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bug(web): longpress up-flick shortcut usability issues - too easy to trigger #10647
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Re: one of the keypresses: And the other: So, remember that up-flick longpress shortcut? I'm blaming that. Sounds like we may need to take one or more of the following approaches:
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Here's a repro with attached video. (Logging per #11277) Highlight in this video is at 0:11, where I intend to type a plain Screen_Recording_20240426_092243_Keyman.Beta.mp4[
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Another repro. Highlight is at 0:15 with Screen_Recording_20240426_092929_Keyman.Beta.mp4[
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Interesting tidbit 1: {
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"matchedId": "flick-start",
"linkType": "chain",
"sources": [
{
"identifier": "touch:527",
"isFromTouch": true,
"path": {
"coords": [/* ... */],
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} That is a surprisingly low 'netDistance' for the flick-start to trigger. I'd ask if it was intended, but the rest of that gesture's lifetime indicates yes - you did go all the way to flick-end. |
I did no intentional flicks in either video |
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} That's 18 pixels of movement that it recorded, all within the span of 83ms. If the second tap weren't there, I'd have a reason to question if the coordinate-remapper (for layer changes, etc) did something odd, but it is present. (You can see remapper effects in its following |
Oh. Guess I skimmed to fast; you're right, as it does end with |
Added a note to the first video:
And second:
|
The initial touch location of the 'r', as indicated by the opacity of the touch-indicator on the key. The gesture-engine notes 'yep, it's been touched' here after a delay of two or three frames and finally displays the key-preview here. Two frames later, the subkey menu displays: One frame later, the subkey is activated and output... with the subkey menu still showing for a moment. (Its cancellation is triggered by recognition of the end of the gesture, which is processed after the last gesture-component match.) Two frames later, the subkey menu disappears. |
One notable thing from that sequence of images - less than half of the 'flick' distance was actually north-directed - a substantial component of the motion was horizontal. That is something that could be cleaned up. A focused 'start' and 'end' comparison, excerpted from the screenshots above: I'd say that's about a 30-degree angle, direction between north-east and east-north-east. From the path-model as it is:
30 degrees from horizontal would fall within that. |
And that would be the one I extracted above. I only later realized you had two different recordings... but there are others with clearer stats for the 'unintended' cases. Sadly, the 'r' I focused on above was kicked out of history before you stopped (I kept it to the most recent 10), but the first sequence has a good one: "stats": {
"angle": 5.28582940138711,
"cardinal": "nw",
"netDistance": 19.04673395825433,
"duration": 123.19999980926514,
"sampleCount": 5,
"rawDistance": 19.047517845309315
} That angle corresponds to 302.9 degrees - or -57.1 degrees, a generally 'nw' direction. Its purely-vertical distance is only 54.3% of its netDistance... which would have put the vertical distance travelled at only 10.36 px. That'd be well within the threshold if I had it properly checking only the vertical component. |
Keyman 17.0.256-alpha on Android, Samsung A53/5G phone, Android 14
In this example, the e key gets a diacritic at about 8 seconds. There are other examples as well.
Screen_Recording_20240206_104531_Keep.Notes.mp4
No, I am not attempting to type precisely or use suggested corrections for this video. 😁
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