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support wayland #76

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subjectdenied opened this issue Sep 16, 2020 · 4 comments
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support wayland #76

subjectdenied opened this issue Sep 16, 2020 · 4 comments

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@subjectdenied
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as wayland soon will be default for many distros, and the fact that wayland deals with security issues and fixes many shortcomings of desktop linux that are written into the architecture of X11, it is needed for Shadow to support Wayland on linux

shadow in fact is the only application on linux, that still forces me to use X11

i hope this issue doesn't close down, as the other one was, cause this would be a sign of Shadow or this developer, not wanting to deal with the topic, and also show that i better put my money elsewhere

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apognu commented Oct 22, 2020

This is a bit unfair to the maintainer of this repo, they are not affiliated with Shadow and are doing their best to provide us with something usable. I would love Wayland support for Shadow as much as the next person, but this is something that should be reported to the Shadow team, not @NicolasGuilloux.

I understand the frustration, but I'm not sure this is the best place to release pressure.

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NicolasGuilloux commented Oct 27, 2020

Hi there !

As @apognu said (thanks btw!), I'm not a member of Blade's team so, in my scale, I can't fix anything without some tape and a lot of luck.
Actually during a (french) Shadow News, they talked about Wayland and how it would be great to support it. JB also talked about it on the (French again) Discord, so maybe it is in the pipe, I really don't know.

About Wayland itself, if it is used by Ubuntu by default and is very promising, it doesn't have as much features as Xorg nor it has the libraries yet. I would love to drop Xorg aswell, but with Wayland current state, it is not possible to easily port Shadow on it. There is just not all the features available.

A trick propose by @elyhaka is to start the renderer in another tty that start a XServer. It has to be developped and even the community can build it with some patience, I am sure. :)

Moreover, I want to point the new CTO, the maintainer of VLC, is a Linux guy that likes Wayland and love OpenSource but just joined the company. Maybe we can hope for a better future for Shadow on Linux with this guy joining the team.

And about your money well spent, I'm not skilled enough to manage your budget. ;)

PS: I talked about it here but an update never hurts

@subjectdenied
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sry, didnt know you are not affiliated to shadow. i attented the stream myself, the new cto clearly means a lot for shadow on linux

@NicolasGuilloux
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The CTO talked about Wayland and told that they are currently testing it. No information about when it will be available, et no information about the current state of the dev.

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