[Feature Request] Possibility to CHECK if mod is active and/or DISABLE mod if some option is active.

[LaZar00]

I was asking if It could be possible to CHECK if a mod is active in Compatibilty section, and then Forbid or Request some features of the own mod to be active or inactive.

Let's say I want to Check if Ninostyle Chibis .IRO is installed and active. If it is not active, I would like to have active mandatory the Kaldarasha models mod, for example.

<Compatibility> 
<Setting>
<CheckActive ModID="05d57b82-b506-4097-aeb6-cca0062f2a43">Chibi Ninostyle</CheckActiveModID>
<MyID>modelsKaldarasha</MyId>
<Forbid>1</Forbid>  (or <Request>0</Request>
</Setting>
</Compatibility> 

With this, we could enable/disable options in our mod knowing if other mod is active or not.

We could do something similar by DISABLING a mod if some of the options of our mod is enabled or something:

<Compatibility>
	<Setting>
	  <MyID>MySettingVariable</MyID>
	  <MyValue>1</MyValue>
	  <Disable ModID>fae201ee-9fa5-4163-ab56-2b478111449d</ModID>
	</Setting>
</Compatibility>

But these are only suggestions.

I'm asking this because if one of the compatibility checks of our mod means that another mod needs to have an option with a precise value, BUT, that mod is not installed, the check is not performed and it is not useful.

[julianxhokaxhiu]

Did you check if anything already implemented for Compatibility fits your needs? I think what you're asking is exactly <Forbid> and <Require>. LMK

[LaZar00]

I checked the <Forbid> and <Require>, and AFAIK they can not help to activate/deactivate all the mod by a specific option. You can use <Forbid> and <Require> for activate/deactivate another option of the mod, but not ALL the mod itself.

A sample of situations I found doing my mods that I don't know how to solve:

• Let's say I need to check if a mod exists (60 FPS) to activate my own animations at 60FPS for new models I've done.
• Or if it is enabled Ninostyle Chibis to deactivate my part of Models Fusion that use Chaos models.

Even more, we can use <Forbid> and <Require> but if the mod we are making the condition it is not installed or it is inactive, the condition has not effect. I expected to do the first situation with this but it is not possible.

I hope I explained well with my poor english.

Right now the solution I found for doing this is to add sections to my mod and leave the user activate or deactivate them without checking anything.

[wturner859]

I've thought about this same thing before because it currently makes it impossible for new mods to properly set compatibilities. It falls to the older mod to do...

What you're basically saying is: right now you can require and forbid settings in someone else's mod based on your mod's settings, but you can't require and forbid your own settings based on someone else's mod's settings...

The problem that could arise if it's enabled both ways is that you could end up in a deadlock between authors...

If you set one of your settings to turn off if my mod is enabled, what happens if I set your option to turn on when my mod is enabled?

I believe if anything, it should be completely reversed, not exchangeable... You should be able to require or forbid your own options based on other mods, instead the other way around (the way it currently is)

[julianxhokaxhiu]

Seems like more and more mods (and modders) require this. Priority raised to P2.

[chrcoluk]

I think Bonez suggestion is the way to go on this. But with communication given to mod developers prior, as there will need to be changes in mods to accommodate the changes.

[zaphod77]

What it seems yo can currently do.

1. force setting in other mods if setting is on in you mod
2. force other mods to be installed when you install your own mid.
3. check for specific versions of other mods.

What you can't do

1. place a dependency on a mod setting, saying you can only activate this setting if a supported mod is installed.
2. read the settings of other mods and change your own options based on it.
3. specify minimum or maximum versions required for dependencies.