the first - president of the school. + 130 + 00:05:47,629 --> 00:05:49,070 + we're not going to stop you. - 298 - 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:31,729 - Now doctor asked him, + 131 + 00:05:49,070 --> 00:05:50,690 + Pray that the Nordau + bless you wherever - 299 - 00:13:31,729 --> 00:13:33,739 - was a boy who sold newspapers + 132 + 00:05:50,690 --> 00:05:52,505 + you go and take care of you. - 300 - 00:13:33,739 --> 00:13:35,825 - on the streets of Minneapolis. + 133 + 00:05:52,505 --> 00:05:55,459 + And so alexis Adrian became - 301 - 00:13:35,825 --> 00:13:37,309 - He was wonderfully converted to + 134 + 00:05:55,459 --> 00:06:01,379 + ish sailor boy and he's + sale almost seven C's - 302 - 00:13:37,309 --> 00:13:38,629 - enter Dr. Frank Peterson in + 135 + 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:07,250 + the age of 15, I + think this was now, - 303 - 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:42,079 - the meeting saying he - could talk Swedish, + 136 + 00:06:07,250 --> 00:06:08,330 + I like to think of it like say, - 304 - 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:44,255 - but he knew English, of course. + 137 + 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:10,790 + ugliness, going + through three fires. - 305 - 00:13:44,255 --> 00:13:47,389 - And when Dr. Frank Peterson, + 138 + 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:13,865 + One wish a fire when + you wish converted. - 306 - 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:50,809 - who is Chair of President - pasture that church sent Arvin, + 139 + 00:06:13,865 --> 00:06:15,950 + Another which a fire of - 307 - 00:13:50,809 --> 00:13:52,549 - takes him to Chicago to + 140 + 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:18,635 + the Civil War in which + you had a great time. - 308 - 00:13:52,549 --> 00:13:54,830 - the seminary logger - and said to him, + 141 + 00:06:18,635 --> 00:06:22,700 + And the third was that + fire when Chicago Bern, - 309 - 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:56,780 - we can't use you - your canto treaty. + 142 + 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:26,390 + almost Chicago altogether burned. - 310 - 00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:59,315 - How can we use your niche - where you can talk treaty? + 143 + 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:30,560 + But the first fire was this one. - 311 - 00:13:59,315 --> 00:14:01,190 - Frank Peters and - wrote a letter to Dr. + 144 + 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,150 + He wasn't a Christian. - 312 - 00:14:01,190 --> 00:14:04,339 - logging that you just see that + 145 + 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:34,010 + He hadn't accepted + crashes or saver. - 313 - 00:14:04,339 --> 00:14:06,619 - he said if you are - going to send back, + 146 + 00:06:34,010 --> 00:06:36,454 + He was living in what + we would call sin, - 314 - 00:14:06,619 --> 00:14:08,900 - the boys were sent to - you to the seminary. + 147 + 00:06:36,454 --> 00:06:40,100 + and he was in New + York Harbor sleeping. - 315 - 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:12,590 - You better go back to - sweep because I'm English. + 148 + 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:43,654 + In his book, on the + ship in New York Harbor - 316 - 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:16,369 - Well anyway, IIT logo meant well, + 149 + 00:06:43,654 --> 00:06:48,005 + >> And he had a dream. - 317 - 00:14:16,369 --> 00:14:18,785 - he wouldn't quite strong - as I've said put it. + 150 + 00:06:48,005 --> 00:06:49,759 + In the dream you + used on the way to - 318 - 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:22,160 - And but takes from his - trembled Wesley's Swedish now. + 151 + 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:51,289 + some place of amusement, - 319 - 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,660 - He preaches Swedish churches. + 152 + 00:06:51,289 --> 00:06:53,810 + which was clearly considered sin. - 320 - 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:25,970 - He would write it in English and + 153 + 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:56,660 + And he saw a fire come, - 321 - 00:14:25,970 --> 00:14:29,195 - then his wife would helping - translated into Swedish. + 154 + 00:06:56,660 --> 00:07:00,665 + come crawling along + toward a from the right. - 322 - 00:14:29,195 --> 00:14:31,205 - And then he would - preach Swedish issue + 155 + 00:07:00,665 --> 00:07:02,570 + And the lack of it, prayer fire, - 323 - 00:14:31,205 --> 00:14:33,110 - that to wait, you struggle alone. + 156 + 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:03,994 + but it's a mystic fire. - 324 - 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:36,770 - He became pastor of - Chicago when he was 30. + 157 + 00:07:03,994 --> 00:07:05,840 + >> And he saw it coming. + + 158 + 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:07,250 + And he tried his + best to get out of - 325 - 00:14:36,770 --> 00:14:40,084 - And he was missionary around - their four-year gentlemen, + 159 + 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:09,919 + the way and but he just - 326 - 00:14:40,084 --> 00:14:41,105 - but can use 30. + 160 + 00:07:09,919 --> 00:07:12,484 + couldn't even outage + a nightmarish hadron - 327 - 00:14:41,105 --> 00:14:42,710 - He was called a - Chicago first year. + 161 + 00:07:12,484 --> 00:07:14,150 + just could move others. - 328 - 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:44,540 - It's a large church - in our conference. + 162 + 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:16,250 + It's coming, it's + coming, it's coming. - 329 - 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:48,200 - And he was the outstanding - pasture in our conference. + 163 + 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:18,409 + And finally he was able just it, - 330 - 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,135 - And he had the - outstanding church. + 164 + 00:07:18,409 --> 00:07:21,245 + it came and just got him + in the side like that. - 331 - 00:14:50,135 --> 00:14:51,500 - He mixed with the leaders in + 165 + 00:07:21,245 --> 00:07:27,680 + And he leaped up and it was + so real and he was awake now, - 332 - 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,270 - Chicago and get ideas, you know, + 166 + 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,145 + but he jumped up and he + bares his side to see. - 333 - 00:14:53,270 --> 00:14:54,859 - the big churches, pastors + 167 + 00:07:31,145 --> 00:07:33,514 + It is still burning. It + was still hot, Jesse, - 334 - 00:14:54,859 --> 00:14:57,170 - there went ten to their meetings. + 168 + 00:07:33,514 --> 00:07:36,560 + and he couldn't see any + sign of it on the body. - 335 - 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:59,900 - And he was very progressive - and revivalist in the church. + 169 + 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,515 + But something deeper + that had happened. - 336 - 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:01,550 - I should just said - we had revivals + 170 + 00:07:39,515 --> 00:07:42,830 + And you read ran out on the + deck and the snowstorm. - 337 - 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:03,770 - and Bethel Academy, - the old Asian. + 171 + 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:45,509 + You've heard of John - 338 - 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:07,834 - And wish we had the largest - missionary volunteer group + 172 + 00:07:45,580 --> 00:07:50,570 + the side kick, John Wesley John. - 339 - 00:15:07,834 --> 00:15:09,529 - in the state university or + 173 + 00:07:50,570 --> 00:07:52,430 + He was a slave driver. - 340 - 00:15:09,529 --> 00:15:11,330 - college that has a - Medical Academy. + 174 + 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,950 + John Newton, he was converted, - 341 - 00:15:11,330 --> 00:15:13,309 - And we had to rely much - things are happening + 175 + 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:56,839 + I believe in a + snowstorm on he was, - 342 - 00:15:13,309 --> 00:15:15,545 - that little Academy I told - you about a while ago. + 176 + 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,329 + he was just a simple + sitting saver, - 343 - 00:15:15,545 --> 00:15:18,859 - And whenever we reached - a 100 and even a 100, + 177 + 00:07:59,329 --> 00:08:03,259 + sinner saved and he would say in, - 344 - 00:15:18,859 --> 00:15:22,550 - we took we took a holiday - when the attendance reached + 178 + 00:08:03,259 --> 00:08:05,390 + in a snowstorm, or + the NYC, the ship. - 345 - 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:26,450 - to pick a hundred two - hundred three hundred habit. + 179 + 00:08:05,390 --> 00:08:07,910 + Well now Edwin, which a - 346 - 00:15:26,450 --> 00:15:28,009 - I told that to the fact + 180 + 00:08:07,910 --> 00:08:10,280 + Christian and he was + a warm Christian. - 347 - 00:15:28,009 --> 00:15:31,175 - that told the story - I'm telling you. + 181 + 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,140 + When he came back + home, he had preached - 348 - 00:15:31,175 --> 00:15:35,930 - They would roar - every under revival. + 182 + 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:14,780 + and against a lot of page. - 349 - 00:15:35,930 --> 00:15:39,499 - And we had it Dr. Hicks them - at a commencement said, + 183 + 00:08:14,780 --> 00:08:16,279 + And they send an officer to - 350 - 00:15:39,499 --> 00:15:42,649 - We may say What we will about - the seminar Academy that + 184 + 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:18,080 + check up on what that + young fellow is doing. - 351 - 00:15:42,649 --> 00:15:43,864 - tell you that the academy + 185 + 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,825 + He's drawing people to + homes and preaching. - 352 - 00:15:43,864 --> 00:15:46,025 - emission school for - our conference, + 186 + 00:08:20,825 --> 00:08:22,494 + But he listened. He + couldn't finding - 353 - 00:15:46,025 --> 00:15:47,915 - that's where the - missionaries runoff from + 187 + 00:08:22,494 --> 00:08:24,710 + the matter that memo saying so. - 354 - 00:15:47,915 --> 00:15:51,244 - Outstanding genres all crushed - and a whole bunch of them, + 188 + 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:28,639 + Well, anyway, the Civil + War broke out and - 355 - 00:15:51,244 --> 00:15:54,034 - quite a number of anyway, - Olivia, Jocelyn, therapy, + 189 + 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:32,480 + he joined the Navy and he was - 356 - 00:15:54,034 --> 00:15:57,650 - the retinal array and so on. + 190 + 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,155 + soon became commander a + battleships or warships. - 357 - 00:15:57,650 --> 00:16:00,500 - Now the two schools - came together. + 191 + 00:08:36,155 --> 00:08:37,760 + Was it three or five that - 358 - 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,300 - 90 Put dr. Higgs jump. + 192 + 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,455 + He had commanded? Different ones. - 359 - 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:04,039 - It's just hidden between - the eyes when they, + 193 + 00:08:39,455 --> 00:08:42,184 + You've all you, all of you + have heard of monitor, - 360 - 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:05,840 - when they voted him - to be president. + 194 + 00:08:42,184 --> 00:08:43,580 + monitor the Civil War. - 361 - 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,654 - But he wasn't prepared for + 195 + 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:47,345 + The I and the Swedish + Jbuilder architect - 362 - 00:16:07,654 --> 00:16:10,205 - he said I prepared for the - patch the best I could. + 196 + 00:08:47,345 --> 00:08:49,535 + constructed it into + something new. - 363 - 00:16:10,205 --> 00:16:13,220 - I'm not the man for that. - And he broke down and cried. + 197 + 00:08:49,535 --> 00:08:51,739 + And do you remember the + name of the southern ship - 364 - 00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:15,230 - Muhammad broke down - and cried when they + 198 + 00:08:51,739 --> 00:08:53,840 + that was coming along so strong? - 365 - 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:17,120 - said he was very good. + 199 + 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,370 + I was trying to think of it today - 366 - 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:25,459 - To remember that the - Carlisle tells that, + 200 + 00:08:56,620 --> 00:08:59,540 + with our mirror and + macro micro array. - 367 - 00:16:25,459 --> 00:16:29,359 - well, anyway, he said, + 201 + 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:02,330 + And the North had nothing + to meet that with. - 368 - 00:16:29,359 --> 00:16:32,000 - I'll accept it, you pray, - and I'll accept it. + 202 + 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:03,710 + You know, here comes out to - 369 - 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,510 - And so he resigned his - find shirts and loved you. + 203 + 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,840 + the DOM monitors + sailing along there. - 370 - 00:16:35,510 --> 00:16:39,855 - Mentioned ten year end + 204 + 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,820 + I saw the picture of + it just yesterday. - 371 - 00:16:39,855 --> 00:16:41,769 - Took over the presidency + 205 + 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:10,310 + I mean, I looked it + up and I'm done. - 372 - 00:16:41,769 --> 00:16:43,135 - where we're going - to have an office. + 206 + 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:12,800 + Well, it was on that + that'll monitor. - 373 - 00:16:43,135 --> 00:16:45,444 - He said that wasn't money - and up in the treasury + 207 + 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,690 + He didn't command, but he + was on it at the time of - 374 - 00:16:45,444 --> 00:16:48,295 - of the school treasure - to go to the next town. + 208 + 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:17,585 + the battle and somebody + else commanded it. - 375 - 00:16:48,295 --> 00:16:53,500 - There were no MIT - Scratch. Oh, no. + 209 + 00:09:17,585 --> 00:09:22,460 + And that bigger ship + fire, fired and hired. - 376 - 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,080 - He before that they - had elected him to + 210 + 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:23,900 + And I don't know how much it hit, - 377 - 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,050 - financial secretary - of the conference. + 211 + 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:26,240 + but it is clenched off + of the iron there. - 378 - 00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:01,240 - So he had traveled in that way. + 212 + 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,890 + And the commander of the - 379 - 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,790 - He left the church and to - do that. And he traveled. + 213 + 00:09:27,890 --> 00:09:30,395 + monetary came right back, + and it came right back. - 380 - 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:05,470 - He visit every church conference + 214 + 00:09:30,395 --> 00:09:33,064 + And the Merrimack + didn't stay very long, - 381 - 00:17:05,470 --> 00:17:06,640 - without taking any vacation. + 215 + 00:09:33,064 --> 00:09:35,555 + decided we'd better + get out of here. - 382 - 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,335 - Took him two or three - years to do that. + 216 + 00:09:35,555 --> 00:09:37,249 + Well, I'm telling + you that to show - 383 - 00:17:08,335 --> 00:17:09,790 - And then he was that man. + 217 + 00:09:37,249 --> 00:09:41,315 + that it was right in + the middle of things. - 384 - 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:11,529 - He was General Secretary for + 218 + 00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:44,315 + And he commanded + several battleships. - 385 - 00:17:11,529 --> 00:17:14,890 - the conference when he was - called to be president. + 219 + 00:09:44,315 --> 00:09:46,999 + But, you know, there's + something deep in his heart - 386 - 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:16,780 - But he was up there in - Duluth and he went to D, + 220 + 00:09:46,999 --> 00:09:50,060 + that was more interesting + than the Navy. - 387 - 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:18,655 - said that I'm not - prepared for this, + 221 + 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:52,265 + Or whenever the + accretion that way. - 388 - 00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:22,470 - but he accepted if he says - you pray and we'll go ahead. + 222 + 00:09:52,265 --> 00:09:54,860 + So he went to the high + commander commoner, - 389 - 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:25,009 - And so he started with - nothing you might say + 223 + 00:09:54,860 --> 00:09:57,575 + whoever that top was, an resign. - 390 - 00:17:25,009 --> 00:17:28,565 - except the grace of God - is fake and are paid. + 224 + 00:09:57,575 --> 00:09:59,510 + And you said you're + fooling shade, can you? - 391 - 00:17:28,565 --> 00:17:31,160 - But he started to raise money. + 225 + 00:09:59,510 --> 00:10:01,999 + Foolish? You've got + everything that it - 392 - 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,380 - Oh yes, they bought the campus on + 226 + 00:10:01,999 --> 00:10:05,150 + takes to be a commander + battleship than the Navy, - 393 - 00:17:33,380 --> 00:17:38,000 - smelling six acres - to square blocks. + 227 + 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:07,505 + you'll become a common + or do you know that? + + 228 + 00:10:07,505 --> 00:10:09,350 + Yes. That may be + true, that atrium, - 394 - 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,425 - They're not, they're - oblong though. + 229 + 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:10,954 + but I have a higher calling - 395 - 00:17:39,425 --> 00:17:42,260 - And we could have gotten and - we've got one for nothing. + 230 + 00:10:10,954 --> 00:10:12,830 + something higher fire descended, - 396 - 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:44,075 - I think about the other one. + 231 + 00:10:12,830 --> 00:10:17,130 + as we say somewhat + poetically. And he resign. - 397 - 00:17:44,075 --> 00:17:46,310 - And the real estate man + 232 + 00:10:17,230 --> 00:10:19,760 + And then increasingly he felt - 398 - 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:47,870 - said you can have - the third one too, + 233 + 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,680 + the need should be a training. - 399 - 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:49,520 - if you want to for a low price. + 234 + 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,055 + Swedish pastures came + from Sweden to America. - 400 - 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,155 - And they said, Oh, we'll - never need anymore. + 235 + 00:10:25,055 --> 00:10:26,810 + And as long as + everything was Swedish, - 401 - 00:17:51,155 --> 00:17:53,240 - Or some of the board - that he thought that, + 236 + 00:10:26,810 --> 00:10:28,445 + they got along pretty good. - 402 - 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,130 - you know how lack of vision. + 237 + 00:10:28,445 --> 00:10:30,500 + But it became worse and - 403 - 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:56,480 - But there were five - men in their way. + 238 + 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:34,685 + worse and some of them + didn't have much training. - 404 - 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,030 - They weren't used to - this thing and show. + 239 + 00:10:34,685 --> 00:10:37,235 + So there was a decision + under God to start - 405 - 00:17:59,030 --> 00:18:00,259 - They bought that camp it. But I + 240 + 00:10:37,235 --> 00:10:41,190 + a Swedish Baptist + seminary in Chicago. - 406 - 00:18:00,259 --> 00:18:01,760 - landed right on his own board. + 241 + 00:10:41,290 --> 00:10:44,540 + And you've heard many times, - 407 - 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,159 - He had Those are - fighting that thing, + 242 + 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:45,980 + I suppose at Founders Week, - 408 - 00:18:04,159 --> 00:18:06,889 - but it went through and + 243 + 00:10:45,980 --> 00:10:48,679 + that he started with one student, - 409 - 00:18:06,889 --> 00:18:08,599 - then he's tried to raise - money for the seminary, + 244 + 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,725 + and that student was silly. - 410 - 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:11,270 - that little seminary that's - over there in that building. + 245 + 00:10:51,725 --> 00:10:53,690 + And at Founders Week that night, - 411 - 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:13,699 - They raised, I think - there's $30 thousand + 246 + 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:55,160 + and there was a dedication - 412 - 00:18:13,699 --> 00:18:16,070 - had cosh and it is - defined building. + 247 + 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,290 + that was a Canvas symbol + of the history of - 413 - 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:18,349 - And then and then we show + 248 + 00:10:57,290 --> 00:11:00,050 + our school and the + kneeling in prayer - 414 - 00:18:18,349 --> 00:18:20,884 - the conference sold - to a real estate man, + 249 + 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:03,380 + there and so on versus Trump. - 415 - 00:18:20,884 --> 00:18:24,185 - that little Academy - for $20 thousand. + 250 + 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:04,520 + They're kind of a leather is - 416 - 00:18:24,185 --> 00:18:27,395 - That transgender conference - got just see from + 251 + 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,264 + there you had one student for - 417 - 00:18:27,395 --> 00:18:31,880 - Minnesota and from this - end of the line 20 cow. + 252 + 00:11:07,264 --> 00:11:11,840 + a whole semester and + then another one came. - 418 - 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,800 - And I think that that's right. + 253 + 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,090 + I don't remember his + name. Maybe you do. - 419 - 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,540 - And then they raised - money among the church. + 254 + 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:17,135 + Shall we had two students + that first year, - 420 - 00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:36,589 - It's gotta be that - through SHA1 and + 255 + 00:11:17,135 --> 00:11:20,555 + but the whole thing + was a great struggle. - 421 - 00:18:36,589 --> 00:18:37,790 - raise money for the new seminary. + 256 + 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:23,810 + The American leaders + were very generous to - 422 - 00:18:37,790 --> 00:18:40,009 - And I may have one of our own and + 257 + 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:26,060 + the Swedes that I was - 423 - 00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:42,695 - we have going to have - the building of our own. + 258 + 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,030 + showing university for + awhile in the seminary. - 424 - 00:18:42,695 --> 00:18:45,050 - But when we solely - academy building, + 259 + 00:11:29,030 --> 00:11:32,540 + I was anxious for orientation + and I enjoyed it very much. - 425 - 00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:47,210 - they said know what wedged - Academy gonna be next year. + 260 + 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:36,650 + But I was in the class + of of the son of one of - 426 - 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:50,390 - This is 19141915, whereas Academy + 261 + 00:11:36,650 --> 00:11:43,085 + the Baptists leadership + at the dais, good speed. - 427 - 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:54,649 - going to go to and so the + 262 + 00:11:43,085 --> 00:11:44,810 + Dr. good speed was one of - 428 - 00:18:54,649 --> 00:18:56,869 - graciously arranged this way + 263 + 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:47,300 + the leaders of the American + Baptist that help. + + 264 + 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:48,844 + And there were other + men like that. - 429 - 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,569 - that the academy - could have clashing + 265 + 00:11:48,844 --> 00:11:50,780 + >> And there were times when he - 430 - 00:18:59,569 --> 00:19:03,380 - that fore noon and + 266 + 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:51,860 + had been married an American - 431 - 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:04,939 - their seminar could - have theirs in + 267 + 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:54,740 + girl and she wasn't too + interested in Swedish work, - 432 - 00:19:04,939 --> 00:19:08,510 - the afternoon and day - that went through. + 268 + 00:11:54,740 --> 00:11:57,935 + but she was gracious and + she didn't run away. - 433 - 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:10,715 - And we did that for two years. + 269 + 00:11:57,935 --> 00:11:59,450 + But, you know, it was difficult - 434 - 00:19:10,715 --> 00:19:12,920 - I think there's two - year, something + 270 + 00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:01,310 + for her from her standpoint. - 435 - 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,765 - like that, maybe a little more. + 271 + 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:03,410 + And sometimes it didn't + have bread to eat. - 436 - 00:19:14,765 --> 00:19:16,280 - My brother called me on the phone + 272 + 00:12:03,410 --> 00:12:06,320 + And you can hear + saying any wife would. - 437 - 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,810 - the other day and - he should Henry, + 273 + 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,105 + Now, why did you leave the Navy? - 438 - 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:20,210 - do you know that - this is a day that + 274 + 00:12:08,105 --> 00:12:09,695 + You were getting a big salary - 439 - 00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:24,875 - nine of the ninth of - May when we moved + 275 + 00:12:09,695 --> 00:12:10,880 + and here we're struggling at - 440 - 00:19:24,875 --> 00:19:26,764 - after the college - building was really + 276 + 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,960 + all and nobody seems to - 441 - 00:19:26,764 --> 00:19:28,910 - the big academy - building was put up. + 277 + 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,985 + care whether anything + happens or not. - 442 - 00:19:28,910 --> 00:19:30,305 - Then when that was finished. + 278 + 00:12:13,985 --> 00:12:18,620 + We can imagine or saying + that and that was true. - 443 - 00:19:30,305 --> 00:19:31,970 - And we can move from - the seminar with + 279 + 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:20,329 + And you've read + wreckage, I suppose, - 444 - 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:34,970 - all our panel shelves and things. + 280 + 00:12:20,329 --> 00:12:22,175 + where there was just + about starving in it. - 445 - 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:36,860 - And all the students - jumped into it as + 281 + 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:25,235 + That came some money + on the school. - 446 - 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:38,720 - a holiday to carry overhaul + 282 + 00:12:25,235 --> 00:12:27,815 + That came a few more + students all the time. - 447 - 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,040 - the magnificent furniture - to that new building, + 283 + 00:12:27,815 --> 00:12:30,900 + Very few though. + And the thing went, - 448 - 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,764 - three story building, + 284 + 00:12:30,909 --> 00:12:35,540 + >> and you may have read in - 449 - 00:19:44,764 --> 00:19:47,255 - which had been the college - building now for years. + 285 + 00:12:35,540 --> 00:12:37,099 + seminary records here of - 450 - 00:19:47,255 --> 00:19:50,645 - It was a nine the MAY - matrices celebration + 286 + 00:12:37,099 --> 00:12:40,250 + eight Winship sort of + rules that he drew up. - 451 - 00:19:50,645 --> 00:19:55,415 - and ninth of May, 1916 or 17. + 287 + 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:41,765 + Poor association there. - 452 - 00:19:55,415 --> 00:19:57,410 - But you haven't oftentime + 288 + 00:12:41,765 --> 00:12:45,215 + You remembered what one + rule was the nicest of all. - 453 - 00:19:57,410 --> 00:19:59,195 - getting the money for - that colleague building? + 289 + 00:12:45,215 --> 00:12:46,640 + Well, anyway, it's this. - 454 - 00:19:59,195 --> 00:20:01,430 - I visited, I was just a teacher. + 290 + 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,820 + He said this is the rule + here in the seminar. - 455 - 00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:04,430 - I visited 50 churches one summer, + 291 + 00:12:49,820 --> 00:12:51,979 + We're breathing, + nobody has high Lord, - 456 - 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:06,650 - among those who - were raising money. + 292 + 00:12:51,979 --> 00:12:53,315 + nobody has King, - 457 - 00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:11,449 - I visited 50 churches and next - summer and hot, you know, + 293 + 00:12:53,315 --> 00:12:55,940 + everybody has a brother + of everybody else. - 458 - 00:20:11,449 --> 00:20:13,280 - I had 5-stage to visit churches, + 294 + 00:12:55,940 --> 00:12:58,294 + And we're working + together and the Lord - 459 - 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,629 - him and I'd be on + 295 + 00:12:58,294 --> 00:13:01,084 + is our Lord and we are, - 460 - 00:20:14,629 --> 00:20:16,399 - those hot branch lines and dust + 296 + 00:13:01,084 --> 00:13:04,835 + is whether children + saw that irregular. - 461 - 00:20:16,399 --> 00:20:18,230 - coming in through - the open window. + 297 + 00:13:04,835 --> 00:13:06,529 + And that's one of the foundation - 462 - 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:20,585 - But sort of hace - you wanted it open. + 298 + 00:13:06,529 --> 00:13:08,435 + stones that he started with. - 463 - 00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:22,849 - And then I had a lecture I + 299 + 00:13:08,435 --> 00:13:10,610 + And but it's just so difficult. - 464 - 00:20:22,849 --> 00:20:25,820 - gave everywhere in three, - the three I'd men. + 300 + 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:11,689 + There were times when there was + + 301 + 00:13:11,689 --> 00:13:13,460 + you just had to be discouraged. - 465 - 00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:31,625 - But either three i this i - this i this, i spirit July. + 302 + 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,830 + One time I think you + wrote his resignation. - 466 - 00:20:31,625 --> 00:20:33,710 - And they wonder about - that. I'd be at three. + 303 + 00:13:15,830 --> 00:13:19,475 + Many just didn't + descended and so on. - 467 - 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:35,134 - I met one man, + 304 + 00:13:19,475 --> 00:13:23,345 + And then his health broke down. - 468 - 00:20:35,134 --> 00:20:36,725 - officer the war Abidjan, + 305 + 00:13:23,345 --> 00:13:25,714 + Now I mentioned three tires, - 469 - 00:20:36,725 --> 00:20:38,449 - and he said, what's - that fellow lecturing + 306 + 00:13:25,714 --> 00:13:28,445 + fire when he converted + in the dream. - 470 - 00:20:38,449 --> 00:20:39,920 - on his yet communism or shopping? + 307 + 00:13:28,445 --> 00:13:31,804 + And the fire of the Civil War, - 471 - 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,295 - So he goes said, you though, + 308 + 00:13:31,804 --> 00:13:34,309 + which he went to, and + then the Chicago Fire, - 472 - 00:20:43,295 --> 00:20:46,190 - hopefully I've met, but I got so + 309 + 00:13:34,309 --> 00:13:36,619 + just when they gotta + going a little bit than - 473 - 00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:49,264 - tired and after the service + 310 + 00:13:36,619 --> 00:13:39,545 + the Great Chicago Fire + broke out and that reside, - 474 - 00:20:49,264 --> 00:20:51,019 - stay with the pastor and he + 311 + 00:13:39,545 --> 00:13:41,029 + and everybody thought that, that - 475 - 00:20:51,019 --> 00:20:53,030 - never saw anybody really - ill. And so you'd like + 312 + 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:42,710 + in Chicago, Imodium sank. - 476 - 00:20:53,030 --> 00:20:55,460 - to talk to me robots - and we'd have + 313 + 00:13:42,710 --> 00:13:43,924 + He stood on the steps of - 477 - 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,010 - coffee that I couldn't - go to sleep very + 314 + 00:13:43,924 --> 00:13:46,640 + the old Moody Church, + seeing the flames. - 478 - 00:20:58,010 --> 00:21:00,920 - well after the - coffee and the next + 315 + 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,064 + And one set to the other, - 479 - 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,265 - morning at another train - through the dust storms. + 316 + 00:13:48,064 --> 00:13:50,060 + this bounce, the destruction. - 480 - 00:21:04,265 --> 00:21:06,245 - And I've aged 50 churches. + 317 + 00:13:50,060 --> 00:13:53,145 + Chicago Moody had assembled + some things here, - 481 - 00:21:06,245 --> 00:21:08,790 - I sang a solo. + 318 + 00:13:53,145 --> 00:13:54,949 + but no, they said, Ed, can, - 482 - 00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:13,325 - It was Swedish, so yeah, - it's a beautiful thing. + 319 + 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:57,770 + I think that it green, - 483 - 00:21:13,325 --> 00:21:15,650 - People way, hey, the - blood 10-year Yes. + 320 + 00:13:57,770 --> 00:14:00,020 + got together some things - 484 - 00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:17,390 - Step and leaked and T police + 321 + 00:14:00,020 --> 00:14:02,825 + to know what you want + to put a signal. - 485 - 00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:19,279 - that tailored in looking into + 322 + 00:14:02,825 --> 00:14:05,419 + And then he was going + across the bridge and or - 486 - 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,009 - your Google stuff akin or + 323 + 00:14:05,419 --> 00:14:08,720 + the Chicago River fire, + we're following along. - 487 - 00:21:22,009 --> 00:21:25,820 - that they telephoned - Mr. Ben translate. + 324 + 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,899 + And finally he got across + time that wouldn't - 488 - 00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:28,339 - We're journeying - through on the way to + 325 + 00:14:11,899 --> 00:14:14,270 + have whichever you had + to climb through potion, - 489 - 00:21:28,339 --> 00:21:31,190 - happiness majorly and depth. + 326 + 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:16,250 + whatever it was it set up there. - 490 - 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:33,710 - And there's one verse - step, might shoot + 327 + 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:17,720 + You finally got to + the other side. - 491 - 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:35,840 - what I knew now that + 328 + 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,585 + You look me a heads + up, their own opinion. - 492 - 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,300 - my chute wouldn't so new - that I was traveling with, + 329 + 00:14:20,585 --> 00:14:25,160 + Just rags or my telework + said that you saved - 493 - 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:39,920 - you know, I guess I give it gives + 330 + 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:31,624 + that spirits a lesson + for us all that well, - 494 - 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,095 - a second shoot anyway - and which ones are good? + 331 + 00:14:31,624 --> 00:14:37,309 + that was the Alexis a grid + he has helped broke down - 495 - 00:21:42,095 --> 00:21:44,690 - And one verses to say it would + 332 + 00:14:37,309 --> 00:14:43,760 + and he resigned and + he went out west. - 496 - 00:21:44,690 --> 00:21:47,915 - be kind of bought up at - Barnard good in years, + 333 + 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,709 + And it's interesting now - 497 - 00:21:47,915 --> 00:21:49,610 - but you may not see it. + 334 + 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:47,330 + he's starting to + photographing gallery. - 498 - 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:51,560 - An snake, you see it. + 335 + 00:14:47,330 --> 00:14:49,700 + They're picking pictures, + photographs from Sony. - 499 - 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,260 - And new blood means respect - bought out your hot. + 336 + 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:54,335 + I do something. His son + became a great sports writer. + + 337 + 00:14:54,335 --> 00:14:59,400 + His son may have heard + that and all of that. - 500 - 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:57,380 - I sit Mitchum, look at - me and you're Watson. + 338 + 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:04,820 + Well then the next one that + they call Can you tell us - 501 - 00:21:57,380 --> 00:21:59,839 - This was an in-depth - look at me and + 339 + 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:09,440 + more about is family + like his wife? - 502 - 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:02,780 - you wonder how it could be - that he's a breadth of drugs. + 340 + 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,300 + Anything more? You + mentioned her or children? - 503 - 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:04,699 - But listen, you haven't seen + 341 + 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:17,810 + How many children? + I I I'm not sure. - 504 - 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:06,770 - the real bribe to suit the width. + 342 + 00:15:17,810 --> 00:15:19,400 + I'm sorry. - 505 - 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:07,880 - This is just about traveling + 343 + 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,170 + Mj Ostrom, - 506 - 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,619 - suit and fit it in because I was + 344 + 00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:22,700 + who wrote the lives of eight - 507 - 00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:13,340 - traveling and I remember they'd - little rags here. Wagner, + 345 + 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:24,980 + when it's in your + library, you know that. - 508 - 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:19,100 - second suit number two - maybe would be somehow, + 346 + 00:15:24,980 --> 00:15:27,380 + And then if you I know + you don't have much time, - 509 - 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:23,719 - well, so we raise the money - for the college building, + 347 + 00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:28,970 + you can do everything, but that's - 510 - 00:22:23,719 --> 00:22:25,430 - which was the academy billing. + 348 + 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,040 + a complete story of + all the details. - 511 - 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:27,500 - And at o we weren't proud. + 349 + 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,820 + And they were so crowded + per room that the - 512 - 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,884 - There's gymnasium and - they actually food + 350 + 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:36,800 + little boy now I think + that there's all - 513 - 00:22:29,884 --> 00:22:33,560 - shop that heating up - and that was cooking. + 351 + 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,780 + these by slip with the student. - 514 - 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,699 - To teach cooking, there was + 352 + 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:40,505 + When your student all strung, - 515 - 00:22:34,699 --> 00:22:37,130 - a business department - up on the third floor, + 353 + 00:15:40,505 --> 00:15:43,160 + he left the minister sometime + and went into stake. - 516 - 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:40,910 - and I had the English - department all the time all + 354 + 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,710 + Weren't hostile. + Very wonderful man. - 517 - 00:22:40,910 --> 00:22:42,680 - through the years until I went + 355 + 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:47,240 + He wrote histories and churches. - 518 - 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,540 - to Chicago, I'm sure was patched. + 356 + 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,319 + And that Dr. Adrian said + to Mr. Austin Student, - 519 - 00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:45,860 - Then it came back. It got + 357 + 00:15:51,319 --> 00:15:52,639 + You said knife, he + doesn't behave, - 520 - 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:49,729 - a little better job I + 358 + 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,540 + you just give him a spanking + is actually don't hesitate. - 521 - 00:22:49,729 --> 00:22:54,650 - have to do is live - and on this side, + 359 + 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:58,069 + He said When I looked into - 522 - 00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:56,220 - being careless. And on the other, + 360 + 00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:59,989 + the blue eyes or that boy I could - 523 - 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:59,620 - another aspect, I - haven't gotten in + 361 + 00:15:59,989 --> 00:16:02,480 + inspect it will consider - 524 - 00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:06,625 - private plenty to go - to Chicago in 191938. + 362 + 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,655 + that story. I heard + him tell that. - 525 - 00:23:06,625 --> 00:23:09,610 - I had been head of the - English department touches. + 363 + 00:16:04,655 --> 00:16:06,020 + But anyway, she was just said - 526 - 00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:14,380 - It was from 1910 to 1938. + 364 + 00:16:06,020 --> 00:16:09,649 + an American edition + and sympathy there, - 527 - 00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:16,820 - How long? How many? + 365 + 00:16:09,649 --> 00:16:10,730 + there were a little + bit lack of it. - 528 - 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,570 - 28 years. 28 years. + 366 + 00:16:10,730 --> 00:16:12,830 + Although she was + wonderful in a way - 529 - 00:23:19,570 --> 00:23:22,220 - And then we went to Chicago. + 367 + 00:16:12,830 --> 00:16:16,144 + that now it was not + strong physically, - 530 - 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:25,450 - We were riding along their - family and their tent, + 368 + 00:16:16,144 --> 00:16:18,170 + as we understand, he had - 531 - 00:23:25,450 --> 00:23:27,219 - had negotiations back and forth, + 369 + 00:16:18,170 --> 00:16:20,615 + struggled through so + much, so many hardships. - 532 - 00:23:27,219 --> 00:23:29,830 - you know, but I thought - what am I doing? + 370 + 00:16:20,615 --> 00:16:23,105 + And that's a long story + by itself, of course. - 533 - 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:31,750 - Runtime, I do, what am I getting? + 371 + 00:16:23,105 --> 00:16:24,605 + And then the Civil War - 534 - 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:34,120 - Entry go down. - Chicago man told me. + 372 + 00:16:24,605 --> 00:16:26,390 + and then the Chicago + Fire and all of that. - 535 - 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,730 - He said, why don't you go to - Africa and don't go down? + 373 + 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:28,850 + The throne in together + went through that. - 536 - 00:23:36,730 --> 00:23:38,860 - They then Nest head of Chicago + 374 + 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:31,340 + And then he has + helped wrote down and - 537 - 00:23:38,860 --> 00:23:40,390 - Well, don't you beaver ambitious? + 375 + 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:34,730 + he went west Oakland, California. - 538 - 00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:42,549 - I said yeah, but - agouti applicant, + 376 + 00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:36,394 + John output Ericsson, - 539 - 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:43,720 - he said, don't do that. + 377 + 00:16:36,394 --> 00:16:39,050 + which Pashto there at the + time, time of his death. - 540 - 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,220 - But we had a - wonderful time there. + 378 + 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:41,674 + On No, he was brought - 541 - 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:46,780 - We did have a lot - of time in Chicago, + 379 + 00:16:41,674 --> 00:16:43,100 + back across the country to - 542 - 00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:48,385 - three years and three months. + 380 + 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:44,660 + a general conference in Chicago. - 543 - 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:51,130 - And then they were going - to elect a president. + 381 + 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:47,120 + That's the last time he + appeared. When was that? - 544 - 00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:54,280 - And a bachelor's had the - inductor vectors editor. + 382 + 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:54,930 + Well, 9019191, night. - 545 - 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,275 - And you should get - your name on there. + 383 + 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:57,800 + We came to a peak of - 546 - 00:23:56,275 --> 00:23:58,690 - Know my name on there. + 384 + 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:05,645 + Kansas in nineteen hundred + nineteen hundred or 191. - 547 - 00:23:58,690 --> 00:24:02,455 - You know, I can I can Xavier. + 385 + 00:17:05,645 --> 00:17:10,220 + He moved to California in about + 1888 or and that's right? - 548 - 00:24:02,455 --> 00:24:05,064 - And anyway well, anyway, + 386 + 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:13,579 + Yes. Yeah. Because at + the turn of the decade, - 549 - 00:24:05,064 --> 00:24:10,974 - it turned out that way and - the whole board could go, + 387 + 00:17:13,579 --> 00:17:15,110 + Dr. logger Grant took over. - 550 - 00:24:10,974 --> 00:24:12,400 - not only the executive board, + 388 + 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:16,895 + Yes. I remember that gate. - 551 - 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,680 - but the whole board of - the conference tool. + 389 + 00:17:16,895 --> 00:17:18,890 + And I figure let me tell + you something do check. - 552 - 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:23,140 - And so it was in where they - had the catherine 1910191940 + 390 + 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:21,230 + Said to my wife. I uncheck + on this on myself. - 553 - 00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:29,050 - comprehension that suddenly - erupt cord yet men and oh, + 391 + 00:17:21,230 --> 00:17:24,030 + So humbling to understand. - 554 - 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:30,909 - my dean appointment, Daniel, + 392 + 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:26,285 + But I don't nobody has children. - 555 - 00:24:30,909 --> 00:24:32,320 - he was the other candidate. + 393 + 00:17:26,285 --> 00:17:28,909 + I thought that boy told us - 556 - 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,300 - And then I went to Canada. + 394 + 00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:33,335 + about they call + luxuriant, who, which he? - 557 - 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,355 - She's never have - to never happened. + 395 + 00:17:33,335 --> 00:17:36,905 + Well, he was a scholar from + Uppsala University in Sweden. - 558 - 00:24:36,355 --> 00:24:43,195 - But do he'd been a lovely - tell him that Well, + 396 + 00:17:36,905 --> 00:17:39,230 + The university, I + suppose you could say. - 559 - 00:24:43,195 --> 00:24:45,760 - I had a kind of - advantage now, you know, + 397 + 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:43,025 + And he was somehow + related to royal blood. - 560 - 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,259 - you're kind of I thought B, + 398 + 00:17:43,025 --> 00:17:44,389 + That's all we'll + say about that will - 561 - 00:24:47,259 --> 00:24:48,730 - all right, the Lord - wanted me do it. + 399 + 00:17:44,389 --> 00:17:46,535 + reunite related to royal blood. - 562 - 00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:51,880 - I wouldn't proud and I - thought if that's what you're + 400 + 00:17:46,535 --> 00:17:50,750 + And it resembled hitting. + Firstname is gusto. - 563 - 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,374 - one my wife and praying about it + 401 + 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:53,029 + And King gusto, they + named him got started - 564 - 00:24:53,374 --> 00:24:55,570 - and it's alright either way. + 402 + 00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:56,780 + because he's released + him there. I suppose. - 565 - 00:24:55,570 --> 00:24:57,100 - But I'm scared, scared. + 403 + 00:17:56,780 --> 00:17:59,345 + Atlas, true, you don't + want to spell that out, - 566 - 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,670 - You know, Carlos Caribbean - gave us a good buddy. + 404 + 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,669 + but he, he said, - 567 - 00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:04,215 - Was going to humble - little point but a URI. + 405 + 00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:03,410 + you know, meaning spiritually. - 568 - 00:25:04,215 --> 00:25:08,674 - And so five, Well, + 406 + 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:05,300 + He said to one of the classes - 569 - 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,990 - I was I was chairman - of the ministers show. + 407 + 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,764 + and one of the seven students, - 570 - 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:13,985 - I was on the platform - all that time issue. + 408 + 00:18:06,764 --> 00:18:08,900 + and I've been in + his class, but he - 571 - 00:25:13,985 --> 00:25:16,250 - And then I was vice chairman - of the kind of franchises. + 409 + 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,720 + said he was telling about it's + wonderful to be in Christ. - 572 - 00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:18,155 - And he's told me - when they say it. + 410 + 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,535 + It's wonderful to + be a child of God. - 573 - 00:25:18,155 --> 00:25:20,479 - But of course he knew - his anyway and they + 411 + 00:18:13,535 --> 00:18:15,545 + It's wonderful to have + him in our heart. - 574 - 00:25:20,479 --> 00:25:23,780 - decided who resolution not - to discuss either one. + 412 + 00:18:15,545 --> 00:18:18,695 + And he said, Dick cone and + a blue with the desktop. - 575 - 00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:28,280 - Ohmic compare notes at all - and they're getting away. + 413 + 00:18:18,695 --> 00:18:22,490 + Although there's King's blood + in these veins coursing, - 576 - 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,739 - Well then that, ok, + 414 + 00:18:22,490 --> 00:18:26,270 + you said, well that was that + he met spirit to love it. - 577 - 00:25:30,739 --> 00:25:33,320 - then they're going to - vote and add to it. + 415 + 00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:28,235 + The boys thought those + who knew about it. - 578 - 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,930 - And I went down head and - make a call to true basement + 416 + 00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:30,245 + But he had a wonderful mother - 579 - 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:40,170 - left again talking - 70 hooves trimmed. + 417 + 00:18:30,245 --> 00:18:32,405 + and she was a wonderful mother. - 580 - 00:25:41,470 --> 00:25:46,220 - But we went to got cool though. + 418 + 00:18:32,405 --> 00:18:35,149 + Storage that test + bring out, you know, - 581 - 00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:48,019 - But then I thought, well, I think + 419 + 00:18:35,149 --> 00:18:38,450 + and we've asked about that. - 582 - 00:25:48,019 --> 00:25:49,640 - that was definitely - in the voting. + 420 + 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,879 + Well, I tell this + incident now you - 583 - 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,500 - But anyway, I was elected and + 421 + 00:18:40,879 --> 00:18:44,400 + forgive photographer myself, + I never do anything. - 584 - 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,200 - the first one to hit me was - the chairman of the board. + 422 + 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:50,420 + When we run the farm eggs + for $0.05 a dozen we sold. - 585 - 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,549 - He says, when big, + 423 + 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:52,969 + And my mother would sell eggs and - 586 - 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:58,205 - congratulations, you're - the one who repaid. + 424 + 00:18:52,969 --> 00:18:56,270 + butter and by calico + and coffee and sugar. - 587 - 00:25:58,205 --> 00:26:00,289 - And the next one was o Mark + 425 + 00:18:56,270 --> 00:19:00,079 + Now that's the depression + days of the nineties. And - 588 - 00:26:00,289 --> 00:26:02,210 - himself. He rushed over to me. + 426 + 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,674 + OK, again, when he + came to America, - 589 - 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:04,490 - Eugenic antigen grabbed - my hand and she says, + 427 + 00:19:02,674 --> 00:19:04,445 + I remember I was + talking about this - 590 - 00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:07,009 - Congratulations, I'm - glad you're like, well, + 428 + 00:19:04,445 --> 00:19:06,709 + and he said he wanted + to visit the churches, - 591 - 00:26:07,009 --> 00:26:08,239 - that spirit, that spirit on + 429 + 00:19:06,709 --> 00:19:08,150 + Swedish churches in America. - 592 - 00:26:08,239 --> 00:26:12,380 - McDonald's had in cooperation. + 430 + 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:10,475 + There were scattered from + coast to coast by that time. - 593 - 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:14,180 - Then he was passionate - Los Angeles. + 431 + 00:19:10,475 --> 00:19:12,920 + And he was down to + Kansas and he said, - 594 - 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:17,510 - Then we called him to come as - professor to the seminary. + 432 + 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,960 + Oh, it was terribly + warm in Kansas. - 595 - 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:20,180 - And then when Dr. - Carlson patched away + 433 + 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,329 + I came into a room, there's + a guest and I said, - 596 - 00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:24,109 - Carnegie Carlson we - caught in the board, + 434 + 00:19:17,329 --> 00:19:19,729 + Could I have a drink + of water is kind of - 597 - 00:26:24,109 --> 00:26:25,310 - caught him as dean. + 435 + 00:19:19,729 --> 00:19:23,795 + our polytope and the Kaddish + violence he told them. - 598 - 00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:26,480 - So he would deem the seven-year, + 436 + 00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:27,979 + But the dates, I figure this way, - 599 - 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,415 - I think types in seven years. + 437 + 00:19:27,979 --> 00:19:29,719 + if you'll forgive me not mother - 600 - 00:26:28,415 --> 00:26:33,060 - And he's still a wonderful - fellow. Dino mark. + 438 + 00:19:29,719 --> 00:19:31,549 + sent he was going to come + in at the station at - 601 - 00:26:34,270 --> 00:26:37,069 - Well, Higgs Jim took the job and + 439 + 00:19:31,549 --> 00:19:33,800 + whatever hill town lottery grant - 602 - 00:26:37,069 --> 00:26:38,869 - interest and histories - and difficult job, + 440 + 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,630 + and coming out of our + little church there. - 603 - 00:26:38,869 --> 00:26:42,395 - but he carried on and he won - out and the Lord used him. + 441 + 00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:38,780 + And my mother and father sent + Albert, That's a seconds, - 604 - 00:26:42,395 --> 00:26:49,970 - And that's a picture - of depression. + 442 + 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:40,159 + and he was Nixon on older to - 605 - 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:52,280 - Girls were difficult - to your Soyuz. + 443 + 00:19:40,159 --> 00:19:42,515 + my brother Alfred + hits. You know, AJ - 606 - 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,010 - And now the - Depression, of course, + 444 + 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:45,155 + I was five, I + figured occupy them. - 607 - 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:58,130 - money went far, - money went very far. + 445 + 00:19:45,155 --> 00:19:47,599 + And she sent us and + father sent to of - 608 - 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:00,080 - My wife came home from - the grocery store there + 446 + 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:50,960 + course to meet logger + grin at the sub tree. - 609 - 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,255 - and does Israel - near where we live. + 447 + 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,640 + I mean, little country + trained, you know, - 610 - 00:27:02,255 --> 00:27:04,730 - And I print and she - shady, so cheap. + 448 + 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,300 + and she gave us several + extra sale and she said, - 611 - 00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:06,710 - I'm ashamed she should - it showed cheap. + 449 + 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:57,769 + now you voice can have - 612 - 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,480 - I'm ashamed. She mentioned + 450 + 00:19:57,769 --> 00:20:00,350 + this egg to sell + and buy candy for. - 613 - 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,370 - only patient-level - money for everything. + 451 + 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:01,850 + Get $0.05 for genome. - 614 - 00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:13,249 - Depression. And we Dr. Actium + 452 + 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:04,235 + And so we bought candy for $0.05. - 615 - 00:27:13,249 --> 00:27:15,680 - called The faculty - together and you said, + 453 + 00:20:04,235 --> 00:20:09,020 + Well, when we got to the station, - 616 - 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,850 - now I don't know what to do. + 454 + 00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:10,700 + we got to town, we + would got Dr. law, - 617 - 00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:18,560 - Issue. I've always had some hope + 455 + 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:17,360 + given he was a very stately + person and dignity scholar. - 618 - 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,570 - before, but I haven't any more. + 456 + 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,985 + And in Sweden, you know, + there's a great Git. - 619 - 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:23,690 - But I don't see you way - out or we had pram eating. + 457 + 00:20:19,985 --> 00:20:25,080 + You don't say you, they say + him use the third person. - 620 - 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:26,240 - Some students had prior mean - each with prayer meeting. + 458 + 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:32,240 + They use it for a little + bit about the new this. - 621 - 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,830 - And then we're going to drop up + 459 + 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,260 + He wants a glass of water. - 622 - 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:30,245 - the prepare to our department. + 460 + 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,974 + That means, you + know, third-person - 623 - 00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:32,974 - Now the junior - colleagues came in, + 461 + 00:20:35,974 --> 00:20:39,050 + menu's done, I remember. - 624 - 00:27:32,974 --> 00:27:35,990 - but the Lord land and - we got kept going. + 462 + 00:20:39,050 --> 00:20:41,670 + And with him was August + Johnson, who was a missionary. - 625 - 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:37,760 - Then the junior - colleague Justice, + 463 + 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:44,359 + Went around or salary just + helping the poor farmers in - 626 - 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,010 - there was a need for the - Academy of those days. + 464 + 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,419 + Western Kansas and getting - 627 - 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:43,310 - There now became that same - need for the junior college. + 465 + 00:20:47,419 --> 00:20:49,415 + what he got a brother in + Chicago. We helped him. - 628 - 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:47,405 - The same need obtained - for the junior college + 466 + 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:50,660 + He's a tailored therapy, - 629 - 00:27:47,405 --> 00:27:53,045 - because now they had high - schools that they didn't have. + 467 + 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:53,555 + but he was in that week + two when we met him. - 630 - 00:27:53,045 --> 00:27:55,325 - He's got used to having. + 468 + 00:20:53,555 --> 00:20:56,900 + And I was I was - 631 - 00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:58,054 - So they didn't go to - high school and then + 469 + 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:58,700 + five years old and I have - 632 - 00:27:58,054 --> 00:28:01,580 - Junior College took care + 470 + 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,890 + had the time and forgive + me for saying this, - 633 - 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,260 - of the first two - years of college. + 471 + 00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,740 + but that little boy that - 634 - 00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:05,164 - And then after having that, + 472 + 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:06,935 + I think is spring spring + bucket, we call it. - 635 - 00:28:05,164 --> 00:28:08,120 - that started got - going good in 1933. + 473 + 00:21:06,935 --> 00:21:09,140 + I was privileged to come to - 636 - 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:12,410 - And then Dino Dean - Carlson was GUI, + 474 + 00:21:09,140 --> 00:21:11,150 + the same school where - 637 - 00:28:12,410 --> 00:28:14,255 - some marvelous hello Scott it. + 475 + 00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:13,745 + Dr. long range to be the + dean of the seminary. - 638 - 00:28:14,255 --> 00:28:17,180 - He was a history teacher, - but you can't make KBD. + 476 + 00:21:13,745 --> 00:21:15,640 + We never know when + you see a little boy, - 639 - 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:18,499 - And he had the confidence of + 477 + 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,760 + they're all better than I am. - 640 - 00:28:18,499 --> 00:28:21,335 - the University of Minnesota - and he was marvelous. + 478 + 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,710 + And there's segments, you + never know what's going - 641 - 00:28:21,335 --> 00:28:22,855 - I had these men around me. + 479 + 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:21,410 + to become a euro. + + 480 + 00:21:21,410 --> 00:21:23,975 + That makes the + difference it makes, - 642 - 00:28:22,855 --> 00:28:26,615 - I wouldn't, but they - were, And that's right. + 481 + 00:21:23,975 --> 00:21:26,270 + I read that the + first 12 months of - 643 - 00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:30,290 - And so finally, the - university okayed + 482 + 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:30,304 + a baby is the most important + predators like it makes, - 644 - 00:28:30,290 --> 00:28:35,915 - four years of college - work recognition. + 483 + 00:21:30,304 --> 00:21:31,640 + it makes an impression on him. - 645 - 00:28:35,915 --> 00:28:41,390 - And Danielson, wherever - walter Danielson, + 484 + 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,470 + That's ending whether + he knows it or not. - 646 - 00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:43,609 - who had been missionary - to a sham India, + 485 + 00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:35,810 + And then the article said + that what did it say? - 647 - 00:28:43,609 --> 00:28:45,920 - he was prevailed on to be + 486 + 00:21:35,810 --> 00:21:38,165 + That the father should be with + him as well as the mother? - 648 - 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 - the first dean of - the junior college. + 487 + 00:21:38,165 --> 00:21:39,860 + The father should be + with him half the - 649 - 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,615 - And oh, it was a tough job. + 488 + 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:42,680 + time or the first 12 months, - 650 - 00:28:50,615 --> 00:28:52,670 - Money with short to beat the bet. + 489 + 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,569 + mother the other time + or at the same time, - 651 - 00:28:52,670 --> 00:28:54,395 - He cut down salaries, + 490 + 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:46,625 + it's on it's so important. - 652 - 00:28:54,395 --> 00:28:58,730 - showcases Have I remember - Mr. Norris and said to me, + 491 + 00:21:46,625 --> 00:21:49,280 + Well, you know, - 653 - 00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:00,710 - current dean Karnofsky - button dean. + 492 + 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,245 + children are important. + Intends to kill - 654 - 00:29:00,710 --> 00:29:03,635 - And he said to me he was - sitting in Duluth looking at + 493 + 00:21:51,245 --> 00:21:53,510 + my daughter, Hellen, + whom, you know, - 655 - 00:29:03,635 --> 00:29:05,479 - those figures and I + 494 + 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:54,770 + it's just closing her work now, - 656 - 00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:07,010 - came up to him into Luther - countered per share. + 495 + 00:21:54,770 --> 00:21:58,535 + five years teaching the little + children to the church. - 657 - 00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:08,265 - Any shape. Can you tell me? + 496 + 00:21:58,535 --> 00:22:00,110 + He's done a wonderful job. - 658 - 00:29:08,265 --> 00:29:09,920 - I can label in this thing. + 497 + 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:03,079 + So you've done a wonderful + job just closing these days - 659 - 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,600 - They weren't getting - much to start with, + 498 + 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:06,034 + now and she's resigning well, - 660 - 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,570 - then cut half of it to her. + 499 + 00:22:06,034 --> 00:22:07,879 + and she had been in that + work and she's loved we've - 661 - 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:17,555 - And they didn't cut. There's - so much to teach that + 500 + 00:22:07,879 --> 00:22:11,119 + got a huge well, - 662 - 00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:19,370 - he didn't show much. + 501 + 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:18,815 + not Lager came and the + Seminary was in Chicago. - 663 - 00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:21,499 - My brother, nice cut - others because we had + 502 + 00:22:18,815 --> 00:22:21,365 + It had moved to different + places, of course, - 664 - 00:29:21,499 --> 00:29:23,449 - been there so long about + 503 + 00:22:21,365 --> 00:22:24,860 + litres in St. Paul + awhile trumps pretty - 665 - 00:29:23,449 --> 00:29:25,399 - their Wu the school whether + 504 + 00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:26,960 + Nebraska file and + they're going to give - 666 - 00:29:25,399 --> 00:29:27,890 - did and then you - mentioned the war. + 505 + 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,255 + them some money if they'd + come there and all of that. - 667 - 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:31,729 - Dave, Swedish Baptist, + 506 + 00:22:29,255 --> 00:22:31,745 + But mainly in Chicago. - 668 - 00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:35,550 - sort of very loyal to - the ward to the war. + 507 + 00:22:31,745 --> 00:22:33,499 + There were three professors, - 669 - 00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,665 - It was a good thing that - Germany was so wicked. + 508 + 00:22:33,499 --> 00:22:36,680 + Dr. logger in Dr. + Sandel, Dr. Hindi. - 670 - 00:29:39,665 --> 00:29:41,450 - That's what made us show night. + 509 + 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,780 + And there was a petition + there for awhile. - 671 - 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:42,920 - And that took place twice. + 510 + 00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:42,530 + Now the generals the American + bread and were very kind. - 672 - 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,850 - You know, i was done - in Iowa for pushed for + 511 + 00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:44,630 + There came a time when + they paid two with - 673 - 00:29:46,850 --> 00:29:50,000 - a weekend for the school + 512 + 00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:46,490 + the professors and + the Swedish people. - 674 - 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,780 - and there was a family - there had a big fine Farm. + 513 + 00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:48,170 + We paid one profession, - 675 - 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:55,219 - And I don't know - what they had done + 514 + 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:49,984 + we pay log min + salary, real estate, - 676 - 00:29:55,219 --> 00:29:56,479 - to make everybody mad at them + 515 + 00:22:49,984 --> 00:22:54,515 + and then each of the two + got 50, whatever it was. - 677 - 00:29:56,479 --> 00:29:57,650 - if they were holding the envoy + 516 + 00:22:54,515 --> 00:22:57,170 + And maybe Dean got more + of those three with - 678 - 00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:59,510 - from going into the service. + 517 + 00:22:57,170 --> 00:23:00,170 + the professors and everything + was taught in Sweden. - 679 - 00:29:59,510 --> 00:30:05,150 - And they call them slackers, - who they call them yellow. + 518 + 00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:02,569 + Chip Koch Lager even + didn't have the - 680 - 00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:06,739 - They came there one night, + 519 + 00:23:02,569 --> 00:23:05,420 + efficient that + wouldn't go forever. - 681 - 00:30:06,739 --> 00:30:09,635 - the neighborhood, and - painted all their buildings. + 520 + 00:23:05,420 --> 00:23:07,190 + He said wanted to their students, - 682 - 00:30:09,635 --> 00:30:12,515 - And the next day he was - going to have an auction. + 521 + 00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:09,125 + don't worry about the + English language. - 683 - 00:30:12,515 --> 00:30:14,374 - And you see how, + 522 + 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:10,490 + Don't try to think. - 684 - 00:30:14,374 --> 00:30:16,100 - I suppose cruel it was. + 523 + 00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:13,520 + You have to. You will never + have to preach in English. - 685 - 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,570 - I mean, it was dirty. + 524 + 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,770 + It's going to be + sweets all the time. - 686 - 00:30:17,570 --> 00:30:18,860 - It was to do that. + 525 + 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:18,185 + He said, well, he that is + like a vision, you know. - 687 - 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,605 - And I don't know what - their vision was, + 526 + 00:23:18,185 --> 00:23:21,110 + And finally, finally he resigned. - 688 - 00:30:21,605 --> 00:30:22,969 - what the reason they - had against him, + 527 + 00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:22,415 + He stayed on to long, - 689 - 00:30:22,969 --> 00:30:24,320 - how it turned out. + 528 + 00:23:22,415 --> 00:23:25,810 + many would say I'm membrane + Bethel Church, Minneapolis. - 690 - 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,095 - You were either lacquered - or you went to war. + 529 + 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:27,290 + He and his seminar had - 691 - 00:30:27,095 --> 00:30:30,034 - Now, how students at which - you think Amendment, David, + 530 + 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:29,825 + a commencement that + church that church. - 692 - 00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:32,285 - and we had less students - the seminary could + 531 + 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:33,034 + And my pastor WHO - 693 - 00:30:32,285 --> 00:30:35,630 - go because they were going - into Christian work. + 532 + 00:23:33,034 --> 00:23:35,134 + introduced him or + something and he said, - 694 - 00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:38,449 - And that the students in + 533 + 00:23:35,134 --> 00:23:37,340 + Well, Dr. logging and + won't be with us. - 695 - 00:30:38,449 --> 00:30:42,544 - the academy or in the - college were allowed + 534 + 00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:41,899 + So very long ago that + login got up and he said, - 696 - 00:30:42,544 --> 00:30:46,790 - to be free from the war - if they were lined up + 535 + 00:23:41,899 --> 00:23:43,729 + when it comes time to resign, - 697 - 00:30:46,790 --> 00:30:52,040 - as minister to training - from industry and so on. + 536 + 00:23:43,729 --> 00:23:46,140 + it'll be either will result. - 698 - 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,410 - But our general - conference with oil. + 537 + 00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:52,069 + But even then he had a + pension and he resigned - 699 - 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:55,850 - And then you mentioned - the matter of + 538 + 00:23:52,069 --> 00:23:56,420 + then that live to the age of 75. - 700 - 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:58,490 - fundamentalism. Our - Should you baptise? + 539 + 00:23:56,420 --> 00:23:59,615 + And Qi He never use glasses. - 701 - 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:00,095 - Conferences have always been + 540 + 00:23:59,615 --> 00:24:01,910 + You weren't in these + classes with him? - 702 - 00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:04,175 - fundamental as far as - the Bible's concern. + 541 + 00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:03,305 + He never used glasses. - 703 - 00:31:04,175 --> 00:31:07,039 - Maybe they were so - simple that they were, + 542 + 00:24:03,305 --> 00:24:05,389 + He said to me once, + it's a weakness to - 704 - 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,410 - I don't mean that - in any bad sense, + 543 + 00:24:05,389 --> 00:24:07,580 + use flash and it shows + that you're not all there. - 705 - 00:31:09,410 --> 00:31:11,719 - but they just took - the word of God, + 544 + 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:09,815 + It's a weakness to + erode, less inhibited. - 706 - 00:31:11,719 --> 00:31:14,555 - as he says, And believe it. + 545 + 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,795 + He didn't have to use cheaper - 707 - 00:31:14,555 --> 00:31:16,700 - And we can illustrate - that in visualization. + 546 + 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:15,230 + and that mattress + that with lowering. - 708 - 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,420 - We did hygienes spoken. + 547 + 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:20,000 + Now, did you did you ever + hear Ed Goodman Preet? - 709 - 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:22,580 - He's got a band - that he should lie. + 548 + 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,399 + You know, I missed it or I met - 710 - 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,770 - Surely say it. And - that reenter fashion. + 549 + 00:24:22,399 --> 00:24:25,805 + him or when you + watched in Chicago, - 711 - 00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:30,240 - While the whole Bible, you - know that word of God. + 550 + 00:24:25,805 --> 00:24:28,670 + I could've gone, + but my mother and + + 551 + 00:24:28,670 --> 00:24:30,709 + father thought it + wasn't necessarily - 712 - 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:37,430 - Now what do we have for - climate conference? + 552 + 00:24:30,709 --> 00:24:32,780 + that I go and they regret it. - 713 - 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:40,115 - Hasn't tended to be very - contentious though. + 553 + 00:24:32,780 --> 00:24:34,430 + A lot of things. You + know, we spent a year - 714 - 00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:43,069 - As it, again, you know, + 554 + 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:36,140 + in sweet mother + ministry children. - 715 - 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:45,680 - they have their - goods to the bush. + 555 + 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:38,180 + My sister and I. She's + 12 and I was ten. - 716 - 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,430 - Contention was about - the school, 1912. + 556 + 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:40,700 + We just went to visit + relatives in Sweden. - 717 - 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:51,590 - They didn't dare - to PIDA committee. + 557 + 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,279 + And she said afterwards + she didn't realize how - 718 - 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:53,810 - My brother even arrows - there and he said, + 558 + 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,679 + much it would mean to + have two years there, - 719 - 00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:55,790 - I won't be appoint a committee - to study this thing. + 559 + 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:46,969 + an excursion to stop cone, - 720 - 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:56,930 - No, no, no, no. + 560 + 00:24:46,969 --> 00:24:48,395 + but, but we didn't go. - 721 - 00:31:56,930 --> 00:31:58,520 - They wouldn't trust any committee + 561 + 00:24:48,395 --> 00:24:51,170 + And the same with this. - 722 - 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,590 - that they finally did - appoint a committee. + 562 + 00:24:51,170 --> 00:24:52,999 + Now, this is in Chicago + and I wanted to go, - 723 - 00:32:00,590 --> 00:32:02,359 - And no, they haven't + 563 + 00:24:52,999 --> 00:24:54,410 + and I don't blame my parents. - 724 - 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,680 - been there's excuse me. - What was the problem? + 564 + 00:24:54,410 --> 00:24:56,719 + But they they said, well, Henry, - 725 - 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,244 - There was, well, - the geographical, + 565 + 00:24:56,719 --> 00:24:59,390 + he can be important that + you should go there. - 726 - 00:32:09,244 --> 00:32:11,600 - it wasn't just that - the faculty in Chicago + 566 + 00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:01,640 + And that's when they + introduced him for - 727 - 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,180 - didn't want to leave or - other, that's one thing. + 567 + 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,410 + the last time and it took up - 728 - 00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:17,420 - And that they felt + 568 + 00:25:03,410 --> 00:25:05,300 + an offering as a gift to him. - 729 - 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:19,340 - that we didn't have - anything here much. + 569 + 00:25:05,300 --> 00:25:06,830 + I hope it's big, but + I'm afraid it wasn't. - 730 - 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:20,645 - I mean, where are we now? + 570 + 00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:11,915 + Biggest. Should've is now + longer granted. Rushdie, - 731 - 00:32:20,645 --> 00:32:23,360 - Table? They felt that + 571 + 00:25:11,915 --> 00:25:19,685 + and he wish she'll - 732 - 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760 - the American seminary - would let them + 572 + 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,680 + say that she had the + same lectures year - 733 - 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,430 - use Walker Hall, an old building. + 573 + 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,089 + after year and you know who - 734 - 00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:31,579 - And they said that ship + 574 + 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:24,200 + it's easier to teach and yeah, - 735 - 00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:34,265 - the other side shed - with its an overhaul. + 575 + 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,330 + that and they used to say, - 736 - 00:32:34,265 --> 00:32:37,160 - Dr. Robert, earlier he was - on the school committee. + 576 + 00:25:26,330 --> 00:25:30,229 + God forgive me for the paper + on which it was written, - 737 - 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,590 - Robert, he wrote misuse - or that thing that + 577 + 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:31,760 + resume with age and oh, - 738 - 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,150 - the thing you zone - of white elephant + 578 + 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,700 + good theology and so on. - 739 - 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:42,200 - essential. What did they do? + 579 + 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:37,520 + And what was it like + in the classroom? - 740 - 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,850 - Get a tweet, that's - white elephant. + 580 + 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,209 + Well, you didn't see him + when he was very dignified - 741 - 00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:46,340 - And another real estate - man or a builder + 581 + 00:25:41,209 --> 00:25:43,250 + and he was very + courteous to just like - 742 - 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:49,205 - in Evanston who's on - the side of Chicago. + 582 + 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,530 + it should be very courteous. - 743 - 00:32:49,205 --> 00:32:50,615 - He wrote that paper, + 583 + 00:25:45,530 --> 00:25:48,920 + He said once that + commencement, he said, - 744 - 00:32:50,615 --> 00:32:53,360 - let the shoemaker - state with his lashed. + 584 + 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,630 + now when this is over, - 745 - 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,190 - He's a doctor. He - knows how to operate. + 585 + 00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:54,035 + I believe that breathe unesco + spring out Watergate tall. - 746 - 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:57,440 - But you don't know anything - about a real-estate shut up? + 586 + 00:25:54,035 --> 00:25:55,864 + Once you, when this is over, - 747 - 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,739 - In other words, that's - what Madison School + 587 + 00:25:55,864 --> 00:25:56,839 + you're going to run away and - 748 - 00:33:00,739 --> 00:33:04,910 - themselves because - they'll have a Ubers. + 588 + 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:58,250 + forget where you've + been all the time. - 749 - 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:07,429 - And but that's the - biggest contention + 589 + 00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:03,260 + I want all of you to come + up and say goodbye to me, - 750 - 00:33:07,429 --> 00:33:09,590 - we've had and it turned out fine. + 590 + 00:26:03,260 --> 00:26:08,330 + farewell for the summer + in a courteous way. - 751 - 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:13,159 - Do that. 1913, which - a peace conference + 591 + 00:26:08,330 --> 00:26:10,445 + And they did them. But + he wanted to thing - 752 - 00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:14,960 - that my brother didn't go. + 592 + 00:26:10,445 --> 00:26:12,980 + done right? And so on. - 753 - 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,429 - I didn't know he was working on + 593 + 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:15,439 + And all the students struggling - 754 - 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,360 - the cattle are going to get from + 594 + 00:26:15,439 --> 00:26:17,479 + for once there two + or three of them, - 755 - 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,515 - the next year or something. + 595 + 00:26:17,479 --> 00:26:19,129 + and that they shouldn't + have done it, - 756 - 00:33:18,515 --> 00:33:20,120 - And they said, Why - does your brother one, + 596 + 00:26:19,129 --> 00:26:20,750 + but they kind of + start little trouble. - 757 - 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,820 - we want to see him and pasture. + 597 + 00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:23,104 + And you went through + that and you said today, - 758 - 00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:24,529 - Hinrich stood up and gave + 598 + 00:26:23,104 --> 00:26:26,150 + and I know what it is to + have students an uprising. - 759 - 00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:26,570 - every part of my brother, - which was out of ij, + 599 + 00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:27,350 + Platinum, my yp, she's - 760 - 00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:30,889 - where he said but only did say + 600 + 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:28,430 + I don't know. I + don't happen to me. - 761 - 00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:35,630 - He said he and my brother were - just close, like brothers, + 601 + 00:26:28,430 --> 00:26:29,450 + I could understood it. - 762 - 00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:37,864 - you know, my brother - which __init__ + 602 + 00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:31,250 + Well, those little + things can happen. - 763 - 00:33:37,864 --> 00:33:39,439 - chert pregnant young people + 603 + 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:33,529 + Uc Irvine might have - 764 - 00:33:39,439 --> 00:33:41,465 - who've been to Sunday - school led the choir. + 604 + 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:36,379 + might have triggered + that. You recall - 765 - 00:33:41,465 --> 00:33:43,249 - And when I came, I became to + 605 + 00:26:36,379 --> 00:26:38,540 + Maybe he wished he would. - 766 - 00:33:43,249 --> 00:33:46,460 - prepare young people - to president. + 606 + 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:40,730 + It was always strongest theology. - 767 - 00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:49,700 - And didn't either - privately saying, + 607 + 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:43,130 + Now, sprite, I know about + strong, I think he's wonderful. - 768 - 00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,409 - alright, began to preach + 608 + 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:44,900 + Have you ever heard of + strong salvage? A big book. - 769 - 00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:52,820 - and travel, and - I'll mention them. + 609 + 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:46,985 + That lecture contains everything. - 770 - 00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:55,009 - But hemorrhage stood - up there and he, + 610 + 00:26:46,985 --> 00:26:50,015 + And that Lindbergh, - 771 - 00:33:55,009 --> 00:33:58,730 - he praised my brother and - nutrition true university about + 611 + 00:26:50,015 --> 00:26:52,985 + you remember that he was + kind of a insurgent. - 772 - 00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:02,359 - true lady wearing stage + 612 + 00:26:52,985 --> 00:26:56,645 + He was one of those boys + club it with a little bit - 773 - 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:03,859 - where each stage we Room and the + 613 + 00:26:56,645 --> 00:27:00,784 + with Dr. Lander whose + mission secretary, - 774 - 00:34:03,859 --> 00:34:05,630 - wonderful family, - they haven't family. + 614 + 00:27:00,784 --> 00:27:02,390 + Pastor Chuck been happening. - 775 - 00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:08,014 - She says she hadn't - got a single fall + 615 + 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:04,369 + Elana, you should tell + us that the coffee table - 776 - 00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:10,459 - and had been quoted that - he was a kind of pellet, + 616 + 00:27:04,369 --> 00:27:06,965 + that NOT who was right. - 777 - 00:34:10,459 --> 00:34:11,870 - would put things across - to do everything. + 617 + 00:27:06,965 --> 00:27:11,375 + There was a final examination + and logarithm said to you, - 778 - 00:34:11,870 --> 00:34:13,280 - Remember who told me? Yes. + 618 + 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:12,859 + Dr. Laura, and say, do + you have to you have - 779 - 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,590 - All he was he was he - had a wonderful patch. + 619 + 00:27:12,859 --> 00:27:16,775 + to take it over again, + didn't goodness. - 780 - 00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:19,895 - All my rebellion was every - Sunday night and so on. + 620 + 00:27:16,775 --> 00:27:18,664 + And our Landry, he was kind of it - 781 - 00:34:19,895 --> 00:34:23,359 - And them, and then they + 621 + 00:27:18,664 --> 00:27:21,575 + senator. He said lot-to-lot grid. - 782 - 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:26,510 - had voted through this thing - then and Kodak to hate them. + 622 + 00:27:21,575 --> 00:27:24,635 + You can either flip + me or not plugged me. - 783 - 00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:27,950 - And then this came on. + 623 + 00:27:24,635 --> 00:27:26,465 + I won't take it over again. - 784 - 00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:29,719 - And then one of the pastors kinda + 624 + 00:27:26,465 --> 00:27:28,205 + Wetland mended wonderfully. - 785 - 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,505 - sore about the whole thing. + 625 + 00:27:28,205 --> 00:27:28,730 + Committee. - 786 - 00:34:31,505 --> 00:34:34,789 - He use sarcasm and he - got up and he said, + 626 + 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:30,470 + He knew he's a good man + to go out on the field. - 787 - 00:34:34,789 --> 00:34:37,729 - Well it's best to send the - school where the people are, + 627 + 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:32,630 + He's a good preacher, + bright color. - 788 - 00:34:37,729 --> 00:34:39,590 - the Buddhist where they + 628 + 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:34,460 + But I said there's - 789 - 00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,800 - either Swedish and I - did a distant elastic, + 629 + 00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,080 + a young children are going - 790 - 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,770 - I guess it is best to - celebrate people are the best. + 630 + 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760 + to end up at that coffee table. - 791 - 00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:47,524 - And another pastor - loop, distribute, + 631 + 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,710 + It had reached home and I - 792 - 00:34:47,524 --> 00:34:50,240 - let's not have any That - sarcasm, nice additives. + 632 + 00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:43,130 + thought you were inquiry + a courteous to to to him. - 793 - 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:55,520 - And that fellow squashed - somewhere. It was, + 633 + 00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:45,140 + He wanted you to get that better - 794 - 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,850 - it was forced out of University - of Chicago one allele. + 634 + 00:27:45,140 --> 00:27:48,800 + and you wouldn't submit + to His direction. - 795 - 00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:01,099 - And if they stop, + 635 + 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,770 + He was your supervisor and said, - 796 - 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,870 - they stop the two they had + 636 + 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:54,035 + well now kinda jump. - 797 - 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:04,820 - paid for to professors - and they said, + 637 + 00:27:54,035 --> 00:27:55,910 + You looked at your + watch and we stop here. - 798 - 00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:05,929 - now you're strong - enough to pay for + 638 + 00:27:55,910 --> 00:27:58,070 + We got the students + back in those days - 799 - 00:35:05,929 --> 00:35:07,640 - yourself. That's right. + 639 + 00:27:58,070 --> 00:28:00,784 + were all Greek operative rehab - 800 - 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,540 - And that was one - thing and so forth. + 640 + 00:28:00,784 --> 00:28:04,339 + recalcitrant. That means + that when we start, - 801 - 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:14,509 - But started to say - that the seminary had + 641 + 00:28:04,339 --> 00:28:06,019 + we're still kinda jumping + out of the other sites - 802 - 00:35:14,509 --> 00:35:18,140 - their homes air and they - had two sons and daughters. + 642 + 00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:08,015 + are like how do the + Academy started? - 803 - 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:19,625 - Some of them are fine. + 643 + 00:28:08,015 --> 00:28:10,565 + His brother gave me some + highlights to talk about. - 804 - 00:35:19,625 --> 00:35:21,770 - And they loved where they + 644 + 00:28:10,565 --> 00:28:14,465 + I'm shooting and I'm doing well. - 805 - 00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:24,350 - had their connections into - churches and schools. + 645 + 00:28:14,465 --> 00:28:17,510 + It was a 103 Brother. - 806 - 00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:26,720 - And it wasn't beautiful, + 646 + 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:19,595 + Dave said what, what + started as Seminary? - 807 - 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,700 - Morgan Park, it was - beautiful and all of that. + 647 + 00:28:19,595 --> 00:28:21,950 + When I started college, + I started the academies. - 808 - 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:33,650 - But anyway, what happened? + 648 + 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,540 + Huh? That's fine. - 809 - 00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:36,515 - Happened and nitrous, - pretty nearly unanimous. + 649 + 00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:26,270 + And it was a January + Conference in Trump's broke. - 810 - 00:35:36,515 --> 00:35:38,570 - Now, when they voted into - Luke, who you there? + 650 + 00:28:26,270 --> 00:28:28,130 + We had some fine + churches down there. - 811 - 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:39,890 - When they voted on - taking money from + 651 + 00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:31,160 + They were faithful country + churches, some of them. - 812 - 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:41,570 - the government for - our school here. + 652 + 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,170 + And they put to me, - 813 - 00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:43,669 - I prayed I was there + 653 + 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:34,399 + and they kind of cringe to - 814 - 00:35:43,669 --> 00:35:46,040 - at the time we had - that on Malmstrom. + 654 + 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:39,125 + give the two main aggressors + we'll call Sunday afternoon. - 815 - 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,765 - I prayed, I said, Lord, + 655 + 00:28:39,125 --> 00:28:42,964 + One was Dr. Frank Peterson, - 816 - 00:35:47,765 --> 00:35:50,315 - whatever way it goes, - this is humbled. + 656 + 00:28:42,964 --> 00:28:45,379 + wonderful man. And the other one - 817 - 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,700 - Whatever way this goes, - Make it two to one, + 657 + 00:28:45,379 --> 00:28:47,360 + was Professor Eric Dr. Erickson, - 818 - 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,130 - so that they won't be any - digital system in this thing. + 658 + 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,650 + Dale, or the seminary. - 819 - 00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:56,570 - So it'll be so overwhelming. + 659 + 00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:52,280 + They didn't tell them what + to say. As I understand it. - 820 - 00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,850 - And it was two to one - in favor of not taking + 660 + 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,249 + They just put them on + for the message and - 821 - 00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:01,115 - government money. - Currently himself. + 661 + 00:28:55,249 --> 00:28:57,230 + got seem to lead so that - 822 - 00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:02,300 - Dr. Len present himself, + 662 + 00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:59,600 + both of them took the same theme, - 823 - 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:06,485 - spoken to the - ministers Minneapolis. + 663 + 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,629 + that we need an + educational institution - 824 - 00:36:06,485 --> 00:36:08,195 - He himself stood there. + 664 + 00:29:02,629 --> 00:29:05,569 + in our conference to + receive our young people, - 825 - 00:36:08,195 --> 00:36:10,565 - He's my boy. He's - in my classroom. + 665 + 00:29:05,569 --> 00:29:07,580 + especially those who call into - 826 - 00:36:10,565 --> 00:36:12,260 - I love him and he loves me. + 666 + 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:09,980 + Christian service, + where they can get - 827 - 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:14,194 - But he said to those ministers, + 667 + 00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:11,269 + not only seminary training, - 828 - 00:36:14,194 --> 00:36:15,755 - you will never get away from it. + 668 + 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:13,715 + which we have at + professional coursing them. - 829 - 00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:17,510 - If you take money - from the government, + 669 + 00:29:13,715 --> 00:29:16,285 + But, but wouldn't + it have been done? - 830 - 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:19,789 - they'll tell you what he said, + 670 + 00:29:16,285 --> 00:29:18,455 + They call it the training + high school and college. - 831 - 00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:23,000 - that he, he didn't make a speech + 671 + 00:29:18,455 --> 00:29:20,060 + And now the Lutherans have - 832 - 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,320 - and they would be the ones + 672 + 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:21,440 + that another + denomination. I haven't. - 833 - 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,690 - you so gracious - doctor encouraged. + 673 + 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,580 + And we are the poorest of all. - 834 - 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:30,290 - And this invite, Dr. Len - crescendo on the platform. + 674 + 00:29:22,580 --> 00:29:25,535 + We're a most efficient, + inefficient. - 835 - 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:31,955 - Climactic Li He shed. + 675 + 00:29:25,535 --> 00:29:28,160 + And it shows that just went - 836 - 00:36:31,955 --> 00:36:36,575 - Now we're going to vote no - on whichever way this go, + 676 + 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,399 + through which God led both + of them to just a GUI, - 837 - 00:36:36,575 --> 00:36:40,415 - whether it goes one way or the - other way, it's all right. + 677 + 00:29:31,399 --> 00:29:35,390 + one with the other in + that theme and show. - 838 - 00:36:40,415 --> 00:36:41,540 - We'll just close. + 678 + 00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:37,099 + They took it up and - 839 - 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:44,150 - Irange have worked - together in prayer. + 679 + 00:29:37,099 --> 00:29:43,250 + they see they wait until + the next year, 1993. - 840 - 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:45,934 - Lord that had beautiful + 680 + 00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:44,779 + And my brother and I was at - 841 - 00:36:45,934 --> 00:36:48,855 - and write in English - from his heart. + 681 + 00:29:44,779 --> 00:29:46,910 + the conference in + 1904 in Kansas City, - 842 - 00:36:48,855 --> 00:36:51,669 - Well, that's good. You mentioned + 682 + 00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:49,055 + Missouri, Mr. Pq and - 843 - 00:36:51,669 --> 00:36:56,125 - the strong allegiance to the War. + 683 + 00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:51,994 + we when young people + are working on day two - 844 - 00:36:56,125 --> 00:36:57,940 - Second World War. + 684 + 00:29:51,994 --> 00:29:55,069 + And so the next year, 194, - 845 - 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:01,989 - Wasn't the conference - fairly antiwar + 685 + 00:29:55,069 --> 00:29:57,740 + they appointed a committee + to go ahead with - 846 - 00:37:01,989 --> 00:37:05,830 - during the First World - War on its history? + 686 + 00:29:57,740 --> 00:29:59,240 + that and they just heard - 847 - 00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,629 - And I wonder how does change, + 687 + 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,420 + the address their instructor - 848 - 00:37:07,629 --> 00:37:09,910 - while they were such a - spirit of patriotism + 688 + 00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:01,865 + broker, then they acted on it. - 849 - 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:12,430 - sweeping the edu.duke endeavor? + 689 + 00:30:01,865 --> 00:30:04,625 + They reportedly would + acknowledge next year, - 850 - 00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:15,145 - Some, no doubt as I would - be huge, like have some. + 690 + 00:30:04,625 --> 00:30:06,110 + and they appointed a committee. - 851 - 00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:19,330 - But there were such - Illinois Loyalty. + 691 + 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:11,915 + Dr. Robert Earl was on it and + some of the high efficient, - 852 - 00:37:19,330 --> 00:37:22,629 - And now that you even - had to harbor you go + 692 + 00:30:11,915 --> 00:30:14,599 + prominent laymen, as well + as some of the pasture, - 853 - 00:37:22,629 --> 00:37:26,515 - a scant gradations for your - food if they found people. + 693 + 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,865 + that they should + do something about - 854 - 00:37:26,515 --> 00:37:28,285 - One of my best friends URL, + 694 + 00:30:16,865 --> 00:30:20,960 + or inaugurating an academy, - 855 - 00:37:28,285 --> 00:37:29,950 - that lawyer in Chicago, earnest. + 695 + 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,735 + creating an academy where + young people could come. - 856 - 00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:31,320 - He stood up at my wedding. + 696 + 00:30:23,735 --> 00:30:26,060 + Now, hundreds, a deed + for the academy. - 857 - 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,140 - Fairness to England. + 697 + 00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:27,890 + Well, there were several needs. - 858 - 00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:36,229 - He, he's a lawyer in - Chicago, Principle Fellow, + 698 + 00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:31,579 + A good many of - 859 - 00:37:36,229 --> 00:37:38,000 - but he was a private officer to + 699 + 00:30:31,579 --> 00:30:32,749 + our churches where in the country - 860 - 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,889 - go around and - chicken at homes and + 700 + 00:30:32,749 --> 00:30:34,370 + and didn't have a + high school there. - 861 - 00:37:39,889 --> 00:37:43,535 - look at they had hidden - away potatoes are a flower. + 701 + 00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:35,989 + You'd have to go + to town anyway in - 862 - 00:37:43,535 --> 00:37:45,965 - And he had carried - a gun, Revolver, + 702 + 00:30:35,989 --> 00:30:37,775 + board to go to high school - 863 - 00:37:45,965 --> 00:37:48,230 - and that she, they, + 703 + 00:30:37,775 --> 00:30:40,729 + and show it be - 864 - 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:49,820 - that that was a crime. + 704 + 00:30:40,729 --> 00:30:41,899 + just the waveform to go to - 865 - 00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:51,380 - You shouldn't harbor food + 705 + 00:30:41,899 --> 00:30:43,774 + St. Paul and go to the academy, - 866 - 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:53,945 - or stone when he called - it store it and so on. + 706 + 00:30:43,774 --> 00:30:45,590 + you'd have to go home anyway. - 867 - 00:37:53,945 --> 00:37:56,600 - But generally - speaking, I would say + 707 + 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:47,014 + And then another thing, - 868 - 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,280 - it and bang it bonds - was almost compulsory. + 708 + 00:30:47,014 --> 00:30:48,679 + they would have that + Christian Fellowship - 869 - 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,799 - I was in big spring, South Dakota + 709 + 00:30:48,679 --> 00:30:50,615 + and a kind of Christian training. - 870 - 00:38:03,799 --> 00:38:06,199 - speaking for the layman + 710 + 00:30:50,615 --> 00:30:52,819 + And basically for those who - 871 - 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,330 - for money for the - college building, + 711 + 00:30:52,819 --> 00:30:55,700 + felt the goddess called him + into Christian service. - 872 - 00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:13,230 - which had been the catabolic - pharmacology billing. And + 712 + 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:58,010 + And so that thing went + through phi1 into - 873 - 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,745 - they told of a man who came - over from, from Germany. + 713 + 00:30:58,010 --> 00:31:01,985 + Payne Avenue Church + in Kansas City. - 874 - 00:38:18,745 --> 00:38:23,289 - He was chairman of crushers - hearing paper, Jeremy, + 714 + 00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:05,075 + In Kansas City, that was + they appointed a committee. - 875 - 00:38:23,289 --> 00:38:25,570 - and he had made a - lot of money and + 715 + 00:31:05,075 --> 00:31:07,159 + That committee, I + think Robert Urbis, - 876 - 00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:28,525 - an officer went to him - and he said how much. + 716 + 00:31:07,159 --> 00:31:08,705 + chairman. I'm not sure. - 877 - 00:38:28,525 --> 00:38:31,585 - He asked him about his - property and he answered two. + 717 + 00:31:08,705 --> 00:31:10,910 + And I'm sure Dr. + Ekstrom was on it. - 878 - 00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:34,690 - He said How how many cavity - you had? So on, so on. + 718 + 00:31:10,910 --> 00:31:13,565 + Pastured eggs from those + days you'd want to migrate. - 879 - 00:38:34,690 --> 00:38:36,369 - So how much of that - you'll want to + 719 + 00:31:13,565 --> 00:31:17,119 + Pastures are kept + him at 12pm. And - 880 - 00:38:36,369 --> 00:38:39,325 - Antoine Shuangcheng, - that's on software. + 720 + 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760 + they appointed a + committee and that - 881 - 00:38:39,325 --> 00:38:41,054 - You've made it an American made + 721 + 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,725 + committee acted ones that year, - 882 - 00:38:41,054 --> 00:38:43,195 - right here in this - state didn't change. + 722 + 00:31:21,725 --> 00:31:25,040 + 1905 to started Oh, yes. - 883 - 00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:45,069 - And you aren't going - to buy an elaborate + 723 + 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,360 + The resolution. Read it. - 884 - 00:38:45,069 --> 00:38:48,535 - about, I tell you what you do. + 724 + 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,234 + They should call Dr. chord - 885 - 00:38:48,535 --> 00:38:52,900 - You go back to your - homeland, the way of Cain. + 725 + 00:31:28,234 --> 00:31:30,785 + to be first-principle + to the academy. - 886 - 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:57,410 - Leave this here. I'm not saying - that because she did it. + 726 + 00:31:30,785 --> 00:31:32,990 + I haven't mentioned + Dr. guard before, - 887 - 00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:02,030 - And good reasons, you're + 727 + 00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:35,449 + but he was a wonderful + scholar and he was a - 888 - 00:39:02,030 --> 00:39:03,890 - not appreciating that you've - made all their money here. + 728 + 00:31:35,449 --> 00:31:38,480 + wonderful Christian and his + life with beautiful doctor. - 889 - 00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:05,689 - You had opportunities - and yet you set + 729 + 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,329 + I understand that dr. + Gordy's just like a pawn, - 890 - 00:39:05,689 --> 00:39:07,985 - your foot down - against cooperation. + 730 + 00:31:41,329 --> 00:31:43,430 + such a beautiful personality. - 891 - 00:39:07,985 --> 00:39:10,370 - Where then the - Germans said, well, + 731 + 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:45,350 + What Dr. Gore came from Sweden to - 892 - 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:12,994 - what do you want to - do that and said, + 732 + 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:47,629 + move to New York to Brooklyn. - 893 - 00:39:12,994 --> 00:39:16,655 - I want you to buy $40 - thousand abundancy setups. + 733 + 00:31:47,629 --> 00:31:49,699 + >> Professor hit Dean and + we'd later profession - 894 - 00:39:16,655 --> 00:39:17,390 - And he did it. + 734 + 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,830 + the Seminary. He + wished pasture there. - 895 - 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,805 - He did it, he did well. + 735 + 00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:55,190 + They had great, reliable + Dr. Gore was defined clean. - 896 - 00:39:19,805 --> 00:39:21,080 - Cz you had those. + 736 + 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:57,710 + Yen man. I don't know what + happened to his father. - 897 - 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,510 - It did one by month and that. + 737 + 00:31:57,710 --> 00:31:59,569 + Never heard of him, + but but I guess she - 898 - 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:25,880 - But most people did. - Who could? Who could? + 738 + 00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:01,865 + had died early. Get + a wonderful mother. - 899 - 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,250 - Every church had a service flag, + 739 + 00:32:01,865 --> 00:32:05,164 + And he was wonderfully converted - 900 - 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,875 - and this isn't very - conspicuous place. + 740 + 00:32:05,164 --> 00:32:10,235 + and he fed lead into Christian + to Christian ministry. - 901 - 00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:33,890 - The 990s annual conference listed + 741 + 00:32:10,235 --> 00:32:13,380 + He was small enough stature, - 902 - 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:36,529 - every single somebody's - Baptist border + 742 + 00:32:14,530 --> 00:32:18,334 + very beautiful, rich hair, - 903 - 00:39:36,529 --> 00:39:38,929 - was in service. So - there was a kind of + 743 + 00:32:18,334 --> 00:32:20,750 + black hair, and everything - 904 - 00:39:38,929 --> 00:39:43,609 - and yet just I had recall - that tax of Anderson + 744 + 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:22,400 + about him is Dr. + Lander's headers. - 905 - 00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:46,880 - and read to us at - our church one time + 745 + 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,629 + There's like a poem, - 906 - 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,945 - a resolution which was made - that was very anti war. + 746 + 00:32:23,629 --> 00:32:28,050 + perfect gentleman in every + way and a brilliant scholar. - 907 - 00:39:50,945 --> 00:39:54,110 - I thought that from the - early part where there were + 747 + 00:32:31,689 --> 00:32:34,164 + >> I want to say something + back here again if I - 908 - 00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:57,485 - some of that other were - anti-war reservoirs. + 748 + 00:32:34,164 --> 00:32:36,290 + get back to well, - 909 - 00:39:57,485 --> 00:39:58,789 - There were these general, + 749 + 00:32:36,290 --> 00:32:38,330 + they in the resolution, - 910 - 00:39:58,789 --> 00:40:01,850 - and I'm just wondering how - they played really well, + 750 + 00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:41,675 + they said codec to guard + to be the first-principle. - 911 - 00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:05,660 - but it's real sentiment - was not that well. + 751 + 00:32:41,675 --> 00:32:43,670 + Alright? Neither + were on bare ground. - 912 - 00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:08,030 - I don't think there - will your mind, + 752 + 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:45,635 + Where going to meet what + I'm going to started. - 913 - 00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:10,370 - but yeah, it was a - case of patriotism. + 753 + 00:32:45,635 --> 00:32:47,240 + What else are they going to do? - 914 - 00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:12,559 - But right now it's + 754 + 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,260 + Or they had some good men. - 915 - 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:16,369 - interesting that she had + 755 + 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:50,929 + And that committee + anyway they began to - 916 - 00:40:16,369 --> 00:40:20,900 - Wb right towards the area - during all this time. + 756 + 00:32:50,929 --> 00:32:55,250 + announce at the academy + would start then follow 195, - 917 - 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,020 - What kind of relationships - did the school, + 757 + 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,920 + fall of 195 and the helium Church - 918 - 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:27,440 - and I'm very glad - close really rally. + 758 + 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,060 + Minneapolis from my brother had - 919 - 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,029 - The last years I had - the honor of being + 759 + 00:32:59,060 --> 00:33:00,560 + been for more than 50 years, - 920 - 00:40:29,029 --> 00:40:31,310 - a close friend of - Dr. alienated me. + 760 + 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,539 + essentially could precipitate + it and still a leader - 921 - 00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:32,824 - His last letter to me, + 761 + 00:33:02,539 --> 00:33:05,449 + there in his pad with, + well, anyway, they got, - 922 - 00:40:32,824 --> 00:40:37,009 - you said that I don't - know why it was wonderful + 762 + 00:33:05,449 --> 00:33:09,004 + they got permission to have + this Google in church, - 923 - 00:40:37,009 --> 00:40:41,719 - to she was in his - last letter to me, + 763 + 00:33:09,004 --> 00:33:11,750 + in Sunday School room, + some Bayesians, so on - 924 - 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,880 - I would not see him and - even when he was sick. + 764 + 00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:13,189 + And of course, they started with - 925 - 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,280 - And so what ever happened to me? + 765 + 00:33:13,189 --> 00:33:15,590 + two students like the other did, - 926 - 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,569 - He says, I may not be here + 766 + 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:17,870 + because the other day and anyway, - 927 - 00:40:47,569 --> 00:40:50,930 - La Jolla in all the - years at your school. + 767 + 00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:19,955 + the first graduation, I + had just two Student. - 928 - 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:53,510 - And my school has been - here in the Twin Cities. + 768 + 00:33:19,955 --> 00:33:22,460 + One went to the ministry - 929 - 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:55,219 - We have not found anything to + 769 + 00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:24,005 + and the other went + back to farming. - 930 - 00:40:55,219 --> 00:40:57,709 - criticize your school - either spiritually, + 770 + 00:33:24,005 --> 00:33:25,880 + And I've always thought + of those two as - 931 - 00:40:57,709 --> 00:41:00,725 - Oscar, elastically, we've - had one preferred learning. + 771 + 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,289 + representing the kinda work - 932 - 00:41:00,725 --> 00:41:03,245 - And then he said, we'd - ever happened to me. + 772 + 00:33:27,289 --> 00:33:28,940 + that this group doing right here. - 933 - 00:41:03,245 --> 00:41:04,879 - I belongs to the Lord. Of course, + 773 + 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:31,114 + Now some are going + to be layman here, - 934 - 00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:06,064 - whatever happens to me, + 774 + 00:33:31,114 --> 00:33:32,885 + you're going to be + Christian layman. - 935 - 00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:08,089 - I want you to - continue to speak to + 775 + 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:35,149 + Some of you who are + students here and some are - 936 - 00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:10,025 - the Northwestern students + 776 + 00:33:35,149 --> 00:33:37,250 + going at the ministry + and the college, - 937 - 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:12,755 - and where we had that privilege. + 777 + 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,784 + especially ministers + to both kind we need, - 938 - 00:41:12,755 --> 00:41:15,170 - And I wish we had + 778 + 00:33:39,784 --> 00:33:41,285 + we need lame and knowledge more - 939 - 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:18,740 - the January Conference here - and we had it in 5246. + 779 + 00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:42,530 + Christian than we administer. - 940 - 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:20,945 - I think this was on the campus. + 780 + 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:45,515 + Sometimes we think, well + anyway, the first graduate, - 941 - 00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:22,850 - And I I was challenged - on a conference. + 781 + 00:33:45,515 --> 00:33:47,239 + but they were there + three years before they - 942 - 00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:24,920 - Chairman 52. Awesome. - But on their way. + 782 + 00:33:47,239 --> 00:33:51,169 + graduate and they fused to, - 943 - 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,844 - And I was chairman twice anyway, + 783 + 00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:52,760 + well, they said We need a whole, - 944 - 00:41:27,844 --> 00:41:31,249 - and we've got Dr. Ryan - and to give a series of + 784 + 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,230 + we need a home of our own. - 945 - 00:41:31,249 --> 00:41:33,334 - talks to the General Conference + 785 + 00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:56,345 + Shall we do? Where shall we go? - 946 - 00:41:33,334 --> 00:41:35,330 - and he's drive would - come with him. + 786 + 00:33:56,345 --> 00:33:58,879 + Rather to men and + Payne Avenue Church, - 947 - 00:41:35,330 --> 00:41:37,009 - I said Dr. Riley, + 787 + 00:33:58,879 --> 00:34:00,800 + Saint Paul one gave - 948 - 00:41:37,009 --> 00:41:39,755 - give us give us - victorious life torch. + 788 + 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,529 + $5 thousand to start - 949 - 00:41:39,755 --> 00:41:42,905 - And then I'm going to do - just what you're saying. + 789 + 00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:06,350 + the building of an + academy. It cost eight. - 950 - 00:41:42,905 --> 00:41:45,035 - I want to try not - to talk too long. + 790 + 00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:09,590 + Finally, I guess the + other one was a builder. - 951 - 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:47,210 - We had it in the - hippodrome in February. + 791 + 00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:12,095 + He put it up he was + contracted to put it up. - 952 - 00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:50,930 - She then piggybacked - on their first time. + 792 + 00:34:12,095 --> 00:34:13,610 + Public beach company too. - 953 - 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:51,979 - We had to have it another hall + 793 + 00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:15,980 + And so that's on + character and St. Anthony - 954 - 00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:53,210 - than the hippodrome is built for. + 794 + 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:18,859 + part Carter Avenue + and comb avenue, - 955 - 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:56,509 - The second one, environment + 795 + 00:34:18,859 --> 00:34:20,840 + that building is still there - 956 - 00:41:56,509 --> 00:41:59,150 - was in charge of - reception preparation. + 796 + 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,860 + and it was a wonderful time + when they moved into that - 957 - 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,199 - Keys to wish, you know, + 797 + 00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:26,884 + and shed dished out + when building I want to - 958 - 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,700 - I think like readmission. + 798 + 00:34:26,884 --> 00:34:29,630 + describe that building + upstairs where - 959 - 00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:09,920 - Dr. Riley had some controversies - here via evolution. + 799 + 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:32,659 + 313 small rooms and - 960 - 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,275 - Yes, yes. That's kinda - funny. At times. + 800 + 00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:36,020 + then a washroom at the + end, bathroom or so on. - 961 - 00:42:15,275 --> 00:42:17,029 - He, he was going to speak at + 801 + 00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:40,144 + And those rooms in each one + of those rooms to student, - 962 - 00:42:17,029 --> 00:42:20,240 - the University of Minnesota - and then something happens, + 802 + 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:41,750 + two boys would stay. - 963 - 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,475 - so he couldn't do it. + 803 + 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:45,110 + And they used to say that + they couldn't couldn't chain. - 964 - 00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:25,099 - And the kind of credit - abroad that they turned it + 804 + 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,030 + They had to go outside + to change their minds. - 965 - 00:42:25,099 --> 00:42:29,405 - down and that made it put it - out in English, clear sign. + 805 + 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:49,820 + You heard so small, - 966 - 00:42:29,405 --> 00:42:31,595 - And some president - Kaufmann, he said, + 806 + 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:51,215 + but there's a bit there and - 967 - 00:42:31,595 --> 00:42:34,760 - we'll have him said we were - not rejecting against him. + 807 + 00:34:51,215 --> 00:34:53,420 + maybe a couple little + desk or something. - 968 - 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,770 - I don't know what the - cause of the other wedge. + 808 + 00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:57,650 + And that little building + was very efficient. - 969 - 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:38,809 - And so he arranged to have + 809 + 00:34:57,650 --> 00:35:00,290 + Bethel Academy became famous + all around the neighborhood. - 970 - 00:42:38,809 --> 00:42:41,989 - William Jennings - Bryan to have Dr. + 810 + 00:35:00,290 --> 00:35:02,989 + Their student who refined to and - 971 - 00:42:41,989 --> 00:42:44,930 - Riley and to speak - and announced that + 811 + 00:35:02,989 --> 00:35:05,795 + then on the first floor over + three recitation rooms. - 972 - 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:48,620 - the university so you'd have - a free reign right away. + 812 + 00:35:05,795 --> 00:35:07,909 + And then they're reading + room and then the kind of - 973 - 00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:50,240 - And then something happened. + 813 + 00:35:07,909 --> 00:35:10,730 + private office for the + for the principal. - 974 - 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,980 - Just a doctor, violet + 814 + 00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:18,240 + And then the basement was a + kitchen and a dining room and - 975 - 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:54,049 - Kaufman was pregnant. Uterus has + 815 + 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,030 + washroom and what else? - 976 - 00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:55,880 - rightly or roaster speech. + 816 + 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:27,499 + Basement. They had a + steward, the body club, - 977 - 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,150 - So packed up above the - ceiling with lub dub. + 817 + 00:35:27,499 --> 00:35:29,449 + and they would go up + the country around, - 978 - 00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:03,439 - Amongst the artificial - monkey showed was that + 818 + 00:35:29,449 --> 00:35:31,070 + I Santa Cambridge around and get - 979 - 00:43:03,439 --> 00:43:06,139 - rescue Fred Ryan and + 819 + 00:35:31,070 --> 00:35:33,590 + things for nothing + from the machine up. - 980 - 00:43:06,139 --> 00:43:08,600 - President COP and leapt - up like a gentleman. + 820 + 00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:35,885 + Things that are potatoes + and all of that. - 981 - 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,294 - He says, I want to apologize, + 821 + 00:35:35,885 --> 00:35:37,910 + And I remember one year - 982 - 00:43:10,294 --> 00:43:11,750 - Dr. Riley, for this. + 822 + 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:40,580 + and they run the + boarding time themself. - 983 - 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:14,570 - It's a prank and - were ashamed of it. + 823 + 00:35:40,580 --> 00:35:46,160 + I remember one year they + meals average $0.11 a meal. - 984 - 00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:16,460 - You said that was well done. + 824 + 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,230 + There's the good old + days, $0.11 a meal. - 985 - 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:25,620 - You've seen in another - debate name was Dr. Schmidt. + 825 + 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:49,490 + And they've got some for nothing. - 986 - 00:43:26,050 --> 00:43:28,519 - Yeah, the name is Dr. Smith of + 826 + 00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:55,295 + And then they they + paid $10 a month. - 987 - 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:30,619 - the speaker or the other side + 827 + 00:35:55,295 --> 00:35:58,610 + Well, Dr. guard was a + first-principle Nonaka. - 988 - 00:43:30,619 --> 00:43:32,420 - of the question about evolution. + 828 + 00:35:58,610 --> 00:36:00,859 + See him yet come walking down - 989 - 00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:34,904 - And he brought a Montague + 829 + 00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:02,600 + carter avenue for Mish. - 990 - 00:43:34,904 --> 00:43:39,490 - rather it's published - match right there. + 830 + 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,820 + Hello, happy block up there. - 991 - 00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:43,450 - And that speaker broader - monkey and rarely leave. + 831 + 00:36:04,820 --> 00:36:08,165 + He wished to perfect gentleman. - 992 - 00:43:43,450 --> 00:43:46,990 - We says, I see, I - see I was mistaken. + 832 + 00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:11,030 + It was spiritual + to the nth degree. - 993 - 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:50,110 - I thought I was going to - speak to Dr. Schmidt, + 833 + 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:16,610 + And then my brother came there + to teach in 1927 or eight. - 994 - 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:51,519 - but now I'm speaking to the Smith + 834 + 00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:21,170 + And I came there in 1987. - 995 - 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:57,670 - Brother's got the government - took the OD is just wrong. + 835 + 00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:22,579 + And I came in 1910, - 996 - 00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:02,830 - And I guess everybody - around them, Dr. Riley was, + 836 + 00:36:22,579 --> 00:36:24,140 + figured out along radiation. - 997 - 00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:05,830 - as I understood it, a great - brand and the labor and + 837 + 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:28,790 + I came in 1910 and I took + over as best I could think. - 998 - 00:44:05,830 --> 00:44:08,815 - the poor in his cargo. + 838 + 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:32,390 + English department, really + good to paste. I English. - 999 - 00:44:08,815 --> 00:44:11,350 - Yes, but he didn't - let him run him. + 839 + 00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:34,760 + Nice College couple. + Washington University. - 1000 - 00:44:11,350 --> 00:44:16,610 - He didn't let a running VM - or human friend. All right? + 840 + 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,109 + Kathy I with - 1001 - 00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:20,130 - He was, he was a genius. + 841 + 00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:38,464 + University of Minnesota a + great deal of the time. - 1002 - 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:24,335 - They had a debate in this church + 842 + 00:36:38,464 --> 00:36:40,205 + >> And then elsewhere too. - 1003 - 00:44:24,335 --> 00:44:28,250 - and nobody wish to speak - with those two speakers. + 843 + 00:36:40,205 --> 00:36:42,680 + Well, anyway, the + students repeatedly, - 1004 - 00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:30,349 - And one rally agreed with, + 844 + 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,269 + there were 18 students + than they were - 1005 - 00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:32,210 - and the other one of course, - he didn't agree with. + 845 + 00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:47,120 + 22 and then there + were 39. We had it. - 1006 - 00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:34,970 - And when averaged over, + 846 + 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,820 + And finally, when we moved away, - 1007 - 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:39,350 - nobody was allowed to speak - notion and interests over. + 847 + 00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:55,280 + my brother guard + resigned in 1914. - 1008 - 00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:42,065 - Dr. Riley had been - an estimate to make. + 848 + 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,229 + He was there from - 1009 - 00:44:42,065 --> 00:44:44,360 - And so he got a big announcement. + 849 + 00:36:57,229 --> 00:37:00,170 + 195 to nine that's nine years, + if that if that's right. - 1010 - 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,829 - And then he said, and by the way, + 850 + 00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:02,240 + But you see, he had + prepared for the ministry. - 1011 - 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:47,269 - I'd like to say this, + 851 + 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,715 + He had studied gotta + ductus Luther Seminary. - 1012 - 00:44:47,269 --> 00:44:48,499 - I think I'll take over + 852 + 00:37:04,715 --> 00:37:07,175 + And he studied another colleague, + distinguished scholar. - 1013 - 00:44:48,499 --> 00:44:49,880 - the preacher purse - because he's easy. + 853 + 00:37:07,175 --> 00:37:08,870 + He was brilliant and - 1014 - 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,795 - Stan Lee said wonders - appreciative. + 854 + 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:10,700 + he felt that he trained + for the pasture it - 1015 - 00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:55,460 - And then he went and - covered the whole 6-bit, + 855 + 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,079 + and and not to be pens but - 1016 - 00:44:55,460 --> 00:45:00,080 - took away the flag victory. + 856 + 00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:14,990 + an academy though he + didn't paperwork there. - 1017 - 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,779 - He expressed sided one, + 857 + 00:37:14,990 --> 00:37:17,570 + Nobody was there. Then he - 1018 - 00:45:02,779 --> 00:45:05,675 - I think while I think he - disagreed with both of them. + 858 + 00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:20,239 + was called to New York. + He was in New York, - 1019 - 00:45:05,675 --> 00:45:08,090 - So he says handled - administer versus easiest. + 859 + 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,464 + >> wash my church there and, - 1020 - 00:45:08,090 --> 00:45:09,169 - And likewise that helped, + 860 + 00:37:23,464 --> 00:37:25,940 + and then other churches + there and East. - 1021 - 00:45:09,169 --> 00:45:12,485 - you know, the other - side how many? + 861 + 00:37:25,940 --> 00:37:27,665 + And that was his love. - 1022 - 00:45:12,485 --> 00:45:14,960 - He covered both of them and + 862 + 00:37:27,665 --> 00:37:29,570 + And when he was, later on, - 1023 - 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,330 - got in the what he called - the truth than the matter. + 863 + 00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:30,770 + I'll just mentioned quickly, - 1024 - 00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:22,730 - You're smart. Did you - preach in your rallies? + 864 + 00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:33,215 + when they calling back + to their Seminary, - 1025 - 00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:27,139 - Charity I purchase I - Princeton at the time, + 865 + 00:37:33,215 --> 00:37:37,205 + they almost competitive + become Dr. Robert URL. - 1026 - 00:45:27,139 --> 00:45:30,680 - maybe that pitch duration and - Tabernacle Baptist Church. + 866 + 00:37:37,205 --> 00:37:40,175 + This district takes a jump + ahead, not for a moment. - 1027 - 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,570 - But I preached in 50 churches + 867 + 00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:43,115 + Later on they calling back + to be dean of the seminary. - 1028 - 00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:34,670 - inter-institutional - with smaller Jersey. + 868 + 00:37:43,115 --> 00:37:45,110 + And he felt the pastured + residual work because - 1029 - 00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:37,474 - Yeah, I'm Swedish Baptist, + 869 + 00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:47,030 + you have to be careful and rub. - 1030 - 00:45:37,474 --> 00:45:41,340 - American Baptist, - Presbyterian, Luther, + 870 + 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:49,520 + And Robert or went + to that church. - 1031 - 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:49,460 - Episcopalian ones, and - sometimes junior services. + 871 + 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,669 + Dr. Haig stone was there and they - 1032 - 00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:51,425 - I had an illustration. + 872 + 00:37:52,669 --> 00:37:54,349 + urge the church to release + + 873 + 00:37:54,349 --> 00:37:57,260 + him and he didn't wanna + go, what would you do? - 1033 - 00:45:51,425 --> 00:45:53,135 - We'll close with this shabby, + 874 + 00:37:57,260 --> 00:37:59,390 + They said now there's, + there's wonderful work. - 1034 - 00:45:53,135 --> 00:45:56,375 - This is beautiful, and - they want me to repeat it. + 875 + 00:37:59,390 --> 00:38:02,480 + This is training in + men and this dish is - 1035 - 00:45:56,375 --> 00:45:59,000 - A man was way out in the wilds + 876 + 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,900 + more important than the + bastard, yes or no. - 1036 - 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,475 - of the Northwest United States, + 877 + 00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,090 + And Gordon, you want + to go but he couldn't. - 1037 - 00:46:01,475 --> 00:46:04,009 - and he was all alone, + 878 + 00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:11,900 + He just couldn't get over + their opposition to a stain. - 1038 - 00:46:04,009 --> 00:46:07,890 - working as a pioneer - and he dug a well. - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:29:00 GMT -- request: - method: post - uri: http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/service/caption_captionasset/action/list - body: - encoding: UTF-8 - string: '{"filter":{"entryIdEqual":"1_or91f5dp","objectType":"KalturaAssetFilter"},"ks":"","format":2,"clientTag":"ruby:22-07-27","apiVersion":"18.10.0","kalsig":"7b24f2cbb4cec9a957351e5adb6c5e06"}' - headers: - Accept: - - text/xml - User-Agent: - - rest-client/2.1.0 (darwin21 x86_64) ruby/3.1.2p20 - Content-Type: - - application/json - Content-Length: - - '312' - Accept-Encoding: - - gzip;q=1.0,deflate;q=0.6,identity;q=0.3 - Host: - - www.kaltura.com - response: - status: - code: 200 - message: OK - headers: - Date: - - Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:15 GMT - Content-Type: - - text/xml;charset=UTF-8 - Content-Length: - - '513' - Connection: - - keep-alive - X-Me: - - nvp1-fapi-84r88 - Access-Control-Expose-Headers: - - Server, Content-Length, Content-Range, Date, X-Kaltura, X-Kaltura-Session, - X-Me - X-Kaltura-Session: - - 1536627861, 1717637655 - Access-Control-Allow-Origin: - - "*" - Expires: - - Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:52:00 GMT - Cache-Control: - - no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0 - Pragma: - - no-cache - X-Kaltura: - - cache-key,cache_v3-f0e2c4fdc5063b6146d25057432a9869 - Vary: - - Accept-Encoding - X-Proxy-Me: - - nvp1-front-proxy-green-ng-65f78b6fbb-ngs7d - X-Proxy-Session: - - e6f77e9f458534167245e0a3784b5ac1 - Server: - - Kaltura - body: - encoding: ASCII-8BIT - string: KalturaCaptionAssetListResponse1KalturaCaptionAsset1_dclj4vkj1_or91f5dp136985216670srt1610648615161064861766700Englishen1129011_sl2py66o,1_uhm1ij400.020206928253174 - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:15 GMT -- request: - method: get - uri: http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/service/caption_captionasset/action/serve?captionAssetId=1_dclj4vkj&ks= - body: - encoding: US-ASCII - string: '' - headers: - Accept-Encoding: - - gzip;q=1.0,deflate;q=0.6,identity;q=0.3 - Accept: - - "*/*" - User-Agent: - - Ruby - Host: - - www.kaltura.com - response: - status: - code: 200 - message: OK - headers: - Date: - - Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:15 GMT - Content-Type: - - text/plain;charset=UTF-8 - Content-Length: - - '2738' - Connection: - - keep-alive - X-Me: - - nvp1-fapi-cqspr - Access-Control-Expose-Headers: - - Server, Content-Length, Content-Range, Date, X-Kaltura, X-Kaltura-Session, - X-Me - X-Kaltura-Session: - - 209006763, 1717637655 - Access-Control-Allow-Origin: - - "*" - Expires: - - Sat, 14 Sep 2024 01:34:15 GMT - Cache-Control: - - public, max-age=8640000, max-stale=0 - Pragma: - - '' - X-Kaltura-Acp: - - '1282602' - X-Kaltura: - - cache-key,cache_v3-e702eb0eb205f446f436c040ac2e2b75 - Last-Modified: - - Sun, 19 Nov 2000 08:52:00 GMT - Accept-Ranges: - - bytes - Vary: - - Accept-Encoding - X-Proxy-Me: - - nvp1-front-proxy-green-ng-65f78b6fbb-zt9nf - X-Proxy-Session: - - b9b80d214a7b0ce9ba34ad25f09d0ce9 - Server: - - Kaltura - body: - encoding: ASCII-8BIT - string: | - 1 - 00:00:05,570 --> 00:00:09,255 - Hello. Today is July 30th, 1992. + 879 + 00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,609 + You might see it + that way. He loved - 2 - 00:00:09,255 --> 00:00:10,680 - My name is Mark Fry. + 880 + 00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:15,260 + administrate and they loved him. - 3 - 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,260 - I'm a volunteer lawyer - interviewer for + 881 + 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,549 + We came to the chip Greg, - 4 - 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:15,780 - the Khmer archives - project organized by + 882 + 00:38:16,549 --> 00:38:19,700 + he was and one woman who + was pasture and weird - 5 - 00:00:15,780 --> 00:00:16,740 - the Minnesota lawyers + 883 + 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,910 + and I was there and + one woman said to me, - 6 - 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,675 - international human - rights committee. + 884 + 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:24,635 + oh, you should have. + You should have been. - 7 - 00:00:18,675 --> 00:00:22,530 - I'm interviewing chum - runtime and the location + 885 + 00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:27,020 + In those days, it was + Dr. gourd pastor. - 8 - 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:24,645 - of this interview is - cable access studio + 886 + 00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:28,610 + If it's just a wonderful she kept - 9 - 00:00:24,645 --> 00:00:27,250 - in Saint Paul, Minnesota. + 887 + 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,320 + saying just so wonderful person, - 10 - 00:00:36,490 --> 00:00:41,225 - Hello, chum Ron. First of all, + 888 + 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,910 + wonderfully, she could say - 11 - 00:00:41,225 --> 00:00:44,780 - where were you born in Cambodia? + 889 + 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:35,015 + the word so wonderful + when gardeners here. - 12 - 00:00:44,780 --> 00:00:49,805 - Home. I was born in - cm and a city is + 890 + 00:38:35,015 --> 00:38:37,520 + When I was called away + from that to be principal, - 13 - 00:00:49,805 --> 00:00:54,965 - not less of Cambodia Care. + 891 + 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,694 + to be dean of the seminary that - 14 - 00:00:54,965 --> 00:00:58,535 - How long did you - live in that locale? + 892 + 00:38:39,694 --> 00:38:42,215 + others have to we're going + to be got going that way. - 15 - 00:00:58,535 --> 00:01:02,150 - I lived a few years - and after that, + 893 + 00:38:42,215 --> 00:38:44,735 + But to, Well then, - 16 - 00:01:02,150 --> 00:01:04,370 - my pattern little bat to live + 894 + 00:38:44,735 --> 00:38:48,350 + now then the two schools united. - 17 - 00:01:04,370 --> 00:01:08,000 - in Cambodia in Metabolic City. + 895 + 00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:50,614 + The seminary in Chicago, - 18 - 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,950 - Ok. How many brothers and - sisters did you have? + 896 + 00:38:50,614 --> 00:38:53,885 + which move by the January + Conference to St. Paul - 19 - 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:21,270 - I have fall. + 897 + 00:38:53,885 --> 00:38:58,190 + and the academy and + disseminate where to unite. - 20 - 00:01:22,570 --> 00:01:26,225 - Fall brought an end to syste. + 898 + 00:38:58,190 --> 00:39:01,125 + They required only academy + education to enter it. - 21 - 00:01:26,225 --> 00:01:30,365 - But right now only to be ally. + 899 + 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:03,470 + In fact, they took them at + first from the eighth grade. - 22 - 00:01:30,365 --> 00:01:32,885 - And one brought us - did in Cambodia + 900 + 00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:04,850 + It came from Sweden. - 23 - 00:01:32,885 --> 00:01:36,455 - and one sister in California. + 901 + 00:39:04,850 --> 00:39:07,940 + And they didn't require + much if they knew the Lord - 24 - 00:01:36,455 --> 00:01:41,090 - Care. What does your - ethnic background? + 902 + 00:39:07,940 --> 00:39:09,800 + and wanted to give + me subduing him and - 25 - 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:45,875 - And the Cambodian but - someone pop from Chinese. + 903 + 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 + had some ability and + there were good pasture, - 26 - 00:01:45,875 --> 00:01:49,879 - Okay. What did your father + 904 + 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,415 + say preach a gospel. - 27 - 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:53,675 - and mother do while you - lived in Battambang? + 905 + 00:39:13,415 --> 00:39:15,560 + And so Guard resigned in - 28 - 00:01:53,675 --> 00:01:58,790 - The Apple working - on down business. + 906 + 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,880 + 1914 and went to - 29 - 00:01:58,790 --> 00:02:03,110 - And my mom yes. + 907 + 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,890 + New York as pasture + unto the church at him. - 30 - 00:02:03,110 --> 00:02:06,005 - Dealing as mod of business, + 908 + 00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:23,250 + And then he was called back + as Dean later and so on. - 31 - 00:02:06,005 --> 00:02:08,885 - sounding like it'll say - something like that. + 909 + 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,189 + Now let me close with something - 32 - 00:02:08,885 --> 00:02:13,580 - Okay. Did you you've + 910 + 00:39:28,189 --> 00:39:30,800 + else about ingrain digest + slipped my mind him talking. - 33 - 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:14,990 - spent most of your - time growing up + 911 + 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,564 + So Patch eight Green was + a brilliant scholar, - 34 - 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:16,880 - in Battambang that yes. + 912 + 00:39:34,564 --> 00:39:37,100 + he was a scientific mind. - 35 - 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:25,430 - Okay. Do you remember + 913 + 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,680 + He traveled much as a saver. - 36 - 00:02:25,430 --> 00:02:28,145 - when the Khmer Rouge - came to power? + 914 + 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,770 + And it also says in his + book, and I think I'm right, - 37 - 00:02:28,145 --> 00:02:34,800 - And less than April 17th, 1975. + 915 + 00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:46,475 + that he knew 32 + languages somewhat, - 38 - 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,120 - And you were in - Battambang At the time? + 916 + 00:39:46,475 --> 00:39:49,805 + but he could speak + fluently 16 languages. - 39 - 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,475 - No lab lesson. Plumping city. + 917 + 00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:51,994 + Now there's a mind for you, - 40 - 00:02:40,475 --> 00:02:42,140 - Okay. What were you - doing in Phnom Penh + 918 + 00:39:51,994 --> 00:39:55,040 + and I told you about the + commoners saying to him, - 41 - 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:45,950 - sorting and that time I - list the police office, + 919 + 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,119 + the head of the navy said, - 42 - 00:02:45,950 --> 00:02:51,110 - the ok. How long have you - been living in Phnom Penh? + 920 + 00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,695 + you're, you're making a mistake. - 43 - 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:54,200 - Sorry. This amo to - you. Two years. + 921 + 00:39:57,695 --> 00:39:59,749 + You futures before you, - 44 - 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,840 - Okay. What happened when + 922 + 00:39:59,749 --> 00:40:02,210 + a glowing future, + all your ability. - 45 - 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,400 - the Khmer Rouge came to power + 923 + 00:40:02,210 --> 00:40:03,560 + I have another call, sir. - 46 - 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,900 - during those first few days? + 924 + 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,555 + Thank you. But I + have another call. - 47 - 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:05,105 - Do you recall that time? + 925 + 00:40:05,555 --> 00:40:08,600 + And you've heard of + the Rosetta Stone. - 48 - 00:03:05,105 --> 00:03:10,175 - I the first day of April 17, + 926 + 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,780 + That was another stone + like the Rosetta Stone. - 49 - 00:03:10,175 --> 00:03:12,680 - I went to pick up + 927 + 00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:13,340 + I forget what they call it. - 50 - 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,540 - my friend that I live - with them in plumping. + 928 + 00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:15,439 + And the scientists were - 51 - 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:21,830 - From the airport - and boating tongue. + 929 + 00:40:15,439 --> 00:40:19,970 + just were not agreed on some + of the interpretation there. + + 930 + 00:40:19,970 --> 00:40:23,675 + And they heard of Dr. Adrian, - 52 - 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:23,870 - When I came back home, + 931 + 00:40:23,675 --> 00:40:27,559 + he had a miraculous mine - 53 - 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:28,370 - that they will decide - to stay there. + 932 + 00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:31,009 + he did had and just + think his body was, - 54 - 00:03:28,370 --> 00:03:32,390 - And everybody in the neighbor, + 933 + 00:40:31,009 --> 00:40:33,365 + was, was strong and all + these troubles paying. - 55 - 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:34,070 - they start to move because + 934 + 00:40:33,365 --> 00:40:36,770 + And so they sent it + to Dr. Adrian for - 56 - 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:37,100 - the the Camaro soldier asked + 935 + 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:38,810 + his interpretation and he - 57 - 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:41,180 - us to leave the town - only three day. + 936 + 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:41,510 + gave them his interpretation + and they accepted it. - 58 - 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:43,160 - And that times many, + 937 + 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:44,570 + And they got together on they + took his they accepted it. - 59 - 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,070 - many people on the street. + 938 + 00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:47,705 + Put that with no Hudson + Austin's book, I'm sure. - 60 - 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:48,755 - And we cannot get - out from the place. + 939 + 00:40:47,705 --> 00:40:52,894 + So on this quantum + artists to yes, - 61 - 00:03:48,755 --> 00:03:50,180 - So we decide to stay + 940 + 00:40:52,894 --> 00:40:55,310 + he was an artist from you - 62 - 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:54,650 - one night and a house - and a nice morning. + 941 + 00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:58,070 + and that we've had + in the old seminary. - 63 - 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:59,285 - The part everything - It's not all belonging. + 942 + 00:40:58,070 --> 00:40:59,510 + I don't have any here now. - 64 - 00:03:59,285 --> 00:04:02,450 - Take along wet because - I thought that + 943 + 00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:01,459 + Painting that he had + made that had been - 65 - 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:05,930 - we can come back to - the city about 33 day. + 944 + 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:04,790 + made and it can just do + that for recreation. - 66 - 00:04:05,930 --> 00:04:10,430 - So we just take some of - belonging along with that. + 945 + 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:06,800 + Edwin? Oh, yeah. - 67 - 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:17,510 - And the morning of - April 181975, I care. + 946 + 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,025 + There are others that + are still in existence. - 68 - 00:04:17,510 --> 00:04:20,645 - Where did you go when you - whack Phnom Penh, Sorry. + 947 + 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:13,550 + Human persons up his paintings + though we have to push, - 69 - 00:04:20,645 --> 00:04:23,945 - I went with my friend - that I live with them, + 948 + 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:15,245 + will be somewhere + around or maybe more. - 70 - 00:04:23,945 --> 00:04:32,150 - goes south to Japan, + 949 + 00:41:15,245 --> 00:41:17,269 + Yes, there and I'm going to - 71 - 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:41,545 - Bo just across Mekong River - to the is of plumping city. + 950 + 00:41:17,269 --> 00:41:19,910 + restore it and framed properly. - 72 - 00:04:41,545 --> 00:04:44,305 - And then may decide - to stay there. + 951 + 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:21,830 + I was in a home in California - 73 - 00:04:44,305 --> 00:04:48,370 - But generally, we can't - stay because they come + 952 + 00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:23,750 + and staying as guest overnight. - 74 - 00:04:48,370 --> 00:04:49,810 - out or sold yet tried to + 953 + 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,465 + And in Oakland, I + guess it was because - 75 - 00:04:49,810 --> 00:04:52,750 - pause to move - farther and farther. + 954 + 00:41:26,465 --> 00:41:28,399 + the church needs to be - 76 - 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:58,570 - And the when to one - place they call not up + 955 + 00:41:28,399 --> 00:41:30,410 + there and he had a + painting issues. - 77 - 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:05,690 - from about ten kilo meter - from non-being city. + 956 + 00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:35,135 + Just painting was made by + a DC-10 said and I got it. - 78 - 00:05:06,330 --> 00:05:10,450 - At that time, were soldiers - guarding over you or + 957 + 00:41:35,135 --> 00:41:38,629 + I think Peter when he said he'd - 79 - 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:12,040 - were you allowed to move + 958 + 00:41:38,629 --> 00:41:40,400 + been had it there and he didn't - 80 - 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,125 - freely on your own - with your friend? + 959 + 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,170 + seem to need to try + anything like that. - 81 - 00:05:14,125 --> 00:05:17,470 - In my area, they - allow me to go so + 960 + 00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:44,660 + And he said could I thought + that could I buy that? - 82 - 00:05:17,470 --> 00:05:21,310 - only it cannot go - different direction. + 961 + 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:48,620 + Dr. Edgar Paraview and + they'd go ahead and take it. - 83 - 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:24,440 - Okay. What happened - after all of this? + 962 + 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:51,559 + He says, I want anonymous + either with Hamas or whether it - 84 - 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:30,530 - Then? I stay there about - a month and then know, + 963 + 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:56,330 + touches up s'mores has gotten + so they're able to $5. - 85 - 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:33,935 - tend to go back to the city. + 964 + 00:41:56,330 --> 00:41:58,190 + Just gave him the picture. - 86 - 00:05:33,935 --> 00:05:38,225 - And then my friend - and I decide to + 965 + 00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:59,960 + You see? Yes, it was an artist. + + 966 + 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,700 + And what else can + you say about him? - 87 - 00:05:38,225 --> 00:05:41,660 - leave and make decision to + 967 + 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,244 + That he was, he was, - 88 - 00:05:41,660 --> 00:05:45,020 - go to the hometown - and his hometown, + 968 + 00:42:03,244 --> 00:42:05,584 + he was a marvelous mine - 89 - 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:50,510 - this is cmd province and - my hometown is bottom bar. + 969 + 00:42:05,584 --> 00:42:11,040 + >> and yet make like this + will start on the other side. - 90 - 00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:53,540 - So I wanted to go - to see my pattern. + 970 + 00:43:20,740 --> 00:43:22,979 + Yes, - 91 - 00:05:53,540 --> 00:05:56,385 - Okay. Were you able to + 971 + 00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:41,969 + you see - 92 - 00:05:56,385 --> 00:06:01,080 - to travel to Battambang or - were you stopped beforehand? + 972 + 00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:01,669 + these - 93 - 00:06:01,750 --> 00:06:08,510 - I can't stop by the - the tomato soldier to + 973 + 00:44:01,669 --> 00:44:02,820 + two - 94 - 00:06:08,510 --> 00:06:14,690 - stay in one small - village between CMB, + 974 + 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:12,485 + verses - 95 - 00:06:14,690 --> 00:06:18,110 - a province and - combinatorial problem. + 975 + 00:44:12,485 --> 00:44:23,640 + on this side? - 96 - 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:21,660 - They call poem to. + 976 + 00:44:59,770 --> 00:45:01,949 + Hi, - 97 - 00:06:22,510 --> 00:06:26,400 - Yeah. 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This time trauma. + 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:08,930 + I think it's time for + us to begin today. 2 - 00:00:17,950 --> 00:00:23,020 - And approximately how - old were you doing? + 00:00:12,210 --> 00:00:14,364 + In the next couple of weeks, 3 - 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:25,014 - They come out of it? + 00:00:14,364 --> 00:00:15,639 + we are going to be 4 - 00:00:25,014 --> 00:00:28,645 - Yeah. That's 20 years old. + 00:00:15,639 --> 00:00:18,519 + shifting gears in the + class and looking 5 - 00:00:28,645 --> 00:00:32,650 - 20. Okay. Now, okay. + 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:22,149 + specific areas of the world and 6 - 00:00:32,650 --> 00:00:37,434 - You were you able to make - it travel to bottom Bond? + 00:00:22,149 --> 00:00:25,300 + using them as case studies to + test some of the biblical, 7 - 00:00:37,434 --> 00:00:40,179 - Did you did you eventually - arrive in Battambang to see + 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:27,790 + theological and historical study 8 - 00:00:40,179 --> 00:00:43,680 - your family or did they - stop you before then? + 00:00:27,790 --> 00:00:29,440 + of mission that we have had up to 9 - 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:51,275 - No. They they try to stop me - and my friend along the way. + 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:36,430 + this in your textbook that came. 10 - 00:00:51,275 --> 00:00:57,395 - But yes, to not lie to them - and make them want to stay + 00:00:36,430 --> 00:00:40,075 + What you will be reading 11 - 00:00:57,395 --> 00:00:59,644 - at a different place like that + 00:00:40,075 --> 00:00:41,440 + in the tale about 12 - 00:00:59,644 --> 00:01:04,220 - because I did not know - any body know relative. + 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,880 + a variety of mission + areas in the world. 13 - 00:01:04,220 --> 00:01:07,715 - So just trying to get away. + 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,130 + Michael Caine has pulled together 14 - 00:01:07,715 --> 00:01:11,495 - But I cannot at that time. + 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:51,769 + the most recent + compilation of what is 15 - 00:01:11,495 --> 00:01:14,975 - That's why the last + 00:00:51,769 --> 00:00:55,370 + going on in the world mission. 16 - 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:19,804 - stop that I stay in - Kampala, Tom problem, + 00:00:55,370 --> 00:00:57,800 + It's not exciting reading, 17 - 00:01:19,804 --> 00:01:24,590 - they call poem to - me that the relay + 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,990 + except if you happen + to be particularly 18 - 00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:30,424 - is separate between same - ramp and couple of thumb. + 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:02,945 + interested in one area + of the world or other. 19 - 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:33,920 - Okay. Now was a village + 00:01:02,945 --> 00:01:08,419 + There's a great + collection of data names, 20 - 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,350 - that was established by the - Khmer Rouge or was this + 00:01:08,419 --> 00:01:10,730 + dates, and so on. 21 - 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:38,419 - an existence because of the - Khmer Rouge came to visit + 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:13,099 + But you should be + familiar with what's 22 - 00:01:38,419 --> 00:01:43,834 - the existing village that - along the highway numbers say. + 00:01:13,099 --> 00:01:14,840 + going on around the world. 23 - 00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:48,845 - Okay. How long did - you remain there? + 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,330 + And cane fills in all + the gaps which we would 24 - 00:01:48,845 --> 00:01:52,264 - I stayed there until - the Vietnamese + 00:01:17,330 --> 00:01:20,840 + possibly be able to + capture here in class. 25 - 00:01:52,264 --> 00:01:58,505 - came in January ninth, 1979. + 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,384 + And I encourage you + to read that and 26 - 00:01:58,505 --> 00:02:04,174 - Okay. Whether many Khmer - Rouge soldiers there, + 00:01:23,384 --> 00:01:26,944 + read it carefully because 27 - 00:02:04,174 --> 00:02:06,395 - not so many there, + 00:01:26,944 --> 00:01:29,120 + for your own education, 28 - 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:08,225 - but that their latest, + 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,649 + ought to be aware of what 29 - 00:02:08,225 --> 00:02:11,540 - the, at the old place that + 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:34,055 + the Christian church is + doing throughout the world. 30 - 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:19,559 - the commando capture - during 1970 occur. + 00:01:34,055 --> 00:01:35,360 + Not only in terms of 31 - 00:02:19,630 --> 00:02:22,100 - How many, how many of you were + 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,879 + missionaries that we + sent from America, 32 - 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:27,304 - there that were being guarded or, + 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:39,500 + but in terms of many of 33 - 00:02:27,304 --> 00:02:29,795 - or held there by the Khmer Rouge. + 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,929 + the indigenous + movements and so on, 34 - 00:02:29,795 --> 00:02:36,305 - The people that while - alone at that time, + 00:01:41,929 --> 00:01:44,840 + around the world are + some exciting stories of 35 - 00:02:36,305 --> 00:02:40,504 - as I remember, has - about 200 people. + 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,850 + what is happening + in the Church of 36 - 00:02:40,504 --> 00:02:44,300 - And they let us stay there. + 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:49,370 + Jesus Christ in many + areas of the world. 37 - 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:49,220 - And then they put - lay one family one. + 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:51,530 + And I'm a little frightened by 38 - 00:02:49,220 --> 00:02:50,420 - How would they call + 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:54,200 + the present trend + within our own country, 39 - 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:54,514 - the old people to leave - with them so they can + 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,915 + particularly among the + younger generations. 40 - 00:02:54,514 --> 00:03:00,560 - provide shout and some - food or material. + 00:01:56,915 --> 00:02:00,049 + Now kind of Neil, + isolationism in America, 41 - 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,915 - A little bit hard - to live with them. + 00:02:00,049 --> 00:02:02,329 + which subtracts us from 42 - 00:03:02,915 --> 00:03:05,884 - Okay. Now, what do you - mean by the wrong people? + 00:02:02,329 --> 00:02:06,395 + our involvement are places + in the world, Latin America. 43 - 00:03:05,884 --> 00:03:08,690 - That mean the people - that live that + 00:02:06,395 --> 00:02:09,169 + We see it in our foreign policy 44 - 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:12,200 - the Camaro before the Khmer + 00:02:09,169 --> 00:02:13,670 + of the Cries about arc one + policy from groups in America. 45 - 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,795 - captured the whole Cambodia Care. + 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:17,345 + And many of these voices + are the voices of beyond. 46 - 00:03:14,795 --> 00:03:18,199 - Okay. Were you in a household + 00:02:17,345 --> 00:02:19,940 + I hope that you + aren't captivated, 47 - 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:19,940 - with another family or with + 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:23,990 + at least in terms of your + Christian outlook by this neil, 48 - 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:22,040 - your friend or who did you ever? + 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:29,975 + isolationism, exciting things + going on in the world. 49 - 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,124 - I live with my friend and - his wife, two children. + 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:32,660 + Are not those going + on in America? 50 - 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:32,390 - Okay. Now, while you - were living here, + 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:35,180 + Many things in other + parts of the world. 51 - 00:03:32,730 --> 00:03:34,930 - do they have you do + 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:36,935 + And I want you to be + familiar with those. 52 - 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:38,335 - work or what did you - do during the day? + 00:02:36,935 --> 00:02:39,905 + That's the reason + for your reading? 53 - 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:40,479 - Yes. They said nato. + 00:02:39,905 --> 00:02:44,690 + K? I'm well aware from + my own reading it 54 - 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:43,405 - Let them right away - then the next day. + 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:48,589 + came that in some instances 55 - 00:03:43,405 --> 00:03:45,760 - Okay. And what kind of - work do they have you? + 00:02:48,589 --> 00:02:51,539 + not going to be heavily + stimulate others. You, well, 56 - 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:55,435 - Do? They send me to live with - the to date the bloody car, + 00:02:51,539 --> 00:02:55,315 + I want you to read it unless + in class we are going 57 - 00:03:55,435 --> 00:04:00,280 - like a small stream that - file from the place + 00:02:55,315 --> 00:02:58,974 + to be zeroing in on a series 58 - 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,350 - that they live while - in the flawed I sub + 00:02:58,974 --> 00:03:04,900 + of particular areas + of the world in 59 - 00:04:02,350 --> 00:04:05,979 - L phi to say kilo meter. + 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:07,569 + an attempt to see in a case study 60 - 00:04:05,979 --> 00:04:09,984 - And here were these - irrigation ditches? + 00:03:07,569 --> 00:03:11,530 + some of the larger implications + of mission study itself. 61 - 00:04:09,984 --> 00:04:14,105 - Yeah. Okay. What other kinds - of work do they have you do? + 00:03:11,530 --> 00:03:14,620 + For example, this time Friday, 62 - 00:04:14,105 --> 00:04:16,489 - Just the first time? + 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:19,165 + I hope to look at one or + two specific areas in Asia. 63 - 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:18,589 - Will they introduce us as + 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:22,659 + Next Wednesday, I + wanted to do the same 64 - 00:04:18,589 --> 00:04:21,515 - a No people come to - live in the village + 00:03:22,659 --> 00:03:26,725 + with one or two particular + countries in Africa. 65 - 00:04:21,515 --> 00:04:27,514 - and they tie lake - a very cheerful, + 00:03:26,725 --> 00:03:29,980 + That following Friday, I've 66 - 00:04:27,514 --> 00:04:30,350 - trying to make us happy - to leave with them. + 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:34,229 + invited Charlie D1, + Chippewa Indian 67 - 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:32,494 - And they asked us to help. + 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:36,769 + To come to focus in on 68 - 00:04:32,494 --> 00:04:35,899 - Little whatever they've - been assigned to + 00:03:36,769 --> 00:03:40,579 + mission the Christian church + within the Indian community, 69 - 00:04:35,899 --> 00:04:39,560 - do, Hokkaido will occur. + 00:03:40,579 --> 00:03:42,680 + particularly here in Minnesota. 70 - 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,964 - So we're most of the tasks - agricultural planting? + 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,769 + Charlie d1, if an Indian + himself, as I've mentioned, 71 - 00:04:42,964 --> 00:04:45,919 - Yes. Okay. Today, were you + 00:03:45,769 --> 00:03:48,110 + and he's been acquainted with 72 - 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:49,504 - involved with road construction, - anything like that? + 00:03:48,110 --> 00:03:50,749 + the activities of the + American Indian Movement, 73 - 00:04:49,504 --> 00:04:51,259 - Mostly agricultural tasks? + 00:03:50,749 --> 00:03:52,760 + has been involved with + that in the past. 74 - 00:04:51,259 --> 00:04:55,009 - No. The first three months just + 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,309 + Now, working on the health + needs of the Indians 75 - 00:04:55,009 --> 00:05:00,530 - only taking irrigation - water plan for that place. + 00:03:55,309 --> 00:03:59,280 + in Minneapolis is + a Christian man. 76 - 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:04,519 - And then after three months, + 00:04:01,059 --> 00:04:03,770 + >> Okay, I think we're all set. 77 - 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:07,160 - they send us mad - because that time is + 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:11,375 + Well, I came in 1910 and + gardeners still there. 78 - 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,294 - the time to plan race. + 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:14,765 + My brother was kind of an + assistant productive guard. 79 - 00:05:10,294 --> 00:05:13,669 - So they send us mat and - we cannot do anymore. + 00:04:14,765 --> 00:04:18,530 + He had charged to the + making the schedules for 80 - 00:05:13,669 --> 00:05:16,970 - I'm going to have to heavy rain. + 00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:20,165 + the students and and 81 - 00:05:16,970 --> 00:05:19,730 - So let's come back to - the village trying to - - 82 - 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:23,399 - plan to help the other - people. Don't care. + 00:04:20,165 --> 00:04:21,680 + different students + had different jobs. + + 82 + 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,479 + They want to get away + early and could they 83 - 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,339 - How, what would be a - typical workday in terms + 00:04:23,479 --> 00:04:25,640 + get the classes personally + in the morning? 84 - 00:05:28,339 --> 00:05:31,220 - of in terms of the amount of - time that you would work, + 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,740 + And one teacher that's + missed Swensen came 85 - 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:33,020 - when would you start - in the morning + 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:29,749 + to St. Paul and she she wanted 86 - 00:05:33,020 --> 00:05:35,060 - and end at the end of the day. + 00:04:29,749 --> 00:04:32,420 + to not have to come 87 - 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:38,105 - First year that the - Khmer Rouge took over. + 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:33,619 + early and she wanted to leave 88 - 00:05:38,105 --> 00:05:40,789 - The work hours not really tie + 00:04:33,619 --> 00:04:35,840 + early because she had + something on my brother. 89 - 00:05:40,789 --> 00:05:44,615 - like the old farmer used to work. + 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,629 + He he'd work on act on + that schedule and every 90 - 00:05:44,615 --> 00:05:46,699 - In the morning. We get up, + 00:04:38,629 --> 00:04:42,959 + year he got everybody. + It is a miracle 91 - 00:05:46,699 --> 00:05:49,250 - usually have a tiny plate first + 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:48,950 + by the light, be the token + with my big brother. 92 - 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:51,499 - a little bit and start to go to + 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:51,710 + And he has meant I could + tell it to read my books. 93 - 00:05:51,499 --> 00:05:56,915 - the feel about nine AM - and until the sunset. + 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:55,190 + Sometimes they attribute data. 94 - 00:05:56,915 --> 00:06:00,139 - Combat home. Okay. That - was the first year. + 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:58,625 + We just opened it and + remember that influences. 95 - 00:06:00,139 --> 00:06:02,735 - They did things - change after there. + 00:04:58,625 --> 00:05:03,425 + Well anyway, he'd been + went the other way. 96 - 00:06:02,735 --> 00:06:06,050 - And then Neitzsche - years they start + 00:05:03,425 --> 00:05:06,680 + We were working a lot with + little fellow. I was there. 97 - 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:08,839 - to trying to push people to + 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,090 + I was five years, 98 - 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:14,990 - the mall by trying + 00:05:08,090 --> 00:05:09,515 + almost five years + younger than he. 99 - 00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:16,399 - to wake up people early in + 00:05:09,515 --> 00:05:12,110 + And he picked up that used + to pick up cigar butts, 100 - 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:18,934 - the morning and go to the feel. + 00:05:12,110 --> 00:05:13,580 + cigarette butts, kitchen, 101 - 00:06:18,934 --> 00:06:23,315 - Okay. What time do you - think that that was? + 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:14,749 + I used to do with the OT do yet, 102 - 00:06:23,315 --> 00:06:25,549 - When when they would have you + 00:05:14,749 --> 00:05:16,145 + maybe probably not though. 103 - 00:06:25,549 --> 00:06:28,504 - sent you out to the - fields to start working? + 00:05:16,145 --> 00:05:17,989 + He picked up a cigar + and I thought it was 104 - 00:06:28,504 --> 00:06:32,509 - Nominee that they don't - have time and I don't know, + 00:05:17,989 --> 00:05:19,730 + going to do that. He + said, Henry with you. 105 - 00:06:32,509 --> 00:06:36,590 - but is it the sunrise on - everybody and need to get up. + 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:22,369 + Promise me one thing what I said, 106 - 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:39,470 - Ok. And was that was that + 00:05:22,369 --> 00:05:24,905 + but that she will + never smoke on age. 107 - 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:41,374 - the way the workday + 00:05:24,905 --> 00:05:27,590 + Now he he could've + done something else. 108 - 00:06:41,374 --> 00:06:43,144 - went for the rest of the - time you were there? + 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:29,719 + You know, top deaths + would and I said, 109 - 00:06:43,144 --> 00:06:45,245 - Sunrise to sunset? - Yeah, absolutely. + 00:05:29,719 --> 00:05:31,025 + sure, I promise you. 110 - 00:06:45,245 --> 00:06:48,740 - Sometime when the out they need + 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:33,799 + Well, I don't know how + strong that promise was, 111 - 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:52,309 - to finish and then - they don't have + 00:05:33,799 --> 00:05:35,570 + but I knew I never + did and never smoked 112 - 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:54,559 - enough time to do the push - that to live at night + 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:37,910 + cigarette smoke smoke cigarettes? 113 - 00:06:54,559 --> 00:06:59,690 - to become home and a little bit, + 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:40,220 + Of course not. But that's + the way he could've led me. 114 - 00:06:59,690 --> 00:07:01,849 - and then we must go back again. + 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:43,175 + As I say in the book, + he led me down. 115 - 00:07:01,849 --> 00:07:07,130 - Okay. I've heard that, + 00:05:43,175 --> 00:05:46,295 + He led me up and all + the rest of the way. 116 - 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:09,619 - that they would have - educational seminars + 00:05:46,295 --> 00:05:47,600 + He wish he would want to 117 - 00:07:09,619 --> 00:07:12,679 - to to learn the - philosophy of Pol Pot. + 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,550 + encourage them into + everything you've ever done. 118 - 00:07:12,679 --> 00:07:14,750 - Did they do that at, + 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:52,430 + I'm going to quit school, + go to school, you should. 119 - 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:17,180 - at your village where you stayed? + 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:56,990 + Henry and I went and I mean, 120 - 00:07:17,180 --> 00:07:21,350 - Jealously? They do - at the lunchtime. + 00:05:56,990 --> 00:05:59,059 + he persuaded me and just all 121 - 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:23,090 - When people have a break. + 00:05:59,059 --> 00:06:01,880 + the way through, + he'd been wonderful. 122 - 00:07:23,090 --> 00:07:25,175 - After eating a little bit, + 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,970 + Well, he came, he + became principal. 123 - 00:07:25,175 --> 00:07:30,889 - the group leader choose - to give some advice + 00:06:04,970 --> 00:06:07,279 + Then after Dr. Gore had left 124 - 00:07:30,889 --> 00:07:32,990 - and trying to ask about + 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,320 + and he loved music, 125 - 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:35,300 - the background for the new people + 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,150 + used to sing songs. + We sing duets. 126 - 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:37,504 - that come to live in the VLA. + 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:13,054 + You can do it on the telephone, 127 - 00:07:37,504 --> 00:07:43,325 - And sometime they do at NIH - after we finished split, + 00:06:13,054 --> 00:06:15,425 + country telephone, + and in the churches. 128 - 00:07:43,325 --> 00:07:46,099 - they obey, asked to - have a meeting to learn + 00:06:15,425 --> 00:06:17,814 + And the first show me saying I'm 129 - 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:49,625 - about the that new philosophy. + 00:06:17,814 --> 00:06:20,134 + inviting some of the song 130 - 00:07:49,625 --> 00:07:51,559 - Was that usually every, + 00:06:20,134 --> 00:06:22,700 + and matter railroads + were saying everywhere. 131 - 00:07:51,559 --> 00:07:54,484 - every day, that that - would take place. + 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:27,440 + And then ten or ending soprano, - 132 - 00:07:54,484 --> 00:07:56,930 - The first years, not every day, + 132 + 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 + I guess Japan or Beijing. 133 - 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:59,945 - but kind like a - almost every week. + 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,540 + And he'd come home from + college, Williams Jr. College. 134 - 00:07:59,945 --> 00:08:01,950 - Okay. + 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:37,159 + We take a long walk and + you tell me everything 135 - 00:08:10,660 --> 00:08:13,054 - Did did they + 00:06:37,159 --> 00:06:39,125 + happened in a school + and everything. 136 - 00:08:13,054 --> 00:08:16,159 - ask you about your - background at all? + 00:06:39,125 --> 00:06:42,680 + He was he was just a terrific + influence in my life. 137 - 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:19,250 - They did. Okay. But I lie. + 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,590 + And I've got that + written up in the book. 138 - 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:21,184 - And what would you tell them? + 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:48,995 + When it came to music + used to sing solos 139 - 00:08:21,184 --> 00:08:26,165 - I told them I was a stone - and they believe it + 00:06:48,995 --> 00:06:52,190 + He was also an athlete who's + on the varsity football team 140 - 00:08:26,165 --> 00:08:28,340 - because I was young - that time and I'm + 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:55,160 + at Williams College + and Kansas City there. 141 - 00:08:28,340 --> 00:08:31,160 - not married and I was - not meant at that time. + 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,509 + And so when he became principal, 142 - 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,469 - What would happen if you - told them your background? + 00:06:59,509 --> 00:07:03,590 + the Academy, he could + use those talents. 143 - 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,454 - When I was there - the first few Day, + 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:08,570 + And the organized + every year a may, 144 - 00:08:39,454 --> 00:08:42,050 - the people that I live with, + 00:07:08,570 --> 00:07:11,119 + of course, metal Academy gave 145 - 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:46,069 - they told me how to sit, + 00:07:11,119 --> 00:07:12,950 + a concert that twin + city church and we 146 - 00:08:46,069 --> 00:08:51,349 - Why don't tell - everything to truth. + 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:15,035 + were the pet to the + Trinity Church. 147 - 00:08:51,349 --> 00:09:00,620 - And because they have that - family have some feeling, + 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:17,120 + There little opposition + between Chicago 148 - 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:04,415 - one to help us to survive - during that time. + 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,070 + and Cemetery and academy. 149 - 00:09:04,415 --> 00:09:13,354 - So they told her to destroy - all kind of identification. + 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:21,799 + There's kind of a fiction + friction there in 150 - 00:09:13,354 --> 00:09:18,619 - Some work may be that - I brought with us, + 00:07:21,799 --> 00:07:25,190 + a mild way or sheep and they + turn out they pack a chair. 151 - 00:09:18,619 --> 00:09:22,370 - gave to the people that - because they don't + 00:07:25,190 --> 00:07:26,449 + It can never that + contract came out 152 - 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:26,450 - have paper to roll the tobacco. + 00:07:26,449 --> 00:07:27,830 + from Bethel Academy and for 153 - 00:09:26,450 --> 00:09:28,429 - So as good as you - gave it to them, + 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:31,279 + other things for Bethel + Academy. And then 154 - 00:09:28,429 --> 00:09:31,650 - you don't keep it. - That mean safe. + 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:35,630 + he had an amusing and then + his athletic prowess. 155 - 00:09:34,330 --> 00:09:37,730 - If you what about + 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:38,360 + And he was able to lead the + boys athletics and leave 156 - 00:09:37,730 --> 00:09:41,565 - your background would make - them suspicious of you? + 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,285 + the field day athletic. 157 - 00:09:41,565 --> 00:09:43,505 - Would it be because - you were a police? + 00:07:41,285 --> 00:07:44,570 + And he did a great work + and quiet Pele and up. 158 - 00:09:43,505 --> 00:09:46,520 - Policemen and at - Phnom Penh city or or + 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:46,699 + But he yeah, that's 159 - 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,590 - because of your family background + 00:07:46,699 --> 00:07:48,530 + the way he's been IBS + you pretend there for 160 - 00:09:48,590 --> 00:09:49,670 - in terms of your parents + 00:07:48,530 --> 00:07:52,820 + 50 years and more and he's + still a strength in that. 161 - 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:52,940 - were shopkeepers or what - would it be that they are + 00:07:52,820 --> 00:07:55,670 + Chair members of the + Board of Trustees 162 - 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:57,140 - the Khmer Rouge would - not like to commando, + 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:58,220 + he picked up on the street + and come to Sunday School. 163 - 00:09:57,140 --> 00:10:00,004 - don't like people in the office. + 00:07:58,220 --> 00:07:59,870 + The man that shipped + in the Sunday School 164 - 00:10:00,004 --> 00:10:03,379 - And also they don't lie to - people that have lice can lie. + 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:02,490 + picked him years ago. 165 - 00:10:03,379 --> 00:10:08,240 - My stop. They all they - accused SLS alike. + 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:06,395 + Tell me a story about that. 166 - 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,209 - Vietnamese, all the ethnic group. + 00:08:06,395 --> 00:08:08,180 + And it's a real all + the way through. 167 - 00:10:14,209 --> 00:10:18,965 - We are not really pill - a 100% Cambodian. + 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:09,889 + I was coming from + some meetings up in 168 - 00:10:18,965 --> 00:10:24,804 - Okay. Your experience there, + 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:14,090 + northern Minnesota and + I was on a bus Sunday 169 - 00:10:24,804 --> 00:10:26,584 - did you yourself, + 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:17,599 + night and Bush was almost + empty and I show how to get 170 - 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:29,120 - were you ever subjected - to physical abuse + 00:08:17,599 --> 00:08:18,950 + on the bus kind of 171 - 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,320 - or abused in any way while - you were in the village? + 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:21,290 + drunk and another fellow + saying goodbye to him. 172 - 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,575 - Boat? They have physical abuse, + 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:23,480 + And I kind of hope + selfishly you wouldn't sit 173 - 00:10:39,575 --> 00:10:45,125 - have a mentally or - mental abuse. He had. + 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,409 + down drug or clinic Christian, 174 - 00:10:45,125 --> 00:10:48,110 - The Khmer Rouge tend to + 00:08:27,409 --> 00:08:29,720 + you know, and he 175 - 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:51,080 - eliminate the people from + 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,600 + came and said that + brings you to pull out. 176 - 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,869 - the city because they accuse us. + 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,960 + His players have a + great favor, vacuous. 177 - 00:10:57,060 --> 00:11:02,080 - A strange person that - never were and a farm and + 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,294 + And he took it pretty soon again, 178 - 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,804 - the person that always take - advantage over the farmer. + 00:08:40,294 --> 00:08:42,410 + you know, we had it + would have a drink. 179 - 00:11:06,804 --> 00:11:09,535 - Because of the Khmer Rouge. + 00:08:42,410 --> 00:08:46,324 + Neighbor actually about + the third time he said 180 - 00:11:09,535 --> 00:11:12,955 - Most of them the farmer. + 00:08:46,324 --> 00:08:48,290 + by any chance him and it's true. 181 - 00:11:12,955 --> 00:11:18,954 - And they have a background - that very low education. + 00:08:48,290 --> 00:08:50,060 + And I told him what I was doing. 182 - 00:11:18,954 --> 00:11:22,270 - And they don't like - the city people + 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:51,350 + Oh, I'm so sorry. 183 - 00:11:22,270 --> 00:11:26,634 - that used to take - Atlantic from them. + 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:56,135 + He said, hi, I don't + drink, I don't dream. 184 - 00:11:26,634 --> 00:11:30,054 - And then it kind like - we went for them. + 00:08:56,135 --> 00:08:57,590 + But, you know, it's terrible. 185 - 00:11:30,054 --> 00:11:33,504 - But I don't know about - the tomato philosophy. + 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:58,730 + I'm going back to the worn 186 - 00:11:33,504 --> 00:11:38,379 - But this is yes, - only the the feeling + 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,695 + out going back to + our station there. 187 - 00:11:38,379 --> 00:11:41,310 - that I feel that time. + 00:09:00,695 --> 00:09:03,605 + And I just have my wife + and children with his 188 - 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:44,240 - Did you were you yourself, + 00:09:03,605 --> 00:09:06,950 + with her folks know I'm going + back and it's terrible. 189 - 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,530 - personally subjected to any - abuse by the Khmer Rouge? + 00:09:06,950 --> 00:09:07,970 + What do you think about this? 190 - 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:51,349 - Yeah. What can you - do you remember + 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:09,499 + War is a terrible, 191 - 00:11:51,349 --> 00:11:55,475 - any specific incidents - that occur at one time? + 00:09:09,499 --> 00:09:11,285 + terrible, and so on. 192 - 00:11:55,475 --> 00:11:57,365 - They said me too. + 00:09:11,285 --> 00:09:12,920 + And then he told me, 193 - 00:11:57,365 --> 00:12:03,605 - We're at to trying - to make a water dam. + 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,155 + you belong in the + spiritualist church. 194 - 00:12:03,605 --> 00:12:15,120 - And the they call Stan sign - as part of a not Cambodia. + 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:16,640 + He belonged who had + come to church, 195 - 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:20,389 - And that tiny from sunrise to + 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,440 + which they're kind people. 196 - 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:23,209 - sunset and then come to + 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,289 + And about Jerry, he said, + I don't want to drink, 197 - 00:12:23,209 --> 00:12:27,779 - the borough that they - bill for a to slip. + 00:09:21,289 --> 00:09:23,119 + but he got into this + just to kinda shoe 198 - 00:12:27,970 --> 00:12:34,429 - And when the work is - not done on time, + 00:09:23,119 --> 00:09:25,745 + this mind and, and all of that. 199 - 00:12:34,429 --> 00:12:37,669 - they asked us to work - at NIH after dinner. + 00:09:25,745 --> 00:09:29,045 + And he said, you know, I + live in Minneapolis, I work 200 - 00:12:37,669 --> 00:12:39,650 - Most of the time, they did not + 00:09:29,045 --> 00:09:31,880 + and there's a fellow + came and picked 201 - 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:42,034 - allow us to come to - the burrow to eat. + 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,889 + up my little boy + comes from layer, 202 - 00:12:42,034 --> 00:12:44,675 - They have the cook + 00:09:33,889 --> 00:09:35,450 + which suddenly went + on Abraham and he 203 - 00:12:44,675 --> 00:12:49,714 - that brought the Dina to - the place that we work. + 00:09:35,450 --> 00:09:37,040 + said he took that boil. 204 - 00:12:49,714 --> 00:12:53,660 - And then they are - just distribute each + 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,110 + All I said was a name wing blade. 205 - 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:58,489 - played for us to eat for a - while above half an hour, + 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:40,640 + Yes. He said do you know him? 206 - 00:12:58,489 --> 00:13:02,405 - and then they start plus two + 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,160 + And I said, oh, 207 - 00:13:02,405 --> 00:13:07,759 - again until ten or 11:00 PM - until midnight sometime. + 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,259 + I want to write home to my + wife and tell her that I met 208 - 00:13:07,759 --> 00:13:11,549 - And their philosophy, + 00:09:45,259 --> 00:09:47,990 + a man on the bus + who knew that man 209 - 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:18,245 - the people that the leader - when they saw did not fitness. + 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:51,814 + made good progress and have 210 - 00:13:18,245 --> 00:13:19,789 - Even that posts that + 00:09:51,814 --> 00:09:53,689 + that whether we had the warm 211 - 00:13:19,789 --> 00:13:22,534 - tiny our hardware - that did not finish. + 00:09:53,689 --> 00:09:55,339 + talked all the way + to Minneapolis, 212 - 00:13:22,534 --> 00:13:24,859 - And then they start a new idea. + 00:09:55,339 --> 00:09:57,350 + had a wonderful time, really did. 213 - 00:13:24,859 --> 00:13:28,759 - Say, Daddy, why a piece of land? + 00:09:57,350 --> 00:09:59,344 + And when I got home, 214 - 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,580 - If you dig it fast, + 00:09:59,344 --> 00:10:02,764 + I called my brother + has about 111130 215 - 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:32,795 - you can get finished. + 00:10:02,764 --> 00:10:05,450 + and he gave me the + name of the boy. 216 - 00:13:32,795 --> 00:13:36,080 - Their part that they - gave it to her to do. + 00:10:05,450 --> 00:10:07,580 + Let's call them sandwich burnout. 217 - 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,094 - You can go to the - broad sleep early. + 00:10:07,580 --> 00:10:09,109 + And I call my brothers + or do you know 218 - 00:13:39,094 --> 00:13:41,120 - And some people are trying to do + 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:10,895 + Sam? Did you ever pick him? 219 - 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,890 - that to get faster - and then so they can + 00:10:10,895 --> 00:10:12,470 + By the name of the father, 220 - 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:45,530 - have time come back - to have a lat of + 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:14,360 + I guess I said and I said, 221 - 00:13:45,530 --> 00:13:47,045 - find something to aid because + 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,970 + You know, somebody so-and-so + had a boy who picked up. 222 - 00:13:47,045 --> 00:13:49,220 - they don't have - enough food to eat. + 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:18,560 + Oh, yeah, that was damnation. 223 - 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:51,199 - And later on people, + 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,290 + Yes, I picked him. I never + could get them to come. 224 - 00:13:51,199 --> 00:13:54,455 - but I'm trying too hard - to finish their part. + 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:23,690 + But PK Well, that's my brother. 225 - 00:13:54,455 --> 00:13:59,060 - And then they increase the - portion of work load so + 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:29,389 + You see she now all the + way through and right now, 226 - 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,589 - until nobody can finish - before the one at the combat. + 00:10:29,389 --> 00:10:30,920 + each advisor for the pasture 227 - 00:14:05,950 --> 00:14:09,529 - Do Do you recall + 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,510 + pasture tapes that + have really changed 228 - 00:14:09,529 --> 00:14:14,419 - any incidents witnessing any - incidents where where people + 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:36,815 + you in the in the church + and even in a loving way. 229 - 00:14:14,419 --> 00:14:22,970 - were killed or just disappeared - or beaten at that time. + 00:10:36,815 --> 00:10:40,835 + He believes in prayer and + he prays for everything. 230 - 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:25,459 - And 197 needs seven, + 00:10:40,835 --> 00:10:43,160 + Well, now let's see what else. 231 - 00:14:25,459 --> 00:14:29,720 - same one of my friend + 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,085 + I know the time came to + unite the two schools. 232 - 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:36,019 - when two were from the same - village and he disappear. + 00:10:46,085 --> 00:10:48,080 + Chicago churches were pretty 233 - 00:14:36,019 --> 00:14:38,839 - I don't know what the reason why. + 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,404 + strong to keep the + seminary in Chicago, 234 - 00:14:38,839 --> 00:14:43,984 - Because they accuse - him that he's not very + 00:10:50,404 --> 00:10:53,135 + but they didn't raise any + money to do anything about it. 235 - 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:52,774 - active that trying to - against their philosophy. + 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:54,755 + Many soda. 236 - 00:14:52,774 --> 00:14:57,694 - But actually he's - really tired his sakes. + 00:10:54,755 --> 00:10:55,895 + The academy was here. 237 - 00:14:57,694 --> 00:15:02,389 - He got diarrhea and he went + 00:10:55,895 --> 00:10:57,050 + We had one building 238 - 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:04,849 - into the the forest + 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:58,475 + anyway, they didn't + have any building. 239 - 00:15:04,849 --> 00:15:08,464 - nearby because he got diary, - he cannot stay there. + 00:10:58,475 --> 00:11:00,380 + They borrowed buildings + from Chicago University 240 - 00:15:08,464 --> 00:15:12,559 - And they accuse him that - trying to get away from birth. + 00:11:00,380 --> 00:11:01,715 + that they didn't have their own, 241 - 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:16,085 - And later on, after that night, + 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:03,305 + just about we can shape 242 - 00:15:16,085 --> 00:15:18,274 - next day, we didn't see him. + 00:11:03,305 --> 00:11:05,480 + and but we had that + academy building. 243 - 00:15:18,274 --> 00:15:20,479 - And they're told - that they send him + 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,170 + Michelle and Dr. + Laura said, oh good, 244 - 00:15:20,479 --> 00:15:22,849 - back to the village pub. + 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:13,895 + that'll build little rat hole. 245 - 00:15:22,849 --> 00:15:24,259 - When we came back after we + 00:11:13,895 --> 00:11:16,620 + I think he used that + word in Swedish, 246 - 00:15:24,259 --> 00:15:26,420 - finished work over - there about six months. + 00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:21,140 + but he was riots but does go now. 247 - 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:28,325 - I didn't see him at our + 00:11:21,140 --> 00:11:22,189 + They had Home George, 248 - 00:15:28,325 --> 00:15:31,309 - so I don't know - where they take it. + 00:11:22,189 --> 00:11:23,870 + professors, they had nice homes. 249 - 00:15:31,309 --> 00:15:33,545 - Did this happen very often + 00:11:23,870 --> 00:11:25,759 + And in Morgan Park, you know, 250 - 00:15:33,545 --> 00:15:35,509 - where people would - disappear like that? + 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,505 + kind of neighborhood like this, + there's only not so good. 251 - 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:38,300 - Usely, it happened to the people + 00:11:28,505 --> 00:11:30,335 + And they did whether Lee, 252 - 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:42,785 - that a blanket from the city. + 00:11:30,335 --> 00:11:31,400 + Dr. hid, the inductor, 253 - 00:15:42,785 --> 00:15:46,745 - But for the people - they call all people, + 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,019 + Sandel doctor, lawyer in, 254 - 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:50,210 - they tend to try and + 00:11:33,019 --> 00:11:35,209 + maybe somebody else. And, 255 - 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:55,474 - to that we educate them or - send them to let them place. + 00:11:35,209 --> 00:11:38,689 + and they voted on the, + the, the conference, 256 - 00:15:55,474 --> 00:15:57,469 - Okay. So you're feeling is + 00:11:38,689 --> 00:11:41,810 + decided to let all the + churches in the country in 257 - 00:15:57,469 --> 00:16:00,559 - that if one was - identified as has, + 00:11:41,810 --> 00:11:43,759 + the conference vote on whether it 258 - 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,360 - having lived in the city, + 00:11:43,759 --> 00:11:46,130 + should be in Chicago, + orange, St. Paul. 259 - 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,339 - that the Khmer Rouge would try + 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:48,484 + In the meantime, + there's a little dip, 260 - 00:16:04,339 --> 00:16:06,229 - to systematically break them + 00:11:48,484 --> 00:11:51,110 + maybe 3 thousand I mentioned + to you by thousand, 261 - 00:16:06,229 --> 00:16:11,789 - down and ultimately - killed them. Yeah. Okay. + 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:53,330 + eight thousand on the academy. 262 - 00:16:14,590 --> 00:16:21,240 - We're As far as + 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:54,830 + And they had the Academy to 263 - 00:16:22,570 --> 00:16:27,065 - the deaths of of people - in that village, + 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:56,944 + give degenerate + handprints. That building 264 - 00:16:27,065 --> 00:16:29,150 - was it usually the case + 00:11:56,944 --> 00:11:59,869 + we had nothing to offer. + And so they got busy 265 - 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:31,609 - where violence was - involved or was it a case + 00:11:59,869 --> 00:12:01,429 + raising money to pay 266 - 00:16:31,609 --> 00:16:36,035 - of just disappearances and - also perhaps starving people, + 00:12:01,429 --> 00:12:03,965 + off that mortgage and + they're paid it off. 267 - 00:16:36,035 --> 00:16:38,119 - and they would just - break down and die + 00:12:03,965 --> 00:12:06,409 + And then they could + say, Now we'll give 268 - 00:16:38,119 --> 00:16:40,579 - from illness or, - or a lack of food. + 00:12:06,409 --> 00:12:09,320 + that building to degenerate + whatever they can do with it. 269 - 00:16:40,579 --> 00:16:42,484 - Did that happen more frequently? + 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,270 + And that that's a 270 - 00:16:42,484 --> 00:16:44,179 - Almost everyday. + 00:12:11,270 --> 00:12:13,310 + clear and gave it to + him. He told paid up. 271 - 00:16:44,179 --> 00:16:50,014 - People that die by lacking a - full and also the illness, + 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:15,605 + Well then when churches voted, 272 - 00:16:50,014 --> 00:16:52,370 - they common disease is + 00:12:15,605 --> 00:12:17,840 + they voted overwhelmingly to move 273 - 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:56,330 - diarrhea and starvation because + 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,120 + the seminary to St. Paul. 274 - 00:16:56,330 --> 00:16:58,294 - they don't have - enough food to eat. + 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,935 + In 1912, we had terrible + January Conference in Chicago. 275 - 00:16:58,294 --> 00:17:03,980 - And some people die by accusing. + 00:12:27,935 --> 00:12:30,170 + And they were talking + back and forth, 276 - 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:06,349 - Are there background? + 00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:33,770 + hot and heavy and something + like this committee going 277 - 00:17:06,349 --> 00:17:08,074 - If they found out live? + 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:38,390 + on in New York + afternoon, Watergate. 278 - 00:17:08,074 --> 00:17:11,464 - My friend, he was the pilot. + 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:41,330 + The senators were fighting 279 - 00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:18,844 - And the reason that they - know him because he brought + 00:12:41,330 --> 00:12:42,980 + yesterday to hear on the radio. 280 - 00:17:18,844 --> 00:17:26,240 - a if made at that time when - he was in Phnom Penh city, + 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:45,440 + They call each other well, 281 - 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,830 - he had irwin made as + 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,180 + but they were very hot and heavy. - 282 - 00:17:27,830 --> 00:17:31,204 - that allele girl - about 1010 years old. + 282 + 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:54,005 + They the 19201912, but + they didn't get anywhere. 283 - 00:17:31,204 --> 00:17:34,100 - And she's the real Cambodian + 00:12:54,005 --> 00:12:55,970 + But they voted to + have the converse and 284 - 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:37,130 - cared because see have - a different math skin. + 00:12:55,970 --> 00:12:58,475 + next year in 1913 into Lou, 285 - 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:41,329 - And he brought - Herbert and told her + 00:12:58,475 --> 00:13:01,130 + and that became the + Peace Conference. 286 - 00:17:41,329 --> 00:17:45,184 - because that time her - parent was separate, + 00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:02,840 + Oh, and there's a + wonderful spirit 287 - 00:17:45,184 --> 00:17:47,795 - B cannot leave her alone. + 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,070 + and that got, + remember, I didn't go. 288 - 00:17:47,795 --> 00:17:50,525 - And she wanted to - come along when when + 00:13:04,070 --> 00:13:05,945 + He just learned + beside themselves. 289 - 00:17:50,525 --> 00:17:53,914 - he took her with - two layered there, + 00:13:05,945 --> 00:13:08,810 + Didn't go. But they want to + they were wished he had come. 290 - 00:17:53,914 --> 00:17:57,079 - they look at is not - like a relative or + 00:13:08,810 --> 00:13:14,660 + And then they voted to go right + ahead in the Twin Cities. 291 - 00:17:57,079 --> 00:18:01,460 - threatened or something - because of the appearance. + 00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:15,889 + That's a recommendation of 292 - 00:18:01,460 --> 00:18:05,360 - And later on, that - girl, when she grow up, + 00:13:15,889 --> 00:13:18,470 + gender conference, + almost two to one. 293 - 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,990 - see toll everything - about our background + 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:21,245 + I don't remember exactly + what the poison the churches 294 - 00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:12,890 - that she news than they found out + 00:13:21,245 --> 00:13:23,570 + And that and they voted not here 295 - 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:20,735 - that he was pilot and - they tried to kill him. + 00:13:23,570 --> 00:13:25,580 + to I crashed in this thing. 296 - 00:18:20,735 --> 00:18:28,414 - But he tried to make it - work as hard as he can to + 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:27,425 + They call Dr. angstrom 297 - 00:18:28,414 --> 00:18:32,610 - fulfill their + 00:13:27,425 --> 00:13:29,900 + to be the first + president of the school. 298 - 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,635 - what is say, their commitment. + 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:31,729 + Now doctor asked him, 299 - 00:18:39,635 --> 00:18:43,190 - But one day they make + 00:13:31,729 --> 00:13:33,739 + was a boy who sold newspapers 300 - 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:47,615 - a the whole relate chain + 00:13:33,739 --> 00:13:35,825 + on the streets of Minneapolis. 301 - 00:18:47,615 --> 00:18:52,205 - by moving people from one - relate to another really. + 00:13:35,825 --> 00:13:37,309 + He was wonderfully converted to 302 - 00:18:52,205 --> 00:18:56,195 - And that time is the time - that the more people + 00:13:37,309 --> 00:13:38,629 + enter Dr. Frank Peterson in 303 - 00:18:56,195 --> 00:19:00,319 - the access to Pat and unmute - during that NIH, no warning. + 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:42,079 + the meeting saying he + could talk Swedish, 304 - 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:02,435 - So at the at night, + 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:44,255 + but he knew English, of course. 305 - 00:19:02,435 --> 00:19:04,549 - that night they told - everybody need to + 00:13:44,255 --> 00:13:47,389 + And when Dr. Frank Peterson, 306 - 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:07,639 - Pat and to move to another - village because that, + 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:50,809 + who is Chair of President + pasture that church sent Arvin, 307 - 00:19:07,639 --> 00:19:12,199 - that the new will need more - people to finish their work. + 00:13:50,809 --> 00:13:52,549 + takes him to Chicago to 308 - 00:19:12,199 --> 00:19:15,799 - And then they send - them through DNA. + 00:13:52,549 --> 00:13:54,830 + the seminary logger + and said to him, 309 - 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:18,170 - And later on I found out that he + 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:56,780 + we can't use you + your canto treaty. 310 - 00:19:18,170 --> 00:19:20,990 - die because I saw - belonging that they + 00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:59,315 + How can we use your niche + where you can talk treaty? 311 - 00:19:20,990 --> 00:19:24,800 - took from them and distributed - to their old people to use + 00:13:59,315 --> 00:14:01,190 + Frank Peters and + wrote a letter to Dr. 312 - 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,244 - that little girl that - that lived with him? + 00:14:01,190 --> 00:14:04,339 + logging that you just see that 313 - 00:19:30,244 --> 00:19:32,960 - I did. Who did she live + 00:14:04,339 --> 00:14:06,619 + he said if you are + going to send back, 314 - 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,795 - with after they move - to the nowadays? + 00:14:06,619 --> 00:14:08,900 + the boys were sent to + you to the seminary. 315 - 00:19:35,795 --> 00:19:39,695 - Her they took her to live - with death and family. + 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:12,590 + You better go back to + sweep because I'm English. 316 - 00:19:39,695 --> 00:19:44,345 - Okay. Because the have - some problem fighting, + 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:16,369 + Well anyway, IIT logo meant well, 317 - 00:19:44,345 --> 00:19:46,565 - arguing because at the food, + 00:14:16,369 --> 00:14:18,785 + he wouldn't quite strong + as I've said put it. 318 - 00:19:46,565 --> 00:19:49,340 - not enough food to eat - and people tried to set + 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:22,160 + And but takes from his + trembled Wesley's Swedish now. 319 - 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:52,730 - Y and they steal from - each ADA to eat. + 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,660 + He preaches Swedish churches. 320 - 00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:54,620 - And then they saw that we + 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:25,970 + He would write it in English and 321 - 00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:58,115 - have in the night that and - then they split family. + 00:14:25,970 --> 00:14:29,195 + then his wife would helping + translated into Swedish. 322 - 00:19:58,115 --> 00:20:02,869 - Even myself, I split to lay - that defend family and he, + 00:14:29,195 --> 00:14:31,205 + And then he would + preach Swedish issue 323 - 00:20:02,869 --> 00:20:05,675 - that his widely different family. + 00:14:31,205 --> 00:14:33,110 + that to wait, you struggle alone. 324 - 00:20:05,675 --> 00:20:07,559 - Okay. + 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:36,770 + He became pastor of + Chicago when he was 30. 325 - 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:17,089 - So was 1979 + 00:14:36,770 --> 00:14:40,084 + And he was missionary around + their four-year gentlemen, 326 - 00:20:17,089 --> 00:20:20,480 - when the Vietnamese - invaded Cambodia, + 00:14:40,084 --> 00:14:41,105 + but can use 30. 327 - 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,199 - was the first time you - fled from the village. + 00:14:41,105 --> 00:14:42,710 + He was called a + Chicago first year. 328 - 00:20:24,199 --> 00:20:26,749 - Were there ever other incidents + 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:44,540 + It's a large church + in our conference. 329 - 00:20:26,749 --> 00:20:31,865 - that they I I thought - the Vietnamese. + 00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:48,200 + And he was the outstanding + pasture in our conference. 330 - 00:20:31,865 --> 00:20:36,544 - Came by because I live - near the highway. + 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,135 + And he had the + outstanding church. 331 - 00:20:36,544 --> 00:20:38,660 - And I saw that and + 00:14:50,135 --> 00:14:51,500 + He mixed with the leaders in 332 - 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,400 - all the Khmer Rouge leader + 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,270 + Chicago and get ideas, you know, 333 - 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,519 - escape the night before - because they knew they + 00:14:53,270 --> 00:14:54,859 + the big churches, pastors 334 - 00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:46,550 - have a radio that - they can listen to + 00:14:54,859 --> 00:14:57,170 + there went ten to their meetings. 335 - 00:20:46,550 --> 00:20:48,559 - the news through the radio + 00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:59,900 + And he was very progressive + and revivalist in the church. 336 - 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,720 - and also the, the escape before. + 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:01,550 + I should just said + we had revivals 337 - 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,489 - So this only the population + 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:03,770 + and Bethel Academy, + the old Asian. 338 - 00:20:52,489 --> 00:20:54,739 - that live in the - village stay there. + 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:07,834 + And wish we had the largest + missionary volunteer group 339 - 00:20:54,739 --> 00:20:58,909 - So the next day I saw the - Vietnamese troop came by and + 00:15:07,834 --> 00:15:09,529 + in the state university or 340 - 00:20:58,909 --> 00:21:03,485 - everybody thought that the - Cambodia was freeze again. + 00:15:09,529 --> 00:15:11,330 + college that has a + Medical Academy. 341 - 00:21:03,485 --> 00:21:06,139 - And then everybody - trying to get into + 00:15:11,330 --> 00:15:13,309 + And we had to rely much + things are happening 342 - 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:10,174 - the fear to grab our - rice that we can to + 00:15:13,309 --> 00:15:15,545 + that little Academy I told + you about a while ago. 343 - 00:21:10,174 --> 00:21:13,819 - protect so we can live for + 00:15:15,545 --> 00:15:18,859 + And whenever we reached + a 100 and even a 100, 344 - 00:21:13,819 --> 00:21:18,814 - while until we know what's - going on in the country. + 00:15:18,859 --> 00:15:22,550 + we took we took a holiday + when the attendance reached 345 - 00:21:18,814 --> 00:21:25,309 - And I live with the family - that I stayed there. + 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:26,450 + to pick a hundred two + hundred three hundred habit. 346 - 00:21:25,309 --> 00:21:28,015 - The whole during that + 00:15:26,450 --> 00:15:28,009 + I told that to the fact 347 - 00:21:28,015 --> 00:21:32,359 - Camaro tried to help - them to collect. + 00:15:28,009 --> 00:15:31,175 + that told the story + I'm telling you. 348 - 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,890 - Are the right, keep it. + 00:15:31,175 --> 00:15:35,930 + They would roar + every under revival. 349 - 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:36,740 - You get about a 100 pound + 00:15:35,930 --> 00:15:39,499 + And we had it Dr. Hicks them + at a commencement said, 350 - 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,184 - or something like that. Keep it. + 00:15:39,499 --> 00:15:42,649 + We may say What we will about + the seminar Academy that 351 - 00:21:39,184 --> 00:21:41,165 - And one week later, + 00:15:42,649 --> 00:15:43,864 + tell you that the academy 352 - 00:21:41,165 --> 00:21:42,980 - I made decision because + 00:15:43,864 --> 00:15:46,025 + emission school for + our conference, 353 - 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,260 - that time a lot of - people start moving to + 00:15:46,025 --> 00:15:47,915 + that's where the + missionaries runoff from 354 - 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:49,039 - their own town and + 00:15:47,915 --> 00:15:51,244 + Outstanding genres all crushed + and a whole bunch of them, 355 - 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:53,240 - they asked them that I'm - going to see my parents. + 00:15:51,244 --> 00:15:54,034 + quite a number of anyway, + Olivia, Jocelyn, therapy, 356 - 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,284 - And one week later I left. + 00:15:54,034 --> 00:15:57,650 + the retinal array and so on. 357 - 00:21:56,284 --> 00:22:00,574 - I travel almost about + 00:15:57,650 --> 00:16:00,500 + Now the two schools + came together. 358 - 00:22:00,574 --> 00:22:04,850 - two weeks and I reached - to my hometown. + 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,300 + 90 Put dr. Higgs jump. 359 - 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:07,505 - But when it yeah, - that the other firm. + 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:04,039 + It's just hidden between + the eyes when they, 360 - 00:22:07,505 --> 00:22:10,535 - Okay. Were you able to - locate your parents? + 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:05,840 + when they voted him + to be president. 361 - 00:22:10,535 --> 00:22:13,819 - I know that and that - time my parents did + 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,654 + But he wasn't prepared for 362 - 00:22:13,819 --> 00:22:17,180 - not escape from the - Khmer Rouge yet because + 00:16:07,654 --> 00:16:10,205 + he said I prepared for the + patch the best I could. 363 - 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,780 - she was a bucket to add + 00:16:10,205 --> 00:16:13,220 + I'm not the man for that. + And he broke down and cried. 364 - 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:24,740 - new or different village - from my home town. + 00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:15,230 + Muhammad broke down + and cried when they 365 - 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:28,385 - That was your mother? My parents, + 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:17,120 + said he was very good. 366 - 00:22:28,385 --> 00:22:31,460 - my brother and my sister. + 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:25,459 + To remember that the + Carlisle tells that, 367 - 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:36,065 - Okay. When I came to - the my my old hometown, + 00:16:25,459 --> 00:16:29,359 + well, anyway, he said, 368 - 00:22:36,065 --> 00:22:39,335 - I saw only my my cousin + 00:16:29,359 --> 00:16:32,000 + I'll accept it, you pray, + and I'll accept it. 369 - 00:22:39,335 --> 00:22:42,845 - and the ADA relative - summed up my parents. + 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,510 + And so he resigned his + find shirts and loved you. 370 - 00:22:42,845 --> 00:22:44,900 - Your parents, brother and sister. + 00:16:35,510 --> 00:16:39,855 + Mentioned ten year end 371 - 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:49,519 - Were they all sit together - to the same village? + 00:16:39,855 --> 00:16:41,769 + Took over the presidency 372 - 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,590 - I didn't know, but they say that + 00:16:41,769 --> 00:16:43,135 + where we're going + to have an office. 373 - 00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:55,820 - the first year they send - altogether and later on, + 00:16:43,135 --> 00:16:45,444 + He said that wasn't money + and up in the treasury 374 - 00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:58,759 - my brother's split - up from them because + 00:16:45,444 --> 00:16:48,295 + of the school treasure + to go to the next town. 375 - 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:02,014 - of the economic No, + 00:16:48,295 --> 00:16:53,500 + There were no MIT + Scratch. Oh, no. 376 - 00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:04,474 - not enough food to eat so much, + 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:56,080 + He before that they + had elected him to 377 - 00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:08,719 - fled to the other area - trying to live by himself. + 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,050 + financial secretary + of the conference. 378 - 00:23:08,719 --> 00:23:15,274 - And that time, my pen worth - got how are my brother? - - 379 - 00:23:15,274 --> 00:23:20,640 - My younger brother - got home before them. + 00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:01,240 + So he had traveled in that way. + + 379 + 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,790 + He left the church and to + do that. And he traveled. 380 - 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,010 - Okay. What what village where + 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:05,470 + He visit every church conference 381 - 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:26,544 - your parents and sister - sent to? Where were they? + 00:17:05,470 --> 00:17:06,640 + without taking any vacation. 382 - 00:23:26,544 --> 00:23:28,449 - House was at near bottom mouth, + 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,335 + Took him two or three + years to do that. 383 - 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:32,890 - about 15 kilo meter - from Baltimore City + 00:17:08,335 --> 00:17:09,790 + And then he was that man. 384 - 00:23:32,890 --> 00:23:35,875 - along Highway phi k. + 00:17:09,790 --> 00:17:11,529 + He was General Secretary for 385 - 00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:39,230 - What was the name of that - village they call compound. + 00:17:11,529 --> 00:17:14,890 + the conference when he was + called to be president. 386 - 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,119 - And when the - vietnamese took over, + 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:16,780 + But he was up there in + Duluth and he went to D, 387 - 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,615 - when they heard that - Vietnamese to tame the Camaro, + 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:18,655 + said that I'm not + prepared for this, 388 - 00:23:46,615 --> 00:23:53,425 - evacuate them from that place - to along the highway, go. + 00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:22,470 + but he accepted if he says + you pray and we'll go ahead. 389 - 00:23:53,425 --> 00:23:57,804 - As Jill is the carlo. + 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:25,009 + And so he started with + nothing you might say 390 - 00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:03,199 - Today, moan or say city. + 00:17:25,009 --> 00:17:28,565 + except the grace of God + is fake and are paid. 391 - 00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:10,150 - Okay. And now, in my eye, + 00:17:28,565 --> 00:17:31,160 + But he started to raise money. 392 - 00:24:10,150 --> 00:24:14,109 - and April rising in April of 79, + 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,380 + Oh yes, they bought the campus on 393 - 00:24:14,109 --> 00:24:17,935 - my dad and my brother, + 00:17:33,380 --> 00:17:38,000 + smelling six acres + to square blocks. 394 - 00:24:17,935 --> 00:24:23,470 - the youngest brother, - and my grandfather. + 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,425 + They're not, they're + oblong though. 395 - 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,919 - Let's die. At the same time. + 00:17:39,425 --> 00:17:42,260 + And we could have gotten and + we've got one for nothing. 396 - 00:24:26,919 --> 00:24:31,194 - During the big thunderstorm. + 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:44,075 + I think about the other one. 397 - 00:24:31,194 --> 00:24:33,159 - Because he, they bought, + 00:17:44,075 --> 00:17:46,310 + And the real estate man 398 - 00:24:33,159 --> 00:24:35,439 - they all got struck by lightning. + 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:47,870 + said you can have + the third one too, 399 - 00:24:35,439 --> 00:24:37,839 - The diet here. Where was that? + 00:17:47,870 --> 00:17:49,520 + if you want to for a low price. 400 - 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:42,790 - At? My moment to say, OK. Now, + 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,155 + And they said, Oh, we'll + never need anymore. 401 - 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:48,290 - was there was there something + 00:17:51,155 --> 00:17:53,240 + Or some of the board + that he thought that, 402 - 00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:53,330 - significant about that - particular location + 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,130 + you know how lack of vision. 403 - 00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:56,675 - or that village or prison camp? + 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:56,480 + But there were five + men in their way. 404 - 00:24:56,675 --> 00:24:58,820 - I recall someone telling me + 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,030 + They weren't used to + this thing and show. 405 - 00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:01,880 - about prison camp - or a village near + 00:17:59,030 --> 00:18:00,259 + They bought that camp it. But I 406 - 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,890 - bottom bond that there were + 00:18:00,259 --> 00:18:01,760 + landed right on his own board. 407 - 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:06,589 - bodies kept in a well or they - would throw bodies in well, + 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,159 + He had Those are + fighting that thing, 408 - 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:09,409 - was that they call it a day. + 00:18:04,159 --> 00:18:06,889 + but it went through and 409 - 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:13,040 - Okay. A diff this that - little foot for the okay. + 00:18:06,889 --> 00:18:08,599 + then he's tried to raise + money for the seminary, 410 - 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,029 - Okay. So your father, + 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:11,270 + that little seminary that's + over there in that building. 411 - 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:18,830 - one brother and grandfather, + 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:13,699 + They raised, I think + there's $30 thousand 412 - 00:25:18,830 --> 00:25:20,645 - were struck by lightning? + 00:18:13,699 --> 00:18:16,070 + had cosh and it is + defined building. 413 - 00:25:20,645 --> 00:25:32,189 - Okay. And how long did you - remain and bottom bar? + 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:18,349 + And then and then we show 414 - 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,275 - I after my grandfather, + 00:18:18,349 --> 00:18:20,884 + the conference sold + to a real estate man, 415 - 00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:42,739 - my father, my brother die. + 00:18:20,884 --> 00:18:24,185 + that little Academy + for $20 thousand. 416 - 00:25:42,739 --> 00:25:45,184 - And two weeks later, + 00:18:24,185 --> 00:18:27,395 + That transgender conference + got just see from 417 - 00:25:45,184 --> 00:25:51,004 - my mother and my sister got out. + 00:18:27,395 --> 00:18:31,880 + Minnesota and from this + end of the line 20 cow. 418 - 00:25:51,004 --> 00:25:54,574 - They both get out - from the tomorrows. + 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,800 + And I think that that's right. 419 - 00:25:54,574 --> 00:26:00,559 - And then she returned to meet - me in my hometown again, + 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,540 + And then they raised + money among the church. 420 - 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:06,454 - I believe at b and - now April of 1979. + 00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:36,589 + It's gotta be that + through SHA1 and 421 - 00:26:06,454 --> 00:26:09,920 - And I stay with them for a while. + 00:18:36,589 --> 00:18:37,790 + raise money for the new seminary. 422 - 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,095 - And we don't think that we can + 00:18:37,790 --> 00:18:40,009 + And I may have one of our own and 423 - 00:26:12,095 --> 00:26:15,800 - live because I have - no full nothing. + 00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:42,695 + we have going to have + the building of our own. 424 - 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,370 - So my mom and my sister and + 00:18:42,695 --> 00:18:45,050 + But when we solely + academy building, 425 - 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:25,264 - my brother decide to - escape to Thailand. + 00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:47,210 + they said know what wedged + Academy gonna be next year. 426 - 00:26:25,264 --> 00:26:31,200 - During the man now, between - May and June and that time, + 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:50,390 + This is 19141915, whereas Academy 427 - 00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:34,640 - when I reach Thailand, + 00:18:50,390 --> 00:18:54,649 + going to go to and so the 428 - 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,709 - cam allowed the border. + 00:18:54,649 --> 00:18:56,869 + graciously arranged this way 429 - 00:26:36,709 --> 00:26:39,590 - The carlo Non Jan cam. + 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,569 + that the academy + could have clashing 430 - 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:43,280 - I'm a stay there a by two. + 00:18:59,569 --> 00:19:03,380 + that fore noon and 431 - 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,654 - We at that time, + 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:04,939 + their seminar could + have theirs in 432 - 00:26:46,654 --> 00:26:49,910 - the ties government brought + 00:19:04,939 --> 00:19:08,510 + the afternoon and day + that went through. 433 - 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:53,135 - all of the refugee - ban because are + 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:10,715 + And we did that for two years. 434 - 00:26:53,135 --> 00:26:58,310 - no international supervision - in that cam and too + 00:19:10,715 --> 00:19:12,920 + I think there's two + year, something 435 - 00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:00,934 - proud and ties government + 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,765 + like that, maybe a little more. 436 - 00:27:00,934 --> 00:27:05,629 - just lie to a saying that they - will move to a new place. + 00:19:14,765 --> 00:19:16,280 + My brother called me on the phone 437 - 00:27:05,629 --> 00:27:10,639 - But actually they put us - on a bus in the morning. + 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,810 + the other day and + he should Henry, 438 - 00:27:10,639 --> 00:27:13,910 - And they draw was, are they RNA? + 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:20,210 + do you know that + this is a day that 439 - 00:27:13,910 --> 00:27:20,179 - Three, the destination is - the not psi of Cambodia. + 00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:24,875 + nine of the ninth of + May when we moved 440 - 00:27:20,179 --> 00:27:22,024 - Along the border. + 00:19:24,875 --> 00:19:26,764 + after the college + building was really 441 - 00:27:22,024 --> 00:27:24,725 - And in the morning the sun dry, + 00:19:26,764 --> 00:19:28,910 + the big academy + building was put up. 442 - 00:27:24,725 --> 00:27:26,990 - they start to push - or to walk across + 00:19:28,910 --> 00:19:30,305 + Then when that was finished. 443 - 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:30,229 - the border into Cambodia, psi. + 00:19:30,305 --> 00:19:31,970 + And we can move from + the seminar with 444 - 00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:33,829 - And that time, a lot of people + 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:34,970 + all our panel shelves and things. 445 - 00:27:33,829 --> 00:27:37,610 - die because of the - mine along the border. + 00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:36,860 + And all the students + jumped into it as 446 - 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,924 - No. Where was the train? + 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:38,720 + a holiday to carry overhaul 447 - 00:27:40,924 --> 00:27:45,050 - Was this mountain slopes - and PD-L1 they call numb. + 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,040 + the magnificent furniture + to that new building, 448 - 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:54,094 - But Evie here that the the - the heavily cliff Hang on. + 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,764 + three story building, 449 - 00:27:54,094 --> 00:27:55,970 - Cambodian psi. But from + 00:19:44,764 --> 00:19:47,255 + which had been the college + building now for years. 450 - 00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:59,315 - the Thailand is - like a plane fear. + 00:19:47,255 --> 00:19:50,645 + It was a nine the MAY + matrices celebration 451 - 00:27:59,315 --> 00:28:04,215 - Mmm. So people were literally - pushed to their deaths. + 00:19:50,645 --> 00:19:55,415 + and ninth of May, 1916 or 17. 452 - 00:28:04,215 --> 00:28:10,869 - Most people that were across - early in the morning, + 00:19:55,415 --> 00:19:57,410 + But you haven't oftentime 453 - 00:28:10,869 --> 00:28:14,650 - most of them die - because of the mind. + 00:19:57,410 --> 00:19:59,195 + getting the money for + that colleague building? 454 - 00:28:14,650 --> 00:28:17,904 - And the mind just blow - when all day long. + 00:19:59,195 --> 00:20:01,430 + I visited, I was just a teacher. 455 - 00:28:17,904 --> 00:28:20,290 - Because people didn't know. + 00:20:01,430 --> 00:20:04,430 + I visited 50 churches one summer, 456 - 00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:21,924 - They just abandoned. + 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:06,650 + among those who + were raising money. 457 - 00:28:21,924 --> 00:28:24,024 - And my family. + 00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:11,449 + I visited 50 churches and next + summer and hot, you know, 458 - 00:28:24,024 --> 00:28:29,214 - But my relative, about 30 - people decide to stay, + 00:20:11,449 --> 00:20:13,280 + I had 5-stage to visit churches, 459 - 00:28:29,214 --> 00:28:34,479 - do not want to run back - to Cambodia until that + 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,629 + him and I'd be on 460 - 00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:37,044 - the Thai soldier just till + 00:20:14,629 --> 00:20:16,399 + those hot branch lines and dust 461 - 00:28:37,044 --> 00:28:40,209 - the garden trying to show that. + 00:20:16,399 --> 00:20:18,230 + coming in through + the open window. 462 - 00:28:40,209 --> 00:28:43,360 - And then we decide to - leave the last Chan. + 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:20,585 + But sort of hace + you wanted it open. 463 - 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,544 - And I stay alone that water + 00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:22,849 + And then I had a lecture I 464 - 00:28:46,544 --> 00:28:51,395 - because the hurdle too many - mind-blowing that time. + 00:20:22,849 --> 00:20:25,820 + gave everywhere in three, + the three I'd men. 465 - 00:28:51,395 --> 00:28:53,719 - So we decide to stay thereby, we, + 00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:31,625 + But either three i this i + this i this, i spirit July. 466 - 00:28:53,719 --> 00:28:57,229 - without food and - water, that we drink, + 00:20:31,625 --> 00:20:33,710 + And they wonder about + that. I'd be at three. 467 - 00:28:57,229 --> 00:29:01,699 - the water that just flow - along with the body, + 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:35,134 + I met one man, 468 - 00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:04,504 - the sunlight than for one week. + 00:20:35,134 --> 00:20:36,725 + officer the war Abidjan, 469 - 00:29:04,504 --> 00:29:08,194 - And later on, we - saw the Vietnamese + 00:20:36,725 --> 00:20:38,449 + and he said, what's + that fellow lecturing 470 - 00:29:08,194 --> 00:29:11,779 - true came by and help to get out. + 00:20:38,449 --> 00:20:39,920 + on his yet communism or shopping? 471 - 00:29:11,779 --> 00:29:14,389 - So we bwa followed their pad, + 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,295 + So he goes said, you though, 472 - 00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:17,015 - go back to Cambodia. + 00:20:43,295 --> 00:20:46,190 + hopefully I've met, but I got so 473 - 00:29:17,015 --> 00:29:18,874 - And where we're in Cambodia. + 00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:49,264 + tired and after the service 474 - 00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:22,380 - Did you go to I + 00:20:49,264 --> 00:20:51,019 + stay with the pastor and he 475 - 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:27,840 - about to mine back to - my home village again. + 00:20:51,019 --> 00:20:53,030 + never saw anybody really + ill. And so you'd like 476 - 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,514 - And how long did you - stay in bottom mom? + 00:20:53,030 --> 00:20:55,460 + to talk to me robots + and we'd have 477 - 00:29:32,514 --> 00:29:42,235 - I lived there until 198219 a2. + 00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:58,010 + coffee that I couldn't + go to sleep very 478 - 00:29:42,235 --> 00:29:48,699 - And then I escape again. - During that period. + 00:20:58,010 --> 00:21:00,920 + well after the + coffee and the next 479 - 00:29:48,699 --> 00:29:50,829 - What were you doing in + 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,265 + morning at another train + through the dust storms. 480 - 00:29:50,829 --> 00:29:55,400 - Battambang, roughly - between 791982? + 00:21:04,265 --> 00:21:06,245 + And I've aged 50 churches. 481 - 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:05,004 - I start with the communication + 00:21:06,245 --> 00:21:08,790 + I sang a solo. 482 - 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,510 - and transport department in + 00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:13,325 + It was Swedish, so yeah, + it's a beautiful thing. 483 - 00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:15,439 - Guatemala City as - the regular employee + 00:21:13,325 --> 00:21:15,650 + People way, hey, the + blood 10-year Yes. 484 - 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:20,939 - because I do not want anybody - knows about my background. + 00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:17,390 + Step and leaked and T police 485 - 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:31,219 - And after a year later than 1980, + 00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:19,279 + that tailored in looking into 486 - 00:30:31,219 --> 00:30:33,935 - I was Yeah. + 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,009 + your Google stuff akin or 487 - 00:30:33,935 --> 00:30:36,979 - That's close to 81. + 00:21:22,009 --> 00:21:25,820 + that they telephoned + Mr. Ben translate. 488 - 00:30:36,979 --> 00:30:39,950 - And I moved to we're in + 00:21:25,820 --> 00:21:28,339 + We're journeying + through on the way to 489 - 00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:42,859 - the office because they - know that I can do + 00:21:28,339 --> 00:21:31,190 + happiness majorly and depth. 490 - 00:30:42,859 --> 00:30:44,585 - some paperwork in the office + 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:33,710 + And there's one verse + step, might shoot 491 - 00:30:44,585 --> 00:30:46,309 - and my friend was there and they + 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:35,840 + what I knew now that 492 - 00:30:46,309 --> 00:30:50,809 - know me before senate - work in the office. + 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,300 + my chute wouldn't so new + that I was traveling with, 493 - 00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:54,814 - As the bookkeeping to make + 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:39,920 + you know, I guess I give it gives 494 - 00:30:54,814 --> 00:31:00,019 - no finer were less - for the employee. + 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,095 + a second shoot anyway + and which ones are good? 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Yeah. Maybe a - backup a little I guess. + 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,260 + And new blood means respect + bought out your hot. + + 500 + 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:57,380 + I sit Mitchum, look at + me and you're Watson. + + 501 + 00:21:57,380 --> 00:21:59,839 + This was an in-depth + look at me and + + 502 + 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:02,780 + you wonder how it could be + that he's a breadth of drugs. + + 503 + 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:04,699 + But listen, you haven't seen + + 504 + 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:06,770 + the real bribe to suit the width. + + 505 + 00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:07,880 + This is just about traveling + + 506 + 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,619 + suit and fit it in because I was + + 507 + 00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:13,340 + traveling and I remember they'd + little rags here. Wagner, + + 508 + 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:19,100 + second suit number two + maybe would be somehow, + + 509 + 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:23,719 + well, so we raise the money + for the college building, + + 510 + 00:22:23,719 --> 00:22:25,430 + which was the academy billing. + + 511 + 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:27,500 + And at o we weren't proud. + + 512 + 00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:29,884 + There's gymnasium and + they actually food - 2 - 00:00:10,590 --> 00:00:13,050 - Maybe at the point of mentioning + 513 + 00:22:29,884 --> 00:22:33,560 + shop that heating up + and that was cooking. - 3 - 00:00:13,050 --> 00:00:16,360 - you started working in an office. + 514 + 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,699 + To teach cooking, there was - 4 - 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:21,630 - Oh, OK. Yeah. + 515 + 00:22:34,699 --> 00:22:37,130 + a business department + up on the third floor, - 5 - 00:00:21,630 --> 00:00:24,030 - Now, you had mentioned that - you had been working in + 516 + 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:40,910 + and I had the English + department all the time all - 6 - 00:00:24,030 --> 00:00:25,830 - an office doing some work + 517 + 00:22:40,910 --> 00:22:42,680 + through the years until I went - 7 - 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:28,080 - with bookkeeping, - things of that nature. + 518 + 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,540 + to Chicago, I'm sure was patched. - 8 - 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,950 - What other kinds of work - did you do? In the office? + 519 + 00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:45,860 + Then it came back. It got - 9 - 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:41,860 - At? My job is the typing, - the employee idlis, + 520 + 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:49,729 + a little better job I - 10 - 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:47,660 - and then Phyllis, - all that were and + 521 + 00:22:49,729 --> 00:22:54,650 + have to do is live + and on this side, - 11 - 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:55,145 - then have all the administrator - sign on that list. + 522 + 00:22:54,650 --> 00:22:56,220 + being careless. And on the other, - 12 - 00:00:55,145 --> 00:01:01,400 - And then we take the let's - go to the bank to get money. + 523 + 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:59,620 + another aspect, I + haven't gotten in - 13 - 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,130 - Because we start to have money. + 524 + 00:22:59,620 --> 00:23:06,625 + private plenty to go + to Chicago in 191938. - 14 - 00:01:04,130 --> 00:01:11,585 - I think around 1980 is the - new government in Cambodia. + 525 + 00:23:06,625 --> 00:23:09,610 + I had been head of the + English department touches. - 15 - 00:01:11,585 --> 00:01:16,445 - They start to have money for - people to spend that time + 526 + 00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:14,380 + It was from 1910 to 1938. - 16 - 00:01:16,445 --> 00:01:22,790 - and then be my job to - help to make the list. + 527 + 00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:16,820 + How long? How many? - 17 - 00:01:22,790 --> 00:01:24,650 - Okay. Did you have + 528 + 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,570 + 28 years. 28 years. - 18 - 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:26,915 - any other jobs while + 529 + 00:23:19,570 --> 00:23:22,220 + And then we went to Chicago. - 19 - 00:01:26,915 --> 00:01:29,600 - during this period - before you left again? + 530 + 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:25,450 + We were riding along their + family and their tent, - 20 - 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:41,000 - No. Highlights and end till - 1982 in June. June 1982. + 531 + 00:23:25,450 --> 00:23:27,219 + had negotiations back and forth, - 21 - 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,630 - Okay. What what was it - like in bottom bog with, + 532 + 00:23:27,219 --> 00:23:29,830 + you know, but I thought + what am I doing? - 22 - 00:01:47,630 --> 00:01:50,929 - with a new occupation, + 533 + 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:31,750 + Runtime, I do, what am I getting? - 23 - 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:52,445 - new people in power, + 534 + 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:34,120 + Entry go down. + Chicago man told me. - 24 - 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:55,700 - whether still incidents - of of abuses of + 535 + 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,730 + He said, why don't you go to + Africa and don't go down? - 25 - 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:59,165 - power or were things fairly - stable, fairly calm. + 536 + 00:23:36,730 --> 00:23:38,860 + They then Nest head of Chicago - 26 - 00:01:59,165 --> 00:02:01,230 - What was it like there? + 537 + 00:23:38,860 --> 00:23:40,390 + Well, don't you beaver ambitious? - 27 - 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,360 - The new ghetto men? + 538 + 00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:42,549 + I said yeah, but + agouti applicant, - 28 - 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,730 - It deal. + 539 + 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:43,720 + he said, don't do that. - 29 - 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:12,800 - Keep looking. The people - that have connected + 540 + 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,220 + But we had a + wonderful time there. - 30 - 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:23,180 - with some get shiny background. + 541 + 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:46,780 + We did have a lot + of time in Chicago, + + 542 + 00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:48,385 + three years and three months. + + 543 + 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:51,130 + And then they were going + to elect a president. + + 544 + 00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:54,280 + And a bachelor's had the + inductor vectors editor. + + 545 + 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,275 + And you should get + your name on there. + + 546 + 00:23:56,275 --> 00:23:58,690 + Know my name on there. + + 547 + 00:23:58,690 --> 00:24:02,455 + You know, I can I can Xavier. + + 548 + 00:24:02,455 --> 00:24:05,064 + And anyway well, anyway, + + 549 + 00:24:05,064 --> 00:24:10,974 + it turned out that way and + the whole board could go, + + 550 + 00:24:10,974 --> 00:24:12,400 + not only the executive board, + + 551 + 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,680 + but the whole board of + the conference tool. + + 552 + 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:23,140 + And so it was in where they + had the catherine 1910191940 - 31 - 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:26,390 - And also the one to know + 553 + 00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:29,050 + comprehension that suddenly + erupt cord yet men and oh, - 32 - 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:29,810 - about the background - of the employee + 554 + 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:30,909 + my dean appointment, Daniel, - 33 - 00:02:29,810 --> 00:02:37,310 - before you can get in to work - in the office or whatever. + 555 + 00:24:30,909 --> 00:24:32,320 + he was the other candidate. - 34 - 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:40,714 - They are. They asked - about the background, + 556 + 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,300 + And then I went to Canada. - 35 - 00:02:40,714 --> 00:02:44,090 - writing like a resume, + 557 + 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,355 + She's never have + to never happened. - 36 - 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:47,665 - but I dare not trust them. + 558 + 00:24:36,355 --> 00:24:43,195 + But do he'd been a lovely + tell him that Well, - 37 - 00:02:47,665 --> 00:02:49,609 - Still Hi my identity. + 559 + 00:24:43,195 --> 00:24:45,760 + I had a kind of + advantage now, you know, - 38 - 00:02:49,609 --> 00:02:54,120 - I didn't tell anybody except - my friend at no, before. + 560 + 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,259 + you're kind of I thought B, - 39 - 00:02:54,670 --> 00:03:00,005 - Were were people - are being picked up + 561 + 00:24:47,259 --> 00:24:48,730 + all right, the Lord + wanted me do it. - 40 - 00:03:00,005 --> 00:03:02,300 - where detention camps being still + 562 + 00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:51,880 + I wouldn't proud and I + thought if that's what you're - 41 - 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,135 - in existence in - Cambodia that time? + 563 + 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,374 + one my wife and praying about it - 42 - 00:03:05,135 --> 00:03:10,534 - Yeah. They asked - all the employees + 564 + 00:24:53,374 --> 00:24:55,570 + and it's alright either way. - 43 - 00:03:10,534 --> 00:03:16,834 - go to training lake every two - the same they'd tomorrow's. + 565 + 00:24:55,570 --> 00:24:57,100 + But I'm scared, scared. - 44 - 00:03:16,834 --> 00:03:23,450 - But they gave us some freedom - to do something by their + 566 + 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,670 + You know, Carlos Caribbean + gave us a good buddy. - 45 - 00:03:23,450 --> 00:03:26,765 - own because they didn't hold + 567 + 00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:04,215 + Was going to humble + little point but a URI. - 46 - 00:03:26,765 --> 00:03:32,000 - a common kitchen - or As a two-word, + 568 + 00:25:04,215 --> 00:25:08,674 + And so five, Well, - 47 - 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,015 - as that grew up in - a village anymore. + 569 + 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,990 + I was I was chairman + of the ministers show. - 48 - 00:03:35,015 --> 00:03:37,595 - So we can do whatever V1. + 570 + 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:13,985 + I was on the platform + all that time issue. - 49 - 00:03:37,595 --> 00:03:39,980 - But if the people that don't + 571 + 00:25:13,985 --> 00:25:16,250 + And then I was vice chairman + of the kind of franchises. - 50 - 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:42,770 - have enough resources to those, + 572 + 00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:18,155 + And he's told me + when they say it. - 51 - 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:47,345 - the crop or something - like that that relates, + 573 + 00:25:18,155 --> 00:25:20,479 + But of course he knew + his anyway and they - 52 - 00:03:47,345 --> 00:03:50,180 - that relates leader provides + 574 + 00:25:20,479 --> 00:25:23,780 + decided who resolution not + to discuss either one. - 53 - 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:53,270 - subnet and the ASA - to work as a team, + 575 + 00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:28,280 + Ohmic compare notes at all + and they're getting away. - 54 - 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:57,019 - but similar to the - tomatoes before. + 576 + 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,739 + Well then that, ok, - 55 - 00:03:57,019 --> 00:03:59,330 - Now, you stated that you you + 577 + 00:25:30,739 --> 00:25:33,320 + then they're going to + vote and add to it. - 56 - 00:03:59,330 --> 00:04:01,760 - laughed Cambodia in June of 1982. + 578 + 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,930 + And I went down head and + make a call to true basement - 57 - 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,660 - Yeah. Why did you - leave at that time? + 579 + 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:40,170 + left again talking + 70 hooves trimmed. - 58 - 00:04:05,660 --> 00:04:08,510 - Was did something happen - to you want to if we + 580 + 00:25:41,470 --> 00:25:46,220 + But we went to got cool though. - 59 - 00:04:08,510 --> 00:04:13,565 - or I have some pressure from work + 581 + 00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:48,019 + But then I thought, well, I think - 60 - 00:04:13,565 --> 00:04:18,320 - because I feel that people trying + 582 + 00:25:48,019 --> 00:25:49,640 + that was definitely + in the voting. - 61 - 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:25,070 - to dating to find - out the background, + 583 + 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,500 + But anyway, I was elected and - 62 - 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:28,805 - my background because 11 time + 584 + 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,200 + the first one to hit me was + the chairman of the board. - 63 - 00:04:28,805 --> 00:04:34,050 - I was selected to go to study. + 585 + 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,549 + He says, when big, - 64 - 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,645 - And the people in that - department select myself. + 586 + 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:58,205 + congratulations, you're + the one who repaid. - 65 - 00:04:38,645 --> 00:04:41,120 - But the other trend that we're + 587 + 00:25:58,205 --> 00:26:00,289 + And the next one was o Mark - 66 - 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,080 - going to go to learn how to, + 588 + 00:26:00,289 --> 00:26:02,210 + himself. He rushed over to me. - 67 - 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:53,540 - because they create a new - department called taxation. + 589 + 00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:04,490 + Eugenic antigen grabbed + my hand and she says, - 68 - 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:56,885 - And know that I can go - they see like me to go. + 590 + 00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:07,009 + Congratulations, I'm + glad you're like, well, - 69 - 00:04:56,885 --> 00:04:59,300 - But before I can go, + 591 + 00:26:07,009 --> 00:26:08,239 + that spirit, that spirit on - 70 - 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:03,395 - I need to have background checks. + 592 + 00:26:08,239 --> 00:26:12,380 + McDonald's had in cooperation. - 71 - 00:05:03,395 --> 00:05:07,835 - My name was sent to the office. + 593 + 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:14,180 + Then he was passionate + Los Angeles. - 72 - 00:05:07,835 --> 00:05:13,370 - They call as the Cambodian - what they call carrier lie. + 594 + 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:17,510 + Then we called him to come as + professor to the seminary. - 73 - 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:17,240 - Just doesn't that mean - the appointment office. + 595 + 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:20,180 + And then when Dr. + Carlson patched away - 74 - 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,190 - Before they can appoint you to + 596 + 00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:24,109 + Carnegie Carlson we + caught in the board, - 75 - 00:05:19,190 --> 00:05:21,560 - go you need to go - through that office, + 597 + 00:26:24,109 --> 00:26:25,310 + caught him as dean. - 76 - 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,000 - the check our background. + 598 + 00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:26,480 + So he would deem the seven-year, - 77 - 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,560 - They come to look at - physical and they look at + 599 + 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,415 + I think types in seven years. - 78 - 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,515 - your face trying to ask + 600 + 00:26:28,415 --> 00:26:33,060 + And he's still a wonderful + fellow. Dino mark. - 79 - 00:05:30,515 --> 00:05:33,845 - or their friend about - the background. + 601 + 00:26:34,270 --> 00:26:37,069 + Well, Higgs Jim took the job and - 80 - 00:05:33,845 --> 00:05:37,729 - And I went through that process. + 602 + 00:26:37,069 --> 00:26:38,869 + interest and histories + and difficult job, - 81 - 00:05:37,729 --> 00:05:42,290 - I fail because they look at they + 603 + 00:26:38,869 --> 00:26:42,395 + but he carried on and he won + out and the Lord used him. - 82 - 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:44,930 - say I have some kind of + 604 + 00:26:42,395 --> 00:26:49,970 + And that's a picture + of depression. - 83 - 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:48,560 - a Chinese ethnic and - they don't trust it. + 605 + 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:52,280 + Girls were difficult + to your Soyuz. - 84 - 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,225 - Okay. And the other friend - a path they can go. + 606 + 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,010 + And now the + Depression, of course, - 85 - 00:05:53,225 --> 00:05:57,950 - Okay. Now, what did that mean - than if they failed you, + 607 + 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:58,130 + money went far, + money went very far. - 86 - 00:05:57,950 --> 00:06:01,175 - that that meant that you - didn't get that opportunity. + 608 + 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:00,080 + My wife came home from + the grocery store there - 87 - 00:06:01,175 --> 00:06:04,445 - But did that mean they might - come after you then later? + 609 + 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,255 + and does Israel + near where we live. - 88 - 00:06:04,445 --> 00:06:06,380 - I didn't know at that time, + 610 + 00:27:02,255 --> 00:27:04,730 + And I print and she + shady, so cheap. - 89 - 00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:09,575 - but I feel that it's - not safe to stay. + 611 + 00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:06,710 + I'm ashamed she should + it showed cheap. - 90 - 00:06:09,575 --> 00:06:14,330 - And also my relative have + 612 + 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,480 + I'm ashamed. She mentioned - 91 - 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:17,075 - some problem in my hometown + 613 + 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,370 + only patient-level + money for everything. - 92 - 00:06:17,075 --> 00:06:20,525 - because they knew that - IVR escaped before, + 614 + 00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:13,249 + Depression. And we Dr. Actium - 93 - 00:06:20,525 --> 00:06:24,890 - during 1979 or my - family that escape it. + 615 + 00:27:13,249 --> 00:27:15,680 + called The faculty + together and you said, - 94 - 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:27,440 - And we don't want to, + 616 + 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,850 + now I don't know what to do. - 95 - 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,605 - we're in the farm to feel again. + 617 + 00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:18,560 + Issue. I've always had some hope - 96 - 00:06:30,605 --> 00:06:33,740 - So am I trying to escape? + 618 + 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,570 + before, but I haven't any more. - 97 - 00:06:33,740 --> 00:06:40,070 - So the last time a escape - it my way because I got + 619 + 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:23,690 + But I don't see you way + out or we had pram eating. - 98 - 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:43,355 - married and in November 1981 + 620 + 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:26,240 + Some students had prior mean + each with prayer meeting. - 99 - 00:06:43,355 --> 00:06:47,060 - and I escaped with my - wife and my wife URL. + 621 + 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,830 + And then we're going to drop up - 100 - 00:06:47,060 --> 00:06:54,785 - Pattern and her sibling and - also my mother and my sister, + 622 + 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:30,245 + the prepare to our department. - 101 - 00:06:54,785 --> 00:06:57,260 - except my brother, that + 623 + 00:27:30,245 --> 00:27:32,974 + Now the junior + colleagues came in, + + 624 + 00:27:32,974 --> 00:27:35,990 + but the Lord land and + we got kept going. - 102 - 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,555 - he got married and - her two children. + 625 + 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:37,760 + Then the junior + colleague Justice, - 103 - 00:06:59,555 --> 00:07:02,060 - He cannot escape at that time. + 626 + 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,010 + there was a need for the + Academy of those days. - 104 - 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:04,985 - So he decided to stay. + 627 + 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:43,310 + There now became that same + need for the junior college. - 105 - 00:07:04,985 --> 00:07:10,740 - Ok. And how long did it take - you to get to the border? + 628 + 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:47,405 + The same need obtained + for the junior college - 106 - 00:07:11,530 --> 00:07:15,995 - From bottom bond to border? + 629 + 00:27:47,405 --> 00:27:53,045 + because now they had high + schools that they didn't have. - 107 - 00:07:15,995 --> 00:07:18,965 - Only one day. + 630 + 00:27:53,045 --> 00:27:55,325 + He's got used to having. - 108 - 00:07:18,965 --> 00:07:21,905 - Did you have any problems - crossing the border? + 631 + 00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:58,054 + So they didn't go to + high school and then - 109 - 00:07:21,905 --> 00:07:24,425 - How would happen? + 632 + 00:27:58,054 --> 00:28:01,580 + Junior College took care - 110 - 00:07:24,425 --> 00:07:26,840 - I gotta arrest one time. + 633 + 00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,260 + of the first two + years of college. - 111 - 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,430 - They put me in jail. + 634 + 00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:05,164 + And then after having that, - 112 - 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:30,690 - They call seize upon. + 635 + 00:28:05,164 --> 00:28:08,120 + that started got + going good in 1933. - 113 - 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:35,230 - They arrested you - and put you in jail. + 636 + 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:12,410 + And then Dino Dean + Carlson was GUI, - 114 - 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:37,270 - What happened? How - long were you in jail? + 637 + 00:28:12,410 --> 00:28:14,255 + some marvelous hello Scott it. - 115 - 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:40,090 - Only one day, window in - the morning and then + 638 + 00:28:14,255 --> 00:28:17,180 + He was a history teacher, + but you can't make KBD. - 116 - 00:07:40,090 --> 00:07:43,540 - laid a learning my pattern, + 639 + 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:18,499 + And he had the confidence of - 117 - 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:46,510 - just negotiate the - people over there, + 640 + 00:28:18,499 --> 00:28:21,335 + the University of Minnesota + and he was marvelous. - 118 - 00:07:46,510 --> 00:07:50,200 - tried to bribe them to get - me and my life outlet that. + 641 + 00:28:21,335 --> 00:28:22,855 + I had these men around me. - 119 - 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,345 - Okay. And then we come back to + 642 + 00:28:22,855 --> 00:28:26,615 + I wouldn't, but they + were, And that's right. - 120 - 00:07:52,345 --> 00:07:54,850 - bite them both to live for - about a couple of months. + 643 + 00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:30,290 + And so finally, the + university okayed - 121 - 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:57,740 - And I made lately again. + 644 + 00:28:30,290 --> 00:28:35,915 + four years of college + work recognition. - 122 - 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 - While you were in jail, + 645 + 00:28:35,915 --> 00:28:41,390 + And Danielson, wherever + walter Danielson, - 123 - 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 - did anything did - they interrogate you + 646 + 00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:43,609 + who had been missionary + to a sham India, - 124 - 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,610 - or abuse you in any way? + 647 + 00:28:43,609 --> 00:28:45,920 + he was prevailed on to be - 125 - 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:10,450 - Because it's only one day - that didn't do anything yet. + 648 + 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 + the first dean of + the junior college. - 126 - 00:08:10,450 --> 00:08:14,060 - They just put me at the - dyadic people matter. + 649 + 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,615 + And oh, it was a tough job. - 127 - 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:18,590 - Okay. You return to bottom bond. + 650 + 00:28:50,615 --> 00:28:52,670 + Money with short to beat the bet. - 128 - 00:08:18,590 --> 00:08:22,130 - You were there for two more - months and then you yes. + 651 + 00:28:52,670 --> 00:28:54,395 + He cut down salaries, - 129 - 00:08:22,130 --> 00:08:23,465 - About to learn. + 652 + 00:28:54,395 --> 00:28:58,730 + showcases Have I remember + Mr. Norris and said to me, - 130 - 00:08:23,465 --> 00:08:26,420 - Okay. And then I escape - again because I'm + 653 + 00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:00,710 + current dean Karnofsky + button dean. - 131 - 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:29,510 - afraid I have some - problem with that. + 654 + 00:29:00,710 --> 00:29:03,635 + And he said to me he was + sitting in Duluth looking at - 132 - 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:34,340 - And then next time that IS - that last time I escape? + 655 + 00:29:03,635 --> 00:29:05,479 + those figures and I - 133 - 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:36,515 - A yes. + 656 + 00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:07,010 + came up to him into Luther + countered per share. - 134 - 00:08:36,515 --> 00:08:39,410 - Highest somebody - trying to help me + 657 + 00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:08,265 + Any shape. Can you tell me? - 135 - 00:08:39,410 --> 00:08:43,980 - to go through the Alone the way. + 658 + 00:29:08,265 --> 00:29:09,920 + I can label in this thing. - 136 - 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:46,490 - Did you go by yourself - or did you go + 659 + 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,600 + They weren't getting + much to start with, - 137 - 00:08:46,490 --> 00:08:48,260 - with the same group of people? + 660 + 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,570 + then cut half of it to her. - 138 - 00:08:48,260 --> 00:08:52,580 - The same people but a - little bit different time. + 661 + 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:17,555 + And they didn't cut. There's + so much to teach that - 139 - 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:58,685 - Okay. While you were in - Battambang that last time, + 662 + 00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:19,370 + he didn't show much. - 140 - 00:08:58,685 --> 00:09:00,755 - did anything unusual happened? + 663 + 00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:21,499 + My brother, nice cut + others because we had - 141 - 00:09:00,755 --> 00:09:02,870 - We're authorities looking for you + 664 + 00:29:21,499 --> 00:29:23,449 + been there so long about - 142 - 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:08,120 - or they keep an eye - on me all the time. + 665 + 00:29:23,449 --> 00:29:25,399 + their Wu the school whether - 143 - 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,340 - Because I live in + 666 + 00:29:25,399 --> 00:29:27,890 + did and then you + mentioned the war. - 144 - 00:09:10,340 --> 00:09:13,130 - the bookkeeping and loaded with + 667 + 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:31,729 + Dave, Swedish Baptist, - 145 - 00:09:13,130 --> 00:09:16,265 - the money that people are - just keep watching me. + 668 + 00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:35,550 + sort of very loyal to + the ward to the war. - 146 - 00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:21,185 - But every day I feel - like a lot of pressure + 669 + 00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:39,665 + It was a good thing that + Germany was so wicked. - 147 - 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:24,320 - that you felt that they might + 670 + 00:29:39,665 --> 00:29:41,450 + That's what made us show night. - 148 - 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,075 - eventually arrest you and + 671 + 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:42,920 + And that took place twice. - 149 - 00:09:26,075 --> 00:09:28,385 - perhaps send you - away or kill you? + 672 + 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,850 + You know, i was done + in Iowa for pushed for - 150 - 00:09:28,385 --> 00:09:34,670 - Probably. Okay. Okay. - So you had hired + 673 + 00:29:46,850 --> 00:29:50,000 + a weekend for the school - 151 - 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:37,040 - someone to help you - and your family + 674 + 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,780 + and there was a family + there had a big fine Farm. - 152 - 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,050 - escape and then this + 675 + 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:55,219 + And I don't know + what they had done - 153 - 00:09:39,050 --> 00:09:41,375 - time you were successful - in crossing the border? + 676 + 00:29:55,219 --> 00:29:56,479 + to make everybody mad at them - 154 - 00:09:41,375 --> 00:09:43,880 - Yeah. Ok. And then + 677 + 00:29:56,479 --> 00:29:57,650 + if they were holding the envoy - 155 - 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,115 - where did you go after - you cross the border? + 678 + 00:29:57,650 --> 00:29:59,510 + from going into the service. - 156 - 00:09:46,115 --> 00:09:51,740 - I stay in that + 679 + 00:29:59,510 --> 00:30:05,150 + And they call them slackers, + who they call them yellow. - 157 - 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:57,575 - they call ME that's as - close to the border. + 680 + 00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:06,739 + They came there one night, - 158 - 00:09:57,575 --> 00:10:00,380 - Stayed there about three months. + 681 + 00:30:06,739 --> 00:30:09,635 + the neighborhood, and + painted all their buildings. - 159 - 00:10:00,380 --> 00:10:04,940 - And I don't have - money to go again + 682 + 00:30:09,635 --> 00:30:12,515 + And the next day he was + going to have an auction. - 160 - 00:10:04,940 --> 00:10:10,160 - to carried out camp because - they need to walk about. + 683 + 00:30:12,515 --> 00:30:14,374 + And you see how, - 161 - 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,245 - Alma, RNA tried to get away - from the Thai soldier from + 684 + 00:30:14,374 --> 00:30:16,100 + I suppose cruel it was. - 162 - 00:10:15,245 --> 00:10:20,045 - the robbery, dropped that. + 685 + 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,570 + I mean, it was dirty. - 163 - 00:10:20,045 --> 00:10:22,220 - You don't know how to get there. + 686 + 00:30:17,570 --> 00:30:18,860 + It was to do that. - 164 - 00:10:22,220 --> 00:10:26,270 - You will be wrapped by or assault + 687 + 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:21,605 + And I don't know what + their vision was, - 165 - 00:10:26,270 --> 00:10:30,515 - by the Thai people or by - the soul allowed the bada. + 688 + 00:30:21,605 --> 00:30:22,969 + what the reason they + had against him, - 166 - 00:10:30,515 --> 00:10:36,020 - Okay. So then did + 689 + 00:30:22,969 --> 00:30:24,320 + how it turned out. - 167 - 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:38,090 - you eventually end up - in carrier and and + 690 + 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,095 + You were either lacquered + or you went to war. - 168 - 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:41,550 - I I reached carried down. + 691 + 00:30:27,095 --> 00:30:30,034 + Now, how students at which + you think Amendment, David, - 169 - 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:48,170 - That's l2. Care. - With your family? + 692 + 00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:32,285 + and we had less students + the seminary could - 170 - 00:10:48,170 --> 00:10:50,600 - Yeah. Okay. All of you together? + 693 + 00:30:32,285 --> 00:30:35,630 + go because they were going + into Christian work. - 171 - 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,525 - Okay. How long were - you and carried on? + 694 + 00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:38,449 + And that the students in - 172 - 00:10:56,525 --> 00:11:07,310 - I stay and carried out - until December 1983. + 695 + 00:30:38,449 --> 00:30:42,544 + the academy or in the + college were allowed - 173 - 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:17,620 - Okay. Okay. What did - you do and carry down? + 696 + 00:30:42,544 --> 00:30:46,790 + to be free from the war + if they were lined up + + 697 + 00:30:46,790 --> 00:30:52,040 + as minister to training + from industry and so on. - 174 - 00:11:17,620 --> 00:11:20,740 - I start working because I feel + 698 + 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,410 + But our general + conference with oil. - 175 - 00:11:20,740 --> 00:11:23,230 - like I'm so depressed there. + 699 + 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:55,850 + And then you mentioned + the matter of - 176 - 00:11:23,230 --> 00:11:25,450 - Whenever they're there for a few, + 700 + 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:58,490 + fundamentalism. Our + Should you baptise? - 177 - 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:27,490 - we have nothing to do. + 701 + 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:00,095 + Conferences have always been - 178 - 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:28,960 - Really like it live in + 702 + 00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:04,175 + fundamental as far as + the Bible's concern. - 179 - 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,020 - the jail because to - have a fun around, + 703 + 00:31:04,175 --> 00:31:07,039 + Maybe they were so + simple that they were, - 180 - 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:34,220 - you cannot walk anywhere. + 704 + 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,410 + I don't mean that + in any bad sense, - 181 - 00:11:34,350 --> 00:11:36,730 - And I start working with + 705 + 00:31:09,410 --> 00:31:11,719 + but they just took + the word of God, - 182 - 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:43,910 - the IRC, International - Rescue Committee. + 706 + 00:31:11,719 --> 00:31:14,555 + as he says, And believe it. - 183 - 00:11:44,950 --> 00:11:48,540 - And what kind of work - were you doing with them? + 707 + 00:31:14,555 --> 00:31:16,700 + And we can illustrate + that in visualization. - 184 - 00:11:48,730 --> 00:11:53,930 - Doing the lab technician as + 708 + 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,420 + We did hygienes spoken. - 185 - 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:57,275 - the blood bank and keep the blood + 709 + 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:22,580 + He's got a band + that he should lie. - 186 - 00:11:57,275 --> 00:12:01,550 - ordered blood for - the hospital there. + 710 + 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:24,770 + Surely say it. And + that reenter fashion. - 187 - 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:05,540 - And I have some background - about that then + 711 + 00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:30,240 + While the whole Bible, you + know that word of God. - 188 - 00:12:05,540 --> 00:12:10,940 - that time I cannot speak - English very well. + 712 + 00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:37,430 + Now what do we have for + climate conference? - 189 - 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:14,855 - So I just mixed with friends - and English all the time. + 713 + 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:40,115 + Hasn't tended to be very + contentious though. - 190 - 00:12:14,855 --> 00:12:17,525 - And my friend over - there teach me to + 714 + 00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:43,069 + As it, again, you know, - 191 - 00:12:17,525 --> 00:12:21,330 - Howard and keep - learning from them. + 715 + 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:45,680 + they have their + goods to the bush. - 192 - 00:12:23,890 --> 00:12:27,710 - Did you go to any other - camps after carried down, + 716 + 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,430 + Contention was about + the school, 1912. - 193 - 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:28,940 - where did you come directly + 717 + 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:51,590 + They didn't dare + to PIDA committee. - 194 - 00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:30,710 - to the United States after that? + 718 + 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:53,810 + My brother even arrows + there and he said, - 195 - 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:33,830 - Now, I work with + 719 + 00:31:53,810 --> 00:31:55,790 + I won't be appoint a committee + to study this thing. - 196 - 00:12:33,830 --> 00:12:37,370 - the International Red - Cross for a few months. + 720 + 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:56,930 + No, no, no, no. - 197 - 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:39,800 - And then at that time I file + 721 + 00:31:56,930 --> 00:31:58,520 + They wouldn't trust any committee - 198 - 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,220 - a petition to come - to United State. + 722 + 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,590 + that they finally did + appoint a committee. - 199 - 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:47,780 - And later on I was - a subnet to come. + 723 + 00:32:00,590 --> 00:32:02,359 + And no, they haven't - 200 - 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:52,160 - And I went to work with the JV, + 724 + 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,680 + been there's excuse me. + What was the problem? - 201 - 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,675 - a detailed jar - involuntary agency for + 725 + 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,244 + There was, well, + the geographical, - 202 - 00:12:56,675 --> 00:13:02,390 - interpreting how people - and 6AM until December 83. + 726 + 00:32:09,244 --> 00:32:11,600 + it wasn't just that + the faculty in Chicago - 203 - 00:13:02,390 --> 00:13:06,655 - They move my my summer, + 727 + 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,180 + didn't want to leave or + other, that's one thing. - 204 - 00:13:06,655 --> 00:13:13,040 - my wife, to a processing - cam and Sean Murray. + 728 + 00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:17,420 + And that they felt - 205 - 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,140 - And that time, the GABA-A + 729 + 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:19,340 + that we didn't have + anything here much. - 206 - 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:23,765 - won me to go back to work with - them again and carry down. + 730 + 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:20,645 + I mean, where are we now? - 207 - 00:13:23,765 --> 00:13:27,725 - And they asked me to and I say, + 731 + 00:32:20,645 --> 00:32:23,360 + Table? They felt that - 208 - 00:13:27,725 --> 00:13:29,600 - yes, decide to go back to work. + 732 + 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760 + the American seminary + would let them - 209 - 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,035 - But my wife and John - Murray came for awhile. + 733 + 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,430 + use Walker Hall, an old building. - 210 - 00:13:33,035 --> 00:13:36,545 - And after I've gone back to - work for a few about man. + 734 + 00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:31,579 + And they said that ship - 211 - 00:13:36,545 --> 00:13:39,260 - And they say that they + 735 + 00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:34,265 + the other side shed + with its an overhaul. - 212 - 00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:41,750 - want my wife to go - to Philippine to + 736 + 00:32:34,265 --> 00:32:37,160 + Dr. Robert, earlier he was + on the school committee. - 213 - 00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:43,820 - learn English first and + 737 + 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,590 + Robert, he wrote misuse + or that thing that - 214 - 00:13:43,820 --> 00:13:47,270 - leave me to work with - them for six months. + 738 + 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,150 + the thing you zone + of white elephant - 215 - 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:50,645 - And I have an - algorithm with them. + 739 + 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:42,200 + essential. What did they do? - 216 - 00:13:50,645 --> 00:13:52,220 - I don't want to + 740 + 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,850 + Get a tweet, that's + white elephant. - 217 - 00:13:52,220 --> 00:13:55,400 - separate that and my wife - doesn't want to do that. + 741 + 00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:46,340 + And another real estate + man or a builder - 218 - 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,060 - And then I break the - contract. I didn't work. + 742 + 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:49,205 + in Evanston who's on + the side of Chicago. - 219 - 00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:04,580 - So they sent me and my wife - to know cam in Indonesia, + 743 + 00:32:49,205 --> 00:32:50,615 + He wrote that paper, - 220 - 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:06,870 - the color Golan cam. + 744 + 00:32:50,615 --> 00:32:53,360 + let the shoemaker + state with his lashed. - 221 - 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:15,125 - In I think the end of the - summer of 1983 along river. + 745 + 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,190 + He's a doctor. He + knows how to operate. - 222 - 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:21,440 - I stay there six months - until June 1984. + 746 + 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:57,440 + But you don't know anything + about a real-estate shut up? - 223 - 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,120 - During statesman, I work - with the United Nation. + 747 + 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,739 + In other words, that's + what Madison School - 224 - 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,585 - Kierkegaard, UNHCR. + 748 + 00:33:00,739 --> 00:33:04,910 + themselves because + they'll have a Ubers. - 225 - 00:14:29,585 --> 00:14:33,305 - What kind of work were - you doing for the UNHCR? + 749 + 00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:07,429 + And but that's the + biggest contention - 226 - 00:14:33,305 --> 00:14:36,245 - They asked me to help + 750 + 00:33:07,429 --> 00:33:09,590 + we've had and it turned out fine. - 227 - 00:14:36,245 --> 00:14:40,460 - prepare check that - less of the employee + 751 + 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:13,159 + Do that. 1913, which + a peace conference - 228 - 00:14:40,460 --> 00:14:43,940 - working there and then they paid + 752 + 00:33:13,159 --> 00:33:14,960 + that my brother didn't go. - 229 - 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:45,590 - as a salary every week + 753 + 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,429 + I didn't know he was working on - 230 - 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:48,450 - to the employee that - within the camp. + 754 + 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,360 + the cattle are going to get from - 231 - 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,030 - And then Okay. + 755 + 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,515 + the next year or something. - 232 - 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,970 - So then in 1984 you came - to the United States. + 756 + 00:33:18,515 --> 00:33:20,120 + And they said, Why + does your brother one, - 233 - 00:14:55,970 --> 00:15:00,005 - Yeah, I love Golan - cam to United State, + 757 + 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,820 + we want to see him and pasture. - 234 - 00:15:00,005 --> 00:15:03,259 - but stay a one week in Singapore. + 758 + 00:33:22,820 --> 00:33:24,529 + Hinrich stood up and gave - 235 - 00:15:03,259 --> 00:15:06,380 - Ten that the color processing, + 759 + 00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:26,570 + every part of my brother, + which was out of ij, - 236 - 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:09,800 - waiting for the flight to come. + 760 + 00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:30,889 + where he said but only did say - 237 - 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,890 - Okay. And while you were in + 761 + 00:33:30,889 --> 00:33:35,630 + He said he and my brother were + just close, like brothers, - 238 - 00:15:12,890 --> 00:15:15,260 - Indonesia and in - Singapore, you were also, + 762 + 00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:37,864 + you know, my brother + which __init__ - 239 - 00:15:15,260 --> 00:15:17,480 - they were telling - you or teaching you + 763 + 00:33:37,864 --> 00:33:39,439 + chert pregnant young people - 240 - 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,805 - about the United States and - how things operate here, + 764 + 00:33:39,439 --> 00:33:41,465 + who've been to Sunday + school led the choir. - 241 - 00:15:22,805 --> 00:15:25,010 - is that when you have a class + 765 + 00:33:41,465 --> 00:33:43,249 + And when I came, I became to - 242 - 00:15:25,010 --> 00:15:27,710 - teaching three months for people, + 766 + 00:33:43,249 --> 00:33:46,460 + prepare young people + to president. - 243 - 00:15:27,710 --> 00:15:31,055 - but I don't have a chance to - learn all of that because + 767 + 00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:49,700 + And didn't either + privately saying, - 244 - 00:15:31,055 --> 00:15:34,280 - they say that I can speak - English, I can understand. + 768 + 00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,409 + alright, began to preach - 245 - 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,240 - So they asked me to - work to help them. + 769 + 00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:52,820 + and travel, and + I'll mention them. - 246 - 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,945 - But eventually I got a - job with the UN ACR. + 770 + 00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:55,009 + But hemorrhage stood + up there and he, - 247 - 00:15:41,945 --> 00:15:47,195 - So they kind of go to the - class on a one hour a day. + 771 + 00:33:55,009 --> 00:33:58,730 + he praised my brother and + nutrition true university about - 248 - 00:15:47,195 --> 00:15:50,190 - And beside that, I - just go to work. + 772 + 00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:02,359 + true lady wearing stage - 249 - 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:53,180 - Okay. Did you fly directly to + 773 + 00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:03,859 + where each stage we Room and the - 250 - 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,190 - Minnesota when you - left Singapore? + 774 + 00:34:03,859 --> 00:34:05,630 + wonderful family, + they haven't family. - 251 - 00:15:55,190 --> 00:16:01,190 - Yes. Okay. And did you - come to the twin cities + 775 + 00:34:05,630 --> 00:34:08,014 + She says she hadn't + got a single fall - 252 - 00:16:01,190 --> 00:16:04,130 - or Rochester or where did that I + 776 + 00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:10,459 + and had been quoted that + he was a kind of pellet, - 253 - 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:08,375 - can then seti because my - mother-in-law came here first. + 777 + 00:34:10,459 --> 00:34:11,870 + would put things across + to do everything. - 254 - 00:16:08,375 --> 00:16:15,530 - Okay. And so did you move - in with your mother-in-law? + 778 + 00:34:11,870 --> 00:34:13,280 + Remember who told me? Yes. - 255 - 00:16:15,530 --> 00:16:20,780 - Yeah. Okay. So what once - you relocated here, + 779 + 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,590 + All he was he was he + had a wonderful patch. - 256 - 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:23,120 - what what did what - were you doing? + 780 + 00:34:15,590 --> 00:34:19,895 + All my rebellion was every + Sunday night and so on. - 257 - 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,590 - Were you taking classes or did + 781 + 00:34:19,895 --> 00:34:23,359 + And them, and then they - 258 - 00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:27,750 - they have you start working? + 782 + 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:26,510 + had voted through this thing + then and Kodak to hate them. - 259 - 00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:30,800 - The lowdown? + 783 + 00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:27,950 + And then this came on. - 260 - 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,245 - So say this is my sponsor. + 784 + 00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:29,719 + And then one of the pastors kinda - 261 - 00:16:33,245 --> 00:16:37,085 - And when I came, + 785 + 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,505 + sore about the whole thing. - 262 - 00:16:37,085 --> 00:16:42,560 - he has asked me to what job, + 786 + 00:34:31,505 --> 00:34:34,789 + He use sarcasm and he + got up and he said, - 263 - 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,310 - part time job that I want - to do, something like that. + 787 + 00:34:34,789 --> 00:34:37,729 + Well it's best to send the + school where the people are, - 264 - 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:52,760 - And they as I want - to go to school, + 788 + 00:34:37,729 --> 00:34:39,590 + the Buddhist where they - 265 - 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,855 - but I have no money, nothing. + 789 + 00:34:39,590 --> 00:34:42,800 + either Swedish and I + did a distant elastic, - 266 - 00:16:56,855 --> 00:16:59,840 - My sponsor, one meter, + 790 + 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,770 + I guess it is best to + celebrate people are the best. - 267 - 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,240 - you will find a job. + 791 + 00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:47,524 + And another pastor + loop, distribute, - 268 - 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,650 - Because they said I - can able to work. + 792 + 00:34:47,524 --> 00:34:50,240 + let's not have any That + sarcasm, nice additives. - 269 - 00:17:07,810 --> 00:17:11,690 - And about three weeks - after I sell in + 793 + 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:55,520 + And that fellow squashed + somewhere. It was, - 270 - 00:17:11,690 --> 00:17:14,900 - Minnesota and I got a job + 794 + 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,850 + it was forced out of University + of Chicago one allele. - 271 - 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:16,580 - because Sponsor work with + 795 + 00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:01,099 + And if they stop, - 272 - 00:17:16,580 --> 00:17:18,380 - the latrines social - service and got + 796 + 00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:02,870 + they stop the two they had - 273 - 00:17:18,380 --> 00:17:23,255 - a part-time job there - for about two months. + 797 + 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:04,820 + paid for to professors + and they said, - 274 - 00:17:23,255 --> 00:17:27,365 - As the clerk, there's - help filing paper + 798 + 00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:05,929 + now you're strong + enough to pay for - 275 - 00:17:27,365 --> 00:17:33,035 - or keep track document for - the refugee that came. + 799 + 00:35:05,929 --> 00:35:07,640 + yourself. That's right. - 276 - 00:17:33,035 --> 00:17:36,065 - And after that. + 800 + 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,540 + And that was one + thing and so forth. - 277 - 00:17:36,065 --> 00:17:40,130 - The job was run now has nothing - to do and they get laid + 801 + 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:14,509 + But started to say + that the seminary had - 278 - 00:17:40,130 --> 00:17:45,230 - off or stay home about one way. + 802 + 00:35:14,509 --> 00:35:18,140 + their homes air and they + had two sons and daughters. - 279 - 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,350 - And then the community, + 803 + 00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:19,625 + Some of them are fine. + + 804 + 00:35:19,625 --> 00:35:21,770 + And they loved where they - 280 - 00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:52,010 - Cambodian community in Twin City, + 805 + 00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:24,350 + had their connections into + churches and schools. - 281 - 00:17:52,010 --> 00:17:55,925 - they need some body - that able to were. + 806 + 00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:26,720 + And it wasn't beautiful, - 282 - 00:17:55,925 --> 00:18:00,655 - And the, + 807 + 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,700 + Morgan Park, it was + beautiful and all of that. - 283 - 00:18:00,655 --> 00:18:02,770 - I know one of my teachers as + 808 + 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:33,650 + But anyway, what happened? - 284 - 00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:05,680 - the board member, - the urbanization. + 809 + 00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:36,515 + Happened and nitrous, + pretty nearly unanimous. - 285 - 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,180 - And the he asked me - to go to work there. + 810 + 00:35:36,515 --> 00:35:38,570 + Now, when they voted into + Luke, who you there? - 286 - 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:12,070 - And they offer me + 811 + 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:39,890 + When they voted on + taking money from - 287 - 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:18,110 - a job full-time job at - the director of a MA. + 812 + 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:41,570 + the government for + our school here. - 288 - 00:18:18,750 --> 00:18:24,715 - So I started that job - from September 84 + 813 + 00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:43,669 + I prayed I was there - 289 - 00:18:24,715 --> 00:18:31,225 - until October edify occur - because of a lot of pressure. + 814 + 00:35:43,669 --> 00:35:46,040 + at the time we had + that on Malmstrom. - 290 - 00:18:31,225 --> 00:18:33,880 - And the job is so - hard for me to do + 815 + 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,765 + I prayed, I said, Lord, - 291 - 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,390 - it because I'm new - in this country. + 816 + 00:35:47,765 --> 00:35:50,315 + whatever way it goes, + this is humbled. - 292 - 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:39,550 - I didn't know how to read fun. + 817 + 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,700 + Whatever way this goes, + Make it two to one, - 293 - 00:18:39,550 --> 00:18:41,870 - I didn't know how to looking + 818 + 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,130 + so that they won't be any + digital system in this thing. - 294 - 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:45,155 - for fun to support the program. + 819 + 00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:56,570 + So it'll be so overwhelming. - 295 - 00:18:45,155 --> 00:18:48,365 - Finally, I decide to quit. + 820 + 00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:58,850 + And it was two to one + in favor of not taking - 296 - 00:18:48,365 --> 00:18:53,330 - Before I quit, I'm lucky - that I got another job. + 821 + 00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:01,115 + government money. + Currently himself. - 297 - 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:54,770 - So the Ramsey County + 822 + 00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:02,300 + Dr. Len present himself, - 298 - 00:18:54,770 --> 00:18:56,780 - because I'm working - with them before. + 823 + 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:06,485 + spoken to the + ministers Minneapolis. - 299 - 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:59,960 - So they they know - only that asked me + 824 + 00:36:06,485 --> 00:36:08,195 + He himself stood there. - 300 - 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,090 - too because I said I + 825 + 00:36:08,195 --> 00:36:10,565 + He's my boy. He's + in my classroom. - 301 - 00:19:02,090 --> 00:19:04,565 - don't want to end up - placing it anymore. + 826 + 00:36:10,565 --> 00:36:12,260 + I love him and he loves me. - 302 - 00:19:04,565 --> 00:19:07,865 - And then they say - you can apply job in + 827 + 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:14,194 + But he said to those ministers, - 303 - 00:19:07,865 --> 00:19:09,680 - Ramsey County and then I apply + 828 + 00:36:14,194 --> 00:36:15,755 + you will never get away from it. - 304 - 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,840 - I got that job and - but I'm here now. + 829 + 00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:17,510 + If you take money + from the government, - 305 - 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,060 - Ok. And you're with - Ramsey County now? + 830 + 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:19,789 + they'll tell you what he said, - 306 - 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,805 - Yes. What is the what - kind of a job isn't + 831 + 00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:23,000 + that he, he didn't make a speech - 307 - 00:19:16,805 --> 00:19:19,820 - the first job that I got as + 832 + 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,320 + and they would be the ones - 308 - 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:23,615 - an interpreter to help - people in Ramsey County. + 833 + 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,690 + you so gracious + doctor encouraged. - 309 - 00:19:23,615 --> 00:19:27,425 - That about three years later, + 834 + 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:30,290 + And this invite, Dr. Len + crescendo on the platform. - 310 - 00:19:27,425 --> 00:19:30,530 - the county of tests + 835 + 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:31,955 + Climactic Li He shed. - 311 - 00:19:30,530 --> 00:19:33,980 - that I can take a test to - become a financial look. + 836 + 00:36:31,955 --> 00:36:36,575 + Now we're going to vote no + on whichever way this go, - 312 - 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:38,690 - And then I pass at - that time in 1989. + 837 + 00:36:36,575 --> 00:36:40,415 + whether it goes one way or the + other way, it's all right. - 313 - 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:40,880 - So I have become a - financial it then + 838 + 00:36:40,415 --> 00:36:41,540 + We'll just close. - 314 - 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,725 - Ramsey County, OK. Now, + 839 + 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:44,150 + Irange have worked + together in prayer. - 315 - 00:19:42,725 --> 00:19:47,045 - are you working with solely - with Cambodians and other + 840 + 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:45,934 + Lord that had beautiful - 316 - 00:19:47,045 --> 00:19:49,880 - Asians or are you working with + 841 + 00:36:45,934 --> 00:36:48,855 + and write in English + from his heart. - 317 - 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,045 - a wide variety of - groups of my job now? + 842 + 00:36:48,855 --> 00:36:51,669 + Well, that's good. You mentioned - 318 - 00:19:53,045 --> 00:19:57,200 - Yep. No, I'm working but - the American client. + 843 + 00:36:51,669 --> 00:36:56,125 + the strong allegiance to the War. - 319 - 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,090 - I'm not every fuji, + 844 + 00:36:56,125 --> 00:36:57,940 + Second World War. - 320 - 00:19:59,090 --> 00:20:00,350 - so no work at all. + 845 + 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:01,989 + Wasn't the conference + fairly antiwar - 321 - 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:07,820 - Okay. No. I preferred that - American because I know + 846 + 00:37:01,989 --> 00:37:05,830 + during the First World + War on its history? - 322 - 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:12,545 - too many people in - the community and + 847 + 00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,629 + And I wonder how does change, - 323 - 00:20:12,545 --> 00:20:14,690 - I don't want to - involve that because + 848 + 00:37:07,629 --> 00:37:09,910 + while they were such a + spirit of patriotism - 324 - 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:17,975 - of the confidential Sure. + 849 + 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:12,430 + sweeping the edu.duke endeavor? - 325 - 00:20:17,975 --> 00:20:21,065 - And the problem with - communication or whatever. + 850 + 00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:15,145 + Some, no doubt as I would + be huge, like have some. - 326 - 00:20:21,065 --> 00:20:22,940 - So I write a little bit. + 851 + 00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:19,330 + But there were such + Illinois Loyalty. - 327 - 00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:25,775 - When they put me in - the job, they asked, + 852 + 00:37:19,330 --> 00:37:22,629 + And now that you even + had to harbor you go - 328 - 00:20:25,775 --> 00:20:27,950 - I didn't have a chance - to choose that, + 853 + 00:37:22,629 --> 00:37:26,515 + a scant gradations for your + food if they found people. - 329 - 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:29,960 - but they couldn't live up - at their mark on clients, + 854 + 00:37:26,515 --> 00:37:28,285 + One of my best friends URL, - 330 - 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,010 - so I decided to stay. + 855 + 00:37:28,285 --> 00:37:29,950 + that lawyer in Chicago, earnest. - 331 - 00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:32,180 - I didn't bow to let + 856 + 00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:31,320 + He stood up at my wedding. - 332 - 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:41,930 - each unit would or + 857 + 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,140 + Fairness to England. - 333 - 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,120 - are there things that - that concern you + 858 + 00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:36,229 + He, he's a lawyer in + Chicago, Principle Fellow, - 334 - 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,365 - or or problems that that you are. + 859 + 00:37:36,229 --> 00:37:38,000 + but he was a private officer to - 335 - 00:20:48,365 --> 00:20:51,350 - Face having been in - the United States, + 860 + 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,889 + go around and + chicken at homes and - 336 - 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,480 - particularly Minnesota - for the past few years. + 861 + 00:37:39,889 --> 00:37:43,535 + look at they had hidden + away potatoes are a flower. - 337 - 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 - Are there are there are - issues that that concern + 862 + 00:37:43,535 --> 00:37:45,965 + And he had carried + a gun, Revolver, - 338 - 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,380 - you are or you do think + 863 + 00:37:45,965 --> 00:37:48,230 + and that she, they, - 339 - 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:59,120 - about it a fair - amount in terms of, + 864 + 00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:49,820 + that that was a crime. - 340 - 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,565 - of your transition into + 865 + 00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:51,380 + You shouldn't harbor food - 341 - 00:21:01,565 --> 00:21:03,290 - US society and also + 866 + 00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:53,945 + or stone when he called + it store it and so on. - 342 - 00:21:03,290 --> 00:21:05,630 - perhaps fellow Cambodians - sort of moved here. + 867 + 00:37:53,945 --> 00:37:56,600 + But generally + speaking, I would say - 343 - 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:08,630 - Are there any kinds of - things that trouble you? + 868 + 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,280 + it and bang it bonds + was almost compulsory. - 344 - 00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:13,640 - My concern is for - Cambodian people, + 869 + 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,799 + I was in big spring, South Dakota - 345 - 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,375 - especially the family without + 870 + 00:38:03,799 --> 00:38:06,199 + speaking for the layman - 346 - 00:21:17,375 --> 00:21:21,350 - a single family, single pattern. + 871 + 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,330 + for money for the + college building, - 347 - 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:27,200 - And also that moat - pendant and household. + 872 + 00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:13,230 + which had been the catabolic + pharmacology billing. And - 348 - 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:34,774 - Most of Cambodian that came - to United State during ARE. + 873 + 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,745 + they told of a man who came + over from, from Germany. - 349 - 00:21:34,774 --> 00:21:38,460 - So now most of them, + 874 + 00:38:18,745 --> 00:38:23,289 + He was chairman of crushers + hearing paper, Jeremy, - 350 - 00:21:38,650 --> 00:21:47,465 - they don't have a lot our - education background, + 875 + 00:38:23,289 --> 00:38:25,570 + and he had made a + lot of money and - 351 - 00:21:47,465 --> 00:21:50,105 - and most of them farmer + 876 + 00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:28,525 + an officer went to him + and he said how much. - 352 - 00:21:50,105 --> 00:21:54,230 - or a citizen that - live in the city, + 877 + 00:38:28,525 --> 00:38:31,585 + He asked him about his + property and he answered two. - 353 - 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:57,920 - but they did not have - a good background + 878 + 00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:34,690 + He said How how many cavity + you had? So on, so on. - 354 - 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:05,300 - about the skill that - fit in this society. + 879 + 00:38:34,690 --> 00:38:36,369 + So how much of that + you'll want to - 355 - 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,980 - And they have a lot of - problem to adjusted. + 880 + 00:38:36,369 --> 00:38:39,325 + Antoine Shuangcheng, + that's on software. - 356 - 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,905 - But for myself that I can speak, + 881 + 00:38:39,325 --> 00:38:41,054 + You've made it an American made - 357 - 00:22:12,905 --> 00:22:16,100 - I cannot just faster than them. + 882 + 00:38:41,054 --> 00:38:43,195 + right here in this + state didn't change. - 358 - 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:21,080 - And the people that they know - nothing about the language, + 883 + 00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:45,069 + And you aren't going + to buy an elaborate - 359 - 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,610 - they tend to be really - hard to adjust them. + 884 + 00:38:45,069 --> 00:38:48,535 + about, I tell you what you do. - 360 - 00:22:25,610 --> 00:22:28,970 - And the family that + 885 + 00:38:48,535 --> 00:38:52,900 + You go back to your + homeland, the way of Cain. - 361 - 00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:35,030 - some people that cannot read - or write their own language, + 886 + 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:57,410 + Leave this here. I'm not saying + that because she did it. - 362 - 00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:39,080 - as it's rarely frosted - them for them to learn + 887 + 00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:02,030 + And good reasons, you're - 363 - 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,210 - the other Langley because + 888 + 00:39:02,030 --> 00:39:03,890 + not appreciating that you've + made all their money here. - 364 - 00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:43,535 - they all know they don't - know how to read and write. + 889 + 00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:05,689 + You had opportunities + and yet you set - 365 - 00:22:43,535 --> 00:22:45,620 - They know how to - speed communication, + 890 + 00:39:05,689 --> 00:39:07,985 + your foot down + against cooperation. - 366 - 00:22:45,620 --> 00:22:47,390 - but for reading and writing, + 891 + 00:39:07,985 --> 00:39:10,370 + Where then the + Germans said, well, - 367 - 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:50,990 - it's really hard and - it made them more + 892 + 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:12,994 + what do you want to + do that and said, - 368 - 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:55,580 - harder than anybody - that can speak, read, + 893 + 00:39:12,994 --> 00:39:16,655 + I want you to buy $40 + thousand abundancy setups. - 369 - 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,860 - and write their - own name and says, + 894 + 00:39:16,655 --> 00:39:17,390 + And he did it. - 370 - 00:22:57,860 --> 00:22:59,330 - my concern is that + 895 + 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,805 + He did it, he did well. - 371 - 00:22:59,330 --> 00:23:03,290 - those people are really - hard to adjust to this, + 896 + 00:39:19,805 --> 00:39:21,080 + Cz you had those. - 372 - 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:08,540 - this society and that the state. + 897 + 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,510 + It did one by month and that. - 373 - 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:11,030 - They gobble men and this + 898 + 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:25,880 + But most people did. + Who could? Who could? - 374 - 00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:14,430 - they should understand - and it should help them. + 899 + 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,250 + Every church had a service flag, - 375 - 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,550 - Do you think, what do you - think would be the best, + 900 + 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,875 + and this isn't very + conspicuous place. - 376 - 00:23:19,550 --> 00:23:22,100 - best approach to that education? + 901 + 00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:33,890 + The 990s annual conference listed - 377 - 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:27,080 - Or what do you + 902 + 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:36,529 + every single somebody's + Baptist border - 378 - 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,730 - think would work in terms + 903 + 00:39:36,529 --> 00:39:38,929 + was in service. So + there was a kind of - 379 - 00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:31,625 - of perhaps helping - them adjust better? + 904 + 00:39:38,929 --> 00:39:43,609 + and yet just I had recall + that tax of Anderson - 380 - 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:34,294 - They need a lot of support. + 905 + 00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:46,880 + and read to us at + our church one time - 381 - 00:23:34,294 --> 00:23:38,284 - Especially the families support, + 906 + 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,945 + a resolution which was made + that was very anti war. - 382 - 00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:42,830 - because they used to live in + 907 + 00:39:50,945 --> 00:39:54,110 + I thought that from the + early part where there were - 383 - 00:23:42,830 --> 00:23:45,740 - the the period of time + 908 + 00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:57,485 + some of that other were + anti-war reservoirs. - 384 - 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:49,835 - that have a lot of - crisis that need to Y. + 909 + 00:39:57,485 --> 00:39:58,789 + There were these general, - 385 - 00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:53,870 - And also that they - have a horrible time. + 910 + 00:39:58,789 --> 00:40:01,850 + and I'm just wondering how + they played really well, - 386 - 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:57,800 - That they never, they - cannot forget about that. + 911 + 00:40:01,850 --> 00:40:05,660 + but it's real sentiment + was not that well. - 387 - 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 - Because of the the life + 912 + 00:40:05,660 --> 00:40:08,030 + I don't think there + will your mind, - 388 - 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,025 - that they have gone through - during the tomorrows, + 913 + 00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:10,370 + but yeah, it was a + case of patriotism. - 389 - 00:24:04,025 --> 00:24:11,360 - make them some people - that almost lost memory. + 914 + 00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:12,559 + But right now it's - 390 - 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:17,420 - They become so much The Press. + 915 + 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:16,369 + interesting that she had - 391 - 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:20,900 - But they don't know - how to speak out. + 916 + 00:40:16,369 --> 00:40:20,900 + Wb right towards the area + during all this time. - 392 - 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:24,755 - They don't know how - to tell the ADA and + 917 + 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,020 + What kind of relationships + did the school, - 393 - 00:24:24,755 --> 00:24:30,155 - our culture people nothing - one to share their problem, + 918 + 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:27,440 + and I'm very glad + close really rally. - 394 - 00:24:30,155 --> 00:24:35,930 - to be either unless they trust - Azariah, close relative. + 919 + 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,029 + The last years I had + the honor of being - 395 - 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:39,695 - If you are working, - tried to help them. + 920 + 00:40:29,029 --> 00:40:31,310 + a close friend of + Dr. alienated me. - 396 - 00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:40,925 - If they don't know you, + 921 + 00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:32,824 + His last letter to me, - 397 - 00:24:40,925 --> 00:24:42,920 - they don't want to - share any idea or + 922 + 00:40:32,824 --> 00:40:37,009 + you said that I don't + know why it was wonderful - 398 - 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,095 - they don't want to share - any problem with you. + 923 + 00:40:37,009 --> 00:40:41,719 + to she was in his + last letter to me, - 399 - 00:24:45,095 --> 00:24:47,015 - So you cannot help them. + 924 + 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,880 + I would not see him and + even when he was sick. - 400 - 00:24:47,015 --> 00:24:49,820 - But if they understand - the culture, + 925 + 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,280 + And so what ever happened to me? - 401 - 00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:51,410 - they understand a problem, + 926 + 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,569 + He says, I may not be here - 402 - 00:24:51,410 --> 00:24:53,240 - trying to help them. + 927 + 00:40:47,569 --> 00:40:50,930 + La Jolla in all the + years at your school. - 403 - 00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,750 - Sometime people offer the - problem so we can help them. + 928 + 00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:53,510 + And my school has been + here in the Twin Cities. - 404 - 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,900 - And the other thing + 929 + 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:55,219 + We have not found anything to - 405 - 00:25:06,490 --> 00:25:11,945 - right now is that the - kid growing up here, + 930 + 00:40:55,219 --> 00:40:57,709 + criticize your school + either spiritually, - 406 - 00:25:11,945 --> 00:25:15,815 - they'd learn the lay at - faster than the parent. + 931 + 00:40:57,709 --> 00:41:00,725 + Oscar, elastically, we've + had one preferred learning. - 407 - 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:20,060 - And then to have a - different point of view, + 932 + 00:41:00,725 --> 00:41:03,245 + And then he said, we'd + ever happened to me. - 408 - 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,480 - some care did grow up in - the cam when he came here. + 933 + 00:41:03,245 --> 00:41:04,879 + I belongs to the Lord. Of course, - 409 - 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,840 - They don't know about the - Cambodia culture at all. + 934 + 00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:06,064 + whatever happens to me, - 410 - 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,295 - And then the chi - Laika have a problem + 935 + 00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:08,089 + I want you to + continue to speak to - 411 - 00:25:31,295 --> 00:25:36,770 - between parents and children - and between because the kid, + 936 + 00:41:08,089 --> 00:41:10,025 + the Northwestern students - 412 - 00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:38,990 - when they live in home, + 937 + 00:41:10,025 --> 00:41:12,755 + and where we had that privilege. - 413 - 00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:40,490 - depend on one num to be + 938 + 00:41:12,755 --> 00:41:15,170 + And I wish we had - 414 - 00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:44,735 - Cambodian to discipline them - the way that they work. + 939 + 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:18,740 + the January Conference here + and we had it in 5246. - 415 - 00:25:44,735 --> 00:25:46,160 - Well when they go to school, + 940 + 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:20,945 + I think this was on the campus. - 416 - 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,115 - they have another law - that they must follow. + 941 + 00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:22,850 + And I I was challenged + on a conference. - 417 - 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,220 - There must obey - that, this society. + 942 + 00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:24,920 + Chairman 52. Awesome. + But on their way. - 418 - 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:54,515 - And then when they go back - to school, Chi legged, + 943 + 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,844 + And I was chairman twice anyway, - 419 - 00:25:54,515 --> 00:25:58,235 - two different society for - them that it's hard to her. + 944 + 00:41:27,844 --> 00:41:31,249 + and we've got Dr. Ryan + and to give a series of - 420 - 00:25:58,235 --> 00:25:59,990 - So it essay, we need to have + 945 + 00:41:31,249 --> 00:41:33,334 + talks to the General Conference - 421 - 00:25:59,990 --> 00:26:02,900 - some people that understand - a problem tried to + 946 + 00:41:33,334 --> 00:41:35,330 + and he's drive would + come with him. - 422 - 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:07,040 - help him to adjusted by - offering my education + 947 + 00:41:35,330 --> 00:41:37,009 + I said Dr. Riley, - 423 - 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,465 - to them or some kind acre - or training to them, + 948 + 00:41:37,009 --> 00:41:39,755 + give us give us + victorious life torch. - 424 - 00:26:11,465 --> 00:26:15,140 - trying to know made them - and wild with the society, + 949 + 00:41:39,755 --> 00:41:42,905 + And then I'm going to do + just what you're saying. - 425 - 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,720 - become a productive citizen. + 950 + 00:41:42,905 --> 00:41:45,035 + I want to try not + to talk too long. - 426 - 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,870 - How do you feel that, + 951 + 00:41:45,035 --> 00:41:47,210 + We had it in the + hippodrome in February. - 427 - 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:25,420 - that you've worked on a lot of + 952 + 00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:50,930 + She then piggybacked + on their first time. - 428 - 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:30,160 - the in terms of what you - went through in Cambodia, + 953 + 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:51,979 + We had to have it another hall - 429 - 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,710 - Do you feel that you've - had opportunities to, + 954 + 00:41:51,979 --> 00:41:53,210 + than the hippodrome is built for. - 430 - 00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:34,480 - to address that the, + 955 + 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:56,509 + The second one, environment - 431 - 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,465 - the experience and work - through all of that yourself. + 956 + 00:41:56,509 --> 00:41:59,150 + was in charge of + reception preparation. - 432 - 00:26:37,465 --> 00:26:39,925 - You feel like you. I think so. + 957 + 00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,199 + Keys to wish, you know, - 433 - 00:26:39,925 --> 00:26:45,610 - Because when you go to you - can see a lot of thing. + 958 + 00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:04,700 + I think like readmission. - 434 - 00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:49,495 - Most of I feel that I + 959 + 00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:09,920 + Dr. Riley had some controversies + here via evolution. - 435 - 00:26:49,495 --> 00:26:52,840 - know a lot of thing - in this country, + 960 + 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,275 + Yes, yes. That's kinda + funny. At times. - 436 - 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,480 - mod and I knew in my hand. + 961 + 00:42:15,275 --> 00:42:17,029 + He, he was going to speak at - 437 - 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,735 - And tell me late - the government or + 962 + 00:42:17,029 --> 00:42:20,240 + the University of Minnesota + and then something happens, - 438 - 00:26:58,735 --> 00:27:04,325 - the system how to - process in this society. + 963 + 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,475 + so he couldn't do it. - 439 - 00:27:04,325 --> 00:27:06,710 - Because when I was in Cambodia, + 964 + 00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:25,099 + And the kind of credit + abroad that they turned it - 440 - 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:08,990 - I didn't know about the Congress. + 965 + 00:42:25,099 --> 00:42:29,405 + down and that made it put it + out in English, clear sign. - 441 - 00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:11,285 - How many Congress - in Cambodia Hub, + 966 + 00:42:29,405 --> 00:42:31,595 + And some president + Kaufmann, he said, - 442 - 00:27:11,285 --> 00:27:12,940 - how the legislature work, + 967 + 00:42:31,595 --> 00:42:34,760 + we'll have him said we were + not rejecting against him. - 443 - 00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:14,540 - something like that because in + 968 + 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,770 + I don't know what the + cause of the other wedge. - 444 - 00:27:14,540 --> 00:27:16,805 - school they never - teach you to learn. + 969 + 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:38,809 + And so he arranged to have - 445 - 00:27:16,805 --> 00:27:22,295 - They just gave you all these - samurai general literature, + 970 + 00:42:38,809 --> 00:42:41,989 + William Jennings + Bryan to have Dr. - 446 - 00:27:22,295 --> 00:27:25,805 - little bit math, a little - bit, some like that. + 971 + 00:42:41,989 --> 00:42:44,930 + Riley and to speak + and announced that - 447 - 00:27:25,805 --> 00:27:30,140 - Unless you get into - the university, + 972 + 00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:48,620 + the university so you'd have + a free reign right away. - 448 - 00:27:30,140 --> 00:27:35,630 - you trying to be a doctor - or a professor or whatever. + 973 + 00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:50,240 + And then something happened. - 449 - 00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:36,740 - And then you can know + 974 + 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,980 + Just a doctor, violet - 450 - 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:39,320 - only the brand that - you go and needs. + 975 + 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:54,049 + Kaufman was pregnant. Uterus has - 451 - 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,985 - No general knowledge - like this society. + 976 + 00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:55,880 + rightly or roaster speech. - 452 - 00:27:43,985 --> 00:27:49,400 - So is people like myself - that want to learn more, + 977 + 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,150 + So packed up above the + ceiling with lub dub. - 453 - 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,734 - want to have a better - understanding. + 978 + 00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:03,439 + Amongst the artificial + monkey showed was that - 454 - 00:27:53,734 --> 00:27:56,990 - English can communicate - with the people here. + 979 + 00:43:03,439 --> 00:43:06,139 + rescue Fred Ryan and - 455 - 00:27:56,990 --> 00:28:00,050 - So we have a better chance to + 980 + 00:43:06,139 --> 00:43:08,600 + President COP and leapt + up like a gentleman. - 456 - 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:03,230 - adjust to live in this society. + 981 + 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,294 + He says, I want to apologize, + + 982 + 00:43:10,294 --> 00:43:11,750 + Dr. Riley, for this. - 457 - 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:07,730 - So people that I think the - problem is the communication. + 983 + 00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:14,570 + It's a prank and + were ashamed of it. - 458 - 00:28:07,730 --> 00:28:09,680 - If the people can - learn the language + 984 + 00:43:14,570 --> 00:43:16,460 + You said that was well done. - 459 - 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,290 - faster so they can adjust - whatever they won. + 985 + 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:25,620 + You've seen in another + debate name was Dr. Schmidt. - 460 - 00:28:14,350 --> 00:28:19,230 - Okay. Stu law. 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+ 990 + 00:43:34,904 --> 00:43:39,490 + rather it's published + match right there. - 6 - 00:00:32,075 --> 00:00:35,495 - What kind of coping mechanisms - have you developed? + 991 + 00:43:39,490 --> 00:43:43,450 + And that speaker broader + monkey and rarely leave. - 7 - 00:00:35,495 --> 00:00:39,450 - How have you worked out - all of those issues? + 992 + 00:43:43,450 --> 00:43:46,990 + We says, I see, I + see I was mistaken. - 8 - 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,075 - Until right now? + 993 + 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:50,110 + I thought I was going to + speak to Dr. Schmidt, - 9 - 00:00:47,075 --> 00:00:51,530 - When I think about + 994 + 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:51,519 + but now I'm speaking to the Smith - 10 - 00:00:51,530 --> 00:00:55,385 - the when the tie and - doing the command, + 995 + 00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:57,670 + Brother's got the government + took the OD is just wrong. - 11 - 00:00:55,385 --> 00:00:58,700 - I still have a bad dream. + 996 + 00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:02,830 + And I guess everybody + around them, Dr. Riley was, - 12 - 00:00:58,700 --> 00:01:06,215 - Usually if the hot and - so tired during the day. + 997 + 00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:05,830 + as I understood it, a great + brand and the labor and - 13 - 00:01:06,215 --> 00:01:08,135 - And you go to sleep. + 998 + 00:44:05,830 --> 00:44:08,815 + the poor in his cargo. - 14 - 00:01:08,135 --> 00:01:12,055 - Alvin dream about - during the time. + 999 + 00:44:08,815 --> 00:44:11,350 + Yes, but he didn't + let him run him. - 15 - 00:01:12,055 --> 00:01:16,960 - Sometime I saw blade to Meroe, + 1000 + 00:44:11,350 --> 00:44:16,610 + He didn't let a running VM + or human friend. All right? - 16 - 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:20,020 - are the people with - the leader to come + 1001 + 00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:20,130 + He was, he was a genius. - 17 - 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:23,785 - out or the shoulder that - trying to catch me, + 1002 + 00:44:21,220 --> 00:44:24,335 + They had a debate in this church - 18 - 00:01:23,785 --> 00:01:25,750 - wanted to kill me something. + 1003 + 00:44:24,335 --> 00:44:28,250 + and nobody wish to speak + with those two speakers. - 19 - 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:31,570 - And after terrible - nightmare light + 1004 + 00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:30,349 + And one rally agreed with, - 20 - 00:01:31,570 --> 00:01:35,110 - that just woke up in - the middle of May and + 1005 + 00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:32,210 + and the other one of course, + he didn't agree with. - 21 - 00:01:35,110 --> 00:01:38,905 - I couldn't sleep at - R. So out of my mind, + 1006 + 00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:34,970 + And when averaged over, - 22 - 00:01:38,905 --> 00:01:46,405 - you're thinking I start to - trying to suppress them down, + 1007 + 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:39,350 + nobody was allowed to speak + notion and interests over. - 23 - 00:01:46,405 --> 00:01:48,520 - tried to forget about that. + 1008 + 00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:42,065 + Dr. Riley had been + an estimate to make. - 24 - 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,495 - Trying to think about the - future instead of the path. + 1009 + 00:44:42,065 --> 00:44:44,360 + And so he got a big announcement. - 25 - 00:01:52,495 --> 00:01:56,870 - And I don't want to Aldo dream. + 1010 + 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,829 + And then he said, and by the way, - 26 - 00:01:56,910 --> 00:01:59,785 - Come back again in my mind. + 1011 + 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:47,269 + I'd like to say this, - 27 - 00:01:59,785 --> 00:02:02,829 - This is just trying to think - everything in the future. + 1012 + 00:44:47,269 --> 00:44:48,499 + I think I'll take over - 28 - 00:02:02,829 --> 00:02:04,690 - What most of the - time when they have + 1013 + 00:44:48,499 --> 00:44:49,880 + the preacher purse + because he's easy. - 29 - 00:02:04,690 --> 00:02:07,930 - that dream late that - icon sleep RNA. + 1014 + 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,795 + Stan Lee said wonders + appreciative. - 30 - 00:02:07,930 --> 00:02:14,560 - And trying to take like a - medicine to may get headache, + 1015 + 00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:55,460 + And then he went and + covered the whole 6-bit, - 31 - 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,930 - take medicine so they can sleep. + 1016 + 00:44:55,460 --> 00:45:00,080 + took away the flag victory. - 32 - 00:02:16,930 --> 00:02:23,800 - And especially I try to work, + 1017 + 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,779 + He expressed sided one, - 33 - 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,400 - but this is just only myself that + 1018 + 00:45:02,779 --> 00:45:05,675 + I think while I think he + disagreed with both of them. - 34 - 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,929 - I know that I can forget - all those thing easily. + 1019 + 00:45:05,675 --> 00:45:08,090 + So he says handled + administer versus easiest. - 35 - 00:02:31,929 --> 00:02:36,095 - Because solver, working the data, + 1020 + 00:45:08,090 --> 00:45:09,169 + And likewise that helped, - 36 - 00:02:36,095 --> 00:02:38,375 - people have a lot of friend, + 1021 + 00:45:09,169 --> 00:45:12,485 + you know, the other + side how many? - 37 - 00:02:38,375 --> 00:02:41,990 - tough about the future toddler - by something else that + 1022 + 00:45:12,485 --> 00:45:14,960 + He covered both of them and - 38 - 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:48,530 - fun because I can easy - to forget our dosing. + 1023 + 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,330 + got in the what he called + the truth than the matter. - 39 - 00:02:48,530 --> 00:02:49,970 - But if it comes up to + 1024 + 00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:22,730 + You're smart. Did you + preach in your rallies? - 40 - 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:54,680 - my mind that take - at least 24 hours, + 1025 + 00:45:22,730 --> 00:45:27,139 + Charity I purchase I + Princeton at the time, - 41 - 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,475 - something like that, this - wondering around those thing. + 1026 + 00:45:27,139 --> 00:45:30,680 + maybe that pitch duration and + Tabernacle Baptist Church. - 42 - 00:02:58,475 --> 00:03:02,285 - And I know you've got a problem. + 1027 + 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,570 + But I preached in 50 churches - 43 - 00:03:02,285 --> 00:03:04,385 - Just walk away. + 1028 + 00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:34,670 + inter-institutional + with smaller Jersey. - 44 - 00:03:04,385 --> 00:03:07,650 - Take all, go somewhere. + 1029 + 00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:37,474 + Yeah, I'm Swedish Baptist, - 45 - 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:11,390 - Our tile with a friend, - different subject. + 1030 + 00:45:37,474 --> 00:45:41,340 + American Baptist, + Presbyterian, Luther, - 46 - 00:03:11,390 --> 00:03:13,190 - Try to forget that. + 1031 + 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:49,460 + Episcopalian ones, and + sometimes junior services. - 47 - 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:16,550 - Sometime like have an - American friend asking + 1032 + 00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:51,425 + I had an illustration. - 48 - 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:18,950 - about AS topping a little bit + 1033 + 00:45:51,425 --> 00:45:53,135 + We'll close with this shabby, - 49 - 00:03:18,950 --> 00:03:22,080 - and then one day - chained to the Odyssey. + 1034 + 00:45:53,135 --> 00:45:56,375 + This is beautiful, and + they want me to repeat it. - 50 - 00:03:24,430 --> 00:03:27,770 - Well, do you have - anything else that you'd + 1035 + 00:45:56,375 --> 00:45:59,000 + A man was way out in the wilds - 51 - 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:31,320 - like to add that we - haven't covered? + 1036 + 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,475 + of the Northwest United States, - 52 - 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:38,840 - I don't know. That's that's + 1037 + 00:46:01,475 --> 00:46:04,009 + and he was all alone, - 53 - 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,740 - all of the questions I - have for now. Thank you. - recorded_at: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 01:34:18 GMT + 1038 + 00:46:04,009 --> 00:46:07,890 + working as a pioneer + and he dug a well. + recorded_at: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 00:51:45 GMT recorded_with: VCR 6.1.0 diff --git a/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb b/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb index 2582580c..510a1cc8 100644 --- a/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb +++ b/spec/lib/mdl/captions_formatter_spec.rb @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ module MDL describe CaptionsFormatter do around do |spec| - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions') { spec.run } + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions', tag: :kaltura) { spec.run } end describe '.format' do diff --git a/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb b/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb index c8fff9d3..89335286 100644 --- a/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb +++ b/spec/lib/mdl/kaltura_playlist_data_formatter_spec.rb @@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ module MDL end it 'calls Kaltura to get the playlist, and the the content' do - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/audio_playlist') do + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/audio_playlist', tag: :kaltura) do expect(JSON.parse(result, symbolize_names: true )).to eq([ { entry_id: '1_aodbyxua', duration: 665, name: 'Interview with Vishant Shah, Part 1' }, { entry_id: '1_880z74b6', duration: 608, name: 'Interview with Vishant Shah, Part 2' }, @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ module MDL end it 'fetches the playlist from Kaltura' do - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/video_playlist') do + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/video_playlist', tag: :kaltura) do parsed_result = JSON.parse(result, symbolize_names: true ) expect(parsed_result.size).to eq(2) diff --git a/spec/rails_helper.rb b/spec/rails_helper.rb index f45b4aa3..ddfedeef 100644 --- a/spec/rails_helper.rb +++ b/spec/rails_helper.rb @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ } config.ignore_localhost = true # config.debug_logger = $stdout - config.filter_sensitive_data('') do |int| + config.filter_sensitive_data('', :kaltura) do |int| req = int.request next unless req.uri.match(%r{www.kaltura.com}) @@ -36,13 +36,31 @@ when :get then req.uri.match(/ks=(.*)\z/).captures[0] end end - config.before_playback do |interaction| - req = interaction.request + config.filter_sensitive_data('', :kaltura) do |int| + req = int.request + next unless req.method == :post + next unless req.uri.match(%r{www.kaltura.com}) + + JSON.parse(req.body)['kalsig'] + end + ### + # VCR hook called before the cassette is matched against an outgoing request. + # Here we must reverse the effects of the +filter_sensitive_data+ hooks above. + # Unfortunately, that includes recalculating the request signature applied by + # the Kaltura SDK. + config.before_playback(:kaltura) do |int| + req = int.request next unless req.uri.match(%r{www.kaltura.com}) case req.method - when :post then req.body.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION']) - when :get then req.uri.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION']) + when :get then req.uri.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION'].to_s) + when :post + req.body.sub!('', ENV['KALTURA_SESSION'].to_s) + client = Kaltura::KalturaClient.new(Kaltura::KalturaConfiguration.new) + params = JSON.parse(req.body).except('kalsig') + sig = client.signature(params) + params['kalsig'] = sig + req.body = JSON.generate(params) end end end diff --git a/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb b/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb index 6e667c57..403cb7eb 100644 --- a/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb +++ b/spec/services/fetch_caption_service_spec.rb @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ describe FetchCaptionService do around do |spec| - VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions') { spec.run } + VCR.use_cassette('kaltura/captions', tag: :kaltura) { spec.run } end context 'when there is more than one format available' do