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Ultra low resolution configuration for testing #2508

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danholdaway opened this issue Nov 21, 2024 · 14 comments
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Ultra low resolution configuration for testing #2508

danholdaway opened this issue Nov 21, 2024 · 14 comments
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@danholdaway
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In order to test changes to the global-workflow system we have to run the cycled system. Currently this is done with a C48 atmosphere and 127 level / 5 degree ocean model configuration. However this is not fast enough for performing the testing and is limiting the number of pull requests that can be merged in global-workflow. Additionally the ensemble and deterministic forecasts are both run using C48, meaning we are not replicating the dual resolution setup that is used in production.

Note that the configuration does not have to produce anything scientifically sound, just be able to reliably run in order to test the connection between tasks of the workflow.

Solution

  • Develop a C12 and 32 level atmosphere with 10 degree ocean configuration for the ensemble.
  • Develop a C18 and 32 level atmosphere with 5 degree ocean configuration for the deterministic. If C18 is not a permissible configuration in FV3 then C24.

Note that the ocean can already by run at 5 degrees.

The data assimilation group at EMC will work on the enabling these configurations with GSI and JEDI.

@danholdaway danholdaway added the enhancement New feature or request label Nov 21, 2024
@JessicaMeixner-NOAA
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@danholdaway - Please let me know if ultra-low wave configurations are also required and I'm happy to help provide those parts. (Also fine to turn off waves for various tests too).

@danholdaway
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Thank you @JessicaMeixner-NOAA I think it would be useful to include waves in this effort. We aren't currently testing with waves turned on but we should start to include that.

@junwang-noaa
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@danholdaway Our team will look into atm/ocn/ice components for the test you requested. May I ask some background questions:

  1. For atmosphere, is the choice of C12/C18/C24 (800km/500km/400km resolution) coming from the running speed only or are there some other reasons? Do you have test cases with 32 vertical levels for us as a configuration reference? I am thinking that we may have to use a different atm physics package at this coarse resolution from those used for GFS/GEFS/SFS, and the dycore needs to be hydrostatic, which is different from GFS/GEFS.
  2. For ocean, do you know if there is 10 degree super grid available? I assume you are OK with 5 degree ocean/ice if we can't find a 10 degree super grid
  3. How long do you expect these tests to run? I assume these tests only need to run 15hrs with IAU. There might be some coupling configuration change if longer running time is expected. Thanks

@danholdaway
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Thanks for looking into this @junwang-noaa, we very much appreciate the help.

  1. I had a quick play around with JEDI and found that I couldn't create a C18 geometry with FV3 so that might be out of the question. The choice of C12/C24 is driven by running speed. For most of the PRs we are creating we don't want to test what the model does but rather test the connections between the tasks of the workflow. We need the model to run from one cycle to the next and output files for the DA to pick up. If we change the model configuration, e.g. physics or non-hydro -> hydro it should be fine though we might need to be aware that we might be reading less from the files, e.g. no delz to pick up. We don't have any configuration for 32 levels yet. We thought about starting with the 127 level file and taking ~every 4th level. Do you think that would work?

  2. @guillaumevernieres do you know if there exist any 10degree grids for MOM6? I think you mentioned you'd testing something at that resolution in SOCA.

  3. We don't need long forecasts with the coupled model. Just long enough to cycle. I think that's just 12h with IAU.

@guillaumevernieres
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@danholdaway , we do have a 10deg grid for mom6. Something would need to be done for cice6 as well.

@DeniseWorthen
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We create the CICE6 fix files from the MOM6 supergrid and mask. We'd need a MOM_input consistent w/ a 10deg MOM6 physics.

@junwang-noaa
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@danholdaway Thanks for the information.
@guillaumevernieres Would you please share the 10deg mom6 super grid and run configuration with us?

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@danholdaway Thanks for the information. @guillaumevernieres Would you please share the 10deg mom6 super grid and run configuration with us?

Let me see what we have. We did that work ages ago and I don't remember if we went beyond being able to use it within soca/jedi.

@guillaumevernieres
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@DeniseWorthen , @junwang-noaa , here's link to the jcsda soca repo with hopefully all the needed bits and pieces:
https://github.com/JCSDA/soca/tree/develop/test/Data/36x17x25

@DeniseWorthen
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To utilized the cpld_gridgen utility, we need a ocean_hgrid.nc file, a topography file and a mask file for MOM6. The grid_spec file you point to seems to already be at the target resolution (17x36x35).

I see that MOM_input is asking for the super grid file GRID_FILE = "ocean_hgrid_small.nc and topography file ocean_topog_small.nc. Those are the files we'd need. Do you have those somewhere?

@guillaumevernieres
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To utilized the cpld_gridgen utility, we need a ocean_hgrid.nc file, a topography file and a mask file for MOM6. The grid_spec file you point to seems to already be at the target resolution (17x36x35).

I see that MOM_input is asking for the super grid file GRID_FILE = "ocean_hgrid_small.nc and topography file ocean_topog_small.nc. Those are the files we'd need. Do you have those somewhere?

yes, sorry, I thought these were in one of the sub-dir but apparently not. I'll get back to you when I find these files.

@guillaumevernieres
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@DeniseWorthen , the files are on MSU:

/work/noaa/da/gvernier/mom6-10geg/36x17x25

do you need the MOM.res.nc restart as well?

@junwang-noaa
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@yangfanglin do you have a physics package for the ultra low resolutions (~800km/400km) that we can use to set up the C12/C24 with 32 vertical level tests? Thanks

@DeniseWorthen
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@DeniseWorthen , the files are on MSU:

/work/noaa/da/gvernier/mom6-10geg/36x17x25

do you need the MOM.res.nc restart as well?

I don't need restarts to generate the fix files. Are you setting the land mask = 0 where depth =0 (unless you have a mask file somewhere).

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