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2024‐06‐21
Attendance (9): Bruce Bailey, Dan Bjorge, Filippo Zorzi, Francis Storr, Giacomo Petri, Gundula Neuman, Mike Gower, Lori Oakley, Patrick Lauke, Steve Faulkner
Regrets: Alastair Campbell, Scott O'Hara
Following our Regular agenda today. Requests on listserv to return to Reflow discussion, but that will have to wait one more week.
Bruce reminded on facilitators call that repo root README.md includes accurate information, including how to reference a WCAG definition.
After call, Mike will be adding Ready for Approval to AG for their two-week review.
Mike noted discussion issue on A/AA/AAA but prefer like not spend too much bandwidth.
Update H39.html #2137 on Using caption elements to associate data table captions with data tables editorial improvement. Moved to Ready for approval. Needs double check that is does indeed close H39 Using caption elements to associate data table captions with data tables needs a rewritten test #2136.
Remove leftover references to Flash techniques #3540 to delete deprecated flash techniques and references. Moved to Ready for approval.
Updating example within note #2984 editorial changing "tabs in tab control" to "buttons" as example. Moved to Ready for approval.
Updated Page Titled for better links #3824 to using 2.2 instead of 2.1. Patrick noted that there is room for more improvement in the future. Moved to Ready for approval.
Add link underline color to 1.4.11 #3913 lead to long discussion, see below. Reverted to In Progress.
Editorial changes to Target Size Enhanced #3901 removes extra "Note" and change ul element to dl. Moved to Ready for approval.
Added "Duplicated text" as guidance to fulfil the 1.4.5 Images of Text success criterion in the Understanding Document #3773. Giacomo will make edits responsive to feedback in thread. Kept in Drafted.
Grammar fix in use-of-color.html #3909 minor editorial to add "the" article. Moved to Ready for Approval.
Failing Technique F110 - Added examples for sticky header and sticky footer that covers completely elements receiving focus #3775 looks good but Bruce had concern with not being able to have a (rawgit) preview. In addition, request from group to use prose (from anywhere) instead of Lorem Ipsum text.
Add link underline color to 1.4.11 #3913 main request from group is to make failure examples more distinct from positive examples. There was also a preference for affirmative pass examples rather than a near-pass as failure example. There was also the suggestion to use a grays instead of red for key examples, so focused is on luminosity and not color hue.
No one on call disagrees with using ( color + luminosity difference ) as sufficient for indicating link text. There is concern for using poor contrast examples as meeting the requirement. Concern is for desire to use 4.5:1 against background (for link text) but allowing 3:1 for non-link underline. Patrick pointed out that "underline" could just as easily be a border. Consensus on call that underline (and meaning it conveys) is non text.
Dan noted that example purporting to be using "default" link text color is no longer correct.
Giacomo note that similar examples (one pass, one fail) next to each other is also useful, and there are examples further down the list.
As noted above, PR reverted back to In-Progress.
Lori asked about our success rate with AG. Facilitators are very please. Subjectively, nothing but positive verbal (and GitHub) feedback from AG. Objectively, Done columns documents numerical progress.
Kudos all around, and thanks to everyone for their hard work.