diff --git a/CMakeLists.txt b/CMakeLists.txt
index 98d9944..4c1f5e9 100644
--- a/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -31,6 +31,11 @@ SOURCES
 cppm_examples_area()
 if(SERDEPP_BUILD_EXAMPLES)
 
+cppm_target_define(serde_example2 BINARY
+SOURCES
+    examples/example2.cpp
+)
+
 cppm_target_define(serde_example1 BINARY
 SOURCES
     examples/example1.cpp
@@ -129,6 +134,10 @@ PUBLIC RapidJSON nlohmann_json toml11 yaml-cpp fmt magic_enum nameof)
 cppm_target_dependencies(serdepp
    ${serdepp_global_deps})
 
+cppm_target_dependencies(serde_example2
+   ${serdepp_global_deps}
+   serdepp)
+
 cppm_target_dependencies(serde_example1
    ${serdepp_global_deps}
    serdepp)
diff --git a/examples/example2.cpp b/examples/example2.cpp
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..5d7c77a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/examples/example2.cpp
@@ -0,0 +1,100 @@
+#include <serdepp/serde.hpp>
+#include <serdepp/adaptor/nlohmann_json.hpp>
+#include <serdepp/adaptor/toml11.hpp>
+#include <serdepp/adaptor/fmt.hpp>
+#include <serdepp/adaptor/yaml-cpp.hpp>
+#include "serdepp/adaptor/rapidjson.hpp"
+#include <memory>
+
+enum class tenum {INPUT, OUTPUT, INPUT_2 , OUTPUT_2 };
+
+struct nested {
+    std::string version;
+    std::string desc;
+    std::optional<std::string> opt_desc;
+};
+DERIVE_SERDE_NON_INTRUSIVE(nested,
+                           (&Self::version, "version", value_or_struct)
+                           (&Self::opt_desc ,"opt_desc")
+                           [attributes(default_{"default value"})]
+                           (&Self::desc ,"desc")
+                           .no_remain())
+
+class test {
+public:
+    std::optional<std::string> str;
+    int i;
+    std::optional<std::vector<std::string>> vec;
+    tenum io;
+    std::vector<nested> in;
+    std::map<std::string, std::string> m;
+    std::map<std::string, nested> nm;
+    std::string pri;
+};
+DERIVE_SERDE_NON_INTRUSIVE(test,
+                           [attributes(default_{"hello"})]
+                           (&Self::str, "str")
+                           (&Self::i,   "i")
+                           (&Self::vec, "vec")
+                           [attributes(default_{tenum::OUTPUT}, to_lower, under_to_dash)]
+                           (&Self::io,  "io")
+                           [attributes(make_optional)]
+                           (&Self::in,  "in")
+                           [attributes(to_upper, under_to_dash)]
+                           (&Self::pri, "pri")
+                           (&Self::m ,  "m")
+                           (&Self::nm , "nm"))
+
+int main()
+{
+    nlohmann::json v = R"({
+    "i": 10,
+    "vec": [ "one", "two", "three" ],
+    "io" : "OUTPUT-2",
+    "pri" : "PRi-FF",
+    "in" : [{ "version" : "hello" }, "single"],
+    "m" : { "a" : "1",
+            "b" : "2",
+            "c" : "3" },
+    "nm" : { "a" : {"version" : "hello" },
+             "b" : "hello2" }
+    })"_json;
+
+    // try {
+
+    test t = serde::deserialize<test>(v);
+    fmt::print("{}\n",serde::to_str(t.io));
+
+    YAML::Node y = serde::serialize<YAML::Node>(10);
+    std::cout << y << "\n";
+    serde::deserialize<int>(y);
+
+
+    auto v_to_json = serde::serialize<nlohmann::json>(t);
+    auto v_to_toml = serde::serialize<serde::toml_v>(t);
+    auto v_to_yaml = serde::serialize<serde::yaml>(t);
+    auto v_to_rjson = serde::serialize<rapidjson::Document>(t);
+    auto print = [](auto& doc) {
+        using namespace rapidjson;
+        StringBuffer buffer;
+        Writer<StringBuffer> writer(buffer);
+        doc.Accept(writer);
+        std::cout << "doc:" << buffer.GetString() << std::endl;
+    };
+
+    std::cout << "toml: " << v_to_toml << std::endl;
+    fmt::print("json: {}\n", v_to_json.dump());
+    std::cout << "yaml: " << v_to_yaml << std::endl;
+    print(v_to_rjson);
+
+    test t_from_toml = serde::deserialize<test>(v_to_toml);
+    test t_from_yaml = serde::deserialize<test>(v_to_yaml);
+    test t_from_rjson = serde::deserialize<test>(v_to_rjson);
+
+    fmt::print("{}\n", t_from_toml);
+    fmt::print("{}\n", t_from_yaml);
+    fmt::print("{}\n", t_from_rjson);
+    std::cout << t << '\n';
+
+    return 0;
+}
diff --git a/include/serdepp/utility.hpp b/include/serdepp/utility.hpp
index 975e674..0307e14 100644
--- a/include/serdepp/utility.hpp
+++ b/include/serdepp/utility.hpp
@@ -24,6 +24,34 @@
             __VA_ARGS__;                     \
     }                                        \
 
+#define DERIVE_SERDE_NON_INTRUSIVE(Type, ...) \
+namespace serde { \
+    using namespace attribute; \
+    template<typename serde_ctx> \
+    struct serde_serializer<Type, serde_ctx> { \
+        using Adaptor = typename serde_ctx::Adaptor; \
+        constexpr inline static auto from(serde_ctx& ctx, Type& data, std::string_view key) { \
+            serde_struct ss(ctx, data); \
+            using Self [[maybe_unused]] = Type; \
+            ss \
+                __VA_ARGS__; \
+            ctx.read(); \
+        }\
+\
+        constexpr inline static auto into(serde_ctx& ctx, const Type& data, std::string_view key) { \
+            auto struct_ctx = serde_context<Adaptor, true>(ctx.adaptor); \
+            serde_struct ss(struct_ctx, const_cast<Type&>(data)); \
+            using Self [[maybe_unused]] = Type; \
+            ss \
+                __VA_ARGS__; \
+            ctx.read(); \
+        } \
+    }; \
+    namespace meta { \
+        template<class Context> struct is_serdeable<Context, Type, void> : std::true_type {}; \
+    } \
+}
+
 #define _SF_(name) (&Self::name, #name)
 
 #endif