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Allows users to opt-out and disable of browser metrics and browser statistics #1110

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tumatanquang opened this issue Jan 5, 2025 · 20 comments
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@tumatanquang
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Describe the solution you'd like

There is an option that allows users to opt-out and disable of browser metrics and browser statistics.

Describe alternatives you've considered

There is an option in browser settings / startup flag / option in chrome://flags that allows users to opt-out and disable of browser metrics and browser statistics.

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Currently, this browser still collects browser metrics and browser statistics (such as event logs, recently opened tabs, number of tabs opened, number of times the web translator is used, browser usage time, GAIA cookies - whether you are not logged in or using Google sync feature on the browser,...) like Google Chrome and stores them in files in the User Data folder (like the Preferences file).

While I don't know where this data is sent (or sold or otherwise used) once collected, but please consider adding an option to allow users to opt-out and disable the collection of this data.

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win32ss commented Jan 6, 2025

There is the --ungoogled-supermium switch, but it is based on the default behaviour of ungoogled-chromium which means that access to Google translation services integrated into the browser is disabled (but they can be accessed on the Google Translate site itself).

On the other hand, I can simply remove collection of metrics and statistics to a great extent. I am experimenting with this as well.

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NS-Clone commented Jan 6, 2025

so there is NO g00gle search 🤦‍♂️
but still this M$-ZОG's g00gle translate 🤦‍♂️
that gets out on every site...

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NS-Clone commented Jan 6, 2025

so there is NO g00gle search 🤦‍♂️
but still this M$-ZОG's g00gle translate 🤦‍♂️
that gets out on every site...

@Stepman123
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How to disable the translator option in the context menu?

@win32ss
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win32ss commented Jan 6, 2025

It can only be disabled by chrome://settings/languages or --ungoogled-supermium.

@Stepman123
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It can only be disabled by chrome://settings/languages or --ungoogled-supermium.

It's still here. The translation doesn't work though.
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@tumatanquang
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@win32ss These metrics and statistics seem to be generated by the browser itself, not the website or the app or the extension, even if you start the browser with the --ungoogled-supermium switch you mentioned, it still continues to generate this data.

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win32ss commented Jan 7, 2025

Yes, --ungoogled-supermium prevents any possibility of the transmission of the data. But I will disable the generation of as much of the data as I can find because it's of no use to Supermium either way.

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win32ss commented Jan 7, 2025

It's still here. The translation doesn't work though.

That's odd. Even the "disable Google Translate" option doesn't remove the ability to use it, even if the browser is in CR2023 mode. I'll be sure to fix this in ungoogled-supermium and the other pref.

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billi857 commented Jan 7, 2025

Do what you want, but Google Translate should work, at least in normal mode! :)
I don't think it will be possible to completely clear the browser from Google statistics and leave Google Translate working.

I am not a polyglot (like most people) and it is extremely difficult for me to perceive information on the Internet without a normal translation.

Google Translate is one of the main reasons why I started using Chrome at all.

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win32ss commented Jan 7, 2025

No worries, it will remain enabled by default.

@tumatanquang
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It's still here. The translation doesn't work though.

That's odd. Even the "disable Google Translate" option doesn't remove the ability to use it, even if the browser is in CR2023 mode. I'll be sure to fix this in ungoogled-supermium and the other pref.

It may be blocked by Google. Google has announced that it blocks the translator on older browsers and older operating systems. I also get this error sometimes when using Google Translate in the browser.

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@billi857 Do what you want, but Google Translate should work, at least in normal mode! :) I don't think it will be possible to completely clear the browser from Google statistics and leave Google Translate working.

I'm not saying to remove Google Translate, it seems to have been started by @Stepman123 and @NS-Clone.

From the start, I wanted to allow users to opt-out/disable the collection of browser metrics and statistics. These data will "track" everything you do and be saved to a file(s), not only will it not be deleted when you clear your browser data, but it will also record some metrics when you clear your browser data (like the timestamp you performed the browser data deletion).

As @win32ss said above, these data are no use to Supermium either way, but collecting them (even if not using them) currently seems to violate the Browser data privacy policy:

Browser data privacy policy

P/s: Of course it's not a problem for me now, but it could potentially be a privacy issue for others or in the future.

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billi857 commented Jan 8, 2025

It may be blocked by Google. Google has announced that it blocks the translator on older browsers and older operating systems. I also get this error sometimes when using Google Translate in the browser.

I have an old smartphone with Android 5, Chrome 96 beta is installed on it (you can't install higher). So even in this version, Google Translate works fine for now.

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Stepman123 commented Jan 8, 2025

I'm not saying to remove Google Translate, it seems to have been started by @Stepman123 and @NS-Clone.

If you try the TWP extension then you may also want to remove Google Translate. It is not in the Google store, but is on github. https://github.com/FilipePS/Traduzir-paginas-web

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…eful to Supermium and was not used by Supermium.
@tumatanquang
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I have an old smartphone with Android 5, Chrome 96 beta is installed on it (you can't install higher). So even in this version, Google Translate works fine for now.

According to the most recent article I could find: Google is killing Chrome Translate in old versions of the browser

Google announced in a Chrome community post that it is shutting down the Chrome Translate feature for Chrome 95 and older. If you're using this legacy version, you'll eventually see an error message that states, "This page could not be translated."

But sometimes, even on the latest browser, Google Translate may not work. But since it is built-in, it is difficult to determine whether the reason Google Translate is not working is because Google has blocked it!?

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If you try the TWP extension then you may also want to remove Google Translate. It is not in the Google store, but is on github. https://github.com/FilipePS/Traduzir-paginas-web

I feel like Google Translate is pretty good right now and I don't want to install an extension to do something that already exists.
You can open a new issue to make it easier for the repository owner to check and discuss.

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billi857 commented Jan 9, 2025

According to the most recent article I could find: Google is killing Chrome Translate in old versions of the browser

Google announced in a Chrome community post that it is shutting down the Chrome Translate feature for Chrome 95 and older

Yes, I am familiar with this article, so I found a workaround for my old smartphone - Chrome version 96 beta :)

But sometimes, even on the latest browser, Google Translate may not work. But since it is built-in, it is difficult to determine whether the reason Google Translate is not working is because Google has blocked it!?

Sometimes the translation doesn't work the first or even the second time. But I think that this is more of a technical problem associated, for example, with Internet connection problems or with the workload of a particular Google server. Reloading the page or reopening the page in a different tab usually resolves the issue.

@Alex313031
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@win32ss Hey, this is a great commit! > 43f56f1

Definitely gonna add that to Thorium!

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@win32ss Hey, this is a great commit! > 43f56f1

Definitely gonna add that to Thorium!

Will it be added to Thorium legacy?

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