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10/9 1:00-2:20pm 356B Barrows Hall ####Attendees Nisreen, Jonathan, Carlo, Jong-kai, Tong, Vedant, Jorrit, Dav (part)

####Agenda

  1. Growing Interest?
  2. Big Ideas/Oct 15 Seminar
  3. Review Issues
  4. Discuss Island Biodiversity by MacArthur and Wilson (1967)
  5. Review/Discuss Proposals

####Review

  • more social problem than being limited by technology
  • person before algorithm
  • add nano-bios

####Big Ideas

  • Oct 15 presentation at Hacking Measurement
  • Nov 12 3-page proposal for Big Ideas
  • going forward with Big Ideas as a way to frame our idea

####Article

####Proposals

  • which subset of species are we looking at? birds (well documented though migration an issue?)?
  • need to normalize across different attributes of islands (very complicated problem not able to solve in 2 months)
  • just compare biodiversity among islands
  • how to find open data, dark data, and missing data
  • estimate with island size and other factors (island biogeography)
  • github pages website and javascript, and static data to begin with
  • add social context
  • look at birds in particular

####Notes

  • Not Berkeley time!
  • share knowledge and collaborate
  • build tool that allow you to see difference between what we think we know about a certain island and what is actually available
  • few different islands with people associated with those islands (not just specific to one)
  • idea to have consumer report on how complete is the species list (check list) of a certain island
  • progress bar for completeness on "open data", "dark data", "missing data"
  • tools for "open data" (not easy but it's there called effechecka.org)
  • "dark data" contacting appropriate scientists/researchers
  • "missing data" on island biogeography (won't change until extinction) -- function that allows us to estimate number of species (look at parameters being area, climate, etc... to predict missing data)

####Actions

  • Big Ideas Nov. 12 (Nisreen)
  • Oct 15 seminar presentation (Jong-kai)
  • Think of ideas for proposals
  • Read about island biogeography
  • Look into Leaflet js for maps (Carlo/Tong)
  • Gather open data for islands (Vedant)
  • Graph/estimate completeness for islands (Nisreen)
  • Set up page and comparison table (Jonathan)
  • Define 100% completeness