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hetzner #97

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nelsonic opened this issue Oct 20, 2024 · 10 comments
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hetzner #97

nelsonic opened this issue Oct 20, 2024 · 10 comments
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hetzner is back on our radar 💭
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetzner

The baseline CX22 server with 4GB RAM is €4.55/month ($4.95 at the time of writing) this is nuts! 🥜
Crucially it has 20Tb of "transfer" (amount of data that can egress the server ...)
To get a similar 4GB RAM instance from DigitalOcean is 24/month (almost 6x more!!)
and that only comes with 4Tb of transfer!

https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/ with shared vCPU:
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And with dedicated vCPU:
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Compare this to what we're paying on DigitalOcean:
https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/droplets
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And the prices get significantly cheaper once you go "dedicated":
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/
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64 GB DDR4, 2 x 512 GB NVMe SSD for €44.76/month

This is kinda bonkers! 🤯 And cannot be ignored. 💭
What is the catch ...? 🤔

https://www.reddit.com/r/hetzner/comments/14k9xyw/why_so_many_bad_reviews_for_hetzner/

It appears that they aren't tolerant of people using their servers for illegal activities.

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Registered and setup 2FA:
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Not going to have more time to dedicate to this tonight ... 😫
Gotta get to sleep so I can get work done tomorrow. 🛌

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Lame that this credit is only valid for one month. 🤦‍♂️
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Read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hetzner/comments/vvozkh/comment/ifm9hyk/
https://techblog.nexxwave.eu/benchmark-between-cloud-servers-january-2024/

This is a very detailed and balanced benchmark and review.
hetzner has the best performance in several areas most notably

The conclusion is that between all the "challenger" cloud providers, hetzner has the best price/performance:

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Also worth noting the Data Egress Costs:
https://getdeploying.com/reference/data-egress
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So ... considering using kamal #96 with hetzner ... 💭
just wish I had infinite time to do DevOps .. ⏳

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Don't know when I'm going to have time for this ... but continue at: https://console.hetzner.cloud/projects

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At the time of writing, there are only 4 regions (6 data centers) for Hetzner cloud:
https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations/
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I would obviously prefer if there were more locations, e.g: India, Australia and Africa like DO has:
https://docs.digitalocean.com/platform/regional-availability/
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But if we assume that we're only going to deploy our App/DB in 3 regions
e.g: eu-central (fsn1), us-west (hil) and ap-southeast (sin),
then we already have the regions we need for the foreseeable future. 💭

Not expecting too many paying customers based in Africa in the short-term
simply because disposable incomes are not as high as US, EU and Asia.
But we will keep a close eye on it and if there is a need, we will consider a multi-cloud deployment.
e.g: GCP has Johnnesburg, São Paulo and Sydney: https://cloud.google.com/about/locations

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Watch: Visiting Hetzner in Falkenstein: https://youtu.be/5eo8nz_niiM (3 years old)
Insightful. They keep their costs low by custom building their servers in-house
using ASUS motherboards and commodity components.

This is not GCP. But the setup looks decent and physical access control looks good. 💭

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Already making progress on Hetzner: dwyl/learn-postgresql#114

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